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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] No libgcj.jar

[Nicolas M. <ni...@be...>]

Where did you get a 0.8.2 ebuild? I'm currently working on one, didn't
know that there was already one. (don't see it on bugs.gentoo.org)

For the libgcj.jar file to be found, make a symlink
/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc/share/libgcj.jar ->
/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2/java/libgcj-3.2.3.jar and it
should work. Note that you'll probably get other errors too, I'm still
working on an ebuild that would fix this. This would be a short term
solution since delevopers are working on 0.8.3 that should fix all these
errors.

On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 23:06, Andrew|dev wrote:
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> I'm wondering how I could not have libgcj.jar?
> find / -name libgcj.jar returned nothing. I am trying to ./configure the
> CVS sources, but obviously it fails!
> I have 0.82 installed via a gentoo ebuild?
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] [ java-gnome-Bugs-889277 ] Should build using only GCJ

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il lun, 2004-02-02 alle 22:15, SourceForge.net ha scritto:

> The GCJ package (part of GCC and included on most linux
> distros) can compile and execute standard java byte
> codes, that is, it includes the ability to compile Java
> sources to *.class files and run then. Besides it
> includes jar and other standard command-line tools from
> Sun Java2 SDK.
> 
> So it should be possible to compile java-gnome using
> just GCJ, without the need for a Java2 SDK, which is
> best suited for free-software operating systems. This
> does not imply generating native code which depends on
> libgcj. The generated class files could be run on Sun
> Java2 SDK or Kaffe.
> 
> Actually Red Hat uses GCJ to compile Tomcat, Ant,
> PostgreSQL JDBC Driver, Eclipse and other Java-related
> apps included on RHEL3
I agree. We should only add a --without-jdk-compile or such option.
Could it find a place in the 0.8.3 release?
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] pixbuf and glade??

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il lun, 2004-02-02 alle 03:31, Ray Auge ha scritto:
> Hello All,
> 
> When trying to append a PixBuf in the TreeView example, I get an error
> like so:
> 
Could I see your code and yor .glade file, please?
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Ant v Makefile

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il dom, 2004-02-01 alle 18:52, ACJT ha scritto:
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> No argument, just wondering the reason, thought it might be related to
> bindings work. I had the thought it would make porting to windows easier.
We were using ant until 0.8.2 (if I'm right).
For the windows platform it shouldn't be an issue since however it
requires a plethora of tools to be installed.
Maybe you could grab an older java-gnome version and see how the ant
build was working.

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Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] more glade

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il ven, 2004-01-30 alle 21:00, Alex Moreno ha scritto:
> I've seen that you can´t call glade files which were instantiated on
> a class different from the calling class.
Please, could you explain it in a simplier way? 
Are you trying to call the same glade file from different classes?
Let me know, I really couldn't understand your point.
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[Java-gnome-developer] No libgcj.jar

[Andrew|dev <at....@ds...>]

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I'm wondering how I could not have libgcj.jar?
find / -name libgcj.jar returned nothing. I am trying to ./configure the
CVS sources, but obviously it fails!
I have 0.82 installed via a gentoo ebuild?

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[Java-gnome-developer] [ java-gnome-Bugs-889277 ] Should build using only GCJ

[SourceForge.net <no...@so...>]

Bugs item #889277, was opened at 2004-02-02 13:15
Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter
You can respond by visiting: 
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=101522&aid=889277&group_id=1522

Category: build
Group: defect
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Should build using only GCJ

Initial Comment:
The GCJ package (part of GCC and included on most linux
distros) can compile and execute standard java byte
codes, that is, it includes the ability to compile Java
sources to *.class files and run then. Besides it
includes jar and other standard command-line tools from
Sun Java2 SDK.

So it should be possible to compile java-gnome using
just GCJ, without the need for a Java2 SDK, which is
best suited for free-software operating systems. This
does not imply generating native code which depends on
libgcj. The generated class files could be run on Sun
Java2 SDK or Kaffe.

Actually Red Hat uses GCJ to compile Tomcat, Ant,
PostgreSQL JDBC Driver, Eclipse and other Java-related
apps included on RHEL3


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[Java-gnome-developer] release 0.8.3 in progress

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

I am sorry about all of the problems you have had with release 0.8.2.
When we decided to join the GNOME Platform Bindings we needed
to create a baseline where we could create a new branch in our code
so we rushed out this release.  I am starting on an 0.8.3 release
that I hope to have out in a day or two.  I wish to make sure I have
addressed as many of the problems you have encountered as possible.
Could you please take the time to create a sourceforge bug report
for each item you know.

Thanks
-Jeff

[Java-gnome-developer] pixbuf and glade??

[Ray A. <ra...@do...>]

Hello All,

When trying to append a PixBuf in the TreeView example, I get an error
like so:


(=10*x=C2=90-gnome:2631): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gvaluetypes.c: l=
ine
795 (g_value_set_pointer): assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_POINTER (value)'
failed


Does anyone know what the problems might be?

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] D-BUS Java Bindings

[Elias M. <el...@al...>]

s=C3=B6n 2004-02-01 klockan 21.41 skrev Mark Howard:
> Hi,
>   The java-gnome project is very much in need of help itself at the
> moment. We're very stretched trying to keep up with gnome release.

I know that, but it's mostly GTK-related coding. I don't know the GTK C
API's, and I haven't really considered learning.

> Implementing d-bus in java seems very difficult - I must ask why you
> think it is worth the effort.

Interesting how you say so. Looking at the spec, it seems to me it's
easier to simply implement the protocol rather than have to do the JNI
dance.

> Is
> there really a great demand for d-bus on platforms where it doesn't
> already exist?

I'd say that today, there is no need at all since it isn't deployed
anywhere yet. But in the future, sure. It is, after all, supposed to be
_the_ way desktop applications communicate with the surrounding system.

> Also, would your implementation be able to interact with the current c
> implementation (sorry, I don't know the details of d-bus)?

Yes of course, that's the whole point. :-)

Regards

Elias

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Cannot compile java-gnome-0.8.2...

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 09:59:25PM +0100, Nicolas Mommaerts wrote:
> Take your time ;)
> 
> I already mailed Jeffrey about these errors, I tried to solve them
> myself but didn't have much succes. I think the errors are generated
> because install -d api/* expects to find only directories, but javadoc
> creates it's index, summary etc html pages in there.

You're right - install -d is the wrong thing to be doing. not sure what
the best thing to replace it with is though...

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Cannot compile java-gnome-0.8.2...

[Nicolas M. <ni...@be...>]

Take your time ;)

I already mailed Jeffrey about these errors, I tried to solve them
myself but didn't have much succes. I think the errors are generated
because install -d api/* expects to find only directories, but javadoc
creates it's index, summary etc html pages in there.

Error:

/bin/install -c -d -m644 tutorial
/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/image//usr/share/doc/java-gnome-0.8/doc/core/
# TODO: create a makefile in the following place, linking to the jar
files,
# setting ld-library-path, etc. as determined by the configure script.
/bin/install -c -d
/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/image//usr/share/doc/java-gnome-0.8/api/core/
/bin/install -c -d -m644 api/*
/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/image//usr/share/doc/java-gnome-0.8/api/core/
/bin/install: `api/allclasses-frame.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/allclasses-noframe.html' exists but is not a
directory
/bin/install: `api/constant-values.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/deprecated-list.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/help-doc.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/index-all.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/index.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/overview-frame.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/overview-summary.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/overview-tree.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/package-list' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/packages.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/serialized-form.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/stylesheet.css' exists but is not a directory
make[1]: *** [install] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/work/java-gnome-0.8.2/doc-core'
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/work/java-gnome-0.8.2/doc-gnome'
/bin/install -c -d
/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/image//usr/share/doc/java-gnome-0.8/doc/gnome/
/bin/install -c -m644 build-tutorial/index.html
/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/image//usr/share/doc/java-gnome-0.8/doc/gnome/tutorial.html
# TODO: create a makefile in the following place, linking to the jar
files,
# setting ld-library-path, etc. as determined by the configure script.
/bin/install -c -d
/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/image//usr/share/doc/java-gnome-0.8/api/gnome
/bin/install -c -d -m644 api/*
/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/image//usr/share/doc/java-gnome-0.8/api/gnome/
/bin/install: `api/allclasses-frame.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/allclasses-noframe.html' exists but is not a
directory
/bin/install: `api/constant-values.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/deprecated-list.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/help-doc.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/index-all.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/index.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/overview-frame.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/overview-summary.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/overview-tree.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/package-list' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/packages.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/serialized-form.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/stylesheet.css' exists but is not a directory
make[1]: *** [install] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/work/java-gnome-0.8.2/doc-gnome'
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/work/java-gnome-0.8.2/doc-glade'
# TODO: create a makefile in the following place, linking to the jar
files,
# setting ld-library-path, etc. as determined by the configure script.
/bin/install -c -d
/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/image//usr/share/doc/java-gnome-0.8/api/glade/
/bin/install -c -d -m644 api/*
/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/image//usr/share/doc/java-gnome-0.8/api/glade/
/bin/install: `api/allclasses-frame.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/allclasses-noframe.html' exists but is not a
directory
/bin/install: `api/constant-values.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/deprecated-list.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/help-doc.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/index-all.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/index.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/overview-tree.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/package-list' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/packages.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/serialized-form.html' exists but is not a directory
/bin/install: `api/stylesheet.css' exists but is not a directory
make[1]: *** [install] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/java-gnome-0.8.2/work/java-gnome-0.8.2/doc-glade'
make: *** [install] Error 2

