linux-apus-user

Amiga&DebianPPC

[Pietro L. <le...@di...>]

Hallo, I found the 3.0 of DebianPPC, is it usable on my Amiga?
Another question about the use of the boostrap program, it starts loading
the kernel, but after a while it tells me that the kernel image is too
big. I found the Debian installation instructions, but I don't understand
something: after the bootstrap how I can install Debian? I can launch the
installation program on the debian cd?

Thanks, Pietro.
--
ICQ: 113394011, Il FeSToso: 88, Linux User: 205301

I will build myself a copper tower
With four ways out and no way in
But mine the glory, mine the power
(So I chose Amiga)

Re: Problem with keyboard layout

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> It seems that I currently have a wrong keylayout.
> My shift keys don't work, and the alt key get
> treated like they were the shift keys. The
> control key doesn't work either, so I can't switch
> from X to a text terminal.
> 
> It's a file which haveto be modified to fix this,
> but where is this file? Is it my XF86Config which
> needs to be adjusted, perhaps?

oh please!!

this has a clear and simple answer in the FAQ on the 
Linux-APUS site.

http://linux-apus.sourceforge.net/FAQ.html

sometimes I wonder why I bother....

Alan

PS If other folks have infos etc for the FAQ then
PLEASE contact me...we'll get things sorted out

Problem with keyboard layout

[Björn J. <kh...@te...>]

Hi!

It seems that I currently have a wrong keylayout.
My shift keys don't work, and the alt key get
treated like they were the shift keys. The
control key doesn't work either, so I can't switch
from X to a text terminal.

It's a file which haveto be modified to fix this,
but where is this file? Is it my XF86Config which
needs to be adjusted, perhaps?

I have a A2000 keyboard attached to my A4000Desktop.


-- 

Bj=F6rn Johansson "Debian rocks!!"

newbie questions

[Limer <ls...@ma...>]

Hi all,
I am new to linux and successfully installed linuxppc1999 (with force and
pain) on my A1200PPC240/060+Bvisionppc. XFree does not work yet since I am
missing a config file for my permedia2.
Here are my questions :
How to make my scsi cdrom burner recognized ? if I mount the dev cdrom, I
get the IDE one.
Is yellow dog linux working on PPC amiga (just put my hand on it, from a
cover magazine) ?
How to mount a zip drive using the vario board ?
Where to get a Xfree config file for permedia2 ?
The kernel I use is 2.2.10 (vmapus2000518.lha) and so far the 2.4.4 and
2.4.9 do not work.
Regards
Lio

Re: Installing new software

[John L. <lor...@uk...>]

Hi there

On 04-Nov-02, Alan Buxey wrote:


> for what its worth....i've just installed Debian 3.0 on my 060/603e
> BlizzardPPC/BVision and X worked almost out of the box!

Was that from cd's that you bought, or from ISO images d/loaded and
burned by you? And how is it going now, stable?

Regards
-- 
John

Chaos often breeds life where order breeds habit

mailto:ch...@la... or mailto:lor...@uk...
http://www.lordofchaos.co.uk ICQ 110130385 
Nick = Chaos A1200 BlizzardPPC 240mhz 060/50 BlizzardVision OS3.9

Re: I need a better kernel

[Michel <mi...@da...>]

On Don, 2002-11-07 at 13:06, Bj=F6rn Johansson wrote:=20
>=20
> There is no joystick support in the 2.4.18-apus
> kernel currently

IIRC Amiga joystick support doesn't build in current 2.4 kernels.

> and ppp still don't work :(.

I very much doubt this is a kernel issue. Have you read documentation,
run pppd with the debug option, ... ?


