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[Netnice-developer] Linux 2.6.12 and Netnice

[Matt D. <mat...@gm...>]

Much thanks goes out to Scott, I applied his patch to 2.6.12 and the 
kernel boots fine.  Mounting the nnfs fs works seemingly error free too. 
    I have yet to do much testing with this but it looks smooth.  The 
kernel with the applied patch is now in CVS and you can give it a shot:
"cvs co -r netnice2612b Linux"

-Matt

Re: [Netnice-developer] Greetings

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

hi netnice developers!

i'm looking for an experienced linux administrator, who can
administer the build server. i'm expecting kernel build skill and
experience in snmpd, apache, crontab, and cvs, hopefully knoppix
remastering. if you're interested, please let me know.

thanks!

-- taka

Takashi Okumura wrote:
> Happy new year, Netnice developers!
> 
> I have just set up a build-server for linux/netnice, which will
> also be used to do Knoppix remastering for Knoppix/netnice
> bootable CD.
> 
> Anyway. Please feel free to post any seasonal greetings to the
> list, maybe with your latest update :-)
> 
> thanks!!
> 
> -- taka
> 

[Netnice-developer] Greetings

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

Happy new year, Netnice developers!

I have just set up a build-server for linux/netnice, which will
also be used to do Knoppix remastering for Knoppix/netnice
bootable CD.

Anyway. Please feel free to post any seasonal greetings to the
list, maybe with your latest update :-)

thanks!!

-- taka

[Netnice-developer] host down

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

dear netnice developers,

we had a RAID failure last weekend. due to the trouble,
www.netnice.org and other servers have been down.

i've just rebuilt the RAID mirror, and now, all the
services are properly functioning now.

thanks,

-- taka

Re: [Netnice-developer] RE: Fedora

[Matt D. <mat...@gm...>]

Nirval,
Nice meeting you!

To clarify your email:
Fedora is a Linux distribution.
Linux, simply is the kernel, the base operating system that Fedora, as 
well as hundreds of other Linux distributions are built around.
Linux distributions include the Linux kernel (www.kernel.org) and a 
bunch of software, called packages.  Packages and a Linux kernel make a 
linux distribution.  Different distributions, Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva, 
Slackware, etc etc all have the Linux kernel(that is what makes them a 
linux distribution) but they differ in the packages and initial setup 
that they apply.  Some distributions integrate their packages better 
than others.  Fedora does a nice job of this integration.  For example, 
in Fedora, a hyperlink in teh Thunderbird email client will spawn a 
corresponding Firefox web browser opening to the link, if it was 
clicked.  Other distributions do not include such nice intricies, and 
the end user would have to toy around to get some added flexability.

For development purposes, Fedora is a good basis for a group to develop 
towards.  Developing for one release of Fedora assures that all 
libraries (and there are a ton of em) are of the same version with all 
other Fedora libraries for that particular Fedora release.  This 
similarity among development libraries allows the developer to 
dynamically link code for that library and have it work with other 
Fedora machines.


To answer your question, yes Fedora is a good choice, but I prefer a 
more minimalistic environment for my home machine, with out all of the 
extra bells and whistles that Fedora comes with.  After all tehy both 
run linux, and if I want a bell or whistle Im sure it can be downloaded 
some where.

-Matt
~
Nirvail wrote:
> Hello!
> My name is Nirvail. I want to install Linux OS for this project but 
> someone told me that  Fedora is a stable Linux and does almost same as 
> Linux. I want to know if I can install Fedora to work with this project.
>  
> Thanks

[Netnice-developer] RE: Fedora

[Nirvail <nir...@ro...>]

Hello!
My name is Nirvail. I want to install Linux OS for this project but =
someone told me that  Fedora is a stable Linux and does almost same as =
Linux. I want to know if I can install Fedora to work with this project.

Thanks

[Netnice-developer] Re: [Netnice-library] libnetnice tasks

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

hi Luke, and netnice-library developers,

as you might have realized, i have sent you several emails
this weekend, suggesting the task arrangement below.

