Re: [ jEdit-users ] which editor?

[gene C. <gen...@ya...>]

Well, I'd love to help, and may someday I will.  But for some valid 
reasons building plugins is not something I have time for.  However, 
like everything in life, it's all about priorities.  Now, I'm going to 
step a bit into unsure-due-to-lack-of-knowledge-land.... Perhaps someone 
could manage and architect a solution to this problem, basically 
maintain a set of plugins and functionality required to make Java coding 
on jEdit really top quality.  By architect, I mean, design the plugins 
to all work together, and work smoothly.  Then, each bits of work 
(features and bugs) can be assigned to coders that have time to do a bit 
if it's not too much (possibly me.)  Some plugin authors might love to 
submit their plugins to central management.  I don't know any that 
would; I'm just guessing.  Of course the manager wouldn't have to do 
much coding, if they didn't want to.  The manager, through design 
discussions could come up with direction and then generate work to be 
done, and manage the submissions of work....


gene



Dale Anson wrote:

> Even better, since you're using jEdit for Java development, why not 
> help out with some of the plugins to get jEdit to do what you want? 
> Personally, I find jEdit to be sufficient for all of my development 
> needs. A fairly small set of plugins and macros gets jEdit the 
> majority of features you'll find in an IDE anyway.  Mostly I do web 
> development, so a combination of html, javascript, jsps, and java, 
> plus some perl on occasion.  Here's what I've got:
>
> Antelope: runs Ant.  Handles all the build stuff.  There is also 
> AntFarm, and several other Ant related plugins to help with build files.
>
> BufferList: there are a number of buffer selector plugins, this one is 
> my personal favorite, but there is bound to be one that you'll like.
>
> JDiff: does a decent diff.
>
> Navigator: makes it easier to move around code.
>
> ProjectViewer: project management.  Has perforce integration if you're 
> working on unix/linux.
>
> SideKick: with JavaScriptSideKick, JavaSideKick, PerlSideKick, and 
> XML, for code browsing.
>
> I use macros to run perforce.  I've never found much use for a 
> debugger in Java.  I'm not sure what else an IDE would provide that 
> would be useful. Mostly, I find IDEs, Eclipse especially, forces you 
> to work their way, which might not be my way.
>
> Dale
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Gene Campbell wrote:
>
>> Matthieu, Ant, Chris,
>>
>> Thanks for the replies.  It seems I'm not alone.  It looks like we're 
>> spoiled to some degree with jEdit.  I like the idea of contacting 
>> Intelij with a wish list.  But, until then, I'll muddle through.  :P
>>
>> cheers
>> gene
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm in exactly the same position. I'm a long time jEdit user and 
>>> have switched
>>> to IDEA for Java work (via Eclipse) but still use jEdit for a lot of 
>>> other
>>> stuff. It's safe to say that Eclipse isn't the answer if you're 
>>> looking for
>>> better editing than IDEA. IDEA's editor is way better than 
>>> Eclipse's. Eclipse's
>>> editor lacks some of the most basic editing features and that fact 
>>> alone kept me
>>> using jEdit for Java for a long time despite Eclipse's much better 
>>> integrated
>>> Java IDE features (integrated compared to jEdit's anyway). I found 
>>> that IDEA's
>>> editor was good enough for me to switch from jEdit because 
>>> everything else
>>> about it was so great for Java work.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Quoting gene Campbell <gen...@ya...>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hello All,
>>> > > I've been a jEdit user for quite a while now.  I used jEdit for 
>>> Java dev
>>> > for a couple of years.  But, eventually the tide took me over and I
>>> > switched to IDEA.  I'm still not happy.
>>> > > I continue to use jEdit for some editing jobs that don't require 
>>> code
>>> > hopping or completing.  Unfortunately, the two (jEdit & IDEA) are not
>>> > integrated in any way.  And, neither does a good job at the whole
>>> > thing.  I'm sort of stuck.
>>> > > For example, Incremental Search in jEdit - Awesome!  Incremental 
>>> Search
>>> > in IDEA (v4.5) sucks - don't update find again, so there's no way to
>>> > repeat the search.
>>> > > Is there a better IDE for jEdit users?  Is there a set of 
>>> plug-ins now
>>> > that will work well (in Linux) and will allow me to work solely that
>>> > way?  Is Eclipse the answer?
>>> > > I have a hard time believing that developers don't want powerful
>>> > editing.  If none of the front-runner ide's can excel in the 
>>> essentials,
>>> > perhaps it is time for us to join together and make jEdit contender
>>> > IDE.  (I just stepped out of my knowledge confort zone.)
>>> > > thanks
>>> > > cheers
>>> > gene
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