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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-07-03 17:37:21
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Hi, I'm just starting to write a paper about Migration a Windows company to *nix. This is a paper for my degree in IT and must finish in May 2004. I'm writing this in two languages, Dutch and English, and place a copy of it on my website. The reason i'm sending this mail that i would like to have some feedback and i think this is the right group, to give me some pointers, tell me where i'm wrong, give me advice and so on. And when the paper its done and its good i can give it to the Linix-migration organisation. In this stage there will be typo's in the English text but at the end it should be fine. The site is: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/win2linux/ If you people think that i may ask you this, i shall every time a chapter is done and put on the website, i will send a mail to this group to notify you all. On the otherhand if you say please don't post this here, please tell me and i will not send any mail to this group again. With kind regards Patrick -- "Live long and prosper, Spock." -- T'Pau "I shall do neither. I have killed my captain, and my friend." -- Spock PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B ICQ# 316932703 Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2003-06-11 23:11:40
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Steven wrote: > > qmail > > It has never been cracked or exploited. I run it on all my servers. I don't like qmail's license. Postfix is another reliable mail server. Personally I prefer sendmail, but you need to know how to cunfigure it, and you rarely really need the things only sendmail can do (especially support for old and weird protocols). I'm used to it... Now I mentioned the three (IMHO) most important MTAs for Linux. ;-))) Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 8.0 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
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From: Steven <st...@po...> - 2003-06-11 17:05:12
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qmail It has never been cracked or exploited. I run it on all my servers. On Wednesday 11 June 2003 07:27, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to have your opinion for installing a linux mail server. > Wat are the best programs to use for it. > > The clients must access them from the internet and could be any OS > > Patrick -- Know your neighbor. Discover independent media: http://www.thislife.org/ - This American Life - documenting "everyday life" in the US. http://www.humanmedia.org/ - Promoting "compassion, service, generosity and equality." http://www.worldlinktv.org/ - "a global perspective on news, current events and culture" |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-06-11 14:28:07
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Hi, I would like to have your opinion for installing a linux mail server. Wat are the best programs to use for it. The clients must access them from the internet and could be any OS Patrick -- "Eaten any good books lately?" -- Q (to Worf) (Deja-Q) PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Javier G. <jg...@sa...> - 2003-06-10 16:43:49
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 04:46:54PM +0200, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > i'm looking for some monitoring software, the only i have found until now is BB4, that can monitor several OSen. Check out Nagios (http://www.nagios.org/). Cheers, -- Javier Gostling D. <jg...@sa...> |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-06-10 14:46:59
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Hi, i'm looking for some monitoring software, the only i have found until now is BB4, that can monitor several OSen. Patrick -- "Eaten any good books lately?" -- Q (to Worf) (Deja-Q) PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Francisco N. <fn...@de...> - 2003-06-03 13:04:12
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Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > Hi, > > i need urgend (sorry not my fault) in formation about the "week points" of Microsoft Exchange > > Patrick > Sorry I meant "ms-exchange" "vulnerability" Bye -- Francisco Neira B. /~\ The ASCII Administrador de Red \ / Ribbon Campaign Defensoria del Pueblo X Against Lima, Peru, -05:00 UTC / \ HTML Email PGP Pub Key at http://portal.defensoria.gob.pe/~fneira/llavepublica.asc |
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From: Francisco N. <fn...@de...> - 2003-06-03 13:02:58
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Marquetecken wrote: | Hi, | | i need urgend (sorry not my fault) in formation about the "week points" of Microsoft Exchange | | Patrick | Hi Patrick, I just tried google with "exchange" and "vulnerability", and had a lot of fun ;-) Good luck - -- Francisco Neira B. /~\ The ASCII Administrador de Red \ / Ribbon Campaign Defensoria del Pueblo X Against Lima, Peru, -05:00 UTC / \ HTML Email PGP Pub Key at http://portal.defensoria.gob.pe/~fneira/llavepublica.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+3Jx7kGxqImhGCe4RAicyAJ4+G//tDd3heA3gnbBo6vCCChmTeQCgl120 5/SwU94B9MhdNjA+fG+tx/w= =e/ca -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-06-03 12:57:06
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Hi, i need urgend (sorry not my fault) in formation about the "week points" of Microsoft Exchange Patrick -- "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." Captain Spock in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Anthony J P. <ant...@su...> - 2003-05-22 15:12:22
