Re: gnuplot with wxt on MacOS, time for decisions

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Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On 5/7/07, Ethan Merritt wrote:
>> On Monday 07 May 2007 11:02, Timothée Lecomte wrote:
>> > Dear gnuplot (especially on MacOS) enthusiasts,
>> > Dear Joe, Mojca, who tested wxt on MacOS since its early ages ;),
>> > Dear Nigel, whose remarks inspired me for this mail,
>> >
>> > I have worked a little more on wxt for MacOS this last days.
> Dear Timothée,
>
> Thanks a lot for all your effort.
>
> I really don't have any idea about the "dirty details" of
> implementation, so I might be the wrong person to ask about the
> opinion. But I'm still willing to test (and looking forward to the day
> when I will be able to use the working version of it :).

Your user's point of view makes a lot of sense !
>
>> Not really.  I think the prefered options are
>>
>> (4) Fix the upstream package in OSX
>>
>> It seems pointless to spend all that time re-arranging gnuplot only
>> to the benefit of gnuplot users.  The equivalent amount of work on
>> the OSX equivalent of the GTK layer would presumably benefit ports
>> of many other applications to OSX as well.
>
> I wouldn't object the improvement of native GTK handling on Mac (I
> would really like to see Mono working on Mac), but that's probably
> off-topic here and outside the scope ...

Note that there's no GTK involved here. wxMac uses Cocoa and Carbon, the 
native interfaces, directly.

>
>> (5) Use X11 + wxWidgets on OSX rather than the apparently broken
>> native OSX layer (that's possible, right?)
>
> If I had to use X11, I would prefer to stick with AquaTerm, even
> though it's functionality (esp. mouse) is limited. X11 is really the
> last resort to consider. (I never use this word, but X11 really
> "s*cks" on Mac.)
>
> It's as if one would suggest using wine for running gnuplot with
> windows interface on linux instead of using X11 or wxt.
>
> It really is important to have some native driver unless there is no
> other choice.

That's what I've understood. Besides, there's already a plotting program 
in MacOS X, called Grapher if I remember correctly. There would be 
little point in working on wxt if it was a complicated (for the user) 
solution using X11, compared to Aquaterm and Grapher.

> ---
>
> Thanks again for the marvellous work you do,
>    Mojca


Well, thank you for your answer !

Timothée