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From: Taylor, F. <for...@in...> - 2003-02-04 00:08:13
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Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > sorry i've been so out of touch lately -- lots of projects on the > go at the moment. > > at the moment, i'm writing a short chapter on how to start > programming on linux -- scripting, setting up java, and so on. > i'm going to discuss how to start writing code in shell, perl, > c and c++, ruby and java. > > any others that should be included here? without getting > obscenely obscure, that is. > > rday How about python, as it seems to be the favorite of the Red Hat developpers. Forrest -- |
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From: Robert P. J. D. <rp...@mi...> - 2003-02-03 23:19:54
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sorry i've been so out of touch lately -- lots of projects on the go at the moment. at the moment, i'm writing a short chapter on how to start programming on linux -- scripting, setting up java, and so on. i'm going to discuss how to start writing code in shell, perl, c and c++, ruby and java. any others that should be included here? without getting obscenely obscure, that is. rday -- Robert P. J. Day, RHCE Eno River Technologies, Inc. Unix, Linux and Open Source training Chapel Hill, NC Waterloo, ON http://www.linux-migration.org |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-01-31 15:38:57
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Thank you very much Patrick Op vr 31-01-2003, om 02:37 schreef Taylor, ForrestX: > On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 15:09, Martin Stricker wrote: > > "Taylor, ForrestX" wrote: > > > The file is in OpenOffice.org format. If you need a different > > format, let me know. > > Plain text would be wonderful. In emacs I see some XML header > information and a lot of binary ghibberish... > > Thank you very much! > > Best regards, > Martin Stricker > > > Plain text it is. Sorry about that. I am just going to cut/paste, so I > apologize if it is not very readable. > > --------------------------------------------- > > Ghosting Red Hat Linux with grub and ext3 partitions > > > This white paper describes how to ghost Linux partitions, especially > those with ext3 partitions. Since Red Hat Linux 7.2, the default > partition type has been ext3, which is a journalling file system. Ghost > does not recognize the partition as an ext3 partition, and thus removes > the journal inode. In order to get Linux to boot after having ghosted > it, you must recreate the joural filesystem. This has been verified > with Ghost 2001 and Red Hat Linux 8.0. > > > I. This assumes that you already know how to use ghost and and that > you have some Linux experience. If you are ghosting a dual-boot machine > (booting to Linux and Windows or another operating system), and the > other operating system won’t boot, you may need to repair the MBR for > the other operating system. Once you can boot successfully, run the > steps below to reinstall grub. Before you begin, you should write down > the names of the Linux partitions on the original disk. `fdisk –l` or > `df` inside of Linux should show you the partitions. Write down the > /dev/???? names and their corresponding mount points. > E.g., > /dev/hda2 /boot > /dev/hda5 / > /dev/hda6 /usr > > > II. After ghost has completed, you should try to reboot to see if, by > chance, it worked. Most likely you will get a GRUB screen with a > blinking cursor. First you need to get a Red Hat Linux CD (disc 1), and > boot into rescue mode: > > a. Boot from the CD > b .Type `linux rescue` at the boot: prompt. > c.If it asks about verifying your disc, TAB to Skip and hit Enter. > Ans wer the questions about your language and keyboard, and Skip the > question about mounting your partitions. > d. Find out which partitions are Linux native (0x83) if you haven’t > done so already. Write these down for the next step > i. fdisk –l (or `fdisk –l /dev/hda`, `fdisk –l /dev/hdb`, > `fdisk -l /dev/sda`, etc.). Write down the Linux partitions (e.g., > /dev/hda2, /dev/hda5, etc.). > > > III. Now you need to remove the information about the journalling > inode, and rejournal the partition. This will not cause loss of data. > > a.tune2fs –O ^has_journal /dev/hda2 (capital o) > b.Repeat for each Linux partition. > c.tune2fs –j /dev/hda2 > d.Repeat for each Linux partition > > > IV. Mount the / and /boot (if you have one) partitions on /mnt/sysimage > and /mnt/sysimage/boot respectively. If you are not sure which is the / > or /boot partition, try mounting each of the Linux partitions, and see > if it contains boot/, bin/, sbin/, root/, etc. directories. Once you > mount /, check the boot/ directory to see if it contains kernel-* and > vmlinuz-* files. If it contains no files, /boot is on a separate > partition, and you will need to mount it. > > a. mkdir /mnt/sysimage > b. mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/sysimage (where hda5 is your actual / > partition) > c. mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/sysimage (where hda2 is your actual /boot > partition. Only mount it if /boot is on a separate partition.) > d. chroot /mnt/sysimage > e. grub-install /dev/hda (where /dev/hda is the disk that boots > first. This will write grub to the MBR of the disk. If your Linux > partitions are similar to /dev/hda5 or /dev/hdb2, you should use > /dev/hda. If your Linux partitions are /dev/sda5 or /dev/sdb2 (SCSI > disks), you should use /dev/sda.) > f. Type `exit` to exit the chrooted environment. > > > V. Type `exit` to exit rescue mode, and make sure that you remove the > CD so that it doesn’t boot from CD again. > VI.Grub should now work, and you should be able to boot other OSes as > well. > > ------------------------------------ > > Let me know if that doesn't work better. > > Forrest -- Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2003-01-31 02:18:31
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"Taylor, ForrestX" wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 15:09, Martin Stricker wrote: > > "Taylor, ForrestX" wrote: > > > The file is in OpenOffice.org format. If you need a different > > format, let me know. > > Plain text would be wonderful. In emacs I see some XML header > information and a lot of binary ghibberish... > Plain text it is. Sorry about that. I am just going to cut/paste, > so I apologize if it is not very readable. Absolutely perfect! Now I can throw in the needed DocBook XML tags to incorporate this into the project. Thank you very much! Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
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From: Taylor, F. <for...@in...> - 2003-01-31 01:31:09
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On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 15:09, Martin Stricker wrote: "Taylor, ForrestX" wrote: > The file is in OpenOffice.org format. If you need a different > format, let me know. Plain text would be wonderful. In emacs I see some XML header information and a lot of binary ghibberish... Thank you very much! Best regards, Martin Stricker Plain text it is. Sorry about that. I am just going to cut/paste, so I apologize if it is not very readable. --------------------------------------------- Ghosting Red Hat Linux with grub and ext3 partitions This white paper describes how to ghost Linux partitions, especially those with ext3 partitions. Since Red Hat Linux 7.2, the default partition type has been ext3, which is a journalling file system. Ghost does not recognize the partition as an ext3 partition, and thus removes the journal inode. In order to get Linux to boot after having ghosted it, you must recreate the joural filesystem. This has been verified with Ghost 2001 and Red Hat Linux 8.0. I. This assumes that you already know how to use ghost and and that you have some Linux experience. If you are ghosting a dual-boot machine (booting to Linux and Windows or another operating system), and the other operating system won=E2=80=99t boot, you may need to repair the MBR f= or the other operating system. Once you can boot successfully, run the steps below to reinstall grub. Before you begin, you should write down the names of the Linux partitions on the original disk. `fdisk =E2=80=93l= ` or `df` inside of Linux should show you the partitions. Write down the /dev/???? names and their corresponding mount points. E.g., /dev/hda2 /boot /dev/hda5 / /dev/hda6 /usr II. After ghost has completed, you should try to reboot to see if, by chance, it worked. Most likely you will get a GRUB screen with a blinking cursor. First you need to get a Red Hat Linux CD (disc 1), and boot into rescue mode: a. Boot from the CD b .Type `linux rescue` at the boot: prompt. c.If it asks about verifying your disc, TAB to Skip and hit Enter.=20 Ans wer the questions about your language and keyboard, and Skip the question about mounting your partitions. d. Find out which partitions are Linux native (0x83) if you haven=E2=80= =99t done so already. Write these down for the next step i. fdisk =E2=80=93l (or `fdisk =E2=80=93l /dev/hda`, `fdisk =E2= =80=93l /dev/hdb`, `fdisk -l /dev/sda`, etc.). Write down the Linux partitions (e.g., /dev/hda2, /dev/hda5, etc.). III. Now you need to remove the information about the journalling inode, and rejournal the partition. This will not cause loss of data. a.tune2fs =E2=80=93O ^has_journal /dev/hda2 (capital o) b.Repeat for each Linux partition. c.tune2fs =E2=80=93j /dev/hda2 d.Repeat for each Linux partition IV. Mount the / and /boot (if you have one) partitions on /mnt/sysimage and /mnt/sysimage/boot respectively. If you are not sure which is the / or /boot partition, try mounting each of the Linux partitions, and see if it contains boot/, bin/, sbin/, root/, etc. directories. Once you mount /, check the boot/ directory to see if it contains kernel-* and vmlinuz-* files. If it contains no files, /boot is on a separate partition, and you will need to mount it. a. mkdir /mnt/sysimage b. mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/sysimage (where hda5 is your actual / partition) c. mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/sysimage (where hda2 is your actual /boot partition. Only mount it if /boot is on a separate partition.) d. chroot /mnt/sysimage e. grub-install /dev/hda (where /dev/hda is the disk that boots first. This will write grub to the MBR of the disk. If your Linux partitions are similar to /dev/hda5 or /dev/hdb2, you should use /dev/hda. If your Linux partitions are /dev/sda5 or /dev/sdb2 (SCSI disks), you should use /dev/sda.) f. Type `exit` to exit the chrooted environment. V. Type `exit` to exit rescue mode, and make sure that you remove the CD so that it doesn=E2=80=99t boot from CD again. VI.Grub should now work, and you should be able to boot other OSes as well. ------------------------------------ Let me know if that doesn't work better. Forrest --=20 |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-01-28 17:48:21
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Martin, I'm subscribed now at the list. The quote is original dutch but has no author that i know, it because a like to work with databases i use it. Patrick --=20 Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2003-01-26 20:13:46
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Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > If i send a question to this list i can only read the answers on the > mailarchive on sourceforge, is that normal? You are not subscribed to the Linux Migration List. I just checked the listserver. The List is set to accept postings from non-subscribers as well as let non-subscribers use the archive. Subscribe here: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-migration-list > Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. > Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. Do you happen to know from whom this quote is? Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2003-01-25 23:09:59
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"Taylor, ForrestX" wrote: > The file is in OpenOffice.org format. If you need a different > format, let me know. Plain text would be wonderful. In emacs I see some XML header information and a lot of binary ghibberish... Thank you very much! Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-01-25 15:46:54
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Does anyone knows about good url's where i can find more info about TCO and Case studies ? Thanks in advance Patrick --=20 Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg.gz Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-01-25 15:44:36
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Taylor, I would like to have your white paper. I dit not see it on the mailarchive. Can you sent it to my personal Address. OpenOffice format would be fine.=20 If i send a question to this list i can only read the answers on the mailarchive on sourceforge, is that normal? Patrick =20 --=20 Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg.gz Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Taylor, F. <for...@in...> - 2003-01-23 20:31:47
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On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 11:58, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > Hi, > > Whats the best way to install several Linux computers, for Windows i use > Symantec ghost? The documentatios says it can also be used with Linux > but has some some experiance with it? > > Patrick Yes, we do it all the time here. In fact, we often use it for dual-boot machines. There are a few quirks, so I drafted a white paper for my users here. I'll attach it, and maybe the info can be used on the web site. The file is in OpenOffice.org format. If you need a different format, let me know. Forrest -- |
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From: Joe K. <kle...@we...> - 2003-01-23 20:21:47
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oOn Thu, 2003-01-23 at 14:58, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > Whats the best way to install several Linux computers, for Windows i use > Symantec ghost? The documentatios says it can also be used with Linux > but has some some experiance with it? There are a couple of options. I have not tried any of these but one that looks pretty good is ti use the phrealon distribution. You can find it http://www.halfling.org/phrealon. -- "Khaaaaamaaayyyy, Haaaaamaaaayyyy, HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!" -- Goku, Dragon Ball |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-01-23 20:02:47
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Hi, Whats the best way to install several Linux computers, for Windows i use Symantec ghost? The documentatios says it can also be used with Linux but has some some experiance with it? Patrick --=20 Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg.gz Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Javier G. <jgo...@vi...> - 2003-01-15 13:05:45
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 12:44:55PM -0000, Matt Davey wrote: > Thanks. >=20 > My mistake, but I also want to remove all Window client machines as well. > Thus, if one is migrating from W2K server with Active Directory and Window > 2K client to RedHat professional workstations and RedHat servers, what do= es > one run to get the equivalent of ActiveDirectory. Or is there no need in= a > RedHat LAN ? You can have centralized authentication using LDAP or NIS. IIRC, both are covered in the Radhat Official Guides (Reference and Customization). Kerberos might also do what you want, but I'm not quite sure, since I've never used it. In any case, I think the biggest issue you will face is migrating user logins with their passwords. After you are done, you could post your experience on the subject. Cheers, --=20 Javier Gostling Av. Kennedy 5757, of. 1502 Ingeniero de Sistemas Las Condes, Santiago, Chile Virtualia S.A. Fono: +56 (2) 202-6264 x 130 jgo...@vi... Fax: +56 (2) 342-8763 |
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From: Javier G. <jgo...@vi...> - 2003-01-10 13:44:42
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 02:14:40PM +0100, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > Windows have "Domains/Directory Server" and Unix have NIS but are there > other 'Domain' solution for *nix networks?=20 Yes. There are several alternatives: - LDAP (pam_ldap). - Kerberos (pam_krb5). - Windows domains/directory servers (pam_smb). - Another with windows (winbind). I have had good success with pam_smb. Cheers, --=20 Javier Gostling Av. Kennedy 5757, of. 1502 Ingeniero de Sistemas Las Condes, Santiago, Chile Virtualia S.A. Fono: +56 (2) 202-6264 x 130 jgo...@vi... Fax: +56 (2) 342-8763 |
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From: Robert P. J. D. <rp...@mi...> - 2003-01-10 13:41:34
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On 10 Jan 2003, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > Windows have "Domains/Directory Server" and Unix have NIS but are there > other 'Domain' solution for *nix networks? well, NIS+ is an improved version of NIS, but i don't think that ever caught on beyond sun and solaris. but i;m not sure what you mean by "domains". if you just want to subdivide a domain into subdomains, why not just use DNS domains? you know, like ibm.com sales.ibm.com marketing.ibm.com etc. rday |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-01-10 13:15:40
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Windows have "Domains/Directory Server" and Unix have NIS but are there other 'Domain' solution for *nix networks?=20 Patrick --=20 Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg.gz Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2003-01-10 09:33:37
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I'm sorry for the long silence, I had difficulties with my brother's computer while on vacation. I'm back now... Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
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From: Joe K. <kle...@we...> - 2003-01-03 20:19:26
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On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 14:35, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > I'm going to write a paper about migrating a company from windows to > Linux. > Where can i find some good information to start? Well, right now you're probably best doing some googling for it. There will be much more information on the LMP web site in the not to distant future. =20 > When the paper is done i'm going to share it with the linux-migration > project. That is much appreciated. --=20 "Khaaaaamaaayyyy, Haaaaamaaaayyyy, HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!" -- Goku, Dragon Ball |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-01-03 19:36:28
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Hi, I'm going to write a paper about migrating a company from windows to Linux. Where can i find some good information to start? When the paper is done i'm going to share it with the linux-migration project. Patrick --=20 Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg.gz Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2002-12-14 21:57:50
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Another comment: file:///F:/HTML/martin-stricker.de/linux-migration/ch03s08.html the line about cat /etc/redhat-release should clearly state that this is specific to Red Hat Linux. Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2002-12-14 21:44:04
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"Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > i just sent martin a new set of HTML, which contains a fairly > complete, new chapter 2 describing installation. once it's up, > let me know what needs fixing/clarifying. Sorry for the delay in uploading, yesterday I didn't find the time to go through all my email. The new chapter 2 is up now. Enjoy! Comment: Make some of the icons you use with partly transparent background. But this might be a problem of the browser (but I use the latest mozilla!), because the .gif files have transparency, but the .png ones not (and PNG *does* support transparency, even alpha transparency). Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
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From: Robert P. J. D. <rp...@mi...> - 2002-12-13 16:53:19
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i just sent martin a new set of HTML, which contains a fairly complete, new chapter 2 describing installation. once it's up, let me know what needs fixing/clarifying. in particular, i'll probably have to make some tweaks to chapter 3 now, given that i added an entire chapter in front of it. again, feedback. i need feedback. rday |
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From: Robert P. J. D. <rp...@mi...> - 2002-12-13 11:07:16
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Martin Stricker wrote: > Robert again worked on the website, I just uploaded the newest stuff. it's only a few pages of a new second chapter -- i'm actually well on my way to finishing that chapter and will make that available, possibly sometime later today. rday |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2002-12-13 01:38:37
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Robert again worked on the website, I just uploaded the newest stuff. Enjoy! Martin -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
