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Re: [Gnuplot-bugs] improved interpolation (smoothing)

[<pl...@pi...>]

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:56:11 +0200, Hans-Bernhard Bröker  
<HBB...@t-...> wrote:

> pl...@pi... wrote:
>
>> I think it would be very useful to add lanczos filter as an  
>> interpolation
>> method.
>
> So file it as a feature request.

Well I thought it best to sound the idea out here before taking the time  
to make feature request.
Should I take that sort of reply mean you think it may be a useful idea?


> But make sure you describe the
> background a bit more accurately:

So what is inaccurate?

>
>> The existing splines are fine but have a strong tendancy to extend
>> well outside the path of the existing data when the data has a lot of
>> fluctuations, a common situation.
>
> That's actually only true for csplines and acsplines, but not for any of
> the other filters.

That's why I said ***existing splines*** and not "any of the other  
filters."


>
>> Although the implementation is correct this can be very misleading
>> when viewing data presented with this sort of "smoothing".
>
> And how is that news?  *All* viewing of smoothed data is misleading,
> because it pretends you have smoother data than you actually do.  The
> only question is how the plot misleads the viewer, not if.

What is "news" is that one would expect a smoothing function to reduce the  
excursions from the local mean , not exagerate them. If smoother means  
reduced second differential it's smoother, but badly distorted. I'm not  
sure what real use this sort of smoothing is , it always makes my data  
look worse than the original and gives it a totally misleading form.  
Probably mainly useful for doing pseudo-science with misleading results.


How about dropping the smart, sarcastic tone in *All* your posts? It gets  
rather tiring.

Re: [Gnuplot-bugs] improved interpolation (smoothing)

[<HBB...@t-...>]

pl...@pi... wrote:

> I think it would be very useful to add lanczos filter as an interpolation  
> method. 

So file it as a feature request.  But make sure you describe the 
background a bit more accurately:

> The existing splines are fine but have a strong tendancy to extend  
> well outside the path of the existing data when the data has a lot of  
> fluctuations, a common situation. 

That's actually only true for csplines and acsplines, but not for any of 
the other filters.

> Although the implementation is correct this can be very misleading
> when viewing data presented with this sort of "smoothing".

And how is that news?  *All* viewing of smoothed data is misleading, 
because it pretends you have smoother data than you actually do.  The 
only question is how the plot misleads the viewer, not if.

[Gnuplot-bugs] improved interpolation (smoothing)

[<pl...@pi...>]

Hi,

I'll just throw this idea as a new topic since Daniel and Ethan are  
touching on this in the "Small technicality on dynarray" discussion but  
that thread is getting a bit long for me to add an /off.

I think it would be very useful to add lanczos filter as an interpolation  
method. The existing splines are fine but have a strong tendancy to extend  
well outside the path of the existing data when the data has a lot of  
fluctuations, a common situation. Although the implementation is correct  
this can be very misleading when viewing data presented with this sort of  
"smoothing". Far from averaging out variations it often exagerates  
excursions and can give a visual impression of oscillations that are not  
truely in the data.

Current devel version of Gimp contains such interpolation which is applied  
separatly in x and y and could probably be easily integrated into gnuplot.  
Each data point is derived from a weighted mean of 7 surrounding points in  
the source data using a precalculated look-up of the Lanczos function.

It effectively applies a windowed sinc function which provides a good  
quality lowpass filter, the technique is convolution with an approximation  
to the Fourrier transform of a step function in the frequency domain.

For example, the results on image processing make a better job of removing  
staircasing and pixelisation than the bicubic interpolation based on  
Catmull-Rom splines.

I can give more detail and precise reference to the source if you want to  
follow up the idea.

regards, Peter.

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just cleaning up my plot output for final version I notice some minor  
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Although the x11 terminal looks very clumbsy now against the new wxt there  
seems to be a couple of small errors that could be easily be corrected to  
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1/ in common with x11 , xticks and yticks : major ticks touch the box of  
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2/ Too much space between left of legend box and first text label. Legend  
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be useful. A space like top, bottom and RHS gaps would seem perfect. (x11  
was too tight, seems like zero space.)

3/ The x-axis label seems too close to the grey status bar on wxt. The  
spacing seems to be equal to the x11 layout which was fine because this  
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Re: [Gnuplot-bugs] trouble on make install

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:01:55 +0200, Hans-Bernhard Bröker  
<HBB...@t-...> wrote:

> pl...@pi... wrote:
>
>> I dont have tetex so I did:
>> ./configure  --without-tutorial
> That's not going to do it.  You need at least the makeinfo program of
> GNU texinfo.

