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From: TJMcK <tim...@gm...> - 2014-04-08 20:53:32
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Thanks all for your quick responses. I had ID#s hidden in the view, so that's why my rows were completely blank. And you are right in that the events are deleted with the person, and the citations-references, and attributes are NOT deleted. I will try and run the tool to see if this will help my situation -- as the hundred of blank lines are a bit of an annoyance (because of my large dbase). (I realize that I could create a filter, but filters slow down table rebuilds by about 2x -- so instead of 20 sec rebuild its a 45 sec view-table rebuild, not acceptable in my opinion.) -- View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/I-thought-deleting-people-was-easy-tp4665464p4665482.html Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2014-04-08 20:08:05
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Gramps users, Help make Gramps better! For the upcoming version 4.1 the data tab of the sources will be changed into a source attributes tab. The advantages: it behaves like the attributes you know from eg the person editor. So you can now reorder the fields, use custom types, ... We have not decided yet if for the source attributes we want to have predefined key fields or not. This is useful in giving new users ideas on how to use the attributes, and helps in the beginning to avoid errors in keys. Interaction with international users is also easier, as default attributes are translated in your own language. Therefore this question: *What keys do you use on the Data tab of source in current Gramps and would be fit for inclusion as default keys?* So which keys are you using already? Which ones of those do you think should be present in Gramps by default? We could then ship next Gramps with those keys predefined. My suggested default fields are based on the bibtex standard, and are details from what you would write in the Pub. Info field of the source editor: Book Title : If the source you create is in reality part of a collection, book, magazine, or journal Edition : in case there are several editions of the source Editor Publisher Pub. Date : Publication year Pub. Type : eg "Research Note", "{PhD} dissertation", "Magazine", ... Institution : The institution involved in creating the source (need not be the publisher) Volume : volume of a multi-volume work Do people use it for url to the source also? Source does not have an internet tab, so this might be the case. Greetings, Benny |
From: Josip <jo...@pi...> - 2014-04-08 17:57:15
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Dana 8.4.2014. 15:19, John Tea je napisao: > I will appreciate some help with the best way to enter people from way > back when family names were not the big thing they are today. Some > examples are: > > Catherine of Aragon, Princess of Wales as wife of Prince Arthur (heir > apparent to King Henry VII), subsequently Queen of England, 1st wife of > King Henry VIII > Given name is Catherine - no problem > But how to deal with 'of Aragon' ? > Her family name or dynasty was Trastámara, but nobody (in England at > least) knows her by that name, and it would be hard to find her without > knowing that name. > Each of her titles, Princess of Wales, Queen of England, can go in the > Description Field of an event type Nobility Title with a date. (Titles > were acquired generally by award, inheritance, marriage, conquest, > etc.) Is it advisable to put it instead or as well into the Title > Field? Many nobles had a string of titles. > > Richilde, Countess of Hainaut, also Countess of Mons, Countess of > Flanders, and later Regent of Flanders > Her family name is unknown. Her titles came through marriage. > > William II, Duke of Normandy and later became William I, King of England. > Known also as William the Conqueror and William the Bastard > I don't know of a family name, but in England he is considered the > founder of the Norman dynasty of Kings. In the absence of anything > else, his Family Name could be Norman - at least it would identify / > group his descendants - the downside would be his ancestry showing up as > Norman, just like everone else in Normandy. > > Geoffrey de Montbray, Bishop of Coutances > His family name is unknown. He came from the village of Montbay in > Normandy and for his services in the conquest was granted a large estate > and established the noble lineage of Montbray, soon after anglicised to > Mowbray. > Many people are named this way, so it would seem logical to use the name > of their originating place as the family name - but what about Catherine > of Aragon, above? > > If there is any experience and knowledge out there on how best to enter > these people in a consistent and logical way, I will very much > appreciate some help. > > Many thanks > John > [Given] = Catherine [Surname] = Trastámara [Primary] [Prefix] = of [Surname] = Aragon [Display as] Given Primary Rest It will show in Gramps as "Catherine Trastámara of Aragon", you can change "Display as" to any format. Maybe ad highest title in title fieald and other in surname with ", " as prefix If they have not surname do not invent one. Use only William as given name and set [Group as] + [override] as House of Normandy -- Josip |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2014-04-08 17:42:47
