From: Jérôme <rom...@ya...> - 2012-05-04 12:48:19
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Note, there is also a section on wiki (manual) about Search versus Filtering on Views: http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Manual_-_Main_Window#Filters http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Main_Window#Filters Doug Blank a écrit : > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Peter Kidd <pj...@gm...> wrote: >> Dear Jeff, >> >> Thanks for this. I can see how your method would work, but it seems >> like an extraordinarily complex way of doing one of the very simplest >> things one might want to do with a filter: find people with a >> particular name! (I find I hard to believe that GRAMPS has been in >> development for so long and that there is not a simpler way of doing >> this. There is, after all, already a filter field called "Name" -- >> it's just that it seems designed to filter on surname or forename but >> not both.) >> >> Can anyone else jump in with suggestions, or explain why this is not >> something that has come up before as a requested feature? > > The search functionality is a little confusing, and we want to clean > that up at some point. But you can easily do what you want. > > First, there are two different mechanisms for searching: the top bar > Search and the side/bottom bar Filter. The top bar Search only appears > when the entire sidebar is closed. You can close/open the > Sidebar/bottombar through menu -> View. > > Search and Filter work completely differently and it is useful to > understand these differences: > > Search - the top bar search looks through the database as it appears > in the rows and columns on the screen. For example, if you have the > Name Display in Preferences set to show "Surname, Given" then you can > match names as you originally tried with "Smith, J" and all of those > rows will match. But if you change the way that names are displayed > (in Preferences) then you will match that. The Search functionality > is probably the one you want to use most of the time, as it is most > straightforward, but has some limitations (see below). > > Filter - the side/bottom bar Filters use a more complex system. It is > not limited to what you see on the screen, but looks at the actual > data. The name search will try to match on any single name part > (given, surname, prefix, etc) of all names but appears to only match > one---you can't match part of given and part of surname as you were > first attempting. You can match surname, but not surname and given in > the same name. (If you Filter on "John", you will get matches of > people with firstname "John" but also those with surname "Johnson". > You just can't filter on combinations of first and lastnames, as you > were attempting). > > Some additional points: > > * The Filter will search alternative names too; Search only looks in > the primary name (the one showing). That is why if you do a Filter on > "Smith" you might see people listed that don't appear to match. But if > you edit that person's details, you might see that they have an > alternate name containing "smith". > > * You can open a bottom bar filter with top bar search, but that seems > buggy; best to use filters only in the sidebar. > > * The Filter allows "regular expressions". So you can find all of the > names that start with "B" and end in "ship": "B*ship". You can't do > that with the top bar Search. > > * The Search will only match what is visible. If a name or text is too > big to see in listing below topbar, then you won't find it. This is > something to keep in mind when Searching through Notes. Best to use > Filter for notes and other long text fields. > > Hope this helps! And I hope that we can integrate these two different > systems into one that can do it all. > > -Doug > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |