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[Netnice-developer] Netnice: new SNAP

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

dear netnice folks,

i've just released the new SNAP, SNAP-11-11-2003. this includes the latest
kernel patch for FreeBSD4.7/4.8. i've made so many modifications for
code stability, and it also improved code efficiency. i fixed a serious bug
in the installation script that may stop the system at startup, and everything
looks fine at the moment. so, i would be happy if you give me some feedback.

		http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/netnice

if this is stable, i'll go into the Netnice Packet Filter code, which
realizes integration of VIF-based traffic control and VIF-based network
security, particularly IDS. also, we'll resume porting of the reference
implementation on FreeBSD to OpenBSD, and hopefully to NetBSD shortly after
OpenBSD.

i apologize for the slow work, and appreciate your suggestions, patches, 
and feedback of any sort.

thanks!


-- taka

Re: [Netnice-developer] Coding conventions

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

hello,

Sergei Matusevich wrote:
> 
> Takashi Okumura wrote:
> 
> >>PS. BTW, do we have any coding guidelines? I mean, is there conventions
> >>about naming the classes and variables, indentation style and so on?
> >
> > i personally prefer BSD style for indentation. naming convention for
> > classes and variables is not set. i agree with you that netniced needs
> > such a guideline, and would be happy if you contribute in that part.
> 
> Well, I think (almost) any style is good as long as we will keep it
> consistent through all our code. BSD style is just fine for me, I would
> only suggest to use spaces instead of tabs - it makes code easier to
> print and view in different editors with different tab width settings.

hmm. i think most of the kernel source code is written with tab,
and i basically prefer their style for indentation. i'm using
emacs and vi, but, have not had such trouble...

> As for C++, I like Herb Sutter's notation described in his "[More]
> Exceptional C++" books - i.e. something like the following:
>   ClassOrTypeName
>   methodOrFunctionName
>   variableName
>   memberVariableName_
>   plain_c_variable_or_function
>   CONSTANT_NAME
>   TEMPLATE_PARAMETER

this looks reasonable to me.

thanks!

-- taka

[Netnice-developer] Coding conventions

[Sergei M. <mo...@op...>]

Takashi Okumura wrote:

>>PS. BTW, do we have any coding guidelines? I mean, is there conventions
>>about naming the classes and variables, indentation style and so on?
> 
> i personally prefer BSD style for indentation. naming convention for
> classes and variables is not set. i agree with you that netniced needs
> such a guideline, and would be happy if you contribute in that part.

Well, I think (almost) any style is good as long as we will keep it
consistent through all our code. BSD style is just fine for me, I would
only suggest to use spaces instead of tabs - it makes code easier to
print and view in different editors with different tab width settings.

As for C++, I like Herb Sutter's notation described in his "[More]
Exceptional C++" books - i.e. something like the following:
  ClassOrTypeName
  methodOrFunctionName
  variableName
  memberVariableName_
  plain_c_variable_or_function
  CONSTANT_NAME
  TEMPLATE_PARAMETER

You can find examples on Herb's web site at http://www.gotw.ca (which is
an excellent resource for any C++ developer, BTW).

Let me know what you guys think about it.

Thank you,
Sergei.

Re: [Netnice-developer] netnice2-111003-SNAP

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

Takashi Okumura wrote:
> 
> i've made the code stabilization hack, which i've been mentioning
> so many times, and ported the code to FreeBSD4.9, the latest version
> of the OS just released. the latest SNAP with both FB4.7 and 4.8 patch
> is available at netnice project homepage.
> 
>         http://sourceforge.net/projects/netnice
> 
> mike, can you try your script that made the system down, and check the
> stability??

oops! i've found another bug. also, found the patch was incomplete,
and some other trouble.

mike, now i understand why your installation failed.

i'll release another SNAP shortly.


-- taka

Re: [Netnice-developer] another team member (if you guys don't mind :-))

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

hello,

Sergei Matusevich wrote:
> 
> Thank you for your warm welcome. I am really happy to join the team. So
> far, I will check out the code and try to make it compile on my PC,
> possibly with -Wall and -pedantic options.

ah! that would be horrible... 

> As soon as I will get more familiar with the netnice internals, I will
> choose my area of interest on the project. So far, I do not plan to make
> big changes and commit something to the CVS - maybe at the beginning I
> will just send you some small patches.

please feel free to do anything you want. small patches are welcome.
big changes/entire cleaning are also welcome.


> PS. BTW, do we have any coding guidelines? I mean, is there conventions
> about naming the classes and variables, indentation style and so on?

i personally prefer BSD style for indentation. naming convention for
classes and variables is not set. i agree with you that netniced needs
such a guideline, and would be happy if you contribute in that part.


> PPS. I have found netnice because I wanted to join some open-source C++
> project. So I looked through the development vacancies on the SF, and I
> think netnice was quite a natural choice. Clearly, there is a great idea
> behind the project, we have a leader, a web site and docs, some code in
> CVS, and, what is most important, a lot of work ahead!

i've never imagined that putting more stuff into todo list would attract
developers :-)

anyway, it seems like we're doing fairly good job in the development
of our website and sf.net homepage. thanks!


-- taka

Re: [Netnice-developer] another team member (if you guys don't mind :-))

[Sergei M. <mo...@op...>]

Takashi,

Thank you for your warm welcome. I am really happy to join the team. So
far, I will check out the code and try to make it compile on my PC,
possibly with -Wall and -pedantic options. As soon as I will get more
familiar with the netnice internals, I will choose my area of interest
on the project. So far, I do not plan to make big changes and commit
something to the CVS - maybe at the beginning I will just send you some
small patches.

PS. BTW, do we have any coding guidelines? I mean, is there conventions
about naming the classes and variables, indentation style and so on?

PPS. I have found netnice because I wanted to join some open-source C++
project. So I looked through the development vacancies on the SF, and I
think netnice was quite a natural choice. Clearly, there is a great idea
behind the project, we have a leader, a web site and docs, some code in
CVS, and, what is most important, a lot of work ahead!

I am not sure how much time I will be able to dedicate for the project,
but I definitely feel very enthusiastic about the whole thing :-))

Thank you,
Sergei.

Re: [Netnice-developer] another team member (if you guys don't mind :-))

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

hi sergei,

thank you for your interest in our project. linux porting is on almost top
of my todo list, but, due to time and resource constraint, it has been
deferred, unwillingly. thus, it would be great if you take part in the
process. i really appreciate your help.

i admit that netnice applications need code-cleaning and more testing.
actually, even the netnice command needs more work. my excuse is, again,
time constraint. since there is limited amount of time, i've been laid
emphasis on the kernel part. so, i appreciate your suggestions, and
it would be also great if the netnice applications become lint-free.

i included your account into our developers. my suggestions about the
applications are described in the sub-project description pages, and
they might be useful for you. since i've been working on kernel,
particularly, the reference implementation on FreeBSD, you may modify
any part of the applications for now. (one exception is netniced, on
which  mike is/will be working. you'll need proper coordination. actually,
"openfile" feature is the one that i do not like most about the netniced
implementation. it should use structures for data passing, and netniced
have to be modified accordingly.)

anyway. welcome to the netnice developers community (it's so small now!),
and, again, thank you for your interest and help!


-- taka

p.s.

can you tell me how you found the project and what part of netnice
interested you. the information is used to improve our homepage
and public relations. thanks!

Sergei Matusevich wrote:
> 
> Dear netnice team,
> 
> My name is Sergei, and I am a C++ developer from New Jersey. I am a
> Linux guy, currently using Debian/unstable with 2.4.23 kernel and gcc
> 3.3.2. I think I can help the project with Linux porting and testing. I
> will be also happy to work on general code optimization and
> beautification, i.e. make it more standard-conforming, lint-free,
> improve const correctness, exception safety, etc.
> 
> For instance: there are places in the netnice code where strings are
> passed by value rather than by reference; using typedef Boolean instead
> of the standard boolean type seems a little bit obsolete IMHO; many
> things are done in C way where C++/STL can be a better solution, and so on.
> 
> e.g. in vif::select_by_openfile() method, there is a buf[MAX_PATH_LEN]
> array, and in the STR_GET macro we have code
> 
> r = fread(dst, sizeof(char), MAX_PATH_LEN, fp);
> *(dst + r) = '\0';
> 
> That is, we write '\0' at buf[MAX_PATH_LEN], right AFTER the last
> element of buf[]. The program does not crash just because there are
> other variables on stack after buf[].
> 
> Don't get me wrong: the project is great, that's why I have chosen it
> out of 320+ others that also seek for developers on SF. What I want to
> say is that I really like the team and the attitude here on netnice, I
> see a great potential and room for improvement in the code, and I will
> be happy to join the crew and help making the project better.
> 
> As for my technical qualification, please look at my resume online at
> http://motus.kiev.ua/motus2/Work/cv_matusevich.html
> 
> PS. my SF login is 'motus'.
> 
> Thank you and have a great day,
> Sergei.
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[Netnice-developer] another team member (if you guys don't mind :-))

