From: John R. <jr...@ce...> - 2010-10-05 05:00:26
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On Oct 3, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Tim Lyons wrote: > > > John Ralls-2 wrote: >> >> Yes, I can make a bundle. I have one already for Gramps 3.2.3. >> > > Note that the previous build did not work with Mac Os X 10.4.8, see: > http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/Gramps-on-Mac-PPC-now-available-td1814367.html#a1814370 > > I have since upgraded to 10.5 (actually 10.5.8), so you won't get any more > complaints about it not working on 10.4 from me. > > A quick run of the PPC binary on my 10.5.8 shows that it seems to load a > tree properly, though I have not actually tried using it. > > Also there were a number of issues back in Jul 2009: > Known issues: > (1) spell checker _still_ isn't working. > (2) drag-and-drop into any media gallery page has a high chance of > creating duplicate entries, getting the entry order wrong, or deleting > entries. Do not use drag-and-drop to put media into gallery pages! This > is probably critical for release. All other drag-and-drop seems to work OK. > (3) the export-archive wizard window doesn't close after the archive is > exported. This is a graphics bug, and the exported archive will be > correct. The workaround is to exit and restart gramps. > (4) I couldn't make it work in other than English, but others may have > more luck. It should work in all the supported languages. > > Have these been fixed? > Not consciously, since I didn't know about them until now. 1: There isn't a spell checker that works, unfortunately. The Gtk+ folks have isolated Gtk+ apps from OSX so that native helpers like spell checking and assistive technologies can't see inside Gtk applications. In order for a spell checker to work it would have to be a Gtk spell checker and included in the bundle. The same applies to assistive things like screen readers: VoiceOver doesn't work, one would have to arrange for Orca to work with Gramps. 2: Dragging and dropping seems to work fine, except that a dropped item goes next-to-last in the list rather than where one drags it to. Once in the list, it doesn't seem possible to grab items and drag them around to reorder them. Dunno if that's a Mac problem or just something that isn't implemented at all. It is something that Mac users tend to expect to be able to do. 3: It still doesn't go away, and Gramps crashes on shutdown if it's there when one quits Gramps. I don't think it's graphics: There's a likely-looking and untitled process that kill won't kill, but which goes away when Gramps quits. (It doesn't actually matter whether one finishes or cancels the export druid. Since druids work correctly on Gnucash, I'm sure this is fixable.) 4: The language detection needs some work. I was able to coerce it to work in German by exporting LANGUAGE=de in the launcher script. I know how to fix that, anyway. For the other issues on http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Mac_gtk-osx_port_bugs: Apple key conventions are fixed. Hebrew seems to work OK, though I didn't test it all that much, since I can't read Hebrew. It didn't crash, anyway. I did see some untranslated strings, and it's a bit disconcerting to have the labels on the right of the GtkEntries with which they're associated, and then the colons to the right of the labels. Where the labels were GtkListBoxes, the colons were to the left, between the GtkEntry and the GtkListBox. Hmm. I'm not sure I know what a "media gallery" is. Dragging and dropping to the media page (the one with the listview at the bottom and a single thumbnail above) seems to work OK, as noted in (2). Empty list and multiple items, no problem. But is that the right place? FWIW, I did get it to build in Tiger, but it crashed rather spectacularly after a very short time. I haven't started debuggeing that. It looks like it will take a bit more polishing before I'd be comfortable turning it loose on users. Regards, John Ralls |