--=20
Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: XFConfig file

[Andreas <an...@po...>]

Hi

Am 01-Nov-02 schriebst Du:
> Hello Bj=F6rn
>=20
> Am 01-Nov-02 schrieb Bj=F6rn Johansson:
>=20
> [ snip ]
>=20
>> Hi again!
>>=20
>> I've tried your XF86Config file and it still gives me problems.
>> I have attached the latest log file to this mail, please have a
>> look at it.
>=20
>> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/amigamouse
>>     No such file or directory.
>> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
>> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
>> (II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
>> (WW) No core pointer registered
>=20
> # cd /dev/input
> # mknod amigamouse c 10 4
>=20
> Sorry, I forgot, you have to create it first. It's not generated
> automatically during installation, maybe I should file a
> bug?

A correction to that: please don't do it the way I mentioned above, no ne=
ed to
produce redundancy. Just alter your config to point to /dev/amigamouse wh=
ich
already exists.. Sorry for that!!

--=20
Best wishes,
Andi

Re: I need a better kernel

[Andreas <an...@po...>]

Hello Bj=F6rn

Am 07-Nov-02 schrieb Bj=F6rn Johansson:

> Hi!
>=20
> There is no joystick support in the 2.4.18-apus
> kernel currently and ppp still don't work :(.
> I wish I could compile my own kernel, but since
> none of the cvs programs for AmigaOS worked for
> me, this isn't possible.
>=20
> So, when there is a kernel available which has
> joystick support and working ppp, send a mail
> and notify me so I can test this kernel.

This should be quite a trivial task. Just download the following files on=
 the
AmigaOS side with the browser of your choice:

kernel source:

    http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.4.18/

download kernel.source-2.4.18_2.4.18-5_all.deb (22.8MB) or
kernel-source-2.4.18_2.4.18.orig.tar.gz (28.4MB)

(I am not sure which of them,
maybe someone more experienced may comment on this)


kernel patch:

    http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-patch-2.4.18-apus/

download kernel-patch-2.4.18-apus_2.4.18-3_powerpc.deb (338KB)

and copy it to your exchange partition. In Debian, copy them to your debi=
an
partition and install them (hoping the affs driver will not fsck your dat=
a,
but it seems to be pretty stable also with big files).

Additionally you need certain tools to build kernels the Debian Way(tm), =
but
this isn't a problem as you should have the Woody CD's IIRC (oh btw, if y=
ou
want to build a 2.4.17 kernel, no need to download anything, just search =
your
CD's for kernel-source and kernel-package with aptitude or apt). Consult =
one
of the many good HOWTO and FAQs how to compile a kernel on a debian syste=
m
(at the end of the build process, you will have a complete debian package=
 with
your kernel, ready for system compliant installation!). Before building, =
just
apply the debian specific patches you've donwloand with the second packag=
e to
the kernel source, then start building.

For basic configuration of your kernel you may take a look at the kernel
config of your currently installed kernel, or copy it over the config of =
the
new kernel, so you have some starting point.

Well, it may take a while till it's finished, but it seems to be worth th=
e
trouble if you desperately need the functionality you're talking about.

--=20
Best wishes,
Andi

I need a better kernel

[Björn J. <kh...@te...>]

Hi!

There is no joystick support in the 2.4.18-apus
kernel currently and ppp still don't work :(.
I wish I could compile my own kernel, but since
none of the cvs programs for AmigaOS worked for
me, this isn't possible.

So, when there is a kernel available which has
joystick support and working ppp, send a mail
and notify me so I can test this kernel.



-- 

Bj=F6rn Johansson "Debian rocks!!"

Re: Installing new software

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

> How can I use the updated versions of say gimp, mozilla apache etc without the need to update X.
> I will come back to the problem with X later but at the moment I would just like to use the other updated packages.
> Is this possible and if so how?
> Any help will be great.

i'd suggest ..if X isnt working at all....to remove it with APT
and then do the upgrades as normal (apt-get update wont
update X then as its not installed)

then install/upgrade X when you feel like it..... but tools that you mention
NEED X - thats why they're trying to update it too!

why doesnt X run? what problem are you having....we have a lot of peopel with X issues
so could you send the output of your 'startx'?

for what its worth....i've just installed Debian 3.0 on my 060/603e
BlizzardPPC/BVision and X worked almost out of the box!

alan

Installing new software

[David J. <jo...@co...>]

Hi,
I am running Debian Potato with XFree86 3. I have a full woody set of CD's but am unable to get XFree86 4 to work at all. Unfortunately, I can't use
any of the other software on the woody cds because the system always wants to upgrade everything including X, which then won't work.
How can I use the updated versions of say gimp, mozilla apache etc without the need to update X.
I will come back to the problem with X later but at the moment I would just like to use the other updated packages.
Is this possible and if so how?
Any help will be great.

Regards,

Dave

 ( jo...@co... )

Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure.
-- Ambrose Bierce

Re: XFConfig file

[Andreas <an...@po...>]

Hello Bj=F6rn

Am 01-Nov-02 schrieb Bj=F6rn Johansson:

[ snip ]

> Hi again!
>=20
> I've tried your XF86Config file and it still gives me problems.
> I have attached the latest log file to this mail, please have a
> look at it.

> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/amigamouse
>     No such file or directory.
> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
> (II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
> (WW) No core pointer registered

# cd /dev/input
# mknod amigamouse c 10 4

Sorry, I forgot, you have to create it first. It's not generated
automatically during installation, maybe I should file a
bug?


--=20
Best wishes,
Andi

Re: XFConfig file

[J. <kh...@te...>]

Hello Andreas

On 01-Nov-02, you wrote:

> Hello Bj=F6rn
>=20
> Am 01-Nov-02 schrieb Bj=F6rn Johansson:
>=20
>> Hello Michel
>>=20
>> On 01-Nov-02, you wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Fre, 2002-11-01 at 07:48, Bj=F6rn Johansson wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> (II) S3VIRGE: driver (version 1.6.13) for S3 ViRGE chipsets: virge,
>>>> 86C325,
>>>>     virge vx, 86C988, virge dx, virge gx, 86C375, 86C385, virge gx2,
>>>>     86C357, virge mx, 86C260, virge mx+, 86C280, trio 3d, 86C365,
>>>>     trio 3d/2x, 86C362, 86C368
>>>>     S3VProbe begin
>>>> (EE) No devices detected.
>=20
> Using S3 Virge with a Permedia II based card? I'm a bit puzzled.. Shoul=
d
> this really work??
>=20
>>>> Fatal server error:
>>>> no screens found
>>>=20
>>> Why are you trying to use the s3virge driver, when all the sample
>>> XF86Config files say glint?
>>>=20
>>=20
>> I thought that maybe the CybervisionPPC had support for this,
>> but I guess it hasn't. Anyway, glint doesn't work either.
>> Could it be that I've missed a package when I installed the
>> X-server, perhaps?
>=20
> Why does glint not work? Are you getting any error messages? But, anywa=
y,
> it is known that glint doesn't work flawlessly with the CybervisionPPC.
> Use following setup
>=20
> Section "Device"
>    Identifier    "Generic Video Card"
>    Driver        "fbdev"
>    Option        "NoInt10"
> EndSection
>=20
> If it then finds a device but still doesn't start up, you have to creat=
e
> your own mode lines using fbset. For a 17" monitor it could look like t=
his
>=20
> Section "Monitor"
>    Identifier    "Generic Monitor"
>    HorizSync    30-65
>    VertRefresh    50-90
>    Option        "DPMS"
>=20
>    Mode "1024x768"
>        # D: 78.933 MHz, H: 60.162 kHz, V: 75.203 Hz
>        DotClock 78.934
>        HTimings 1024 1040 1136 1312
>        VTimings 768 769 772 800
>        Flags    "+HSync" "+VSync"
>    EndMode
> EndSection
>=20
> You may compare you're current XF86Config with the attached XF86Config
> which should work for a CybervisionPPC (at least it worked on my machin=
e,
> and still works..).
>=20
> But you don't need most of the "Module" mumbo-jumbo, so go and comment =
it
> out (well, not everything of course, you have to consult some kind of
> documentation..).
>=20
>=20

Hi again!