!!! ERROR: dev-java/java-gnome-0.8.2 failed.
!!! Function src_install, Line 51, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)




On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 21:35, Mark Howard wrote:
> >but I still get errors
> > further along the road which I haven't solved yet.
> 
> Please send details - then we can make sure any fixes are included in
> 0.8.3
> 
> Sorry it's taking so long to get 0.8.3 released. We have all been
> working very hard on the 2.5 series to make sure we meet the gnome
> bindings release deadlines. It's very hectic.

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] D-BUS Java Bindings

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

Hi,
  The java-gnome project is very much in need of help itself at the
moment. We're very stretched trying to keep up with gnome release.

Implementing d-bus in java seems very difficult - I must ask why you
think it is worth the effort. JNI wrappers would be much easier. Is
there really a great demand for d-bus on platforms where it doesn't
already exist?
Also, would your implementation be able to interact with the current c
implementation (sorry, I don't know the details of d-bus)?

-- 
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Cannot compile java-gnome-0.8.2...

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

>but I still get errors
> further along the road which I haven't solved yet.

Please send details - then we can make sure any fixes are included in
0.8.3

Sorry it's taking so long to get 0.8.3 released. We have all been
working very hard on the 2.5 series to make sure we meet the gnome
bindings release deadlines. It's very hectic.

-- 
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Cannot compile java-gnome-0.8.2...

[Nicolas M. <ni...@be...>]

I had the same problem, already mentioned this on this mailling list. It
seems this is a known problem and the developers are currently working
on a 0.8.3 release that will fix this. One of the developers suggested
me to delete the passworddialog sources before compiling it (the java
source and the c source), that works for me but I still get errors
further along the road which I haven't solved yet.

On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 21:22, S=E9bastien Moran wrote:
> Hi,=20
>=20
> i am new with java-gnome, i get the java-gnome-0.8.2 archive and try
> to compile it.
>=20
> The 'make' commands ended with :
>=20
>     make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/home/sebz/Downloads/java-gnome-0.8.2/doc-glade'
>=20
> I looked at the previous errors and found :
>=20
>=20
> jni/org_gnu_gconf_ConfValue.o(.text+0x44c): In function
> `Java_org_gnu_gconf_ConfValue_gconf_1value_1to_1string':
> jni/org_gnu_gconf_ConfValue.c:266: undefined reference to
> `gconf_value_to_string'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[2]: *** [../lib/libgconfjava0.8.so.0.8.2] Erreur 1
>=20
>=20
> and before that :=20
>=20
> jni/org_gnu_gnome_PasswordDialog.o(.text+0x378): In function
> `Java_org_gnu_gnome_PasswordDialog_gnome_1password_1dialog_1get_1rememb=
er':
> jni/org_gnu_gnome_PasswordDialog.c:173: undefined reference to
> `gnome_password_dialog_get_remember'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[1]: *** [../lib/libgnomejava0.8.so.0.8.2] Erreur 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/home/sebz/Downloads/java-gnome-0.8.2/gnome/src'
> make: *** [distro] Erreur 2
>=20
>=20
> I looked at the 'lib' directory of 'gconf' and 'gnome' and the
> 'libxxxjava0.8.so.0.8.2' were missing ...
>=20
> what does it mean ... ?
>=20
> Thx for help, i am so impatient to look at my first JAVA-GNOME app :)
> !!
>=20
> sebz.

