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From: Lars H. <lhe...@us...> - 2006-05-12 08:42:32
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All documentation and web pagess need to be updated - CVSROOT is changing for general access (but not developer cvs access, if I interpret this correctly - pserver vs. ext). ----- Forwarded message from "SourceForge.net Team" <no...@so...> ----- From: "SourceForge.net Team" <no...@so...> Subject: SUBJECT: SourceForge.net: CVS service offering changes Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Greetings, You are receiving this mail because you are a project admin for a SourceForge.net-hosted project. One of our primary services, CVS, suffered a series of interrelated, critical hardware failures in recent weeks. We understand how frustrating this CVS outage must be to you and your users; however, our top priority remains preservation of the integrity of your data. The series of CVS hardware failures prompted us to expedite the deployment of planed improvements to our CVS infrastructure, drawing upon much of the knowledge that we gained from our Subversion deployment. Our improved CVS service architecture, which we plan to deploy tomorrow afternoon (2006-05-12), will offer greater performance and stability and will eliminate several single points of failure. The Site Status page (https://www.sf.net/docs/A04) will be updated as soon as the new infrastructure is rolled out. In the interim, please read the important information provided below to learn about how these changes will affect your project. Summary of changes, effective 2006-05-12: 1. Hostname for CVS service Old: cvs.sourceforge.net New: PROJECT_UNIX_NAME.cvs.sourceforge.net This change will require new working copies to be checked out of all repositories (so control files in the working copy will point to the right place). We will be updating the instructions we supply, but instructions that your team has written within documentation, etc. will need to be updated. cvs -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/gaim co gaim would be changed to cvs -d:pserver:ano...@ga...:/cvsroot/gaim co gaim 2. ViewCVS We are moving from ViewCVS to its successor, ViewVC. ViewVC is currently in use for our Subversion service. 3. Sync delay Old: CVS pserver, tarballs and ViewCVS provided against a separate server which is a minimum of three hours behind developer CVS. New: ViewVC will be provided against developer CVS (it will be current). CVS pserver will be provided against a secondary server (not developer server) with a maximum expected delay of two hours. Follow-up work is planned (this infrastructure takes us 80% of the way) to essentially eliminate the sync delay. 4. Read-only rsync service As a new service offering, we are now providing read-only rsync access against developer CVS. This allows projects to efficiently make on-demand backups of their entire CVS repository. All projects should be making regular backups of their CVS repository contents using this service. 5. Nightly tarball service Nightly tarball service is being dropped in lieu of read-only rsync service. Projects which currently depend on nightly tarballs for repository backups will need to begin using rsync to make a backup copy of their repository contents. We see this as a major functional improvement. For a number of reasons, tarballs have fallen out of sync with the data in the repository at times in the past few years. Tarballs required a substantial amount of additional disk, and I/O to generate. The move to read-only rsync allows backups to be produced on-demand, with an update frequency chosen by the project. 6. Points of failure In the past, developer CVS service for all projects was provided from a single host. CVS pserver service was provided from individual backend heads based on a split of the data. Under our new design, developer CVS and most of our CVS-related services are provided from one of ten CVS hosts (count subject to increase with growth). Each host is independent, and makes a backup copy of the repository data of another host (which is used to provide the pserver CVS service). Failure of a single host will impact only the availability of data on that host. Since the data is split among a larger number of hosts, the size of data impacted by an individual host outage is substantially smaller, and the time required for us to restore service will be substantially shorter. This rapid architecture change has been made possible specifically using the research we performed for our recent launch of Subversion service. We've applied our best practices, produced a substantial amount of internal documentation, and kept an eye toward maintainability. This effort has allowed us to deploy this new architecture quickly once hardware was received, and will permit us to quickly scale this service horizontally as growth and demand requires. Many other minor improvements have also been made to improve the service offering and make it less trouble-prone. The most important of which are listed above. For a full description of the new service offering, and for information on how to use the services described above, please refer to the site documentation for the CVS service after the service has been launched: https://www.sf.net/docs/E04 Thank you, The SourceForge.net Team . ----- End forwarded message ----- |
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<br...@ph...> - 2006-05-12 14:37:02
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Lars Hecking wrote: > All documentation and web pagess need to be updated - CVSROOT is changing > for general access (but not developer cvs access, if I interpret this > correctly - pserver vs. ext). Yep. They're basically taking back the change from virtual hosts per project to a single host they did a while ago. So we now have a per-project host name again. We'll also all have to update our working directories to reflect this, again. SF only mentions scrapping your working copy and checking out fresh. You may want to give the cvsutils package a try instead. It contains a nifty little tool "cvschroot" to do this. Or, if you're more adventurous, just edit the CVS/Root files manually. |
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From: Aapo L. <aap...@gm...> - 2006-05-22 16:38:31
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On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 16:39 +0200, Hans-Bernhard Bröker wrote: > We'll also all have to update our working directories to reflect this, > again. SF only mentions scrapping your working copy and checking out > fresh. You may want to give the cvsutils package a try instead. It > contains a nifty little tool "cvschroot" to do this. Or, if you're more > adventurous, just edit the CVS/Root files manually. The following BASH one-liner (run in my local gnuplot working copy directory) worked for me; however, YMMV: for i in `find . -iname Root | grep CVS`; do mv $i $i.old; sed -e 's/cvs\.sourceforge/gnuplot\.cvs.sourceforge/' $i.old >$i; done Best Regards, Aapo Lankinen |
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From: Mojca M. <moj...@gm...> - 2006-05-22 16:51:23
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Some other projects on sourceforge switched to SVN. Would this be the solution to non-working CVS perhaps? Mojca |
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From: Ethan M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2006-05-22 18:43:42
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On Monday 22 May 2006 09:44 am, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Some other projects on sourceforge switched to SVN. Would this be the > solution to non-working CVS perhaps? As I understand it, the SourceForge problems have been hardware failures. I don't think it has anything to do with whether the disk arrays that died happened to contain cvs or svn files. -- Ethan A Merritt Biomolecular Structure Center University of Washington, Seattle WA |
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<br...@ph...> - 2006-05-22 20:04:48
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Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Some other projects on sourceforge switched to SVN. Would this be the > solution to non-working CVS perhaps? I really don't think so. SVN has its merits, sure, but I don't see us needing any of those badly enough to migrate just like that. |
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From: Petr M. <mi...@ph...> - 2006-05-12 15:02:07
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> All documentation and web pagess need to be updated - CVSROOT is changing > for general access I've updated gnuplot.sf.net; www.gnuplot.info should be mirrored soon. --- PM |
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From: Lars H. <lhe...@us...> - 2006-05-17 13:42:07
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> Yep. They're basically taking back the change from virtual hosts per > project to a single host they did a while ago. So we now have a > per-project host name again. I keep getting regular "connection refused" message when I try to do cvs operations. Couldn't get it to work at all yesterday, and this morning I managed to check out the tree with the new root. However, it's back to "connection refused" now. Is anyone else seeing this? |
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From: Petr M. <mi...@ph...> - 2006-05-17 13:49:34
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> I keep getting regular "connection refused" message when I try to do cvs > operations. Couldn't get it to work at all yesterday, and this morning I > managed to check out the tree with the new root. However, it's back to > "connection refused" now. Is anyone else seeing this? Same for me now. --- PM |
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From: Lars H. <lhe...@us...> - 2006-05-17 14:10:57
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> Same for me now. Good. Then it's not our IT department doing stupid things ... |
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<br...@ph...> - 2006-05-17 20:58:13
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Lars Hecking wrote: >> Yep. They're basically taking back the change from virtual hosts per >> project to a single host they did a while ago. So we now have a >> per-project host name again. > > I keep getting regular "connection refused" message when I try to do cvs > operations. See their 'Site Status'. They've apparently had a CVS server crash, again. |
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From: Ethan M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2006-05-17 21:08:18
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On Wednesday 17 May 2006 01:57 pm, Hans-Bernhard Br=F6ker wrote: > Lars Hecking wrote: > > > > I keep getting regular "connection refused" message when I try to > > do cvs operations. > > See their 'Site Status'. They've apparently had a CVS server crash, > again. Heh. I'm having the opposite set of problems. I can see and use the cvs server just fine. It's the web site (including the status page) that is non-responsive. =2D-=20 Ethan A Merritt Biomolecular Structure Center University of Washington, Seattle WA |