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John, > I will appreciate some help with the best way to enter people from way > back when family names were not the big thing they are today. Some > examples are: > > Catherine of Aragon, Princess of Wales as wife of Prince Arthur (heir > apparent to King Henry VII), subsequently Queen of England, 1st wife > of King Henry VIII > Given name is Catherine - no problem > But how to deal with 'of Aragon' ? Lots of genealogists have discussed issues like these, and some of these discussions can be found in newsgroups or on wiki like genealogy sites. And many English speaking genealogists choose 'of Aragon' as a last name. My personal opinion on that is that such is practical, but not right, because Aragon is in Spain now, and the proper full name, if based on origin should be Catalina de Aragón. That name also appears on her wikipedia page. > Her family name or dynasty was Trastámara, but nobody (in England at > least) knows her by that name, and it would be hard to find her > without knowing that name. Indeed. I never heard about that name, but the good thing is that in Gramps, you can easily add it, and choose what to display as the primary name. In your situation, I would probably use that, the Spanish name found on wikipedia, and the Anglicized version of it. And in my country it would be 'van Aragon' instead, because that's how she appeared in our history books. > Each of her titles, Princess of Wales, Queen of England, can go in the > Description Field of an event type Nobility Title with a date. > (Titles were acquired generally by award, inheritance, marriage, > conquest, etc.) Is it advisable to put it instead or as well into the > Title Field? Many nobles had a string of titles. For me, that depends on how it affects display, and my personal preference is to only put the most common one in the title field, and add the other ones as events. That's just to avoid messing up the displayed name, and is up to you. To see how other genealogists decided, you can look at http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Catherine_of_Aragon_%281%29 or http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Arag%C3%B3n-160 or pay sites like Geni.com. WeRelate.org can handle multiple names like Gramps, and WikiTree doesn't have that, so there names have to be squeezed in a small number of fields, sometimes leading to strange constructs there. Both sites often refer to wikipedia articles, which may help you decide. > Richilde, Countess of Hainaut, also Countess of Mons, Countess of > Flanders, and later Regent of Flanders > Her family name is unknown. Her titles came through marriage. Here too, of is Anglicized, so d'Hainaut would be more proper, or 'van Henegouwen' as far as Dutch was already used at the time. > William II, Duke of Normandy and later became William I, King of England. > Known also as William the Conqueror and William the Bastard > I don't know of a family name, but in England he is considered the > founder of the Norman dynasty of Kings. In the absence of anything > else, his Family Name could be Norman - at least it would identify / > group his descendants - the downside would be his ancestry showing up > as Norman, just like everone else in Normandy. I suggest you look for him on one of the sites mentioned above. Gramps can store multiple names, and filter on those too, like WeRelate.org, so you can add any name you like. > Geoffrey de Montbray, Bishop of Coutances > His family name is unknown. He came from the village of Montbay in > Normandy and for his services in the conquest was granted a large > estate and established the noble lineage of Montbray, soon after > anglicised to Mowbray. > Many people are named this way, so it would seem logical to use the > name of their originating place as the family name - but what about > Catherine of Aragon, above? > > If there is any experience and knowledge out there on how best to > enter these people in a consistent and logical way, I will very much > appreciate some help. In most cases, I prefer to use names based on originating place, or 'house' like Oranje-Nassau, Windsor, etc. House names are often documented on wikipedia too, and on official sites like: http://www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/TheRoyalFamilyname/Overview.aspx cheers, Enno |
From: Jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2014-04-08 15:12:52