[Java-gnome-developer] D-BUS Java Bindings

[Elias M. <el...@al...>]

Hello all!

This message is not directly related to the Java-GNOME project but it's
close enough to warrant being posted here, where the skill set I am
looking for exist.

D-BUS is a message bus, developed under freedesktop.org, which intends
of becoming a sort of "information hub" on the desktop. If you don't
know about it, here is the web site:
http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/dbus

I have been looking at implementing the D-BUS protocol in Java. Hardly
any work is done by anyone (although someone has written some simple
wrappers around JNI calls into the C library).

What I want/intend to do, is to re-implement the D-BUS protocol in Java,
thus making the Java bindings completely "pure" (i.e. no native code).
This way we'd have interoperability with all platforms, not just the
ones the D-BUS C library is ported to.

The protocol is simple enough. The specification can be found here:
http://freedesktop.org/Software/dbus/doc/dbus-specification.html

However, I don't want to start to write code by my myself. Even though I
consider myself more than competent enough to actually create this, it
would be nice to actually get to discuss the implementation and the
API's before starting, and if you're alone on this then one might never
come up with the really good solutions.

The protocol itself is "sort of" RPC-ish in nature, but there is no
standard IDL for it (a flaw in my mind, and if I'm allowed to speculate,
this will come). However, even without an IDL I have some ideas that
involve using interfaces and let the library create dynamic proxies on
these to get almost the same effect.

Now, what I would like to know is: are there any skilled Java delopers
out there that has seen the D-BUS protocol and is interested in helping
out creating the Java bindings?

Regards

Elias

[Java-gnome-developer] What you can do to help java-gnome succeed

[Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...>]

This is a very exciting time for the java-gnome project.  Our
inclusion in the GNOME Platform Bindings will greatly increase
the distribution of java-gnome and we hope will lead to more
developers using the bindings.  Joining the GPB also gave this
project a new focus and real deadlines to meet which has resulted
in rapid progress due to an extraordinary effort by the project
developers.  The future looks bright for this project.

Although all of the developers are putting in as much time as they
can there is still much that is being neglected.  This project
should be focused on three areas of development; (1) staying
current with the gnome libraries (required by the GPB),
(2) supporting official release by providing bug fix releases
on a schedule, and (3) adding bindings for new libraries like
libgtkhml, gnomevfs, etc.  At this time we only have the man power
to perform the first area effectively.  Therefore, we need your
help.

If you are interested in joining this team you will find the
developers eager to help you get started.  There is a place on
this project for all skill levels.  Please think about this
long and hard before you join.  Ask yourself if you are willing
to commit the hours it takes to be a part of this project.  If
the answer is yes, you will be successful on this project and
we need your help.

Here are some areas where you might volunteer:

1) Supporting our stable releases.  When the developers move
on to begin working on the next GPB release (a six month 
effort) it is important to support the latest stable release 
with bug fixes and enhancements.
2) Work on the GPB code.  In order to stay on the cvs head
you must be willing to have the latest bleeding edge gnome
installed and be willing to stay up on all of the gnome
development efforts.
3) Add support for a new library like gnomevfs.  Again, you
will need to have the latest gnome code installed. You can
select a module and make it yours.  Once the new module reaches
stability it will be rolled into the GPB release.
4) Enhance our glade implementation.
5) Suggest another area where you can contribute

-Jeff

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Gentoo now has java-gnome 0.8.1

[Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...>]

I wrote an 0.8.1 ebuild and submitted it to the
gentoo bugzilla last November.  When I posted the
email it was because of an email that I received
stating it was being included in the portage tree.
I should have emerged and verified prior to sending
out the email.  If you wish to get the ebuild for
0.8.1 you can go here:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33393

Sorry for the confusion.