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On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 10:48, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > Hi, > > I'm migration a Windows2000 IIS with Indexserver to Linux. > > IIS to Apache is no problem all went "well". > > But i have a search program on IIS that uses Indexserver and a Adobe -pluging to do a text search in 60,000 pdf files. > > Witch programs must i have on Linux to do the same? > > Any advice would help me > > Patrick I have learned to love phpdig http://phpdig.toiletoine.net/ indexes pdfs docs rtf & text. relevant keywords & link generation are stored in a MySQL database. From their FAQ "PhpDig is a http spider/search engine written in Php with a MySql database in backend. Indexing after indexing, PhpDig builds a glossary with the key words found in indexed pages. On a search query, it displays a result page with documents which contains the search keys, ranked by occurrence." Take a bit of time to build the initial index (overnight on 13 gigs of PDFs for me) but once it's done it's lightning quick for returns -- Tony Placilla ant...@su... perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10);' |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-05-22 14:49:02
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Hi, I'm migration a Windows2000 IIS with Indexserver to Linux. IIS to Apache is no problem all went "well". But i have a search program on IIS that uses Indexserver and a Adobe -pluging to do a text search in 60,000 pdf files. Witch programs must i have on Linux to do the same? Any advice would help me Patrick -- "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." Spock (Star Trek VI) PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2003-04-15 22:00:44
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Hi all! Sorry I've been away for such a long time. I moved, and the phone company needed moe than a month to get phone and internet working at the new apartment. :-((( The attached file is from the Linux Support by Small Businesses list (informations about the list see the message's footer). The presented project might be of interest for those who want to migrate only part of the computers from Windows to Linux. Best regards, Martin Stricker -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Lssb] LinuxSOE SourceForge Project Date: 15 Apr 2003 07:02:44 +1000 From: Stephan Borg <sb...@li...> Reply-To: ls...@co... Organization: LinuxSOE Pty Ltd To: ls...@co... Hello all, This is a just a heads up of something I'm trying to get off the ground that may be of interest to some of you. I realise that this list consists of business owners that already have their own custom Linux Office server and desktop installs. I'm posting this in the hope that some people be willing to contribute their ideas and experiences for the common good.Currently, I'm not aware of any other projects with similar goals - please let me know if this is incorrect. I've been working on two products since last October. I've since decided that I should open source the work in an effort to gain more input, more testing and fast-track the development cycle to become viable alternatives, a task which cannot be easily achieved on my own. LinuxSOE Corporate Desktop aims to seamlessly integrate a Linux desktop into a non-Linux environment, with minimal or no changes to existing server infrastructure. This allows corporate entities to use Linux desktops, without going through the process of modifying any existing infrastructure. Migrations can be staggered and users will continue to work seamlessly with other employees. The software consists of Perl scripts which configure a Linux desktop to fit into a corporate environment. A config file controls what Windows domain, active directory or NDS tree to attach too, along with other components such as web proxy, email systems, etc are also automatically configured. Scripts will be designed for different distrbutions in an effort to help Linux get to the corporate desktop. Examples of pending issues would be using MS Proxy 2 with NTLM authentication. Currently, HOWTOs for such tasks are outdated or not complete. The project would strive to keep these HOWTOs up-to-date as distributions are updated. The other product is LinuxSOE Small Business Server, which aims to provide an Open Source alternative to Microsoft Small Business Server. The objective is to provide facilities encompassed by the commercial product using already available software to both Windows and Linux desktops.Perl scripts would be used to configure and install. There is also a need for additional software to compete with MS SBS. One issue I was trying to resolve was easier faxing from a Windows client - possibly using the Windows fax client. Both products would be a compilation of existing projects, installation scripting and updating of HOWTOs. Currently RedHat and Debian distributions are in progress. Please visit (not updated yet) http://www.linuxsoe.com for more details about the desktop project. For future reference the SourceForge project is http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxsoe although it currently has nothing on it. Any questions, suggestions, or recommended links - please let me know. Best regards, -- Stephan Borg LinuxSOE Pty Ltd Phone/Fax: (02) 4754 5036 Email: sb...@li... Web: http://www.linuxsoe.com _______________________________________________ LSSB mailing list LS...@ma... http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-04-05 09:06:08
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Hi, This is perhaps not for this list, but i'm new with cups Searching the archives at www.cups.org i have found one person with the same problem, and there also no anwswer. It seems that that cups is creating a postscript file, and the printer just tread it as a normal text file, so that wy i get all that garbage. But wy is it good whit gimp? I have created a printer with the web interface but with the same results. i have configured cups following the manual and when i print from a program i get always garbage, exept from Gimp. configuration: 1: To my Epson Stylus Color 740 true USB 2: To my Epson Stylus Color 740 true network broadband router (wireless) foomatic-configure -s cups -p 62112 -c file:/dev/usb/lp0 -n Epson-USB -d gimp-print foomatic-configure -s cups -p 62112 -c lpd://192.168.123.254/lp -n Epson -d gimp-print TIA Patrick I'm Gentoo user. -- Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Joe K. <kle...@we...> - 2003-04-03 19:36:25