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Sorry, the DBNotFoundError is specific to gramps 4.0.x (git)! As said on your bug reports[1][2], to run: - Rebuild Reference Maps - Rebuild Secondary Indices after your DB "check and repair", might be useful for such a "visual" issue (GUI and data). [1] https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=7590 [2] https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=7583 Le mar. 8 avril 2014 at 10:16, Jerome <rom...@ya...> a écrit : > OK, maybe it is related to last revisions (today/yesterday) on git... > > You are running '3.4.8-git', right? > > There is regressions according to some commits on git repository! > eg, one issue around: > > File "gramps/gen/db/write.py", line 1144, in __remove_reference > self.reference_map.delete(key, txn=txn) > DBNotFoundError: (-30987, 'DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair > found') > > is back on last revisions ... :( > > This might explain that you see blank lines (or a crash) via > gramps-git! >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/I-thought-deleting-people-was-easy-tp4665464.html >>> Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Put Bad Developers to Shame >>> Dominate Development with Jenkins Continuous Integration >>> Continuously Automate Build, Test & Deployment >>> Start a new project now. Try Jenkins in the cloud. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13600_Cloudbees >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gramps-users mailing list >>> Gra...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users >>> |
From: Jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2014-04-08 14:54:09
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True. This type of records is not supported yet. https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=7560 Not certain, it is "trivial" to develop it! Need some tests. Anyway, this is missing and maybe should be supported. Le mar. 8 avril 2014 at 10:16, paul womack <pw...@pa...> a écrit : > Jerome wrote: > >> Note, there is also a tool (Remove unused records), which should >> make the expected actions at a glance with more control than a >> global related records deletion. >> > This doesn't remove citations (I think the tool was written > pre-citation, and simply needs a slight extension) > > BugBear > |
From: John T. <j2...@ya...> - 2014-04-08 13:19:13
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I will appreciate some help with the best way to enter people from way back when family names were not the big thing they are today. Some examples are: Catherine of Aragon, Princess of Wales as wife of Prince Arthur (heir apparent to King Henry VII), subsequently Queen of England, 1st wife of King Henry VIII Given name is Catherine - no problem But how to deal with 'of Aragon' ? Her family name or dynasty was Trastámara, but nobody (in England at least) knows her by that name, and it would be hard to find her without knowing that name. Each of her titles, Princess of Wales, Queen of England, can go in the Description Field of an event type Nobility Title with a date. (Titles were acquired generally by award, inheritance, marriage, conquest, etc.) Is it advisable to put it instead or as well into the Title Field? Many nobles had a string of titles. Richilde, Countess of Hainaut, also Countess of Mons, Countess of Flanders, and later Regent of Flanders Her family name is unknown. Her titles came through marriage. William II, Duke of Normandy and later became William I, King of England. Known also as William the Conqueror and William the Bastard I don't know of a family name, but in England he is considered the founder of the Norman dynasty of Kings. In the absence of anything else, his Family Name could be Norman - at least it would identify / group his descendants - the downside would be his ancestry showing up as Norman, just like everone else in Normandy. Geoffrey de Montbray, Bishop of Coutances His family name is unknown. He came from the village of Montbay in Normandy and for his services in the conquest was granted a large estate and established the noble lineage of Montbray, soon after anglicised to Mowbray. Many people are named this way, so it would seem logical to use the name of their originating place as the family name - but what about Catherine of Aragon, above? If there is any experience and knowledge out there on how best to enter these people in a consistent and logical way, I will very much appreciate some help. Many thanks John |
From: Brad R. <br...@fi...> - 2014-04-08 09:18:52
