Re: [Gramps-devel] DAR and DDR

[Nick H. <nic...@ho...>]

Doug Blank wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Peter Landgren <pet...@te...> wrote:
>   
>> Den Tuesday 10 August 2010 15.12.00 skrev Doug Blank:
>>     
>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Peter Landgren <pet...@te...> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Den Tuesday 10 August 2010 13.21.09 skrev Doug Blank:
>>>>         
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Peter Landgren <pet...@te...>
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found the two options:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Use callname for common name"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Use full dates instead of only the year"
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I don't know about the date option, but Name Formats now have an
>>>>>
>>>>> option that subsumes the first: you can define a Name Format that uses
>>>>>
>>>>> the callname if there is one, otherwise it uses the first part of the
>>>>>
>>>>> given name. It is called "Common" in the name format editor. So, I
>>>>>
>>>>> think you can remove the first option.
>>>>>           
>>>> No, I don't think so.
>>>>
>>>> By NOT using the callname option you get:
>>>>
>>>> 1. LANDGREN, Per Albin Henrik (Albin).
>>>>
>>>> Per Albin Henrik was born on 1867-03-11 in Skeppsholmen (AB)[1a,
>>>>
>>>> 2a]. He died on 1947-01-04 in Nacka (AB) at the age of 79
>>>>
>>>> By using the callname option you get:
>>>>
>>>> 1. LANDGREN, Per Albin Henrik (Albin).
>>>>
>>>> Albin was born on 1867-03-11 in Skeppsholmen (AB)[1a, 2a]. He died
>>>>
>>>> So this version looks better IMHO in stead of repeating all given names.
>>>>         
>>> I see. So this is really a choice between:
>>>
>>> ( ) use the full given name in text
>>> ( ) use the callname in text, if available
>>>       
>> Yes.
>>
>>     
>>> We could reuse the NameDisplay code here, by providing a Name Format
>>> Pattern for use in this place. That way we wouldn't duplicate this
>>> common name code, and give more flexibility to users. For example,
>>> people could also use the full name, initials, given name (callname),
>>> or any other variation defined by the name format code.
>>>       
>> I think it's a good idea make it more flexible.
>> So, in stead of a check box it would be a drop down menu with name format codes?
>>     
>
> That's one way. Another way would just make it a Text Entry, and let
> users type in the format directly, like "Given (Call)". That way, it
> can be created on the fly. (I'll look into seeing if that is even
> possible... it may be with the current system, it must be
> pre-defined.)
>   

A drop-down list of name formats would probably be better. The user 
would probably want to define a name format anyway, and I don't think 
that it would be unreasonable to require this.

It would also be easier to select from a list.

Nick.


> -Doug
>
>   
>> /Peter
>>
>>     
>>> -Doug
>>>
>>>       
>>>> /Peter
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> -Doug
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> a little bit confusing, see:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=4160
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I took a look at the full date option and it seems not to used
>>>>>> anywhere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's easy to fix within DAR and DDR, but most dates are handled by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> libnarrate.py, where it's not used. Not as far as I can see. I get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> identical results with and without this option checked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How was this full date option intended to work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Peter
>>>>>>             
>
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