From: Gerald B. <ger...@gm...> - 2009-06-07 23:10:21
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Yes. Not worth arguing about. Gramps can already do all you want and more. >From what I can see Ms Mills has collected a set of what she considers to be "best practices." Perhaps they are but they are no more compelling than others. At any rate I see no need to do any special work in gramps to better conform with her view of genealogy. On 6/7/09, John <jh...@ea...> wrote: > Gerald Britton wrote: >> First of all, who is this EE person and in what sense is EE considered >> authoritative? Are we talking an ISO standard here or just someone's >> personal preference? Is it regarded as a reference by genealogical >> societies around the world? If so, who, specifically? Does the >> author work for the company that produces Legacy? >> >> Second, is the EE standard fully internationalized? Does it work >> equally well for non-latin alphabets? Is it internationally >> recognized and if so, by whom, _specifically_? >> >> Third, gramps is fully capable of producing a report in any format you >> like, with whatever punctuation you like anywhere. True, you might >> need to customize a canned report, but for this sort of thing it >> should be a relatively minor exercise. If all else fails, you can >> output to CSV, and import into your favorite spreadsheet to format it >> the way you like. > > You haven't drunk the kool aid yet! If you google the Internet for > "Elizabeth Shown Mills" and her book "Evidence Explained" you will > find a wealth of information covering all of the above topics described > by people with stronger credentials than mine (the strongest in the > genealogical field). :-) > >> Fourth, I take exception to your comment: >> >> "Also, Legacy 7 prompts the user for ESM type, and then prompts >> for all the required and optional fields. The "best" way for >> consistent entry." >> >> I'm not sure how much agreement you would get (especially here) that >> Legacy 7 represents the best way to do anything at all. It has an >> approach that works; so does gramps. Is one better than another? It >> depends upon who you ask. Are McIntosh apples better than Golden >> Delicious? > > All I was saying was that prompting for required and optional fields > is a sensible way to get consistency in source reference formats. > ad hoc input will give ad hoc results (generally inconsistent). Anyway, > certainly not a point worth arguing. > >> Finally, I haven't heard of too much demand for EE compliance in these >> hallowed halls. I've been using gramps for more than five years and a >> developer for the last two years. Today is the first time I have even >> heard of EE, let alone any demand for compliance with it. > > Maybe you need to "get out" more! ;-) > >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:43 PM, John<jh...@ea...> wrote: >>> Jérôme wrote: >>>>> Gramps has support for source types via the source name field. >>>> Previous urls shown by Benny : >>>> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.1_Wiki_Manual_-_Entering_and_Editing_Data:_Detailed_-_part_2#Editing_Information_About_Sources >>>> >>>> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.1_Wiki_Manual_-_Entering_and_Editing_Data:_Detailed_-_part_2#Editing_Source_References >>>> >>>> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sources_in_GRAMPS >>>> >>>> I do not know what is missing on fields ! >>> okay. A good start. But can these fields accurately reproduce >>> the output style in "Evidence Explained" by Elizabeth Shown Mills? >>> i.e. "correct" use of italics, double quotes, commas, colons, >>> parentheses, semicolons, etc.? >>> >>> Also, Legacy 7 prompts the user for ESM type, and then prompts >>> for all the required and optional fields. The "best" way for >>> consistent entry. >>> >>>> Gramps supports _EndNotes_ , which are used on *Detailled Reports* , >>>> *Individual Complet* Report and *NarrativeWeb* Report. >>> ESM has three styles: List (used for Bibliographies), Full Reference >>> (for first footnote or first endnote), Short Reference (for subsequent >>> footnotes or endnotes). >>> >>> More and more people are "demanding" this as knowledge of her work >>> expands. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>>> >>>> Jérôme >>>> >>>> >>>> Jérôme a écrit : >>>>> I suppose this resume is correct : >>>>> http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/2009/04/28/better-online-citations-details-part-1/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gerald Britton a écrit : >>>>>> Never heard of the concept. Could you please explain it a bit? >>>>>> >>>>>> Gramps has support for source types via the source name field. Is that >>>>>> what you mean? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/7/09, John <jh...@ea...> wrote: >>>>>>> Will gramps do Elizabeth Shown Mills source reference type >>>>>>> field prompting? (as in her book "Evidence Explained"). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If not, does anyone know when/if it will be added? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [I see that Legacy 7, Family Tree Maker 2009, RootsMagic 4, >>>>>>> The Master Genealogist - all only on Windoze :-( ] >>>>>>> ALL have it now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for >>>>>>> enterprises >>>>>>> looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the >>>>>>> latest >>>>>>> innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. 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