[Sergei M. <mo...@op...>]

Dear netnice team,

My name is Sergei, and I am a C++ developer from New Jersey. I am a 
Linux guy, currently using Debian/unstable with 2.4.23 kernel and gcc 
3.3.2. I think I can help the project with Linux porting and testing. I 
will be also happy to work on general code optimization and 
beautification, i.e. make it more standard-conforming, lint-free, 
improve const correctness, exception safety, etc.

For instance: there are places in the netnice code where strings are 
passed by value rather than by reference; using typedef Boolean instead 
of the standard boolean type seems a little bit obsolete IMHO; many 
things are done in C way where C++/STL can be a better solution, and so on.

e.g. in vif::select_by_openfile() method, there is a buf[MAX_PATH_LEN] 
array, and in the STR_GET macro we have code

r = fread(dst, sizeof(char), MAX_PATH_LEN, fp);
*(dst + r) = '\0';

That is, we write '\0' at buf[MAX_PATH_LEN], right AFTER the last 
element of buf[]. The program does not crash just because there are 
other variables on stack after buf[].

Don't get me wrong: the project is great, that's why I have chosen it 
out of 320+ others that also seek for developers on SF. What I want to 
say is that I really like the team and the attitude here on netnice, I 
see a great potential and room for improvement in the code, and I will 
be happy to join the crew and help making the project better.

As for my technical qualification, please look at my resume online at
http://motus.kiev.ua/motus2/Work/cv_matusevich.html

PS. my SF login is 'motus'.

Thank you and have a great day,
Sergei.

[Netnice-developer] netnice2-111003-SNAP

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

dear netnice folks,


i've made the code stabilization hack, which i've been mentioning
so many times, and ported the code to FreeBSD4.9, the latest version
of the OS just released. the latest SNAP with both FB4.7 and 4.8 patch
is available at netnice project homepage.

	http://sourceforge.net/projects/netnice

mike, can you try your script that made the system down, and check the
stability??

Regarding the netnice packet filter, i will finish the implementation
within november, since i'm intending to submit a paper about its design
to Usenix this december. I want to include the feature in the release
version of Netnice 2.1, as well as the OpenBSD port and NetBSD port,
but, i'm not quite sure about its schedule; hopefully by the end of the
year, but, maybe it would be hard.

anyway, i thank you for your patience and cooperation.

thanks!

-- taka

Re: [Netnice-developer] Re: Homepage updated

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

hi nico,

op...@so... wrote:
> 
> Taka,
> 
> pf also runs in NetBSD and FreeBSD. You might want to change that in the
> chart. 

oh. thanks. i committed the change, just now.

> Another thing, did you check if the OpenBSD branch got commited?

yes, both "r34" and "netnice34" is on our cvs repository. i checked on
their web cvs interface.


thanks,


-- taka

[Netnice-developer] Re: Homepage updated

[<op...@so...>]

Taka, 

pf also runs in NetBSD and FreeBSD. You might want to change that in the
chart. Another thing, did you check if the OpenBSD branch got commited?
As far as I could check, only the kernel snapshot without the netnice
modifications got into CVSweb. I tried to check it right now but it seems
that the SourceForge site is down for maintenance. 

Nico. 


P.S.: I will also check it later, but just in case I forget. 


Takashi Okumura writes: 

> hello! 
> 
> i'm having scheduling problems, and couldn't commit so much these days. 
> 
> btw, i updated the following page to show advantages of netnice over
> dummynet/ipfw/altq/pf. 
> 
> 	http://www.netnice.org/about.html 
> 
> i would appreciate any comments. 
> 
> 
> thanks! 
> 
> -- taka 
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[Netnice-developer] Homepage updated

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

hello!

i'm having scheduling problems, and couldn't commit so much these days.

btw, i updated the following page to show advantages of netnice over
dummynet/ipfw/altq/pf.

	http://www.netnice.org/about.html

i would appreciate any comments.


thanks!

-- taka

[Netnice-developer] OpenBSD port update

[<op...@so...>]

Hi all, 

Up to now I have 1500 lines of code from the FreeBSD patch, ported
to OpenBSD. The only problem is that I still have 4200 to go :-) 

I wonder if it will compile when I finish it... heheheheheh 

Nico.

[Netnice-developer] [netnice matsuri] something is happening...

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

Takashi Okumura wrote:
>
> another news. as you might have realized, i had a contact from a sourceforge
> developer, anupam, and i included him as another developer of the sf.net
> project. further, based on a short description of the project status i sent
> to him, i posted a help-wanted ad at sf.net. let's see what happens.
> 

seems like something has happened... just take a look...

	https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=87780


-- taka

[Netnice-developer] FreeBSD4.8 Support

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

hi,

i've just committed the latest change on the nn kernel patch for FreeBSD.
it is now upgraded to FreeBSD 4.8, the latest version of FB48 branch.
module is FreeBSD, and tag is netnice48. though it is not fully functional,
i'll debug it within this week. 

after stabilizing the code, before going into the Netnice Packet Filter hack,
i want to release netnice-2.1 package. we may include OpenBSD and NetBSD patch,
together with the latest multi-platform userland applications. i would really
appreciate if you participate in the packaging process.

thanks!


-- taka

[Netnice-developer] OpenBSD port

[<op...@so...>]

Hi all, 

My name is Nicolas Baldi and I am working on the OpenBSD port for Netnice.
I just want to give you all an update of what I've been doing... 

Up to this day I worked on /src/netnice and /src/netniced. Both of them
compile without a problem. Right now I am working directly on the kernel
patch. It won't be hard to do it, since I already started it. I just need
to be more familiar with the way that FreeBSD handles the drivers. Once
I have this done I will continue with the modification of /src/sh. Which
in OpenBSD is the Korn Shell -ksh- (not Bash), and also the C Shell -csh-.
The lastest thing that I will port will be the /src/inetd daemon. 

Taka will make some big modifications over the FreeBSD kernel for the
next release of Netnice in the next couple of months. But I feel that if
we have a working version of current Netnice, it will make the porting
of the new version easier. 

Once I finish the port for OpenBSD, the NetBSD one won't be much of
a trouble. Since the kernel structure is almost identical between the
two OS's. 

It would be great if someone can start working on the Darwin port.
I don't know if Taka agrees with me, but you can get an ISO from Apple
to run Darwin on a ix86 machine. So you don't need a G4 to start working.
The ISO is free to download at Apple's website. 

Later,
Nico.

[Netnice-developer] Repository Updated

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

Dear netnice hackers,

as announced, i've updated the source repository. this is to accommodate the
changes that will be made for future multi-plathome support. it is, still,
quite incomplete, requiring many makefiles and readmes. however, i believe
that the framework is good enough as a starting point.

i will make some updates on netniced for the rest of the week, and then,
go down into FreeBSD kernel...

pls feel free to make any changes. any contributions and suggestions are
highly appreciated :-)


thanks, 

-- taka

Re: [Netnice-developer] request to join the team

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

hello kshitij!

thanks for the contact. yes, we welcome you.

to get started, can you register yourself to sf.net so that i can
include you to the developer member list? it will give you full access
to the source repository (though, it is still under construction).


currently, our todo list includes following topics;

 - packaging system for the multi-platform source repository

to support various platforms, we will release a package with
source codes and installation scripts of various OSs. to this end,
we are currently discussing how to hold source repository, how the
directories in the package be organized, etc. this part will finish
in a week or two.

 - stabilization of FreeBSD kernel patch

for the latest release, netnice-2.1, i will try to stabilize the main
development branch upto production level. then, the stable will be ported
to OpenBSD and NetBSD, shortly. i want to finish this part in September.

 - adding of packet monitoring feature to virtual network interface

we are trying to extend our primitive, virtual network interface, to
support BPF like monitoring feature. actually, i'll make it BPF compatible
so that libpcap, tcpdump, ethereal, etc, would work on each virtualized
interface. i'll finish this in October.

 - expansion of the QoS daemon, netniced.

to make most of the advanced primitive for network monitoring and control,
i am extending the highly-flexible QoS daemon, netniced. main focus is laid
on its scripting environment. i'm now embedding a JavaScript interpreter,
SpiderMonkey (Mozilla's JS engine) to netniced so that traffic control
application is easily written by JavaScript. however, although this would be
an attractive multi-platform application (application platform, to be exact),
i do not have enough time for this part, and thus, need more help; class
library developer, application programmer, document writer, etc.

 - testing of the traffic control module for Apache, mod_netnice

although i wrote an apache module, mod_netnice, last year, it has not been
well tested. so, we need somebody to take care of the application.

 - multi-platform support

as a mult-platform primitive, we will port the system onto OpenBSD, NetBSD,
Darwin, and Linux. *BSD porting would not be too laborious, although Darwin
porting may, and Linux porting can be a bit hard. however, i have once ported
netnice version 1 to linux before, and thus, following the steps i made, it
would not be impossible. this is the part that we really need more workforce.


any information about your preferred area of task might be helpful, and pls
feel free to ask any sort of questions. lastly, just for marketing purpose,
can you tell us how you found the project, and what interested you, in
particular? this would be used to improve our public relations and project
homepage.

again, thank you for your contact, and welcome to the netnice developers
community!!


-- taka

kshitij gunjikar wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>   I'm Kshitij Gunjikar and work in the area of TCP/IP,
> routers and ATM and have 3 yrs experience in this
> area.
>  I'm currently work on multi processor platform and
> have
> experience in IPv4, NAT, ARP, proxy ARP, RIP,
> classification, UDP, ICMP, router architechture,
> TCP/IP stacks, ATM.
>  As far as education is concerned I have Bachelor's
> degree in Comp. Sci . I know C,C++, Assmebly,
> Unix/Linux, Windows .
> 
> Can I join the group?
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Kshitij
> 
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[Netnice-developer] request to join the team

[kshitij g. <ksh...@ya...>]

Hi,
  I'm Kshitij Gunjikar and work in the area of TCP/IP,
routers and ATM and have 3 yrs experience in this
area.
 I'm currently work on multi processor platform and
have 
experience in IPv4, NAT, ARP, proxy ARP, RIP,
classification, UDP, ICMP, router architechture,
TCP/IP stacks, ATM. 
 As far as education is concerned I have Bachelor's
degree in Comp. Sci . I know C,C++, Assmebly,
Unix/Linux, Windows .

Can I join the group? 

Thanks and Regards
Kshitij

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[Netnice-developer] Request for Comment: Netnice 2.1 package

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

dear netnice developers,


here is the suggested plan of the package and repository structure.
pls, send comments to me, if any. since i will import the new netniced
source (with JavaScript support) shortly, i would appreciate your prompt
reply.

another news. as you might have realized, i had a contact from a sourceforge
developer, anupam, and i included him as another developer of the sf.net
project. further, based on a short description of the project status i sent
to him, i posted a help-wanted ad at sf.net. let's see what happens.

thanks,


-- taka

*** package structure ***

netnice-2.10/	common/	src/	netnice/
				netniced/
				mod_netnice/
				vifctl/
			conf/
			doc/

		FreeBSD/sys/	** patch **
			src/	inetd/
				sh/
				libpcap/
			etc/
			README

		NetBSD/
		OpenBSD/
		Darwin/
		Linux/
		README


*** cvs repository ***

cvsroot/netnice/	package structure (shown above)

	FreeBSD/	FreeBSD kernel patch (goes into sys/ of the platform)
	NetBSD/		NetBSD kernel patch
	OpenBSD/	OpenBSD kernel patch
	Darwin/		MacOS X kernel patch
	Linux/		Linux kernel patch

	www/		project homepage

[Netnice-developer] Re: SOURCEFORGE.net project - netnice

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

hi,

since we'll make substantial modification to the main branch for the
monitoring feature in the coming several months, it might be better
for you to join after the period. meanwhile, you are really welcome
to subscribe the developer ML, to get used to the project activity.

regarding the userland programmability, it is actually one of the advantages
of the approach, over other implementations of network traffic control,
such as ALTQ, Linux Traffic Shaper, dummynet, OpenBSD PF, ipfw, etc...
So, we are investing on the extension of netniced, which is a flexible
platform for traffic monitoring and control. This daemon offers JavaScript
environment for various traffic control and  monitoring (after the planned
extension). you may find useful info at the following locations. if time
permits, pls just take a look at the intro of our CCGrid paper, which is
the most complete description of the daemon available at this point of time,
and might satisfy some of your current needs.

	http://www.netnice.org/app_netniced.html
	http://www.netnice.org/documents.html


regarding the library support, i think the class-library of the daemon
can be easily transformed into such form. if you could contribute for
this part, it would be really nice. :-)


thanks!