OK , I no longer have emacs installed. I did make clean and ./configure  
--without-tutorial now ends with the following output:

gnuplot will install the following additional materials:

   lasergnu printer script: no (use --with-lasergnu to enable)
   gnuplot-mode for X/Emacs: yes
   LaTeX tutorial: no
   Help file: yes (always), in ${datarootdir}/gnuplot/4.3/gnuplot.gih
   PostScript prologue files: yes (always)


make install includes the following output:

make[1]: Entering directory `/svn/gnuplot/docs'
../mkinstalldirs /usr/local/share/gnuplot/4.3
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 gnuplot.gih  
/usr/local/share/gnuplot/4.3/gnuplot.gih
Creating texinfo
No emacs found - cannot create texinfo file

But this does raise an error , so looks like I'm OK. Seems to run in any  
case.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Hopefully I dont need emacs  
back, never used it but I dont know if it got pulled in as a dep. for  
something I use. Time will tell.

Thx.

Re: [Gnuplot-bugs] trouble on make install

[<pl...@pi...>]

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:46:14 +0200, Hans-Bernhard Bröker  
<HBB...@t-...> wrote:

> pl...@pi... wrote:
>
>> I currently have emacs-21.4 installed with the same options as follows:
>>
>> [ebuild  NS   ] app-editors/emacs-22.1
>
> Erm, which of them is it: 21.4 or 22.1?

Like I posted : I currently have emacs-21.4 installed *with the same  
options as* ...

"X alsa gif gtk jpeg png spell tiff xpm -Xaw3d -gzip-el -hesiod -lesstif  
-motif -sound -source -toolkit-scroll-bars"

>
>> Is there one of those build options that I need to turn on to make this
>> into a "working" emacs?
>
> How would I know?  I don't use the same Linux distribution you do.

Gentoo allows detailed choice where build options are available in the  
package source code. These normally reflect arguments fed to ./configure

None of those build options were obviously related to me, I thought you  
may recognise one of them as being relevant. You seemed fairly familiar  
with emacs from your last post, I was hoping it may make more sense to you.

To judge from your reply you're no wiser than I am.

Thanks for you reply.

Re: [Gnuplot-bugs] trouble on make install

[<HBB...@t-...>]

pl...@pi... wrote:

> I currently have emacs-21.4 installed with the same options as follows:
> 
> [ebuild  NS   ] app-editors/emacs-22.1  

Erm, which of them is it: 21.4 or 22.1?

> Is there one of those build options that I need to turn on to make this  
> into a "working" emacs?

How would I know?  I don't use the same Linux distribution you do.

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Re: [Gnuplot-bugs] trouble on make install

[<pl...@pi...>]

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:01:44 +0200, Hans-Bernhard Bröker  
<HBB...@t-...> wrote:

> pl...@pi... wrote:
>
>> Thx , I dont quite understand your reply. Are you saying
>> --without-tutorial is not enough?
>
> It might rather conceivably not be.  --without-tutorial only has any
> effect if you do have TeX installed.  If there's no TeX available,
> gnuplot won't try to build the tutorial anyway.
>
> I haven't kept the mail quoting the exact error, but there's one more
> potential, even likely candidate you may be missing: Emacs.  gnuplot
> uses an Emacs Lisp script (docs/doc2texi.el) to convert gnuplot.doc to a
> texinfo document.  If configure found a non-working 'emacs', that could
> generate the kind of symptoms you see.
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Thanks , good guess, that sounds like it could fit.

I currently have emacs-21.4 installed with the same options as follows:

[ebuild  NS   ] app-editors/emacs-22.1  USE="X alsa gif gtk jpeg png spell  
tiff
xpm -Xaw3d -gzip-el -hesiod -lesstif -motif -sound -source  
-toolkit-scroll-bars"

Is there one of those build options that I need to turn on to make this  
into a "working" emacs?

TIA.

Re: [Gnuplot-bugs] trouble on make install

[<HBB...@t-...>]

pl...@pi... wrote:

> Thx , I dont quite understand your reply. Are you saying  
> --without-tutorial is not enough?

It might rather conceivably not be.  --without-tutorial only has any 
effect if you do have TeX installed.  If there's no TeX available, 
gnuplot won't try to build the tutorial anyway.

I haven't kept the mail quoting the exact error, but there's one more 
potential, even likely candidate you may be missing: Emacs.  gnuplot 
uses an Emacs Lisp script (docs/doc2texi.el) to convert gnuplot.doc to a 
texinfo document.  If configure found a non-working 'emacs', that could 
generate the kind of symptoms you see.

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Re: [Gnuplot-bugs] trouble on make install

[<pl...@pi...>]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:01:55 +0200, Hans-Bernhard Bröker  
<HBB...@t-...> wrote:

> pl...@pi... wrote:
>
>> I dont have tetex so I did:
>> ./configure  --without-tutorial
>
> That's not going to do it.  You need at least the makeinfo program of
> GNU texinfo.
>

Thx , I dont quite understand your reply. Are you saying  
--without-tutorial is not enough?

I do have sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5 installed.

If the error makes sense to you , could you be more explicit about what I  
need to do or where to look to find out.

Thanks a lot.