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 22:27:47 -0700 (PDT) TJMcK <tim...@gm...> wrote: Hello TJMcK, I'm not sure why you're seeing blank lines in the People view. Are they truly blank, or are there IDs or other details showing? What happens when you click on one of those blank lines? >What I've been doing is just selecting (highlight) the line(s) that I >want to delete and click on the "remove" X icon. But, does this process Here it's a - (minus) sign, but yes, that deletes the person and only the person. >delete-remove all the events associated with a person? Is this why I'm No, events have to be deleted separately. Gramps has a tool that will do that for you. Go to Tools menu, Family Tree Repair -> Remove unused objects and run that. FYI, Gramps doesn't automatically delete ell events etc. associated with a person because if any of them are shared events the people remaining will have their copy of the event removed too. I suppose that remove unused objects /could/ be run during the delete person process (if the programming were changed) but it would slow the process considerably. Also, the principle of "do least damage" comes into play here. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" That's what I call you Heaven Sent - INXS |
From: Jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2014-04-08 08:17:15
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OK, maybe it is related to last revisions (today/yesterday) on git... You are running '3.4.8-git', right? There is regressions according to some commits on git repository! eg, one issue around: File "gramps/gen/db/write.py", line 1144, in __remove_reference self.reference_map.delete(key, txn=txn) DBNotFoundError: (-30987, 'DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found') is back on last revisions ... :( This might explain that you see blank lines (or a crash) via gramps-git! Le mar. 8 avril 2014 at 10:08, Jerome <rom...@ya...> a écrit : > Tim, > > What do you mean by blank lines? > Events or People? > > The design is like that, to remove a person, will only delete a > person! > > Into some translations, there is two different verbs when we remove a > record or when remove a link to a record. eg, into Editors, we often > remove a relation/reference to an other record, we do not remove this > record from the database. > > Do you really want to remove a person and related records with one > action? > If so, what about relationships (family, association, witness, etc > ...)? > What happen if you link an existing event to a person, then remove > this person because it was not the right one (homonym, etc...)? You > can store an event without knowing the person or family. Fact may > exist outside of known people! > > Note, there is also a tool (Remove unused records), which should make > the expected actions at a glance with more control than a global > related records deletion. > > > Jérôme > > > > Le mar. 8 avril 2014 at 7:27, TJMcK <tim...@gm...> a écrit : >> I've been using Gramps for years now, and suddenly I'm wondering if >> I know >> how to properly delete people. The reason I ask is that I'm getting >> all >> these blank lines in the "people" view. >> >> What I've been doing is just selecting (highlight) the line(s) that >> I want >> to delete and click on the "remove" X icon. But, does this process >> delete-remove all the events associated with a person? Is this why >> I'm >> getting the blank lines? Please don't tell me that I have to delete >> all the >> events and relationships associated with that person before I can >> "remove" a >> person... >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/I-thought-deleting-people-was-easy-tp4665464.html >> Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Put Bad Developers to Shame >> Dominate Development with Jenkins Continuous Integration >> Continuously Automate Build, Test & Deployment >> Start a new project now. Try Jenkins in the cloud. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13600_Cloudbees >> _______________________________________________ >> Gramps-users mailing list >> Gra...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users >> |
From: paul w. <pw...@pa...> - 2014-04-08 08:16:23
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Jerome wrote: > Note, there is also a tool (Remove unused records), which should make the expected actions at a glance with more control than a global related records deletion. This doesn't remove citations (I think the tool was written pre-citation, and simply needs a slight extension) BugBear |
From: paul w. <pw...@pa...> - 2014-04-08 08:15:46
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Jerome wrote: > Fact may exist outside of known people! As a concrete example, my DB includes a "Military" event, the sinking of HMS Hogue, 25/9/1914 It simply forms part of a timeline. BugBear |
From: Jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2014-04-08 08:09:58