-- taka

p.s.

i'm CC'ing the message to the devel-ML just for information sharing purpose.
if you feel it uneasy, please let me know (and forgive me!)


Anupam Anand wrote:
> 
> Hi Taka,
> 
> Thankx for the email. I look forward to working on the
> project once the monitoring stuff is completed.
> As for the advice/suggestions, it'll be great if one
> could implement this system in a library form or in
> some other user mode form as well.
> 
> Thats all for now. I can be reached on yahoo -
> oxlo_olxo and on AOL - ijammeddweb.
> 
> Thankx
> Best wishes,
> Anupam ANand
> 
> --- Takashi Okumura <ta...@cs...> wrote:
> > hi anupam,
> >
> > thank you for the contact. we are now shifting
> > towards multi-platform
> > support, and thus, seriously looking for talented
> > developers. for now,
> > our todo list includes following topics;
> >
> >  - packaging system for the multi-platform source
> > repository (1m)
> >  - stabilization of FreeBSD kernel patch, our main
> > development branch  (2m)
> >  - adding of packet monitoring feature to virtual
> > network interface (3m)
> >  - expansion of the QoS daemon, netniced.
> >       - JavaScript support (ad)
> >       - Class library development  (nsy)
> >       - Development of Applications (nsy)
> >  - testing of the traffic control module for Apache,
> > mod_netnice (nsy)
> >  - porting to OpenBSD (3m)
> >  - porting to NetBSD (3m)
> >  - porting to Linux (6m)
> >  - porting to Darwin (nsy)
> >
> > the codes following each item are their scheduling
> > status.
> >
> >       1m:     will finish in a month
> >       2m:     will finish in a couple of months
> >       ad:     almost done
> >       nsy:    not scheduled yet
> >
> > pls, subscribe the official MLs, and send a brief
> > self-introduction to the
> > developer ML to ease the further communication. as
> > an opensource project,
> > i'm trying to be as flexible as possible so that we
> > can cooperate with
> > many potential developers. comments, suggestions,
> > criticism are always
> > welcome, and, your commitment is highly appreciated
> > :-)
> >
> > regarding the sources you requested, the latest
> > release is available on
> > our project homepage (www.netnice.org).
> > unfortunately, we have not finished
> > moving the source repository onto cvs server of
> > sourceforge, and thus, the
> > latest snapshot is not yet available. the cvs
> > migration will take several
> > more weeks. indeed, it is the hot issue how to keep
> > the source code repository
> > to accommodate the source trees for various
> > platforms. we appreciate any
> > suggestion in this regard, also. i will add you to
> > the developer list of
> > sf.net, shortly.
> >
> > again. thanks for your interest in our project, and
> > welcome to the
> > netnice developers community!
> >
> >
> > -- taka
> >
> >
> > anupam anand wrote:
> > >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > i am interestd in developing for and testing your
> > project.
> > >
> > > please add me to your developers list and send me
> > the code
> > >
> > > alongwith the instructions regarding what has to
> > be done next.
> > >
> > > thank you
> > >
> > > best wishes,
> > >
> > > ANU
> 
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[Netnice-developer] Re: SOURCEFORGE.net project - netnice

[Takashi O. <ta...@cs...>]

hi anupam,

thank you for the contact. we are now shifting towards multi-platform
support, and thus, seriously looking for talented developers. for now,
our todo list includes following topics;

 - packaging system for the multi-platform source repository (1m)
 - stabilization of FreeBSD kernel patch, our main development branch  (2m)
 - adding of packet monitoring feature to virtual network interface (3m)
 - expansion of the QoS daemon, netniced.
	- JavaScript support (ad)
	- Class library development  (nsy)
	- Development of Applications (nsy)
 - testing of the traffic control module for Apache, mod_netnice (nsy)
 - porting to OpenBSD (3m)
 - porting to NetBSD (3m)
 - porting to Linux (6m)
 - porting to Darwin (nsy)

the codes following each item are their scheduling status.

