From: Jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2013-09-13 15:15:02
|
My bad! By 'countries' I wanted to write 'counties'... :-[ Also 'world' access on 'ancestry.ca' is: $299.40 for one year!!! 'ancestry.fr' or 'ancestry.de': 199€ for one year 'World Explorer' on 'ancestry.com' is $149 for 6 months Le ven. 13 sept. 2013 at 16:05,Jerome <rom...@ya...> a écrit : > > Enno, > > > Really? In the other sites menu at the bottom of the page, I still > see France above Sverige. And as far as I can see, they don't forget > the French speaking Canadians either, so ... > > Does Canadian who need to get a copy of a record listed as a french > one, need to pay 149€ for having access to this record ('world' > account)? If so, maybe he/she will find more informations via urls > given on > http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Resources_and_related_sites#French_resources > ! Otherwise, most archives (country/city) in France provide online > copies of primary sources > (birth/baptism/death/burial/marriage/census, > etc ...) for free ... Sure, indexes are not always very accessible, > but > they exist! > > Note, about the business, we could made a simple comparison with any > US > compagny moving to Delaware, or an european one to Ireland (or > Netherland) for limiting taxes. Agreed, european versions are now > managed via Luxembourg and records in French are still available; but > they also said that the french market was too difficult because they > need to make partnership (licence) with around 100 archives > (countries). > > source in french: > http://geneinfos.typepad.fr/geneinfos/2011/03/ancestry-gere-desormais-son-site-depuis-le-luxembourg.html > > By the way, 'ancestry.fr' was never a major actor on this country > (3th > or 4th?). Maybe they will buy 'genealogie.com' or 'heredis' (two new > entries for the bottom drop down list on the right corner!), but the > model is changing for online search (at least in France)! > > eg, there is some beta apps (like gramps-connect). > > * gennus (basics in french on http://www.genbecle.org/gennus/ ) > * brozer (basics in french on http://www.genbecle.org/brozer/ ) > etc ... > > > Anyway, Ancestry.com is a major actor on the US market and it is good > to see that they provide a correct gedcom support. > > > regards, > Jérôme > > Le ven. 13 sept. 2013 at 14:47,Enno Borgsteede <enn...@gm...> a > écrit : >> Hi Jerome, >>> Note, when we look at help on ancestry.com[1], they are still >>> mixing >>> 'Family Tree Maker' and website, even for most questions about >>> gedcom file format. I suppose that gedcom file generated by >>> 'Family >>> Tree' is also supported by 'ancestry.com' and vice versa? >>> >>> >> I think so, yes, because ancestry.com is both producer of the >> software and the web sites. >>> Maybe we still need to keep them in mind for compatibility with >>> old >>> "MyFamily.com, Inc" 's products? >>> >>> >> Maybe yes. I have no idea about the number of old products still in >> use, but I don't see a reason to throw away support for formats, >> unless we really really are in need for a cleanup. >> >> For myself, I think it is important to distinguish the software >> products and the sites, because the impact they have for Gramps is >> different. I say that because: >> >> 1. In my language/research area there are not many users of >> Ancestry's software products I think, because most Dutch >> genealogists >> prefer other (local) products. Therefore, I don't expect to receive >> many GEDCOM files created by an FTM version. >> >> 2. From Gramps, I make regular uploads to Ancestry/Mundia, where I >> can merge information from other trees and records into my tree, >> and >> then download a GEDCOM with changes, that I like to merge into my >> Gramps database. >> >> Users in the US may receive more FTM files than I do, and there may >> also be some that move from FTM to Gramps, but I doubt that right >> now, because FTM can synchronize with Ancestry/Mundia, and Gramps >> can >> not. >> >> If the above is true for the world, the amount of imports in >> ancestry.com format will outnumber the amount of imports from FTM >> itself, and I could go even further, saying that users of modern >> FTM >> versions can use the built-in sync to upload their trees to >> Ancestry, >> and therefore also use the ancestry.com GEDCOM format to transfer >> to >> Gramps. >>> About localized versions, since 2/3 years they prefer supporting >>> swedish than french... >>> >>> >> Really? In the other sites menu at the bottom of the page, I still >> see France above Sverige. And as far as I can see, they don't >> forget >> the French speaking Canadians either, so ... >> >> regards, >> >> Enno >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT > 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT > 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=51271111&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |