Re: [Gramps-devel] release imminent, some PR

[jerome <rom...@ya...>]

Hi Frederico,

> It's the same with en_US and en_UK, fr_FR and fr_CN,

fr_CN ?
 :-\

=> fr_BE, fr_CA, fr_CH, fr_LU, fr_MC, fr_SN

Gramps supports most primary spoken languages (not only native) :

Mandarin Chinese, English, (missing) Hindi, Arabic (partial), Spanish, French, Russian, Portuguese (50 %) ...

Gramps-3.2 provides a partial portuguese translation and a partial date handler [1] !

True, it will be great if Gramps-3.2.1 could provide a better "Portuguese" support.

[1] http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=3708


Regards,
Jérôme

--- En date de : Lun 15.3.10, Frederico Muñoz <fs...@gm...> a écrit :

> De: Frederico Muñoz <fs...@gm...>
> Objet: Re: [Gramps-devel] release imminent, some PR
> À: "jerome" <rom...@ya...>
> Cc: "Gramps Development List" <gra...@li...>
> Date: Lundi 15 mars 2010, 22h52
> Hi Jerome,
> 
> 2010/3/15 jerome <rom...@ya...>:
> >> Oh dear, I'm afraid I'm doing it wrong then...
> what I did
> >> was to begin with "cp pt_BR.po pt_PT.po", and then
> point gtranslator to the pt_PT.po file...
> >
> > this could take a while until I understand ...
> >
> > OK, there is a "Brazilian Portuguese" translation, but
> unfortunately you only use "Portuguese from Portugal" !
> 
> Well, more or less. I wouldn't say "I only use Portuguese
> from
> Portugal". I use Portuguese from Portugal (aka Portuguese
> (Europe) )
> when it is available, and any other pt when it isn't..
> That's how the
> locales work: if a pt_PT is available it is used, if not
> whatever
> version exists (in this case, pt_BR) is used. It's the same
> with en_US
> and en_UK, fr_FR and fr_CN, es_ES and es_AR, etc.
> 
> What I'm doing is basically completing the pt translation,
> but since I
> use pt_PT I began by copying the pt_BR. I would say that
> 95% or more
> of my translation can be directly imported by the pt_BR
> team, and a
> sed script can take care of the rest (since mainly we are
> talking
> about some different words related to computer terms).
> 
> > You was asking if someone is making the update on
> Portuguese translation, right ?
> 
> No, not really :) I assume nobody is, since the file
> doesn't exist.
> 
> > Maybe :
> >
> > 1. rename pt_BR.po to pt.po
> > 2. change pt_BR (-> pt) set on configure.in
> 
> I'm not comfortable with naming my version simply "pt.po"
> when there
> is an already existing Portuguese translation. In most
> projects I
> worked there was a policy of "first language variant to add
> a language
> gets the spot". Actually, I'm not even sure why, in the
> absence of an
> existing pt.po file, the pt_BR.po file isn't simply pt.po.
> 
> In any event, if the pt_BR file is removed then that can
> change,
> however read below.
> 
> > Without update on pt_BR.po, next major release will
> remove portuguese translation (< 50%) ...
> 
> Yes, that's right. I'm on message 3910 of the 4826 that my
> po file
> has. This includes not only adding new strings, but also
> reviewing the
> existing fuzzy messages. My plan is to contact the
> previous
> translators - the ones mentioned on the pt_BR file - in
> order to make
> my work on it available. With some rather small changes I
> think that
> we could have a pt_BR file based on both the previous one
> and my own
> pt_PT version.
> 
> > Is there a lot of differences between Portuguese from
> Brazil and from Portugual ?
> 
> Well, that's a more loaded question than you think, there
> is some
> almost political angle to the answer, and you will get
> different
> answers. In any event I would say so, not in general,
> insofar as a
> newspaper is 99% the same, with the rest being small
> spelling
> differences. The main differences stem from some recent IT
> terms that
> ended up with different terms, since they are new. The vast
> majority
> of so differences are differences in terms of preference
> and usage,
> not language per se.
> 
> This being said we lose nothing by having something the
> closest to the
> expectations of both groups of speakers, while at the same
> time it is
> completely unnecessary to have different translation terms
> just by the
> sake of it. What generally happens is that translation
> teams operate
> separately and so one says "This operation will delete all
> data!" and
> the other "The existing data will be deleted by this
> operation!".
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Frederico
>