I've tried your XF86Config file and it still gives me problems.
I have attached the latest log file to this mail, please have a
look at it.

--=20
Kind regards  Bj=F6rn Johansson

http://w1.173.telia.com/~u17308024

Re: XFConfig file

[Andreas <an...@po...>]

Hello Bj=F6rn

Am 01-Nov-02 schrieb Bj=F6rn Johansson:

> Hello Michel
>=20
> On 01-Nov-02, you wrote:
>=20
>> On Fre, 2002-11-01 at 07:48, Bj=F6rn Johansson wrote:
>>=20
>>> (II) S3VIRGE: driver (version 1.6.13) for S3 ViRGE chipsets: virge,
>>> 86C325,
>>>     virge vx, 86C988, virge dx, virge gx, 86C375, 86C385, virge gx2,
>>>     86C357, virge mx, 86C260, virge mx+, 86C280, trio 3d, 86C365,
>>>     trio 3d/2x, 86C362, 86C368
>>>     S3VProbe begin
>>> (EE) No devices detected.

Using S3 Virge with a Permedia II based card? I'm a bit puzzled.. Should =
this
really work??

>>> Fatal server error:
>>> no screens found
>>=20
>> Why are you trying to use the s3virge driver, when all the sample
>> XF86Config files say glint?
>>=20
>=20
> I thought that maybe the CybervisionPPC had support for this,
> but I guess it hasn't. Anyway, glint doesn't work either.
> Could it be that I've missed a package when I installed the
> X-server, perhaps?

Why does glint not work? Are you getting any error messages? But, anyway,=
 it
is known that glint doesn't work flawlessly with the CybervisionPPC. Use
following setup

Section "Device"
    Identifier    "Generic Video Card"
    Driver        "fbdev"
    Option        "NoInt10"
EndSection

If it then finds a device but still doesn't start up, you have to create =
your
own mode lines using fbset. For a 17" monitor it could look like this

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier    "Generic Monitor"
    HorizSync    30-65
    VertRefresh    50-90
    Option        "DPMS"

    Mode "1024x768"
        # D: 78.933 MHz, H: 60.162 kHz, V: 75.203 Hz
        DotClock 78.934
        HTimings 1024 1040 1136 1312
        VTimings 768 769 772 800
        Flags    "+HSync" "+VSync"
    EndMode
EndSection

You may compare you're current XF86Config with the attached XF86Config wh=
ich
should work for a CybervisionPPC (at least it worked on my machine, and s=
till
works..).

But you don't need most of the "Module" mumbo-jumbo, so go and comment it=
 out
(well, not everything of course, you have to consult some kind of
documentation..).


--=20
Best wishes,
Andi

Re: XFConfig file

[J. <kh...@te...>]

Hello Michel

On 01-Nov-02, you wrote:

> On Fre, 2002-11-01 at 07:48, Bj=F6rn Johansson wrote:
>=20
>> (II) S3VIRGE: driver (version 1.6.13) for S3 ViRGE chipsets: virge,
>> 86C325,
>>     virge vx, 86C988, virge dx, virge gx, 86C375, 86C385, virge gx2,
>>     86C357, virge mx, 86C260, virge mx+, 86C280, trio 3d, 86C365,
>>     trio 3d/2x, 86C362, 86C368
>>     S3VProbe begin
>> (EE) No devices detected.
>>=20
>> Fatal server error:
>> no screens found
>=20
> Why are you trying to use the s3virge driver, when all the sample
> XF86Config files say glint?
>=20
>=20

I thought that maybe the CybervisionPPC had support for this,
but I guess it hasn't. Anyway, glint doesn't work either.
Could it be that I've missed a package when I installed the
X-server, perhaps?

--=20
Kind regards  Bj=F6rn Johansson

Debian rocks!!

Re: XFConfig file

[Michel <mi...@da...>]

On Fre, 2002-11-01 at 07:48, Bj=F6rn Johansson wrote:

> (II) S3VIRGE: driver (version 1.6.13) for S3 ViRGE chipsets: virge, 86C32=
5,
> 	virge vx, 86C988, virge dx, virge gx, 86C375, 86C385, virge gx2,
> 	86C357, virge mx, 86C260, virge mx+, 86C280, trio 3d, 86C365,
> 	trio 3d/2x, 86C362, 86C368
> 	S3VProbe begin
> (EE) No devices detected.
>=20
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found

Why are you trying to use the s3virge driver, when all the sample
XF86Config files say glint?


--=20
Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: XFConfig file

[J. <kh...@te...>]

Hello Andreas

On 31-Oct-02, you wrote:

> Hello Bj=F6rn
>=20
> Am 31-Okt-02 schrieb Bj=F6rn Johansson:
>=20
>> Hi!
>>=20
>> I want a new XF86Config file. If somebody on this list have it, mail i=
t
>> to me, please. It should work with a CybervisionPPC together with
>> Debian3.0.
>=20
> Might
>=20
>    http://linux-apus.sourceforge.net/contrib/
>=20
> be what you're looking for?
>=20
> Sidenote: XF86Config files are quite custom, i.e. depending on which
> keyboard layout you're using, which resolutions your display supports
> etc., so a foreign config can only be an outline how to configure it fo=
r
> yourself.
>=20
> If you're not satisfied with what you find on the above mentioned link,
> feel free to contact us again.
>=20

I tried this file yesterday and set the logfile to Alan Buxley.
I also tried to make my own XF86Config file but it gave
me the same result:

No screens available
(and a lot more output of course...)

--=20
Kind regards  Bj=F6rn Johansson

http://w1.173.telia.com/~u17308024

Re: XFConfig file

[Andreas <an...@po...>]

Hello Bj=F6rn

Am 31-Okt-02 schrieb Bj=F6rn Johansson:
=20
> Hi!
>=20
> I want a new XF86Config file. If somebody on this list have it, mail it=
 to
> me, please. It should work with a CybervisionPPC together with
> Debian3.0.

Might

    http://linux-apus.sourceforge.net/contrib/

be what you're looking for?

Sidenote: XF86Config files are quite custom, i.e. depending on which keyb=
oard
layout you're using, which resolutions your display supports etc., so a
foreign config can only be an outline how to configure it for yourself.

If you're not satisfied with what you find on the above mentioned link, f=
eel
free to contact us again.

--=20
Best wishes,
Andi

XFConfig file

[J. <kh...@te...>]

Hi!

I want a new XF86Config file. If somebody on this list have it, mail it t=
o
me, please. It should work with a CybervisionPPC together with
Debian3.0.

--=20
Kind regards  Bj=F6rn Johansson

http://w1.173.telia.com/~u17308024

ppp support

[J. <kh...@te...>]

Hi!

I was wondering what has happened to the development of my ppp problem. As
you might remember I have been unable to connect to the internet with
Debian3.0 and as someone mentioned this could be due to a software problem
or it could be a hardware problem but I hope not.

When will a newer kernel be released? Currently I'm using 2.4.18-apus kernel
and I have managed to get sound working a while ago, but the graphics
doesn't work yet. I should have a CybervisionPPC connected by the end of
next week if nothing goes wrong, then I will hopefully get some graphics
too =).

Please, have anyone successfully got internet access working with this
kernel?

Re: 2.4.18-2 kernal

[David J. <jo...@co...>]

Hi Alan,
On 15-Oct-02, you wrote:
> I have problems booting the 2.4.18-2 kernal.
> It fails at a point when it probes for ide stuff. Is there a solution 
#>the latest CVS version has a fix for this - that needs a couple >more people to verify. #

Where can I get this latest CVS version so that I can give it a try.
Regards,

Dave

 ( jo...@co... )

Money is truthful. If a man speaks of his honour, make him pay cash.
-- Unknown

Re: Booting Apus

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> > linux.bin is the root-disk, not the kernel....
> 
> That's just plain wrong.

sorry, saw the .bin part and got confused - of course its  root.bin
i was thinking of

alan

Re: Linux-APUS-user digest, Vol 1 #652 - 2 msgs

[Paul W. M. <pau...@nt...>]

Hello Bj=F6rn

On 15-Oct-02, you wrote:


> =

> Have you updated your flash rom?
> If so, do you have the latest version installed?
> Your config says you're using kickstart3.9, hmm.
> I was only aware of 3.1 kickroms, is it a soft kick
> or is it really new hardware?
> =

 =

My Flash rom is the latest as far as I know xxxx01 (the one with pci, not=

that I have pci)

The config is from WhichAmiga (by Piru, the same author as blizkick), it
reports 3.5, 3.9 etc if found after setpatch or Blizkick softkicks the ro=
m
updates.

Regards

Paul
-- =

Evaluating system...
Central Processing Unit: MC68060 49.9 MHz (rev 1)
  1 WarpUP Processor(s): PPC 604e 200 MHz (rev 2.4), 66 MHz busclock
    Floating Point Unit: 68060fpu 49.9 MHz
 Memory Management Unit: 68060mmu running
   Custom graphics chip: AGA Lisa 4203 (rev 0)
  Custom animation chip: AGA PAL Alice 8374 2M (rev 3-4)
   Other custom chip(s): Paula 8364 (rev 0), Ramsey (rev 15), Gary (rev 0=
)
        Graphics system: Picasso96
      Graphics board(s): Picasso IV [Paloma Concierto]
           Soundcard(s): Concierto
         Hardware Clock: clock + battmem found, sunday 21-apr-2002 18:38:=
28
 Max. Chipmem available: 2048 K
 Max. Fastmem available: 130048 K
       ROM chip version: 45.20 (Kickstart 3.9)
      Workbench version: 45.3 (Workbench 3.9)
       SetPatch version: 44.38
     Expansion board(s):
5001/6: individual Computers/VMC HyperCOM Z4 (@$00E90000 64k)
4626/23: individual Computers X-Surf (@$00EA0000 64k)
2167/24: Village Tronic Picasso IV (@$40000000 32M)
8512/100: Phase 5 Digital Products CyberStorm PPC/MK III SCSI (@$00F01060=

128k)
Cyberstorm PPC serial #: DCC0270

 Your computer is an Amiga 4000 Tower.=

Re: Booting Apus

[Michel <mi...@da...>]

On Die, 2002-10-15 at 20:22, Alan Buxey wrote:
>=20
> > woody). I get an error message that linux.bin is too big to uncompress,
> > but I haven't had any time to test things out further. I know though th=
at
> > linux.bin is compressed with gzip. Maybe you can test uncompressing it =
and
> > report if it works better :)
>=20
> linux.bin is the root-disk, not the kernel....

That's just plain wrong.

> so you need to make sure you have
>=20
> 1) latest bootstrap from APUS site

That's true.

> 2) latest kernel from APUS site

That's a good idea.


--=20
Earthling Michel D=E4nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: 2.4.18-2 kernal

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> I have problems booting the 2.4.18-2 kernal.
> It fails at a point when it probes for ide stuff. Is there a solution to this problem being worked on for us A1200 users?
> Does this problem occur with different ide doublers. I use one from powercomputing. 

the latest CVS version has a fix for this - that needs a couple more people
to verify.  my Amiga HD died a couple of weeks back and i've only
just got a running system together... THEN i forgot to have an FFS
partition to send files back from Linux into AmigaOS world ! duh!

i've told this information a few times now...beginning to sound
like some stuck vinyl record

alan