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Tim, What do you mean by blank lines? Events or People? The design is like that, to remove a person, will only delete a person! Into some translations, there is two different verbs when we remove a record or when remove a link to a record. eg, into Editors, we often remove a relation/reference to an other record, we do not remove this record from the database. Do you really want to remove a person and related records with one action? If so, what about relationships (family, association, witness, etc ...)? What happen if you link an existing event to a person, then remove this person because it was not the right one (homonym, etc...)? You can store an event without knowing the person or family. Fact may exist outside of known people! Note, there is also a tool (Remove unused records), which should make the expected actions at a glance with more control than a global related records deletion. Jérôme Le mar. 8 avril 2014 at 7:27, TJMcK <tim...@gm...> a écrit : > I've been using Gramps for years now, and suddenly I'm wondering if I > know > how to properly delete people. The reason I ask is that I'm getting > all > these blank lines in the "people" view. > > What I've been doing is just selecting (highlight) the line(s) that I > want > to delete and click on the "remove" X icon. But, does this process > delete-remove all the events associated with a person? Is this why > I'm > getting the blank lines? Please don't tell me that I have to delete > all the > events and relationships associated with that person before I can > "remove" a > person... > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/I-thought-deleting-people-was-easy-tp4665464.html > Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Put Bad Developers to Shame > Dominate Development with Jenkins Continuous Integration > Continuously Automate Build, Test & Deployment > Start a new project now. Try Jenkins in the cloud. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13600_Cloudbees > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: TJMcK <tim...@gm...> - 2014-04-08 05:28:23
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I've been using Gramps for years now, and suddenly I'm wondering if I know how to properly delete people. The reason I ask is that I'm getting all these blank lines in the "people" view. What I've been doing is just selecting (highlight) the line(s) that I want to delete and click on the "remove" X icon. But, does this process delete-remove all the events associated with a person? Is this why I'm getting the blank lines? Please don't tell me that I have to delete all the events and relationships associated with that person before I can "remove" a person... -- View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/I-thought-deleting-people-was-easy-tp4665464.html Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2014-04-07 13:52:02
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Note that like common, you could do a feature request for another field in the display setting, that uses call if present, and first given name otherwise. Eg a callorgiven. Benny 2014-04-07 15:42 GMT+02:00 Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...>: > There is no conditional. However, there is the Common identifier, use that > instead of given. > Then the nickname is used if present. This is correct for your example, > Bob is a Nickname. Call is supposed to be used for multiple given names, to > indicate the used one. > > > > 2014-03-24 12:05 GMT+01:00 B Berteh <be...@ho...>: > >> Hello. >> >> First of all thanks for your nice piece of software I just discovered >> (have to start some day, right?). >> >> I'd like to display names in my family in a short form when it is >> available, but can find no way to get this done in the current preference > >> Display dialog. >> The example I think of is: if a "call" is given show it, otherwise show >> "given" instead, I'd like to use the pattern "Call?Call:Given Surname" >> (but any other pattern would do, of course!) so that an individual with >> the details below would simply show as "Bob Smith". >> >> Surname: Smith >> Call: Bob >> Given: Robert John Peter Allan Patrick Marius Jaques >> >> Is it possible and if yes: how? >> >> I looked on your mailing list and found only >> http://sourceforge.net/p/gramps/mailman/message/21868713/ ... but maybe >> I missed the point. >> >> Thanks for your answer, >> Berteh. >> >> >> PS: currently using GRAMPS: 3.4.0-1 (Python: 2.7.3) on Ubuntu. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book >> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their >> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, >> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech >> _______________________________________________ >> Gramps-users mailing list >> Gra...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users >> >> > |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2014-04-07 13:42:53
