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From: <bc...@wo...> - 2001-06-11 19:23:53
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[Carlos Quiroz] >Hi all > >I'm embedding the jython interpreter into jEdit as a plugin (BTW I think >this offer jython users a basic IDE with superb editing capabilities, >and I recommend it strongly) > >My issue now is however as follows: > >It could be easier for jEdit users if jython could be bundled with the >plugin. So it comes two questions: > >1. Is this acceptable by the jython license I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't be acceptable. While jython is covered by a whole lot of licanses, they are all fully open source. >2. How could this be done. Carrying the installer and just installing it >or making a custom installation... That is up to you and your requirements. You are also free to just include the jython.jar and some/all of the Lib directory. If you decide to bundle jython.jar directly, you should comply with the licenses by also including the all LICENSE*.* files you can find in the jython distribution. regards, finn |
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From: Robert W. B. <rb...@di...> - 2001-06-11 17:32:04
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Hello all,
Forgive the cross-post. The discussion concerning documenting
Jython migrated to jython-dev, but I feared someone interested in
documentation might be missed there. I'll stick to jython-devel in
the future.
1. I've added a wicki page for 'in-development' Jython
documentation at:
http://www.jython.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/JythonDevelDocs
2. Fred Drake peeked into his crystal ball and says XML could be
in the Python docs future, but not the immediate future. This
gives credence to 'stick to the wiki for now' plan.
3. The outline is paraphrased from what was originally posted on
this list. It's been reorganized a bit, and had some notes added.
The outline seems due for some fresh eyes.
-Robert
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From: Robert W. B. <rb...@di...> - 2001-06-11 15:54:22
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Laurent TCHERNIACK wrote: > Hello, > > Just arriving into the Jython tools, after some experience with Python 2.0. > I started with success developing some examples in Jython using import > java.util etc.., and now I am trying to import my own java package > com.gemplus.softproduction. ... etc into the jython sources but I > received the following message: > "ImportError: No module named gemplus" > > So my question, how can I give to jython visibility to my > softproduction.jar package in order to be able to use the import > com.gemplus.softproduction of my java classes in the jython sources? Place softproduction.jar in the classpath before starting Jython: $bash} export CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/path/to/softproduction.jar $bash} jython ... >>> from com.gemplus import softproduction >>> OR C:\> set CLASSPATH=%CLASSPATH%;c:\path\to\softproduction.jar c:\> jython ... >>> from com.gemplus import softproduction >>> You can also modify the jython startup script to include that jar in java.class.path (-cp). I know the examples aren't neccessary, but some disbelieve how easy it is. If things aren't as simple as above, check back. Robert |
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From: Laurent T. <Lau...@ge...> - 2001-06-11 15:06:15
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Hello, Just arriving into the Jython tools, after some experience with Python 2.0. I started with success developing some examples in Jython using import java.util etc.., and now I am trying to import my own java package com.gemplus.softproduction. ... etc into the jython sources but I received the following message: "ImportError: No module named gemplus" So my question, how can I give to jython visibility to my softproduction.jar package in order to be able to use the import com.gemplus.softproduction of my java classes in the jython sources ? Thanks in advance, Laurent ------------------------------------ Laurent TCHERNIACK Indus. Manager GEMPLUS Software - Application lau...@ge... Tel: 04 42 36 66 72 ------------------------------------ |
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From: Carlos Q. <car...@rt...> - 2001-06-11 11:42:10
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Hi all I'm embedding the jython interpreter into jEdit as a plugin (BTW I think this offer jython users a basic IDE with superb editing capabilities, and I recommend it strongly) My issue now is however as follows: It could be easier for jEdit users if jython could be bundled with the plugin. So it comes two questions: 1. Is this acceptable by the jython license 2. How could this be done. Carrying the installer and just installing it or making a custom installation... Any suggestion will be appreciated Carlos Quiroz Software Engineer |
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From: <jea...@fr...> - 2001-06-10 16:13:46
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After run Jython by typing under dos session jython, I have the error = message :=20 Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : = org/python/util/jython With the configuration under Windows 98 : -- jyton.bat -- echo off rem This file generated by Jython installer rem Created on XXX by Standard rem rem set JAVA_HOME=3DC:\Program Files\JavaSoft\JRE\1.3.0_02 "C:\Program Files\JavaSoft\JRE\1.3.0_02\bin\java.exe" = "-Dpython.home=3DC:\Outils\JPython\jython21\Jython-2.1" -classpath = "C:\Outils\JPython\jython21\Jython-2.1\jython.jar;%CLASSPATH%" = org.python.util.jython %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 -- autoexec.bat --=20 SET = PATH=3DC:\Outils\Perl\bin\;c:\OUTILS\OCAML3.01\bin;C:\PROGRA~1\ULTRAE~1\;= C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1\OFFICE;%PATH% SET PATH=3DC:\Outils\Python\ActivePython21\;%PATH% SET = PATH=3DC:\Outils\SmallEiffel\elj-win32\SmallEiffel\bin;C:\Outils\SmallEif= fel\elj-win32\lcc\bin;%PATH% REM [Ocaml] set CAMLLIB=3Dc:\OUTILS\OCAML3.01\lib REM [Jpython] set CLASSPATH=3D.;C:\Outils\JPython\Jython-2.1 REM [SmallEiffel] set = SmallEiffel=3DC:\Outils\SmallEiffel\elj-win32\SmallEiffel\sys\system.se set GOBO=3DC:\Outils\SmallEiffel\elj-win32\epan\gobo=20 Thanks. |
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From: <me...@he...> - 2001-06-10 09:42:54
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Hi, I took the plunge and responded to this offer. If you're interested in doing the same then read on. If you decide to try the program through me, I will send you a web address where you can chart my progress in the program. With that said... Read on ! PS. I make no promises of success, I'm just offering you the opportunity to get involved. I will post my success on the aformentioned web site. You can earn $50,000 or more in the next 90 days sending e-mail. Seem impossible? Read on for details; is there a catch; NO, there is no catch, just send your emails and be on your way to financial freedom. "HERE IT IS BELOW" ================================================ *** Print This Now For Future Reference *** The following income opportunity is one you may be interested in taking a look at. 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From: <no...@so...> - 2001-06-08 16:52:33
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Patches item #431224, was updated on 2001-06-07 13:27 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=312867&aid=431224&group_id=12867 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Samuele Pedroni (pedronis) >Assigned to: Samuele Pedroni (pedronis) Summary: possible fix for #222819 Initial Comment: This is a patch that seems to solve #222819 Multi-level Java method overriding fails while keeping #231507 stack overflow for simple class #406193 stack overflow when delegating closed and http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/7018/0/56 85848 working. Note: only interpreter part (not jythonc). PS: It's a hack, I know. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Finn Bock (bckfnn) Date: 2001-06-08 09:52 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=4201 Looks good. Please commit it but keep #222819 open until we have a fix for jythonc as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=312867&aid=431224&group_id=12867 |
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From: Robert W. B. <rb...@di...> - 2001-06-07 20:56:14
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Samuele Pedroni wrote: > Hi. > > > > > -> I'm not convinced there's a better, stable, cross-platform > > -> answer out there today, but probably *soon* there will be > > -> a stable enough xml-based system (that can even generate > > -> the old latex if needs be). There are such systems today, > > -> but I don't think they fit all of the criteria one might > > -> want: () > > > > What about DocBook? I've heard good things about it, although I've not > > gotten around to using it personally. > > > If I remember well, using DocBook is an idea that is haunting around also > for CPython doc but refrained for the moment because of > stable, usable, cross-platform, free issues for tools. Mats suggestion motivated me to dive into docbook this afternoon. I had terrific luck, especially with Cees de Groot's Python package "SGML-lite"- http://sourceforge.net/projects/sgmltools-lite/ There's also quite a few editors and editor modes that should accomodate most people. > For the moment, in order to get started and gather things the wiki should > be ok. Agreed. Spread the word, "Go fill the wiki!" When some sizable content collects in the wiki, I'll plug it into docbook and see what people think. > I think that asking directly on doc-sig list or to Fred Drake on the format, > tools issue in relation with CPython doc and its future would be very useful. Good idea. Will do > A marginal note: latex, tex exists and works under win but for the other > tools I don't know either. > > regards, Samuele Pedroni. rb |
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From: Samuele P. <pe...@in...> - 2001-06-07 20:52:25
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Hi. I have just posted a patch to SF: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=431224&group_id=12867&a tid=312867 that seems to solve #222819, while keeping #231507, #406193 closed and http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/7018/0/5685848 working. It is only the interpreter part (not jythonc). I have not really tested it with lots of code <wink>. regards, Samuele Pedroni. PS: It's somehow an hack but if it works, in any case there will be better/forced time to change PyReflectedFunction related stuff (probably 2.2). PS for Finn: do you get my personal mails to your address bc...@wo...? or there's a problem... |
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From: <no...@so...> - 2001-06-07 20:27:21
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Patches item #431224, was updated on 2001-06-07 13:27 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=312867&aid=431224&group_id=12867 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Samuele Pedroni (pedronis) Assigned to: Finn Bock (bckfnn) Summary: possible fix for #222819 Initial Comment: This is a patch that seems to solve #222819 Multi-level Java method overriding fails while keeping #231507 stack overflow for simple class #406193 stack overflow when delegating closed and http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/7018/0/56 85848 working. Note: only interpreter part (not jythonc). PS: It's a hack, I know. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=312867&aid=431224&group_id=12867 |
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From: Samuele P. <pe...@in...> - 2001-06-07 19:36:16
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Hi. > > -> I'm not convinced there's a better, stable, cross-platform > -> answer out there today, but probably *soon* there will be > -> a stable enough xml-based system (that can even generate > -> the old latex if needs be). There are such systems today, > -> but I don't think they fit all of the criteria one might > -> want: () > > What about DocBook? I've heard good things about it, although I've not > gotten around to using it personally. > If I remember well, using DocBook is an idea that is haunting around also for CPython doc but refrained for the moment because of stable, usable, cross-platform, free issues for tools. For the moment, in order to get started and gather things the wiki should be ok. I think that asking directly on doc-sig list or to Fred Drake on the format, tools issue in relation with CPython doc and its future would be very useful. A marginal note: latex, tex exists and works under win but for the other tools I don't know either. regards, Samuele Pedroni. |
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From: <ti...@ca...> - 2001-06-07 18:35:04
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-> I'm not convinced there's a better, stable, cross-platform -> answer out there today, but probably *soon* there will be -> a stable enough xml-based system (that can even generate -> the old latex if needs be). There are such systems today, -> but I don't think they fit all of the criteria one might -> want: (stable, usable, cross-platform, free) What about DocBook? I've heard good things about it, although I've not gotten around to using it personally. --t |
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From: Mats W. <ma...@la...> - 2001-06-07 18:17:42
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>> Well, latex does seems somewhat old and dusty (just IMHO). The list of >> tools also seems quite intimidating. I haven't searched for them yet, >> but some look very unix centric. Obviously I will prefer an enviroment >> where I too can generate the output files on my win2k. Does the latex >> tools also exists on windows? >After surfing a bit, it does seem latex is more *nix-centric and >not nearly as ubiquitous as I had thought. I'm terribly uninformed >about win/mac tools, so I'd better get things working on Windows >before suggesting ;) All hints are welcome from other win/mac >latex users. TeX itself (and thus Latex) is available for Windows platforms and works fine. I've used it (rarely, however) in that environment for many years. Where we probably get into trouble is all the conversion tools that turn the base docs into different output styles, esp. the webpages we know and love... >> If we pick a CVS based route, I think we should add a new CVS module (we >> already have "jython" and "htdocs") that contains only the doc sources. > >Agreed. And better saved for when "formal" layout is figured >out (i.e. will latex+win/mac be a nuissance). > >The idea of generating content in a wiki before >formalizing docs might allow quick start despite the >unknowns in formal layout. > >I put up a couple wiki pages for those anxious to get started (I >hope this was ok): > >http://www.jython.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/JythonDevelDocs The advantage in starting from the existing CPython docs is that there's a lot that's reusable, and it's cleaner to fold in the changes as the Python languages itself evolves, always consiering that CPython continues to be the reference implementation (maybe it will be Python.net instead :-) (no, really, that was a joke). I agree with Finn: I also find the Latex stuff old and clunky, and I say that from the viewpoint of someone who used to *like* troff. The real irritant, to me, is that to use it effectively you almost have to use emacs, and I loathe and detest emacs. So there. There's also the problem that the CPython docs depend on tools that are a little fragile - they're not that well understood and when stuff breaks, tweaking them breaks other things. The hyperlinks in the html output, for example, are not generating correctly all the time. There was big head scratching over the 2.0 tutorial where they were completely broken, and I just ran across some in the 2.1 docs that are also busted. Someone might ask Fred Drake for an opinion, my view is just that of an outside observer, he's working with this stuff all the time. I'm not convinced there's a better, stable, cross-platform answer out there today, but probably *soon* there will be a stable enough xml-based system (that can even generate the old latex if needs be). There are such systems today, but I don't think they fit all of the criteria one might want: (stable, usable, cross-platform, free) So I guess I endorse the concept of gathering information someplace where at least it's recorded and discussed, and then hash out the production details. Mats |
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From: Robert W. B. <rb...@di...> - 2001-06-07 17:51:15
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Finn Bock wrote: > [moving the discussion to jython-dev] > > [finn] > > Is the SF DocManager usefull for this? > > > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=12867 > > [Robert] > > >This may be a good start, but it seems unclear what format limitation > >there is on SF. A limitation to html might not be ideal? > > I tend to agree. > > >I'm > >curious what people think about sticking closer to the latex documentation > >Fred Drake details here: > > > > http://python.sourceforge.net/devel-docs/doc/doc.html > > Copying the use of latex from CPython might be a good idea. That way we > get both Fred's documentation on latex use and lots of examples. > > >CVS + latex and converting to format-specific output seems a better > >investment. How can you do this on SF? Would this mean a separate > >'project' for documentation where only the html output is committed to the > >jython project? What are others thoughts? My cvs+emacs+latex > >bias may be another's bane, so speak up. > > Well, latex does seems somewhat old and dusty (just IMHO). The list of > tools also seems quite intimidating. I haven't searched for them yet, > but some look very unix centric. Obviously I will prefer an enviroment > where I too can generate the output files on my win2k. Does the latex > tools also exists on windows? After surfing a bit, it does seem latex is more *nix-centric and not nearly as ubiquitous as I had thought. I'm terribly uninformed about win/mac tools, so I'd better get things working on Windows before suggesting ;) All hints are welcome from other win/mac latex users. > We may also require some additions to the latex macros. Perhaps > something that can pretty print static and instance java methods. > > >It seems a quick consesus may be most useful, so I'll cast my > >inconsequential vote for what seems most likely to allow latex source... > >If authors can have rw to only a /doc subdirectory of Jython's cvs- do > >that. > > I don't think that is technically doable (please correct me if anyone > knows how) but it may not be a major problem. If write-access to the CVS > is mis-used it is easily revoked. > > If we pick a CVS based route, I think we should add a new CVS module (we > already have "jython" and "htdocs") that contains only the doc sources. Agreed. And better saved for when "formal" layout is figured out (i.e. will latex+win/mac be a nuissance). The idea of generating content in a wiki before formalizing docs might allow quick start despite the unknowns in formal layout. I put up a couple wiki pages for those anxious to get started (I hope this was ok): http://www.jython.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/JythonDevelDocs |
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From: <bc...@wo...> - 2001-06-07 16:26:42
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[moving the discussion to jython-dev] [finn] > Is the SF DocManager usefull for this? > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=12867 [Robert] >This may be a good start, but it seems unclear what format limitation >there is on SF. A limitation to html might not be ideal? I tend to agree. >I'm >curious what people think about sticking closer to the latex documentation >Fred Drake details here: > > http://python.sourceforge.net/devel-docs/doc/doc.html Copying the use of latex from CPython might be a good idea. That way we get both Fred's documentation on latex use and lots of examples. >CVS + latex and converting to format-specific output seems a better >investment. How can you do this on SF? Would this mean a separate >'project' for documentation where only the html output is committed to the >jython project? What are others thoughts? My cvs+emacs+latex >bias may be another's bane, so speak up. Well, latex does seems somewhat old and dusty (just IMHO). The list of tools also seems quite intimidating. I haven't searched for them yet, but some look very unix centric. Obviously I will prefer an enviroment where I too can generate the output files on my win2k. Does the latex tools also exists on windows? We may also require some additions to the latex macros. Perhaps something that can pretty print static and instance java methods. >It seems a quick consesus may be most useful, so I'll cast my >inconsequential vote for what seems most likely to allow latex source... >If authors can have rw to only a /doc subdirectory of Jython's cvs- do >that. I don't think that is technically doable (please correct me if anyone knows how) but it may not be a major problem. If write-access to the CVS is mis-used it is easily revoked. If we pick a CVS based route, I think we should add a new CVS module (we already have "jython" and "htdocs") that contains only the doc sources. regards, finn |
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From: Stephen S. <ss...@ci...> - 2001-06-06 20:23:32
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Folk, I am using Jython as a runtime interpreter embedded in a monitor system. The system runs many monitors at a time. Each monitor needs its own name space. Within a monitor there may be a number of modules. Modules are synthesized at runtime and (hopefully) are not stored as files in a file system. I have the following problems: 1) compile a module to a runtime representation (this appears to be done by imp.compileFromSource which is not a public interface) and save it in the monitor system 2) install (import) the module into as many of the interpreters as necessary. I am assuming that I can create several interpreters with disjoint name spaces (my experiments seem to indicate that this is possible). So, any help on items 1 and 2 or on the error of my way will be fully appreciated. Thanks -steve |
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From: <PDW...@ao...> - 2001-06-06 09:43:48
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Where can I get this? I'd like o do some embedded jython work, but I amissing this package. Paul |
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From: Dan B. <dan...@se...> - 2001-06-04 19:28:19
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Hi, Manning is looking for an author(s) for a Jython book to complement our excellent Python books. If you folks know of anyone who could take this on in a timely fashion, I would appreciate hearing from you. Manning enjoys an excellent reputation for quality. We are able to offer our authors outstanding editorial support. Regards, Dan ======================================= Dan Barthel Acquisitions Editor Manning Publications Co. 32 Lafayette Place, Greenwich, CT 06830 941-393-0921 www.manning.com ======================================= |
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From: Rodrigo D. A. S. <Rod...@ic...> - 2001-06-02 03:58:35
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On Wed, 30 May 2001 10:15:08 GMT
bc...@wo... (Finn Bock) wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2001 02:57:39 -0300, you wrote:
> >So I figured is time to change the note in platform.html (Jython's
> >web site) that states lack of compatibility between jython and Kaffe.
Maybe I should have rephrased that to: ``the lack of compatibility has=20
diminished'' ;o) Sorry about that. I was so excited to (retire jacl)=20
have Jython running on our modified Kaffe version (Guaran=E1) that=20
I probably rushed things over. I apologize for the unprecise information=20
given.
The status is the following (after having my ear pulled deservedly):
- Kaffe does not run the jython's installer properly.
Kaffe triggers the installer all right, asks for install profile, but du=
ring
copying it accuses: ``can get instance of an SHA-1 Digest Object''
Is this supposed to be in the JVM class libs or is it bundled within=20
the installer ? Apparentely, the script failed right after creating the =
directory
tree and before copying any file (screen accused intention of copying th=
e gif
PythonPowered).
