From: <na...@rv...> - 2000-03-07 00:43:56
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On 6 Mar 00, at 19:22, Jeff Duska wrote: > I may be out in left field on this, but I need to make a comment. Threads > like this have kept me quite on this list. This latest batch of bashing > fellow members for minor questions or comments gives me pause. It seems that > we extremely eager to attack each other here, instead of working in > cooperation. > Amen brother Duska... Really, the resurfacing of this issue seems very petty to me. > I am VB consultant by trade and my work with Java, Python and Korfe will be > in my own time. It will also be on my own time table. I am afraid to do > anything for fear that it will launch a tirade of flames, because I sure > that I will make a mistake of some type. This is not exactly the incentive > to gain additional developers or users. > It would be nice to drop the combatitorial tones when speaking of peoples plugins. Yes, some of the bugs are very annoying, but we must all understand that most of the development (and probably all) is being done in peoples spare time (spare time, what a joke). No, it isn't going to be enterprise ready from the get go. Let's keep our sharp words in check and instead make suggestions. If a certain bug is really eating at you, then fix it yourself. > If the goal is create an IDE that people will flock to then, this will need > to change. I expect that quantity of "newbie" or annoying questions will > only rise in the future. As such, we need to be much more tolerant of > individual mistakes or misunderstandings. > > My last topic will be vulgarity of on this list. This does not convey the > professionalism that I'm used to. As consultant, I can not recommend this > list to clients, because this lacks professionalism. It leaves the > impression that this group does not have the intelligence to articulate > themselves. In turn, this reflects poorly on anyone who would recommend this > group. > > All this leads to several questions for the group: > > * I am I mistaken in the goals of jEdit are? > * Is this too much to ask from this group? > * Am I off base? > * Does anyone agree? > * Should I just shut the hell up and leave? > One thing to note Jeff, this list in particular is for the developers of jedit and plugins. While I agree, certain language doesn't reflect professionalism, I let it slide without comment on this list because this is more like a gathering around a water cooler environment, rather than a presentation to a client. --------------------------------------------------------- "Clothes make the man, naked people have little or no influence on society" --Mark Twain-- Nathan Tenney Computer Specialist K-SAR Video Productions Utah State University na...@rv... |