  * libnetnice development *

	1) specification	all

	2) prototyping		Luke R
		on FreeBSD4.11

	3) port
		FreeBSD5.4	Mark
		Linux		Nishu
		OpenBSD		-
		NetBSD		-

	4) application rewrite
		FreeBSD5.4	Mark H Van Tuyl
		Linux		Kashif, Nirvail, Ashok, Gaurav
		OpenBSD		-
		NetBSD		-

if you think the application rewriting is too easy, i may
suggest other tasks; for example, improvement of the network
control module for Apache web server, mod_netnice.

btw, as i have suggested, it would be better for us to keep a
english-version of the specification. so, i would appreciate
if anybody put the result of machine-translation to the wiki
page, as a starting point.

lastly, if you want a team sticker, please let me know. but,
please remember that a person is eligible for the sticker
only after his first commit to the CVS, or to the Wiki ;-)

thanks!


-- taka

Luke R wrote:
> Hello all!  I am looking to lead the development effort on libnetnice, and I was really happy to see that so many people are looking to get working on it as well.  Don't let me hold anyone back - if someone has a really good idea on how this should happen, feel free to speak up and take the reigns.
> 
> The first step I'm actually looking for is to get a solid definition of the interface and get it documented in the wiki on the site.  I know that there are a few pages out there now, however all are in Japanese and did not translate very nicely for me via Google.  If anyone has read through these pages and has a clear translation, please send it to the list.  I realize some people aren't crazy about holding back on development - I know, I'm not really either.  One thing I have learned in my minimal working experience though, is that it is a lot better to define things before you start coding.
> 
> Next up will be the fun part of making this work, and then the various porting projects.  If anyone working on a port wants to do this in parallel with the main libnetnice project, that will probably work out quite nicely.
> 
> I guess that's what I had in mind for tackling this.  If anyone think that sounds stupid or has other ideas, again, please say so.  I'm really excited to get this in an easy-to-use library and extend Netnice into more applications.
> 
> Luke R.

Re: [Netnice-developer] Re: Installation of Linux and Netnice

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

Hi nirvail,

thanks for joining us. i would also suggest you to work on the
rewriting of netnice applications on linux, using libnetnice
(lp-1). however, since the library is still under development,
please wait a bit for the completion of the task.

in the meantime, i also suggest you to install linux/netnice on
your machine :-)

you may ask questions, but, first try to solve your problems
yourself, by searching the web and by reasoning. also, when you
carry out the task, please keep a note, or a diary, on the project
Wiki (http://www.netnice.org); questions you have, how you address
them and solve them, related website you find, etc.

the pages would be a good guide for our new customers. i would also
like to see how a person new to the system thinks and develops his
recognition about it, to improve the website.

any suggestions are welcome.

thanks!


-- taka

NIRVAIL SANDHU wrote:
>  Hello! everyone
>   
>   My name is Nirvail Singh Sandhu. I am new developer to this project. I  want to introduce myself first. I am new graduate in computer science.  I  know programming in C/C++ and other OO languages. I know Unix  and Linux but does not have experience in Kernel and stuff. I also do  not know BSD and netnice but want to learn. I also have to install  Linux on machine first because I am working on windows OS. 
>   So, I need help. I want to know from where I should start from. If someone can help me, It will be greate.
>   
>   Thanks	
> ---------------------------------
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Re: [Netnice-developer] hi from a new developer

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

hi Kashif,

thanks for joining us. considering your situation and background,
i guess rewriting of netnice applications on linux using libnetnice
(lp-1) would be a good fit for you. however, since the library is
currently under development, please wait a bit for the completion
of the task. (as i might have told you, Luke R is heading the
development process.)

in the meantime, i suggest you to install linux/netnice on your
machine. you may ask questions, but, first try to solve your
problems yourself, by searching the web and by reasoning. also,
when you carry out the task, please keep a note, or a diary, on
the project Wiki (http://www.netnice.org); questions you have,
how you address them and solve them, related website you find,
etc.

the pages would be a good guide for our new customers. i would also
like to see how a person new to the system thinks and develops his
recognition about it, to improve the website.

any suggestions are welcome.

thanks!

-- taka

Kashif Jamal Soofi wrote:
> Hi **Takashi Okumura & all,
> 
> I am Kashif, I am from Lahore, Pakistan. I am working in VB.Net and Visual
> C/C++. I have developed an application for Linux as my Final Year Project 2
> and half years back.
> 
> Now I want to develop Linux skills and also do less or more kernel stuff.
> Also this project is of my interest. So it will be good to help the project
> and hopefully the same will do my purpose.
> 
> I am available for the linux task that is L1 currently I think but first I
> need to get familiar will netnice. Please guide me in that. I learn by
> example so it will be good if you assign me some task for learning purposes.
> 
> An important thing, I am on job for at least 9 hours a day plus 3 hours of
> traveling time. So there is possibility of task getting late. hope you will
> be forgiving on time matter.
> 
> Looking for listening from you
> Regards,
> Kashif

[Netnice-developer] Re: Installation of Linux and Netnice

[NIRVAIL S. <nir...@ya...>]

 Hello! everyone
  
  My name is Nirvail Singh Sandhu. I am new developer to this project. I  want to introduce myself first. I am new graduate in computer science.  I  know programming in C/C++ and other OO languages. I know Unix  and Linux but does not have experience in Kernel and stuff. I also do  not know BSD and netnice but want to learn. I also have to install  Linux on machine first because I am working on windows OS. 
  So, I need help. I want to know from where I should start from. If someone can help me, It will be greate.
  
  Thanks
  

		
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[Netnice-developer] hi from a new developer

[Kashif J. S. <jam...@gm...>]

Hi **Takashi Okumura & all,

I am Kashif, I am from Lahore, Pakistan. I am working in VB.Net and Visual
C/C++. I have developed an application for Linux as my Final Year Project 2
and half years back.

Now I want to develop Linux skills and also do less or more kernel stuff.
Also this project is of my interest. So it will be good to help the project
and hopefully the same will do my purpose.

I am available for the linux task that is L1 currently I think but first I
need to get familiar will netnice. Please guide me in that. I learn by
example so it will be good if you assign me some task for learning purposes=
.

An important thing, I am on job for at least 9 hours a day plus 3 hours of
traveling time. So there is possibility of task getting late. hope you will
be forgiving on time matter.

Looking for listening from you
Regards,
Kashif

Re: [Netnice-developer] Kernel 2.6.12

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

thanks Matt. i appreciate all the efforts, and hope you continue your trial=
s.

Kartikey, maybe we need your help now :-)

thanks!

--- taka

On 11/16/05, Matt Davis <mat...@gm...> wrote:
> I really want to move on to some kernel development.
>
> 2.6.12 has been ported, unfortunately I am getting a long stream of
> assembly code when I boot... and kernel debugging is off... so something
> went wrong, I have yet to address this directly but I have never seen
> this before... or at least, to this extent.  I am going to play with an
> idea... but I was wondering if you all have any recommendations
> if you want to toy with it...
> cvs co -r netnice2612 Linux
>
> thanks
>
> -Matt
>
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[Netnice-developer] Kernel 2.6.12

[Matt D. <mat...@gm...>]

I really want to move on to some kernel development.

2.6.12 has been ported, unfortunately I am getting a long stream of 
assembly code when I boot... and kernel debugging is off... so something 
went wrong, I have yet to address this directly but I have never seen 
this before... or at least, to this extent.  I am going to play with an 
idea... but I was wondering if you all have any recommendations
if you want to toy with it...
cvs co -r netnice2612 Linux

thanks

-Matt

[Netnice-developer] mod_netnice

[<Wut...@ai...>]

Hi all,

My name is Wuttiphong Preechapunyakul. Now I'm studying a master degree i=
n ICT
(Information and Communication Technology) at AIT. I'm working with mod_n=
etnice
module. In my project about mod_netnice, I try to add a new admission con=
trol
funciton to mod_netnice. This access control function will use informatio=
n of
client to make a decision in access control processes. Now I will add 3
features as following
1) The features that can limit the concurrent connection of user
2) The features that can limit the no of connection that can connect to s=
erver
in some period.
3) The features that can limit download size in some period of each user.