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On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 14:16, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > I'm looking for 3 programs for Linux: > 1 - a project manager something like mrproject Do you mean MS Project? There is an existing app named mrproject which is a project manager. > 2 - a program to take a screen ofanother linux/Solaris box like > pcanywhere vtc is good for this. > 3 - A diagram program like visio, i know there is dia but ... Can't help there. However you can run Visio on Linux under Crossover Office. -- Farewell neighbor. Thank you for giving us a safe place for so many years. Fred Rodgers - 1928-2003 |
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From: Robert P. J. D. <rp...@mi...> - 2003-04-03 19:25:22
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for 3 programs for Linux: > 1 - a project manager something like mrproject > 2 - a program to take a screen ofanother linux/Solaris box like > pcanywhere have you tried VNC? > 3 - A diagram program like visio, i know there is dia but ... kivio. rday |
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From: Patrick M. <pat...@pa...> - 2003-04-03 19:16:42
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Hi, I'm looking for 3 programs for Linux: 1 - a project manager something like mrproject 2 - a program to take a screen ofanother linux/Solaris box like pcanywhere 3 - A diagram program like visio, i know there is dia but ... TIA Patrick -- Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org |
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From: Joe K. <kle...@we...> - 2003-03-21 16:58:24
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This is an excellent article published on the Linux Journal website. It's got some good information on one companies migration to Linux desktops. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6705&mode=thread&order=0 -- Farewell neighbor. Thank you for giving us a safe place for so many years. Fred Rodgers - 1928-2003 |
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From: Robert P. J. D. <rp...@mi...> - 2003-03-06 12:13:38
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(something i posted to the local LUG here, any comments on it? yes, i know you've seen something like this before, but i just want to make darned sure i understand it before i start working with a number of java-based XML programs.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 06:58:01 -0500 (EST) From: Robert P. J. Day <rp...@mi...> To: KWLUG discussion list <kwl...@kw...> Subject: just wanting to be absolutely sure about java under linux never having spent a *lot* of time programming in java under linux, i wanted to clarify everything involving java installation and configuration. as an example, i'll discuss setting up sun's latest j2sdk under red hat 8.0. first, downloading (from java.sun.com) sun's jdk and installing it creates a hierarchy under /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1, with some of the more important directories: /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1/ bin/ # (java, javac, etc) jre/lib/ # bootstrap classes ext/ # extension classes endorsed/ # endorsed classes there's more, but this is all i care about for now. (is the terminology above correct with respect to directory contents?) so, first, one obviously adds /usr/java/k2sdk1.4.1 to PATH. next queestion, which is technically the java "home" directory? that is, that one would assign to the variable JAVA_HOME that i've seen in use? i've seen conflicting answers, but it seems that /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1/jre would be considered the home directory, no? the classpath --- --------- as i read it, the java programs *automatically* will look for classes in the bootstrap classes and the extension classes to start, before the CLASSPATH even comes into play, correct? as i read it, the interpreter search order is: 1) bootstrap classes 2) extension classes 3) user-defined classes, defined in a number of ways again, as i read it, if the CLASSPATH variable is not set, a default of "." is used so that, if you're compiling isolated programs in the current directory, you don't need to do *anything* with CLASSPATH, right? if, however, you want to use CLASSPATH, you would have to *explicitly* add "." for the current directory as one of the entries. is that correct? (that is, once CLASSPATH is defined. "." is no longer automatically on the class search path -- you have to supply that yourself.) also, the CLASSPATH entries can refer to one of three things: 1) the full names of .jar files you want to use 2) the full names of .zip files 3) *directories* which contain individual .class files the extension directory --- --------- --------- more than one person suggested to me that, rather than keep CLASSPATH up to date, you can just toss entire .jar or .zip files into the java extension directory, /usr/java/k2sdk1.4.1/jre/lib/ext (if you have the privilege), where they will be found automatically. apart from this being potentially messy, is there anything technically wrong with this approach? that is, does it have the same effect as working with CLASSPATH? or is there some subtle difference that i should know about? the endorsed classes --- -------- ------- finally, at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/standards, you can read about the endorsed standards override mechanism, which allows you to override only *specific* standards, by adding .jar files to the endorsed directory. (i note that this says that these should be specifically .jar files, not .zip files. anyone know whether .zip files are also supported? not that it's a big deal.) that section also emphasizes which directory is considered to be the official java *home* directory, in case i needed any supporting evidence. so ... have i missed anything? is this a reasonably comprehensive description about how the java environment works in linux? rday |
