From: Victor B. <vi...@fu...> - 2011-12-30 19:53:16
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Some follow up confirmations / questions: 1. Discovery of plugins will be done via main SOAP endpoint. 2. Will the new SOAP types / methods be part of the main SOAP endpoint or are we planning on adding an end point per plugin? 3. The table name used by the plugin seems to be a bit long, we should make sure this doesn't break some DBMSes. I recall Oracle needed short table and field names. Let's verify that. Looking forward for the first implementation. On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Robert Munteanu <rob...@gm... > wrote: > Sure, you're welcome. Let me know when you have at least a > proof-of-concept, as there is some work which should be done in the > SOAP API to expose the information that the timetracking plugin is > SOAP-enabled. > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Michael Baker <myk...@gm...> wrote: > > Excellent, thanks for the help Robert. > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Robert Munteanu > > <rob...@gm...> wrote: > >> > >> Then it should be possible to expose separate SOAP methods which will > >> > >> - lookup time tracking data by user id/issue id > >> - create/edit/delete individual time tracking data > >> > >> The most straightforward way of doing this would be to use the nusoap > >> library, like the rest of Mantis. Have a look at /api/soap/ in the > >> mantisbt repository ( mantisconnect.php is the entry point ) and let > >> me know of any questions you might have. > >> > >> Robert > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Michael Baker <myk...@gm...> > wrote: > >> > No, they are stored in the mantis_plugin_TimeTracking_data_table. They > >> > link > >> > to the rest of the data through the issue id and the user id. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Robert Munteanu > >> > <rob...@gm...> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Are these entries stored as bug notes or different objects? > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Michael Baker <myk...@gm...> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > I'd like to be able to add/edit/delete records from the > timetracking > >> >> > plugin > >> >> > table through the API. It would probably be good to be able to get > a > >> >> > list of > >> >> > time entries for a given issue as well. My end goal is to enhance > the > >> >> > Rachota time tracker or create a netbeans plugin to manage time > >> >> > entries > >> >> > for > >> >> > Mantis. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Robert Munteanu > >> >> > <rob...@gm...> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Mike, what are the operations you look to expose through the SOAP > >> >> >> API? > >> >> >> I've written a longer reply below, which I'll keep for context, > but > >> >> >> depending on your needs we might get away with a much simpler > >> >> >> implementation. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Victor, I mostly agree with your analysis , and I think that the > >> >> >> timetracking plugin might be a good candidate to enhance the SOAP > >> >> >> API > >> >> >> with plugin-provided properties and methods. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Context: I believe that (1) allowing plugins to expose their own > >> >> >> methods and data types is the simplest way to achieve our goals. > We > >> >> >> could also allow the plugins to (2) contribute field declarations > >> >> >> using a mechanism similar to the custom fields. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> There is one drawback to (1) though, which I will illustrate > below. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> For instance, assume we have a 'sign-off' plugin which requires a > >> >> >> user > >> >> >> with an access level of manager or higher for a project to fill > in a > >> >> >> 'Sign-Off' field before an issue is closed. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> If we choose (1) we lose the opportunity to validate this data. > The > >> >> >> client has no way of sending the 'Sign-Off' field with the issue > >> >> >> using > >> >> >> the current APIs, so we should not validate it. This places the > >> >> >> burden > >> >> >> on the client to call additional methods and creates a large risk > of > >> >> >> storing inconsistent data. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> If we choose (2) we will require (a) the plugins to expose the > data > >> >> >> in a declarative manner, similar to how custom fields are > >> >> >> contributed > >> >> >> and (b) the SOAP API (or the core API?) to perform validation on > >> >> >> behalf of the plugins in a output-independent way ( i.e. no HTML > ). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> To make our options even more interesting, (1) and (2) are not > >> >> >> mutually exclusive, and such a combination will probably the best > >> >> >> way > >> >> >> for complex plugins. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Victor Boctor > >> >> >> <vi...@fu...> wrote: > >> >> >> > Looking at the discussions / wiki, here are my thoughts: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > 1. Use the capabilities model suggested in the wiki - this > >> >> >> > provides > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > MantisBT core and plugins and with the version for each. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > 2. Allow plugins to define their own data types and methods. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > 3. Optimization: we can consider adding a property bag to > methods > >> >> >> > that > >> >> >> > return projects, issues, notes, to allow plugins to bundle their > >> >> >> > own > >> >> >> > fields, > >> >> >> > e.g. timetracking_blah1, timetracking_blah2. This can be > achieved > >> >> >> > via 1 > >> >> >> > + > >> >> >> > 2, but it provides a less chatty approach. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Michael Baker > >> >> >> > <myk...@gm...> > >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Months later I am back on this same topic again. I am > considering > >> >> >> >> this > >> >> >> >> in > >> >> >> >> relation to the timetracking plugin and would like to be able > to > >> >> >> >> submit > >> >> >> >> dates and times through the API to be submitted into the > plugin's > >> >> >> >> table. Has > >> >> >> >> any progress been made in this area? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I don't know a lot about the standards involved in using SOAP, > >> >> >> >> but > >> >> >> >> should > >> >> >> >> the plugins provide their own separate interface? Maybe the > main > >> >> >> >> interface > >> >> >> >> could have an option to list out the available plugins and then > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> user > >> >> >> >> could query that plugin for it's custom interface? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Mike > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Robert Munteanu > >> >> >> >> <rob...@gm...> wrote: > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Michael Baker > >> >> >> >>> <myk...@gm...> > >> >> >> >>> wrote: > >> >> >> >>> > Is it possible for plugins to hook into and pass information > >> >> >> >>> > through > >> >> >> >>> > the API > >> >> >> >>> > as well? > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Hi, > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> There is no mechanism for this yet. I've tried to sum up our > >> >> >> >>> discussion > >> >> >> >>> at > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > http://www.mantisbt.org/wiki/doku.php/mantisbt:soap_and_plugins > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Please have a look and reply if you have some comments and/or > >> >> >> >>> additions. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Robert > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> >> >>> > Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. > >> >> >> >>> > Take our quick survey online. 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