After finish this 3 features, I will try to make the sever can dynamicall=
y
adjust the value set by admin base on information about bandwidth of serv=
er on
each time. For example, If the server has a few client connect to it, it =
will
try to increase the limit of concurrent connection for each users.( But I=
've=20
not designed in this part, this is just an idea to improve the module).

If anyone has an idea, questions or any suggestions about feature of acce=
ss
control functions, please feel free to email me at this email.


Thank you,
Wuttiphong Preechapunyakul



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[Netnice-developer] Re: C/C++ programmer wanted for libnetni

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

hi Nirvail,

thanks for joining us. i think Luke R will lead the implementation process.
please join netnice-library mailing list, also, and wait for next message.

i would also appreciate if you let us know about yourself.

thanks!


-- taka

p.s. Luke, can you send your rough plan about the implementation process
to the lists,
so that the developers can collaborate together? thanks!


On 11/13/05, Nirvail Singh <ni...@us...> wrote:
>
> Message body follows:
>
> Hello!
>
> My name is "Nirvail Sandhu". I e-mail you last week to join
> libnetni project. You sent me a link to join mailing list. I
> already subscribe to the list.
>
> I want to let you know that I would like to implement code
> from specification. Please let me know my next step.
>
> My e-mail is nir...@ya...
>
> Thanks
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Re: [Netnice-developer] Tasks

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

hi,

On 11/12/05, Matt Davis <mat...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Taka,
> I would like to start work with coding for the kernel, or for the
> library.  Please let me know where I should start to tread.  What ever
> you deem would bring me more familiarity with the project.

so, please just finish the porting first, and debug the leaf VIF bug
i described. then, i will give you more detailed description of the
NPF (netnice packet filter) hack.

thanks!

-- taka

[Netnice-developer] Kernel dev question

[Matt D. <mat...@gm...>]

currently the compile for netnice2612
stops with the linking error:

> LD      init/built-in.o
> LD      .tmp_vmlinux1
> kernel/built-in.o(.text+0x62db): In function `do_fork':
> : undefined reference to `vif_fork'
> kernel/built-in.o(.text+0x993f): In function `do_exit':
> : undefined reference to `vif_exit'
> net/built-in.o(.text+0x2236b): In function `ip_finish_output':
> : undefined reference to `vif_input'
> net/built-in.o(.text+0x223a8): In function `ip_finish_output':
> : undefined reference to `vif_input'
> net/built-in.o(.text+0x48c59): In function `inet_sock_release':
> : undefined reference to `vif_checksk'

I have a feeling its the way the makfiles are setup

all of the net/core/vif_*.c use the EXPORT macro... so Im kinda 
scratchin my head on this one.

-Matt

[Netnice-developer] Tasks

[Matt D. <mat...@gm...>]

All,
I have currently have linux 2.6.12 ported from 2.6.7
(doing a recompile to test)

To check it out:
cvs co netnice2612 Linux

Taka,
I would like to start work with coding for the kernel, or for the 
library.  Please let me know where I should start to tread.  What ever 
you deem would bring me more familiarity with the project.

Thanks!

PS.  The guys on the team seem really cool!

-Matt

Re: [Netnice-developer] Help needed: open tasks

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

hi Mark!

thanks for the message. actually, i've been remembering that you
once volunteered for the task. but, since i have not contacted you
for long time (half a year?), i thought your situation might have
changed since then...

anyway. i really appreciate your help. and, i'll let you know when
the prototype implementation is ready. or, you may subscribe
the netnice-library mailing list to receive latest information
about the project.

thanks! really thanks!