-Jeff

On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 12:46, ACJT wrote:
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> When I do emerge -s java-g, it shows vesion 0.71: ?
> 
> *  dev-java/java-gtk
> ~      Latest version available: 0.7.1
> ~      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
> ~      Size of downloaded files: 725 kB
> ~      Homepage:    http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/
> ~      Description: GTK+ bindings for Java
> 
> 
> *  dev-java/java-gnome
> ~      Latest version available: 0.7.1
> ~      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
> ~      Size of downloaded files: 725 kB
> ~      Homepage:    http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/
> ~      Description: Java bindings for GNOME and GTK libraries that
> allow GNOME and GTK applications to be written in Java
> 
> 
> 
> Jeffrey Morgan wrote:
> 
> | The ebuild script that I wrote for Gentoo has now made it into the
> | portage tree.  This means that Gentoo now has java-gnome 0.8.1
> | package as part of its distribution.  It might be nice if somebody
> | could update this to 0.8.2.
> |
> | -Jeff
> |
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Ant v Makefile

[ACJT <ac...@on...>]

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No argument, just wondering the reason, thought it might be related to
bindings work. I had the thought it would make porting to windows easier.



Jeffrey Morgan wrote:

| I know and love ant and use it every day at work.  I would have to
| say there are two reasons why we are not using ant in java-gnome.
| They are:
|
| 1) We have to rely on the GNU build tools to locate, verify and
| link with the appropriate libraries.  We also need these tools to
| sort out differences between each platform.  Ant currently does not
| do a good job at this.  This will delegate ant to a secondary tool
| that can be invoked from our Makefile in order to compile the java
| code.
|
| 2) We wish to limit the number of tools that need to be installed
| and configured on a system in order to compile java-gnome.  Since
| java-gnome has been included in the GNOME Bindings Release we hope
| to see it become a part of many distributions in the future.  Since
| ant is not included in many of the distributions this will require
| developers to download and install another tool prior to compiling
| the bindings.
|
| Right or wrong, this is our view at this point.  Please feel free
| to provide counter arguements.
|
| -Jeff
|
| On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 11:56, ACJT wrote:
|
|> This might seem like a dumb question, but I'm not a C expert, or
|> an expert at building projects in Linux, other than running the
|> commands. Why does java-gnome not use Ant to do the building,
|> considering it is a Java project and Ant is really the standard
|> build tool for Java. I know there are C files to compile, is this
|> the reason? You can use gjc from ant, as a standard task. There
|> is also a task called 'cc' that can compile using gcc for
|> example.
|
|
|
|
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Gentoo now has java-gnome 0.8.1

[ACJT <ac...@on...>]

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When I do emerge -s java-g, it shows vesion 0.71: ?

*  dev-java/java-gtk
~      Latest version available: 0.7.1
~      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
~      Size of downloaded files: 725 kB
~      Homepage:    http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/
~      Description: GTK+ bindings for Java


*  dev-java/java-gnome
~      Latest version available: 0.7.1
~      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
~      Size of downloaded files: 725 kB
~      Homepage:    http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/
~      Description: Java bindings for GNOME and GTK libraries that
allow GNOME and GTK applications to be written in Java



Jeffrey Morgan wrote:

| The ebuild script that I wrote for Gentoo has now made it into the
| portage tree.  This means that Gentoo now has java-gnome 0.8.1
| package as part of its distribution.  It might be nice if somebody
| could update this to 0.8.2.
|
| -Jeff
|
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Ant v Makefile

[Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...>]

I know and love ant and use it every day at work.  I would
have to say there are two reasons why we are not using ant
in java-gnome.  They are:

1) We have to rely on the GNU build tools to locate, verify
and link with the appropriate libraries.  We also need these
tools to sort out differences between each platform.  Ant 
currently does not do a good job at this.  This will delegate
ant to a secondary tool that can be invoked from our Makefile
in order to compile the java code.

2) We wish to limit the number of tools that need to be 
installed and configured on a system in order to compile 
java-gnome.  Since java-gnome has been included in the
GNOME Bindings Release we hope to see it become a part of
many distributions in the future.  Since ant is not included
in many of the distributions this will require developers to
download and install another tool prior to compiling the
bindings.

Right or wrong, this is our view at this point.  Please feel
free to provide counter arguements.

-Jeff

On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 11:56, ACJT wrote:
> This might seem like a dumb question, but I'm not a C expert, or an 
> expert at building projects in Linux, other than running the commands.
> Why does java-gnome not use Ant to do the building, considering it is a 
> Java project and Ant is really the standard build tool for Java. I know 
> there are C files to compile, is this the reason? You can use gjc from 
> ant, as a standard task. There is also a task called 'cc' that can 
> compile using gcc for example.

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] |java-gtk+| > |gtk+|

[Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...>]

On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 12:15, Bob Fischer wrote:
> I'm new to java-gnome.  I'm using it with gcj for software development
> on a (Linux) iPaq.  Obviously, space is limited (32 Mb filesystem).
> 
> Surprisingly (to me at least), the Java bindings take up more space than
> the original GTK+ library!  This is AFTER I've stripped the library. 
> Here's an ls result from my iPaq:
> 
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 citibob  messageb  1690200 Nov 12 15:59 libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.200.4
> -rw-r--r--    1 citibob  messageb  3782288 Feb  1 11:00 libgtkjar0.8.so.0.8.2
> 
> Does anyone know why this is?  Could java-gnome maybe lose a bit of weight?
> 

I just stripped the lib as it currently exists in cvs.  With
debug info included I get the following:

-rwxr-xr-x    1 jeff     users      652604 Feb  1 12:06
libgtkjava2.3.so.2.3.4

I also have a version of 0.8.2 and stripped the lib and got:

-rwxr-xr-x    1 jeff     users      565384 Feb  1 12:13
libgtkjava0.8.so.0.8.2

This is a fraction of the size you are reporting.  My version was
compiled without gcj.  Could this be the difference?

-jeff

[Java-gnome-developer] |java-gtk+| > |gtk+|

[Bob F. <bob...@ea...>]

I'm new to java-gnome.  I'm using it with gcj for software development
on a (Linux) iPaq.  Obviously, space is limited (32 Mb filesystem).

Surprisingly (to me at least), the Java bindings take up more space than
the original GTK+ library!  This is AFTER I've stripped the library. 
Here's an ls result from my iPaq:

-rwxr-xr-x    1 citibob  messageb  1690200 Nov 12 15:59 libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.200.4
-rw-r--r--    1 citibob  messageb  3782288 Feb  1 11:00 libgtkjar0.8.so.0.8.2

Does anyone know why this is?  Could java-gnome maybe lose a bit of weight?

-- Bob

[Java-gnome-developer] Ant v Makefile

[ACJT <ac...@on...>]

This might seem like a dumb question, but I'm not a C expert, or an 
expert at building projects in Linux, other than running the commands.
Why does java-gnome not use Ant to do the building, considering it is a 
Java project and Ant is really the standard build tool for Java. I know 
there are C files to compile, is this the reason? You can use gjc from 
ant, as a standard task. There is also a task called 'cc' that can 
compile using gcc for example.

Thanks.

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java GNOME question

[Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...>]

On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 23:06, Andy Madigan wrote:
> This question specifically concerns the Java-GTK (not GNOME):
> Can I use Java-GTK with MS Windows?
> I assume you would have to compile the libs with cygwin, and probably
> install a few apps in addition to the JDK, could you please tell me
> what I would need to do (and if I need a program, please tell me the
> webiste for it)
> Thanks,
> Andy

I believe it is quite possible to compile java-gnome on a win32 platform
if you have the underlying gtk libs and the utilities necessary to 
compile the system (the GNU build tools like autoconf, etc.)  In order
to compile a current version of java-gnome you will need to have the
GTK 2.x version of the libs.

If you do try this please keep the list informed on your progress and
please submit any patches you make to the build system.  Others will
be quite interested in this effort.  Also, please do not hesitate to
ask for help on this list.

-Jeff