	1m:	will finish in a month
	2m:	will finish in a couple of months
	ad:	almost done
	nsy:	not scheduled yet

pls, subscribe the official MLs, and send a brief self-introduction to the
developer ML to ease the further communication. as an opensource project,
i'm trying to be as flexible as possible so that we can cooperate with
many potential developers. comments, suggestions, criticism are always
welcome, and, your commitment is highly appreciated :-)

regarding the sources you requested, the latest release is available on
our project homepage (www.netnice.org). unfortunately, we have not finished
moving the source repository onto cvs server of sourceforge, and thus, the
latest snapshot is not yet available. the cvs migration will take several
more weeks. indeed, it is the hot issue how to keep the source code repository
to accommodate the source trees for various platforms. we appreciate any
suggestion in this regard, also. i will add you to the developer list of
sf.net, shortly.

again. thanks for your interest in our project, and welcome to the
netnice developers community!


-- taka


anupam anand wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> i am interestd in developing for and testing your project.
> 
> please add me to your developers list and send me the code
> 
> alongwith the instructions regarding what has to be done next.
> 
> thank you
> 
> best wishes,
> 
> ANU

Re: [Netnice-developer] hello friends!

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

dear netnice developers,

i had a working lunch with nico today, and, we discussed the directory
structure for the new version. i've not decided the version number of the
package (netnice-2.1, or netnice-3.0), but, maybe 2.1 is better.

nico, can you post a message describing the directory structure, so that
we may improve it before creating the cvs modules? also, i would be happy
if you put NetBSD entry next to OpenBSD's, since wada-san is a NetBSD
proponent :-)

thanks,


-- taka

[Netnice-developer] hello friends!

[Takashi O. <ta...@wi...>]

dear netnice developers,

this is the netnice developers ML.

nico, i included you to further discuss the issue related to the package.
hope this is okay with you. also, i included my friend, wada-san, who is
a experienced kernel hacker. he'll help us, particularly for beta-testing.

wada-san, thank you for the help. i appreciate your help. nico is an
undergrad, from Argentina. he is an active OpenBSD evangelist. the attached
message is the one i've just sent to nico, and included in this message,
just to give a brief background information. please feel free to post,
but, just read-only is okay.

i'll shortly create netnice-users, also, for active users.

lastly, please note that the ML is open to public. but, you feel it uneasy,
i may change it to private one, just for now. i'm flexible about this.


thanks!


-- taka


Nicolas Baldi wrote:
> 
> > first, i'm planning to import a good JavaScript interpreter package for
> > script processing engine. i mentioned "NJS JavaScript Interpreter" in the
> > paper,
> > but, i found "SpiderMonkey" is better, which is a JS interpreter for
> > Mozilla.
> > there exists another implementation, KJS, but, SpiderMonkey is the best
> > among
> > these.
> 
> Are you sure you need something that big? I have no strong opinion on that.
> Are you going to use that to interpret what?

a functional, reliable, OS-independent scripting environment for highly-flex
traffic control and monitoring will be our best advantage. please just think of
the following applications possible with a short lines of the script.

        o wireless-lan bandwidth broker
        o personal firewall
        o personal network QoS manager
        o network semantics-analyzer
        o distributed traffic controller for server clusters
        o QoS "Degradation" manager for worm extermination

size of the code doesn't matter here. by having better scripting engine,
we could provide far better product that would inspire and attract many
programmers.

just stretch your imagination. with JavaScript, we can support variety of
built-in object, such as a built-in RSVP object, with which various platform
can take advantage of the resource reservation feature easily (this is not
true now!). with the JavaScript capability, programmers can write even
their own objects for network monitoring and control. for example, i will
write a packet monitoring object, and inheriting its property, i will write
a semantics-analyser object. then, inheriting the object, i will write a
dedicated semantics-analyser for a certain class of medical traffic, which
is capable of controlling its own traffic based on the semantics of
communication.

This programming freedom is NEVER possible with any other implementation ever
existed on earth. actually, just by coming up with an innovative script,
you'll be able to write an striking paper. each of the examples above worth
an acceptance of fairly good conference, i think. and, not only we can write
so many excellent papers, we can change even entire network communication,
by couplling with IPv6 technology, as i will explain later (by exploiting
IPv6 architecture, a simple and smart communication feature between node
scripts becomes possible. this is called Active Networking technology, and it
is really innovative.)

i don't know whether you've been convinced enough. but, this work will be
epoch-making. :-)