-- taka

ma...@va... wrote:
> I would be happy to take the FreeBSD 5.4 port.
> 
> Mark Van Tuyl
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Takashi Okumura" <ta...@wi...>
> To: <net...@li...>
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 4:07 AM
> Subject: [Netnice-developer] Help needed: open tasks
> 
> 
>>
>> dear netnice developers,
>>
>> thanks to Luke and Matt, we have resumed the release process once
>> again. however, there are several open tasks left, and i again call
>> for your help. particularly, i would really appreciate if some of
>> you sign up for one of the following tasks.
>>
>> Gp-1 FreeBSD5.4 libnetnice porting
>> L-1 Linux system administrator (root)
>> O-1 OpenBSD system administrator (root)
>> N-1 NetBSD system administrator (root)
>> nndiag perl perl programmer
>>
>> just write to me, or post a message to the list. any questions, or
>> comments are welcome.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> -- taka
>>

[Netnice-developer] lib1 task

[Gaurav B. <gau...@ya...>]

All,

I am interested in helping with the lib1 task.
Currently, I am in the process of installing netnice
on my Linux. Once I have good understanding of the
project, I will update you with my *concrete* plans.

Luke: You can take the lead on lib1. I will help you
in whatever way I can.

Have a nice weekend.

- Gaurav


		
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[Netnice-developer] Help needed: open tasks

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

dear netnice developers,

thanks to Luke and Matt, we have resumed the release process once
again. however, there are several open tasks left, and i again call
for your help. particularly, i would really appreciate if some of
you sign up for one of the following tasks.

	Gp-1	FreeBSD5.4	libnetnice porting
	L-1	Linux		system administrator (root)
	O-1	OpenBSD		system administrator (root)
	N-1	NetBSD		system administrator (root)
	nndiag	perl		perl programmer

just write to me, or post a message to the list. any questions, or
comments are welcome.

thanks!

-- taka

Re: [Netnice-developer] Partial netnice site review

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

hi,

Luke R wrote:
> Ahoy everyone!  A little review of the site is done,
> and if anyone has added content to the following
> pages, please feel free to review them to see what I
> have changed (mostly minor wording changes):

thanks for the proofreading.

> Also I was wondering if anyone has taken on working on
> libnetnice?  Matt, I think you had expressed interest
> in it.  I was wondering about either helping out with
> it or taking it on.

actually, the position is still open (Matt is now working
on a kernel debug task). and so, if it is okay with you,
that would be great. i remember that you signed up for
Fp-1, but, if you work on the implementation on FreeBSD4,
you can cover lib1 and Fp-1 at a time :-)

thanks!


-- taka

[Netnice-developer] New ML announce: netnice-commitlog

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

dear netnice developers,

thanks to the efforts made by our peer developers, we're expecting
to have more and more commit traffic in near future. and, to deliver the
logs to the community in an organized manner, i have just created
a new ML for the commit log, netnice-commitlog. whenever any
commit is made to the CVS repository, the log is automatically
forwarded to the ML, and archived. this feature will be usable,
because we have several implementations on different OSs and
need to update other ones, based on the commit information.

if you're interested, please join. and, i also suggest to use "digest"
option. the subscription form is available at the following page.

http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/netnice-commitlog

thanks,

-- taka

[Netnice-developer] Partial netnice site review

[Luke R <luk...@ya...>]

Ahoy everyone!  A little review of the site is done,
and if anyone has added content to the following
pages, please feel free to review them to see what I
have changed (mostly minor wording changes):

http://www.netnice.org/pukiwiki-e.php?User
http://www.netnice.org/pukiwiki-e.php?Applications
http://www.netnice.org/pukiwiki-e.php?PortingStatus
http://www.netnice.org/pukiwiki-e.php?Download
http://www.netnice.org/pukiwiki-e.php?setup%20guide
http://www.netnice.org/pukiwiki-e.php?How%20it%20works
http://www.netnice.org/pukiwiki-e.php?FAQ-developer

Also I was wondering if anyone has taken on working on
libnetnice?  Matt, I think you had expressed interest
in it.  I was wondering about either helping out with
it or taking it on.

Anyone in the Midwest - hope you haven't been blown
away by these crazy winds!!

Cheers,

Luke


		
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Re: [Netnice-developer] libnetnice tasks

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

On 11/7/05, Takashi Okumura <ta...@wi...> wrote:
>
> i personally think Fp-1 is a good fit. any conflict would happen,
> because the late comer can take Gp-1...

would *not* happen.

i apologize.


-- taka