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There is no conditional. However, there is the Common identifier, use that instead of given. Then the nickname is used if present. This is correct for your example, Bob is a Nickname. Call is supposed to be used for multiple given names, to indicate the used one. 2014-03-24 12:05 GMT+01:00 B Berteh <be...@ho...>: > Hello. > > First of all thanks for your nice piece of software I just discovered > (have to start some day, right?). > > I'd like to display names in my family in a short form when it is > available, but can find no way to get this done in the current preference > > Display dialog. > The example I think of is: if a "call" is given show it, otherwise show > "given" instead, I'd like to use the pattern "Call?Call:Given Surname" > (but any other pattern would do, of course!) so that an individual with > the details below would simply show as "Bob Smith". > > Surname: Smith > Call: Bob > Given: Robert John Peter Allan Patrick Marius Jaques > > Is it possible and if yes: how? > > I looked on your mailing list and found only > http://sourceforge.net/p/gramps/mailman/message/21868713/ ... but maybe I > missed the point. > > Thanks for your answer, > Berteh. > > > PS: currently using GRAMPS: 3.4.0-1 (Python: 2.7.3) on Ubuntu. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: Nick H. <nic...@ho...> - 2014-04-06 18:25:59
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On 05/04/14 14:05, Enno Borgsteede wrote: > Once 14.04 is released, we may expect more support calls w.r.t. Gexiv2 > and osmgpsmap too. Installing gexiv2 for Ubuntu is easy: sudo apt-get install gir1.2-gexiv2-0.4 This works for Ubuntu 12.10 and later. For earlier versions you will have to build from source. Nick. |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2014-04-05 13:05:32
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Jerome, > Note, '4.0.3-3' is a generic .deb file hosted on sourceforge and > generated under ElementaryOS, which is based on[1] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS! > True, this .deb file is not specific to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. :( I can add that it doesn't even work on that. I tried this today, and on first try, I got a message that it refused to install because there was a newer version installed, which was the official repo one. After removing the official one, the software manager accepted to install, giving just a warning about a newer one in the repo, but failed in the end. That happened to the webapp version recommended by SF too. This applies to the Ubuntu daily build that I installed by the end of last week, and with this in mind, I agree that there's no sense in forcing any 4.0.3 deb file from SF on new users with 14.04. Once 14.04 is released, we may expect more support calls w.r.t. Gexiv2 and osmgpsmap too. regards, Enno |
From: Tony G. <tb...@xt...> - 2014-04-05 09:00:37
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On 05/04/14 17:54, Clive Sorrell wrote: > Hello. > In what order are the dates shown in Gramps entries, USA-style > (month/day/year) or rest-of-the-world style (day/month/year)? > Thanks. > Clive Clive You can set different date formats in Edit->Preferences->Display->Date format. Tony |
From: Jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2014-04-05 08:53:08
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Note, '4.0.3-3' is a generic .deb file hosted on sourceforge and generated under ElementaryOS, which is based on[1] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS! True, this .deb file is not specific to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. :( I guess that Dan was under Ubuntu 13.10 and made an upgrade? I do not have any idea of the reason for this release version check, otherwise. Yes, gramps '4.0.4' was planned for March 2014, when Ubuntu 14.04 was in alpha/beta stage. 'Black background'[2] has been fixed via an update on Ubuntu 14.04 around '03-29-2014' ! :) On the other hand, I suppose that we will no more use a generic name for .deb under Sourceforge! Ross pointed out that Debian would like signed releases, maybe this also mean more often update according to gramps releases? Agreed with devs to use a more 'pythonic' name. eg, on experimental .deb files[3]. I know that Linux distributions need to provide a safe, certified, tested, consistent set of libs and programs. In the past, I tested Fedora, OpenSuse, Ubuntu. They all have their own priorities. If Ubuntu 14.04 LTS complains about broken compatibility whith libc6 or whatever, then do not force installation for the .deb files hosted under Sourceforge, even this does not make sense because there is no real compilation for gramps under a python environment like into most linux distributions! //I am not writing that Ubuntu is not a linux distribution// Ubuntu is one of the best OS for thin client, like all Debian derived. If they move from "Linux Terminal Server Project" design to something more controled, then fine we can build .deb files for Debian only or can stop providing .deb files under Sourceforge. About '4.0.4' release, there is maybe still a blocking issue, specific to last git revisions. Something wrong but not very visible has been fixed on last revisions, now something more visible is raising[4]! => 7582: Cannot remove a person having an event reference. [1] http://elementaryos.org/journal/5-myths-about-elementary [2] https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=7502 [3] http://sourceforge.net/projects/gramps/files/Unstable/ [4] https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=7582 Jérôme Le ven. 4 avril 2014 at 9:22, Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> a écrit : > > > > 2014-04-03 23:45 GMT+02:00 Dan Garnitz <dan...@gm...>: >> WARNING WARNING >> Ubuntu 14.04 and Gramps 4.0.x - do not upgrade Gramps from Ubuntu >> repo if you are running 4.0.x, or let software updater do it. . >> >> UPDATED - Mar 31 ...... Please pay attention to Gramps update in new >> Ubuntu dist. >> >> The Ubuntu repo now has Gramps 4.0.3-1 compiled by Ubuntu for 14.04, >> while the latest version from Gramps is 4.0.3-3 .... In installing >> 14.04 the software updater installs the one from the repo (4.0.3-1) >> overwriting the 4.0 you have installed. You cannot upgrade Ubuntu >> Gramps 4.0.3-1 to Gramps 4.0.3-3 as gdeb reports a newer version is >> already installed ... >> > > You should be able to uninstall via software center, then install the > 4.0.3-3. > > Benny >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gramps-users mailing list >> Gra...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users >> >> > > |
From: Michael L. <mic...@pc...> - 2014-04-05 06:40:14
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 04:54:59 AM Clive Sorrell wrote: > Hello. > In what order are the dates shown in Gramps entries, USA-style > (month/day/year) or rest-of-the-world style (day/month/year)? Thanks. Dates should follow your locale. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia OPC Merther, St Breock & Egloshayle, Cornwall see http://www.cornwall-opc.org mic...@pc... ==== |
From: Clive S. <cl...@un...> - 2014-04-05 04:55:12
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Hello. In what order are the dates shown in Gramps entries, USA-style (month/day/year) or rest-of-the-world style (day/month/year)? Thanks. Clive |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2014-04-04 18:30:39
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Jerome, this must be an error somewhere in the .deb package. Normally our version should be recognized as more recent. Anyway, as 4.0.4 is near, this is not that important now. Benny 2014-04-04 13:41 GMT+02:00 Enno Borgsteede <enn...@gm...>: > Benny, > > You should be able to uninstall via software center, then install the > > 4.0.3-3. > True, but the annoying thing, as seen on alpha 2, is that the software > updater keeps trying to convince you to update to the older one from the > repo, every day. > > regards, > > Enno > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2014-04-04 11:41:30
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Benny, > You should be able to uninstall via software center, then install the > 4.0.3-3. True, but the annoying thing, as seen on alpha 2, is that the software updater keeps trying to convince you to update to the older one from the repo, every day. regards, Enno |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2014-04-04 07:22:43
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2014-04-03 23:45 GMT+02:00 Dan Garnitz <dan...@gm...>: > WARNING WARNING > Ubuntu 14.04 and Gramps 4.0.x - do not upgrade Gramps from Ubuntu repo if > you are running 4.0.x, or let software updater do it. . > > UPDATED - Mar 31 ...... Please pay attention to Gramps update in new > Ubuntu dist. > > The Ubuntu repo now has Gramps 4.0.3-1 compiled by Ubuntu for 14.04, while > the latest version from Gramps is 4.0.3-3 .... In installing 14.04 the > software updater installs the one from the repo (4.0.3-1) overwriting the > 4.0 you have installed. You cannot upgrade Ubuntu Gramps 4.0.3-1 to Gramps > 4.0.3-3 as gdeb reports a newer version is already installed ... > You should be able to uninstall via software center, then install the 4.0.3-3. Benny > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: Dan G. <dan...@gm...> - 2014-04-03 21:45:53
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WARNING WARNING Ubuntu 14.04 and Gramps 4.0.x - do not upgrade Gramps from Ubuntu repo if you are running 4.0.x, or let software updater do it. . UPDATED - Mar 31 ...... Please pay attention to Gramps update in new Ubuntu dist. The Ubuntu repo now has Gramps 4.0.3-1 compiled by Ubuntu for 14.04, while the latest version from Gramps is 4.0.3-3 .... In installing 14.04 the software updater installs the one from the repo (4.0.3-1) overwriting the 4.0 you have installed. You cannot upgrade Ubuntu Gramps 4.0.3-1 to Gramps 4.0.3-3 as gdeb reports a newer version is already installed ... |