- Through the ``add_package'' workaround, it is possible to circunvent K=
affe's
autodiscovery failure. I did not yet manage to figure out why.
=20
> Did you find out the why site.py wasn't imported correctly? Since all
> exceptions from site.py are silently ignored during startup, it is
> parhaps easier to debug the problem by importing site.py manually. Star=
t
> the interpreter with -S option like this:
>=20
> i:\>jython -S
> Jython 2.1a1 on java1.3.0 (JIT: null)
> >>> import site
> >>>
>=20
I did it with the following results...
[rodrigo@Max python]$ jython -S =20
Jython 2.1a1 on java1.0.6-20010401 (JIT: kaffe.jit)
>>> import site
Traceback (innermost last):
File "<console>", line 1, in ?
File "/usr/local/jython-2.1a1/Lib/site.py", line 62, in ?
File "/usr/local/jython-2.1a1/Lib/javaos.py", line 22, in ?
ImportError: no module named java
>>> import sys
>>> sys.add_package('java')
<java package java at 139235008>
>>> import site
>>>=20
Rod
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Rodrigo Senra =20
Computer Engineer (GPr Sistemas Ltda) rod...@gp...=20
MSc Student (IC - UNICAMP) Rod...@ic...
Home Page http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~921234 (ICQ 114477550)
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From: Stephen S. <ss...@ci...> - 2001-06-01 16:10:03
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Robert,
Thanks. I had finally found this distinction. The problem I was having was that I need to
generate the code for later execution. I have found (as you point out) that I can compile for
execution or for eval and later execute the code with the same result.
I appreciate the reply.
-steve
"Robert W. Bill" wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> On Thu, 31 May 2001, Stephen Schleimer wrote:
> > Folk,
> >
> > I am attempting to embed Jython in a system whose dynamic configuration
> > is to include Jython expressions and code fragments. These code
> > fragments are runtime evaluated and effect the progress of the overall
> > system. The fragments serve as statement guards, iterators, etc.
> > Thus, I need to do a good deal of expression evaluation, examine, in
> > Java, the results of the evaluation and proceed. Not every expression
> > will naturally set a variable in the environment storing its results.
> > Thus, I would like to be able to determine the value of the evaluated
> > expression without resorting to a storage side effect .
> >
> > The public interfaces to Py (such as runCode) return a value. However,
> > in the way I have been experimenting with them, the value is always
> > PyNone. In addition, a printed result of the expression evaluation is
> > delivered to sysout.
> >
> > I am looking, therefore, for a couple of things:
> >
> > 1) reliably suppressing delivery of the computed result of the
> > expression to sysout
> > 2) reliably delivering the computed result to the invoker of the
> > expression evaluation.
> >
> > Any aid is appreciated.
>
> I'm probably misunderstanding this, but I think you could use the
> PythonInterpreter instance to eval and exec things.
>
> If the code fragments are statement/assignment-free, you can use
> interp.eval(fragment) which returns a PyObject.
>
> If statements/assignments exist in the fragments, you can use
> interp.exec(someFunnyVar = fragment); then
> PyObject x = PyObject.get("someFunnyVar").
>
> Both ways `reliably' get values from the interpreter and neither prints to
> stdout unless there is a print statement in the fragment.
>
> Here's an example of eval'ing and exec'ing things and getting objects
> from the interpreter in case it helps. I'm not sure I really understand
> your situation, so complain lots if I'm way off base.
>
> //====file: test.java
> import java.util.Properties;
> import org.python.core.*;
> import org.python.util.*;
>
> class test {
> static PythonInterpreter interp;
>
> public static void main(String[] args) {
> Properties props = new Properties();
> props.setProperty("python.home", "/home/rbill/jython-2.1a1");
> PythonInterpreter.initialize(System.getProperties(), props, new String[0]);
> interp = new PythonInterpreter();
>
> // If you truly just need to evaluate, use this
> PyObject i = interp.eval("1 and 0 or 2");
> System.out.println( i );
>
> // If you write eval'able fragments, return value are automatic.
> // Here's another that processes this code file for lines
> // containing "eval", plus does some other wacky stuff just to
> // show how much can be done in an eval().
> i = interp.eval("filter(lambda x: x.find('eval') > -1, [x.strip()[:-1] for x in " +
> "open('test.java').readlines() if not x.lstrip().startswith('//')])");
> System.out.println(i);
>
> // If eval doesn't cut it,and you really need statements, you
> // could assign the results of your fragments to a variable in the
> // interpreter and extract it.
> interp.exec("import sys; __frag_val = sys.path");
> PyObject p = interp.get("__frag_val");
> System.out.println(p);
> }
> }
>
> cheers,
> Robert
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jython-dev mailing list
> Jyt...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
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From: Samuele P. <pe...@in...> - 2001-06-01 14:18:27
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Hi. [Neal Norwitz] > Hello! > > I have created a program PyChecker to perform Python source code checking. > (http://pychecker.sourceforge.net). > > PyChecker is implemented in C Python and does some "tricky" things. > It doesn't currently work in Jython due to the module dis (disassemble code) > not being available in Jython. > > Is there any fundamental problem with getting PyChecker to work under Jython? > > Here's a high-level overview of what PyChecker does: > > imp.find_module() > imp.load_module() > for each object in dir(module): > # object can be a class, function, imported module, etc. > for each instruction in disassembled byte code: > # handle each instruction appropriately > > This hides a lot of details, but I do lots of things like getting the code objects from the classes, methods, and > functions, look at the arguments > in functions, etc. > > Is it possible to make work in Jython? Easy? > > Thanks for any guidance, > Neal It would be great - really - but about easy? As easy as making PyChecker working on source code without using dis and without importing/executing modules and their top defs, I think there will be no dis support on jython side (we produce java bytecode and getting "back" to python vm bytecode would be very tricky, not very elegant, etc. ) any time soon <wink>. Seriously, two possible workaround hacks (they are also not very easy), this is just after small brainstorming and ignoring the concrete needs and code of PyChecker: +) more elegant one, but maybe still too difficult or requiring too much work: let PyChecker run under CPython even when checking jython code, jython code can compile down to py vm bytecode but then does not run: why? java classes imports and the jython specific builtin modules (not so many) So one needs to implement a sufficient amount of python (an import hook, etc) code that does the minimal partial evalution required and the required amount of loading&introspection on java, jython specific stuff in order to have the imports work and PyChecher feeded with the things it needs. This means dealing with the java class format, or a two passes approach: run the code under jython in order to gather the information needed to load it succesfully under python. If the top level code contains conditionals that depend on jython stuff this could be hard, but one can ignore that (at least for starting). Clearly the main PyChecker loop would require some adaptation, and maybe include some logic to check some jython specific stuff (subclassing from java, etc). *) let an adapted PyChecker run under jython, obtain someway the needed py vm bytecode stream from a source -> py vm bytecode compiler written in python (such a thing exists - if I remember well) . And similar ideas ... regards, Samuele Pedroni. |
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From: Neal N. <ne...@me...> - 2001-06-01 13:25:19
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Hello! I have created a program PyChecker to perform Python source code checking. (http://pychecker.sourceforge.net). PyChecker is implemented in C Python and does some "tricky" things. It doesn't currently work in Jython due to the module dis (disassemble code) not being available in Jython. Is there any fundamental problem with getting PyChecker to work under Jython? Here's a high-level overview of what PyChecker does: imp.find_module() imp.load_module() for each object in dir(module): # object can be a class, function, imported module, etc. for each instruction in disassembled byte code: # handle each instruction appropriately This hides a lot of details, but I do lots of things like getting the code objects from the classes, methods, and functions, look at the arguments in functions, etc. Is it possible to make work in Jython? Easy? Thanks for any guidance, Neal |