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From: Robert P. J. D. <rp...@mi...> - 2003-03-02 16:31:00
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it's been a long week, so i'm not sure if i already sent this out to interested readers, but here's the (not-quite done) working environment for writing stuff in pidgin docbook. if you want to see it work, just start with "make html" to see the resultig chunked html pages in the "html" directory. and, no, you don't need to know emacs to do this. i just use emacs to be able to write in outline form and abbreviate keystrokes, but you can use any editor you want to create the input file that looks like "sample.pdg". more later as i make additional improvements. rday p.s. by the way, the sample.pdg file shows you the most common docbook elements you'll probably ever use, and what they look like after being rendered into HTML. |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2003-02-27 02:24:48
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"M. Fioretti" wrote: > Maybe not for Free SW itself, and for the actual developer who > released under GPL, but what about packagers? If I *buy* a boxed set > from Red Hat, Mandrake, whoever, can *they* be sued if something in > that box reformats the hard disk? I 've been asked a similar question > in the office: > Still, what is the correct answer? IANAL, but a seller is only responsible for what he produces. So someone who sells a Linux distro is responsible for the distro, not it's software (except the self-created software). Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2003-02-27 02:24:39
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"Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > has anyone tested it? written a trivial doc with it? > any bugs i should know about? Well, I managed to unpack it and read the readme... I wish I had the time! Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
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From: Joe K. <kle...@we...> - 2003-02-26 22:44:22
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On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 00:13, M. Fioretti wrote:
> Maybe not for Free SW itself, and for the actual developer who
> released under GPL, but what about packagers? If I *buy* a boxed set
> from Red Hat, Mandrake, whoever, can *they* be sued if something in that
> box reformats the hard disk? I 've been asked a similar question in
> the office: I got away saying:
>
> 1) Yeah, just as you could with MS, and with the same probability of
> success
> 2) This is what backups are for, right?
> 3) (Dilbertish) We aren't doing anything meaningful anyway, why
> bother? The world might even be a better place *without* our
> product...
>
> Still, what is the correct answer?
From what little info I have gotten the actual answer is very close to
#1. If you read the licenses for 99.9% of the software (and most other
incorporeal "products") it says that there is no guarantee for any
fitness of usability or merchantability. They also wave any damage that
the software might cause either accidentally or intentionally.
--
"It's time to KISS your BOT goodBYYYYYYEEEEEE!!!!!"
-- Metabee, 'Medabots'
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From: Joe K. <kle...@we...> - 2003-02-26 22:32:02
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On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 18:32, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> has anyone tested it? written a trivial doc with it?
> any bugs i should know about?
I'd love to but I am so completely unable to use emacs it's not even
funny.
--
"It's time to KISS your BOT goodBYYYYYYEEEEEE!!!!!"
-- Metabee, 'Medabots'
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From: M. F. <m.f...@in...> - 2003-02-26 05:02:15
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On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 02:49:29 at 02:49:29AM +0100, Martin Stricker (sh...@gm...) wrote: > > Did you ever see a *manager* read an EULA? ;=D BTW, depending on local > laws, this EULA statement can be invalid. In certain circumstances in > Germany the user *can* sue - but only if s/he *bought* the software, > hence no danger for free software. > Maybe not for Free SW itself, and for the actual developer who released under GPL, but what about packagers? If I *buy* a boxed set from Red Hat, Mandrake, whoever, can *they* be sued if something in that box reformats the hard disk? I 've been asked a similar question in the office: I got away saying: 1) Yeah, just as you could with MS, and with the same probability of success 2) This is what backups are for, right? 3) (Dilbertish) We aren't doing anything meaningful anyway, why bother? The world might even be a better place *without* our product... Still, what is the correct answer? Marco Fioretti -- Marco Fioretti m.fioretti, at the server inwind.it Red Hat for low memory http://www.rule-project.org/en/ Preserve the old, but know the new. |
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From: Martin S. <sh...@gm...> - 2003-02-26 01:49:48
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Joe Klemmer wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 21:22, Martin Stricker wrote: > > > Well, that's one of these manager things: They don't really know > > what they're doing, so they think "If it's expensive it must be > > good!" Furthermore they like to have someone they could sue if > > anything goes wrong... > > Even though the EULA always states that the user CAN NOT SUE. Did you ever see a *manager* read an EULA? ;=D BTW, depending on local laws, this EULA statement can be invalid. In certain circumstances in Germany the user *can* sue - but only if s/he *bought* the software, hence no danger for free software. Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 7.3 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ |
