fvwm-themes-devel — Developing FVWM Themes

Color schemes (was: Re: Two fvwm-themes related pages)

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

On 27 Dec 2002 10:47:18 +1100, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 04:33:07AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > I accidentally came to this page:
> > 
> >   http://katspace.net/tools/col_scheme/index.shtml
> > 
> > It has an fvwm-themes theme plainbox (6 components, some components are
> > similar to @default). I would not call it the most pretty, but ok. :)
> 
> Ah well, at least it is not ugly...
> It is very plain...
> But I actually prefer using vector buttons to using button images,
> that's one of the things I like about fvwm.

I like vector buttons myself, but vector drawing is not perfect and may
look crooked for some button sizes. Button images may be very nice and
they are not limited to 2-3 colors. Of course then they are harder to
follow the color scheme.

> Thanks for letting me know.
>  
> > It even has a way to use color schemes, but it is external to fvwm-themes.
> 
> Yeah, I wanted something that wasn't window-manager specific, really,
> so that I could use it across different WMs, once I figured out how they
> were configured.

This is fine with me. I may link to your page, so you get more visitors.
But of course I personally prefer the fvwm-themes-images direction and
component options for color schemes.

> > There is a classical problem, a grayed image (say xpm with only 3-4 colors
> > that are shadow/hilight/bg/transparent) that should be applied under
> > some colorset, i.e. xpm image should have 3 colors from this colorset.
> > I think CDE solved this by using symbolic names like topShadowColor.
> > It may be solved with vector drawing (that is applied under colorset)
> > instead of xpm image, but this requires absolute positions including
> > negative ones. So probably this is not very usable here yet.
> 
> I'm not sure I follow this.

I said that currently you regenerate all colors and 2 title bar images.
I tried to think how not to regenerate these 2 images.

> Actually, in an earlier incarnation of my colour-scheme stuff, I *was*
> using XPM files with symbolic names for the colours in them, and then
> using m4 macros to substitute the symbolic names for real names, but it
> was such a pain creating the initial pseudo-xpm files, that it was with
> great relief that I started using ImageMagick's colourize facility on
> any ol' image file instead.
> 
> Of course the limitation of colourize is that you can only tint the
> image one particular colour.

Yes, "convert -colorize" is pretty unusable for me. "fvwm-themes-images
--colorize" is much more usable, but works for xpms only.

> > I suppose png format can't help to solve this color scheme problem.
> 
> I don't think so, apart from doing as I do above, with the limitations
> that entails.

I suppose this refers to the sentence quoted below, not the one above.
Yes, tinting is a bad solution for color schemes, because it basically
reduces image contrast, instead of just rotating colors.

> > But TitleStyle Colorset with tinting should be a good solution here.
> > 
> > There are FvwmErrorHandler internal errors (56, 13, 12) and (128, 4, 12)
> > every time a menu is used with this theme, but I can't check this now.
> 
> Oh.  I hadn't noticed.  I don't know what I would be doing wrong...

I didn't mean you should solve this. Such errors is a bug in fvwm.

> > If only it would be in fvwm-themes format originally... :)
> 
> Talking of formats, that reminds me... do you know if anyone at all is
> interested in packaging fvwm-themes for Debian?

Several people were interested. I will start a new thread about this.

> > I think I will convert some more decorations. And it seems we already need
> > to think about title multi-colorsets now (I though to postpone this to
> > 0.7.1). For each such theme there may be one base colors configuration and
> > several color options that are just several Colorset Tint commands each.
> > The problem is that I am pretty overloaded now, so unless someone else
> > helps here, this idea should wait for 0.7.1.
> 
> ???

I meant, now when we have multi-colorset in titlebar, we may use colorsets
then Tint them, but unfortunately tinting is a bad idea for color schemes.
From your page it seems that hue is a good idea. I actually meant to use
hue, not tinting, but I was not familar with the exact term. I always used
xv to rotate colors. But now I see that "convert -modulate 100,100,55"
does it just fine. And any graphical color selector shows a color hue too.
I think, we may support color rotation (hue) in fvwm-themes-images,
the current --colorize only works for grayed images loosing any saturation.

And I would _really_ like to have HueOffset (or HueRotation) in colorsets,
not just Tint. A value of 0 (or 360) would mean no color rotation.
This would add a lot of fully qualitative color schemes to any decor.

Regards,
Mikhael.

Re: Two fvwm-themes related pages

[Kathryn A. <ka...@ka...>]

On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 04:33:07AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> I accidentally came to this page:
> 
>   http://katspace.net/tools/col_scheme/index.shtml
> 
> It has an fvwm-themes theme plainbox (6 components, some components are
> similar to @default). I would not call it the most pretty, but ok. :)

Ah well, at least it is not ugly...
It is very plain...
But I actually prefer using vector buttons to using button images,
that's one of the things I like about fvwm.

Thanks for letting me know.
 
> It even has a way to use color schemes, but it is external to fvwm-themes.

Yeah, I wanted something that wasn't window-manager specific, really,
so that I could use it across different WMs, once I figured out how they
were configured.

> There is a classical problem, a grayed image (say xpm with only 3-4 colors
> that are shadow/hilight/bg/transparent) that should be applied under
> some colorset, i.e. xpm image should have 3 colors from this colorset.
> I think CDE solved this by using symbolic names like topShadowColor.
> It may be solved with vector drawing (that is applied under colorset)
> instead of xpm image, but this requires absolute positions including
> negative ones. So probably this is not very usable here yet.

I'm not sure I follow this.

Actually, in an earlier incarnation of my colour-scheme stuff, I *was*
using XPM files with symbolic names for the colours in them, and then
using m4 macros to substitute the symbolic names for real names, but it
was such a pain creating the initial pseudo-xpm files, that it was with
great relief that I started using ImageMagick's colourize facility on
any ol' image file instead.

Of course the limitation of colourize is that you can only tint the
image one particular colour.
 
> I suppose png format can't help to solve this color scheme problem.

I don't think so, apart from doing as I do above, with the limitations
that entails.

> But TitleStyle Colorset with tinting should be a good solution here.
> 
> There are FvwmErrorHandler internal errors (56, 13, 12) and (128, 4, 12)
> every time a menu is used with this theme, but I can't check this now.

Oh.  I hadn't noticed.  I don't know what I would be doing wrong...
 
> If only it would be in fvwm-themes format originally... :)

Talking of formats, that reminds me... do you know if anyone at all is
interested in packaging fvwm-themes for Debian?
 
> I think I will convert some more decorations. And it seems we already need
> to think about title multi-colorsets now (I though to postpone this to
> 0.7.1). For each such theme there may be one base colors configuration and
> several color options that are just several Colorset Tint commands each.
> The problem is that I am pretty overloaded now, so unless someone else
> helps here, this idea should wait for 0.7.1.

???

(BTW if you want to pass this on to the fvwm-themes list, please do)

Kathryn Andersen
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because
it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs.
	(from the .sig of AM...@un... (Mark Hall))

 _--_|\	   | Kathryn Andersen	<ka...@ka...> <http://www.katspace.com>
/      \   |
\_.--.*/   | GenFicCrit mailing list <http://www.katspace.com/gen_fic_crit/>
      v	   | 
-----------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere
Maranatha! |	-> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

DefaultFont in themes

[S. A. <sa...@xm...>]

I would like to define a font for the resize/move feedback window in my
theme.

What file should I put DefaultFont settings? I tried to grep through the
other themes, but I didnt get any results.

any suggestions?

cya,
sa

Re: Things to do for 0.7.0

[S. A. <sa...@xm...>]

On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 01:37:09AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> Shawn, I expect you to add colors and possibly modules components to your
> theme. I hope you know how to do "cvs add" and "cvs commit". You may
> complete colors in steps, first initial 15 colorsets, then after
> experiments - correct/add other colorsets. Modules are the most complex
> component if to do it very configurable. It is possible to minimize the
> number of files and to do it like in Minimal theme. Anyway, without
> accustomed modules you will not feel at home.
> 
Im working on these things. hopefully they will be comitted soon.

I will try do help with some of other things you listed also.

cya,
sa

Two fvwm-themes related pages

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

I accidentally came to this page:

  http://katspace.net/tools/col_scheme/index.shtml

It has an fvwm-themes theme plainbox (6 components, some components are
similar to @default). I would not call it the most pretty, but ok. :)

It even has a way to use color schemes, but it is external to fvwm-themes.
There is a classical problem, a grayed image (say xpm with only 3-4 colors
that are shadow/hilight/bg/transparent) that should be applied under
some colorset, i.e. xpm image should have 3 colors from this colorset.
I think CDE solved this by using symbolic names like topShadowColor.
It may be solved with vector drawing (that is applied under colorset)
instead of xpm image, but this requires absolute positions including
negative ones. So probably this is not very usable here yet.

I suppose png format can't help to solve this color scheme problem.
But TitleStyle Colorset with tinting should be a good solution here.

There are FvwmErrorHandler internal errors (56, 13, 12) and (128, 4, 12)
every time a menu is used with this theme, but I can't check this now.

-..-

The following page looks even more wonderful since my last visit:

  http://www.igs.net/~tril/fvwm/configs/fvwm-theme/

If only it would be in fvwm-themes format originally... :)

I think I will convert some more decorations. And it seems we already need
to think about title multi-colorsets now (I though to postpone this to
0.7.1). For each such theme there may be one base colors configuration and
several color options that are just several Colorset Tint commands each.
The problem is that I am pretty overloaded now, so unless someone else
helps here, this idea should wait for 0.7.1.

Regards,
Mikhael.

Things to do for 0.7.0

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

Shawn, I expect you to add colors and possibly modules components to your
theme. I hope you know how to do "cvs add" and "cvs commit". You may
complete colors in steps, first initial 15 colorsets, then after
experiments - correct/add other colorsets. Modules are the most complex
component if to do it very configurable. It is possible to minimize the
number of files and to do it like in Minimal theme. Anyway, without
accustomed modules you will not feel at home.

Other tasks to do:

* Transparent theme. I don't know how configurable it should be.
Either everything possible is transparent including menus, modules and
decorations or only some parts by a user choice. Not sure yet. [Mikhael?]

* Solve somehow a problem of RootTransparency not working by default.
This is very inconvenient. The problem here is that if you have .jpg
background neither fvwm-root nor Esetroot (at least my version) can't
load it. So you may only have Transparent, never RootTransparent.
We should find a solution for this. Maybe RootTransparent may become
Transparent (if not root image is available or it is too old). Currently
RootTransparent does crazy things, gets an old image or random colors.
Another possibility is to add SmartTransparent, or to have just one
Transparent that first tries to be RootTransparent. [Olivier?]

* fvwm-themes-images should support --setroot of .gif and .jpg images by
finding the best tool available (xv, display). Moreover, it should support
--colorize too, probably by converting an image to xpm first.
[Mikhael or Olivier]

* Improve Awol theme. [Alex]

* Improve/remove all not nice things we have. We have enough nice things
to discontinue all ugly ones. [Mikhael and others]

* Users didn't like modules in OSX, except for the top panel.
Shawn, can you design something (probably completely) different that is
more in the spirit of MacOS X? If no, I think the default should be not
to show modules at the bottom.

* Images for RedmondXP panel should be transparent when possible.
I.e. they should not include the blue gradient-like background.
I tried to make a separator in PNG using alpha channel so that it is
possible to apply it to any background (not just blue gradient),
but it is not as nice as the non-transparent one. I am not an artist.
Shawn, can you help here? Basically all non-transparent images should be
converted to transparent except for the real background.

* Add support for gkrellm in modules? Maybe I will add it to RedmondXP.
Not urgent for 0.7.0 at all.

* Someone should create a lot of nice screenshots replacing or adding to
the existing ones. I may help. Shawn? :)

* I will do all releasing work for 0.7.0, tarballs/rpms.

Comments please.

Regards,
Mikhael.

Re: theme submission

[S. A. <sa...@xm...>]

On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 03:05:17AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> On 20 Dec 2002 19:04:57 -0700, S. Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:59:17AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > > On 18 Dec 2002 21:51:14 -0700, S. Anderson wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > attached is a theme I made for fvwm-themes 0.6.2(cvs), im not sure
> > > > if its completely correct. It looks pretty good with the
> > > > buttons/windowlook of this theme and the colors of other themes...
> > > 
> > > Thanks. Renders pretty interestingly with other colors.
> > > Should it be named "tile" all letters lower cased?
> > 
> > yes, i dont know what else to name it :-)
> 
> You may choose any word, even a non directly related, like Puzzle or
> Domino or Freshy. Giving it a name of your cat is also fine.
> 
> I need the final name ASAP if not "tile".
> 
ok, just name it "sa" :-) tile is not so good.

cya
sa

Re: theme submission

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

On 20 Dec 2002 19:04:57 -0700, S. Anderson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:59:17AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > On 18 Dec 2002 21:51:14 -0700, S. Anderson wrote:
> > > 
> > > attached is a theme I made for fvwm-themes 0.6.2(cvs), im not sure
> > > if its completely correct. It looks pretty good with the
> > > buttons/windowlook of this theme and the colors of other themes...
> > 
> > Thanks. Renders pretty interestingly with other colors.
> > Should it be named "tile" all letters lower cased?
> 
> yes, i dont know what else to name it :-)

You may choose any word, even a non directly related, like Puzzle or
Domino or Freshy. Giving it a name of your cat is also fine.

I need the final name ASAP if not "tile".

> > There are some things (almost in every component) that are not very
> > standard and should be solved. I will take a look later.
> > 
> > > fvwm-themes is neat :-)
> > > 
> > > feel free to do whatever you want with it.
> > 
> > If it is neat enough for you to use on a daily basis, you may get cvs
> > access and maintain your themes yourself. Just create a SF user.
> 
> that sounds fun, I created a SF user "nosrednas".

Ok, I added you. You should recheckout before commiting.
You may also want to checkout fvwm-themes-web, so you may add screenshots
and other things to the web directly. It is updated every 3 hours.

Just please wait until I add a more corrected version of your theme. I
will not add colors-decors, because it is hopeless. colors-decors should
only define 4 colorsets currently, 1 to 4, not colorsets 0 or 5. Please
create a full colors@ component instead as described in doc/colorsets.
This component should only use images from decor/, menuback/ and modcolor/
subdirectories of theme/images/, see other themes and theme.cfg.

Regards,
Mikhael.

Re: theme submission

[S. A. <sa...@xm...>]

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:59:17AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> On 18 Dec 2002 21:51:14 -0700, S. Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > attached is a theme I made for fvwm-themes 0.6.2(cvs), im not sure
> > if its completely correct. It looks pretty good with the
> > buttons/windowlook of this theme and the colors of other themes...
> 
> Thanks. Renders pretty interestingly with other colors.
> Should it be named "tile" all letters lower cased?
> 

yes, i dont know what else to name it :-)

> There are some things (almost in every component) that are not very
> standard and should be solved. I will take a look later.
> 
> > fvwm-themes is neat :-)
> > 
> > feel free to do whatever you want with it.
> 
> If it is neat enough for you to use on a daily basis, you may get cvs
> access and maintain your themes yourself. Just create a SF user.
> 

that sounds fun, I created a SF user "nosrednas".

cya,
sa

Re: working on new features

[Alex W. <aw...@pr...>]

Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> 
> I have created a stable branch-0_6 in case we will ever want 0.6.3.
> Now, we may start to use 2.5.x features for the future 0.7.0 release.

Kewl!  :)
> 
> Alex, you sent mixNmatch theme that I didn't try yet.
> If you have an updated version (and Awol too), send it.
> 
I'd almost forgotten about mixNmatch and haven't even looked at it
myself in quite awhile. It appears recent changes to the colorset code
mean some tweaking is required. I'll get on it and post a url for both
themes real soon.

Alex

-- 
`When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just
stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for
free*".'
(By Linus Torvalds)

working on new features

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

I have created a stable branch-0_6 in case we will ever want 0.6.3.
Now, we may start to use 2.5.x features for the future 0.7.0 release.

Alex, you sent mixNmatch theme that I didn't try yet.
If you have an updated version (and Awol too), send it.

I would like to add Transparent theme and Celtic, but I don't know whether
I will have enough time. We probably need more quality than quantity.
For example, modules in OSX are really bad.

Regards,
Mikhael.

Re: theme submission

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

On 18 Dec 2002 21:51:14 -0700, S. Anderson wrote:
> 
> attached is a theme I made for fvwm-themes 0.6.2(cvs), im not sure
> if its completely correct. It looks pretty good with the
> buttons/windowlook of this theme and the colors of other themes...

Thanks. Renders pretty interestingly with other colors.
Should it be named "tile" all letters lower cased?

There are some things (almost in every component) that are not very
standard and should be solved. I will take a look later.

> fvwm-themes is neat :-)
> 
> feel free to do whatever you want with it.

If it is neat enough for you to use on a daily basis, you may get cvs
access and maintain your themes yourself. Just create a SF user.

Regards,
Mikhael.

theme submission

[S. A. <sa...@xm...>]

Hi,
attached is a theme I made for fvwm-themes 0.6.2(cvs), im not sure
if its completely correct. It looks pretty good with the
buttons/windowlook of this theme and the colors of other themes...

fvwm-themes is neat :-)

feel free to do whatever you want with it.

thanks!
sa

no spam anymore

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

Ok, it was the last spam on this list.

I am turning fvwm-themes-devel and fvwm-themes-users to the members only
lists. I don't know yet what will happen with messages sent from others.
Probably I will see all the spam (just like I see a lot of filtered one).
Anyway, you should not see any.

Regards,
Mikhael.

=?windows-1252?Q?:::_E-newsletters_Gr=E1tis_:::?=

[<das...@ma...>]

 
 Caro(a) Senhor(a), Receba as nossas e-newsletters temáticas gratuitamente. Para subscrever, clique aqui! 
Sendo a Verlag Dashöfer uma editora especializada em Manuais técnicos dirigidos a profissionais das mais diversas áreas, vem por este meio colocar à sua inteira disposição e de um modo gratuito, as suas e-newsletters temáticas.
 
Estas e-newsletters são boletins informativos enviados, gratuitamente, para o seu email e que focam os seguintes temas:
 
 - Fiscalidade | - Contabilidade
 
Exemplo de uma e-newsletter de fiscalidade.
 

 
 - Processamento Laboral
 
 - Recursos Humanos
 
 - Gestão Empresas
 
 - Marketing e Vendas
 
 - E-Business
 
 - Higiene e Segurança no Trabalho
 
 - Qualidade | - Construção
 
 - Dicas de Informática
 
Para subscrever estas publicações periódicas, gratuitamente, basta efectuar um pequeno registo no nosso site.
 Muito Obrigado! 

 

The Illuminati Order

[The I. O. <web...@il...>]

The Illuminati Order would like to invite you to visit with us at:
http://www.illuminatiorder.org

This invitation is at the request of someone who cares about you
but she wishes to remain ananymous.

Kind regards,

Grandmaster
The Illuminati Order of Bavaria

P.S. as a special gift, invest in ADSX (Applied Digital Solutions). It is an illuminati stock which
will make you a great deal of money if you buy while it is under $1 

The Illuminati Order

[The I. O. <web...@il...>]

The Illuminati Order would like to invite you to visit with us at:
http://www.illuminatiorder.org

This invitation is at the request of someone who cares about you
but she wishes to remain ananymous.

Kind regards,

Grandmaster
The Illuminati Order of Bavaria

P.S. as a special gift, invest in ADSX (Applied Digital Solutions). It is an illuminati stock which
will make you a great deal of money if you buy while it is under $1 

AuthorZone.Com

[AuthorZone.Com <web...@au...>]

AuthorZone.Com is now LiVE

The FORUM is at"
http://www.AuthorZone.Com/forums/

NOTE: We are still working on the website and have many features to add, but don't let this stop you.
Come, join and enjoy!

This email ad is being sent in full compliance with U.S. Senate Bill 1618, Title #3, Section 301.


Kind regards

Max
AuthorZone.Com

WARNIN WARNING WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AuthorZone.Com <web...@au...>]

WARNIN WARNING WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL READ NOW!!!!!!!!
http://www.authorzone.com/fraud/
 

Re: Inviting to fvwm-themes

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

I am CC-ing our mailing list, so Olivier may read this.

On 05 Oct 2002 23:54:05 -0400, Suzanne Skinner wrote:
> 
> > What is your argument against fvwm-themes?
> 
> None at all! Why did I write fvwm-theme instead of using your app? Just
> to see if I could do it, and because I like the feeling of running
> something I wrote myself. Why did I make a webpage about it? Well,
> mainly because people saw my screenshots and went "cool, how'd you do
> that?" :-) I never intended this to be a competitor to your fvwm-themes,
> which I'm sure is much more user-friendly and which I link to on my
> site.
> 
> You're welcome to incorporate any of my creations into fvwm-themes.

I do, I do. :) You are in AUTHORS for a month now.
It is also nice to be able to link to a nice webpage.

I know this feeling of running something of yourself. But noone from us
created fvwm, still we feel comfortable customizing it. Once you create
Suzanne theme, you will feel at home.

> My new project, though, is somewhat different. fvwm-desktop isn't just a
> look-and-feel manager; it's actually an application manager. It reads
> application data from a central repository, one file per application,
> somewhat like KDE. Each file lists the display name, icon, default
> keybinding, etc., for that app. fvwm-desktop uses this data to build a
> menu, to set up mini-icons (for pager, etc.) automatically, and to allow
> users to easily add application launchers to the desktop or the taskbar.
> 
> I'm probably going to put up a webpage on it in a few days (once current
> CVS can support all its features), and then you can see what I'm on about.

I think I know what such project intends to do. It is similar to what Jos
wants to achieve in his CDEmu and he asked about whether fvwm-themes may
help here. Olivier once suggested to start wm-appdb project. We already
use fvwm-themes-menuapp script, and build application menus for Debian
and Mandrake systems. We work on wm-icons. So, we are aware of the needs.

The real question is how will fvwm-desktop work? Will it be bound to one
specific look and feel or be incorporated into fvwm-themes? For example,
I want to make the current launchers in RedmondXP panel configurable on
the fly, but this will be possible (without restarting the panel) only
when FvwmButtons supports add-to/delete-from-container functionality.

So, my suggestion is to do this inside fvwm-themes. Otherwise you will
need to duplicate some of the fvwm-themes parts in fvwm-desktop.
And, yes, fvwm-desktop is a better name than fvwm-themes, but since you
don't really intend to write applications, only catalogue them, this is
not principal.

Anyway, I wish you good luck regardless of whether you join fvwm-themes.
If you are interesting, we may discuss fvwm-desktop here.

Regards,
Mikhael.

Re: Moving some wm-icons icon sets to png

[Olivier C. <oli...@fr...>]

On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 05:49:34PM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> Olivier, I know you are busy with fvwm, but maybe you may help me.
> 
> I think xpm is fine, but not up-to-date to today's desktop user wishes.
> How about converting gnome and kde2 icon sets to png? I don't think I have
> all original png icons. Please add everything you have to wm-icons cvs.

I've kde-3 and no more kde-2 on my machine. Also I've gnome 2 only.
I will dump "all" corresponding icons I've in kde-3 into kde-2 and
all  corresponding icons I've in gnome-2 into gnome. I hope I will
finish this before the end of the month.

Olivier

Moving some wm-icons icon sets to png

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

Olivier, I know you are busy with fvwm, but maybe you may help me.

I think xpm is fine, but not up-to-date to today's desktop user wishes.
How about converting gnome and kde2 icon sets to png? I don't think I have
all original png icons. Please add everything you have to wm-icons cvs.
Don't remove .xpm for now, I want to compare .png and .xpm first before
removing. I know it may take some time to prepare one icon set, but we
should do this once again.

Regards,
Mikhael.

Added new aquafusion icon sets

[Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...>]

I have added the following AquaFusion icon sets to wm-icons cvs:

  16x16-aquafusion
  22x22-aquafusion  <- looks nice in fvwm-themes menu
  32x32-aquafusion
  48x48-aquafusion
  64x64-aquafusion

These are in PNG format and are really amassing. The only missing icons
are choice-* and window-*, this somehow should be solved.

This only works ok with the latest fvwm-2.5.4 (from cvs). Screenshot:

  http://wm-icons.sf.net/preview/64x64-aquafusion.png

I used only fvwm alone to create this screenshot.
Nice half transparent effects like in "viewer" on the screenshot.

I will start to work on preparing a new wm-icons release.

Regards,
Mikhael.

http://www.pangit.co.uk - The one-stop solutions provider for all of your business requirements.

[Pang IT L. <sa...@pa...>]

http://www.pangit.co.uk

Pang IT Ltd, incorporated in 1999, provides a one-stop supply and service company for all of your voice, information, messaging and internet requirements. From relocating your Local Area Network, to designing your e-commerce website, to systems architecture and implementation of a new corporate and geographically dispersed voice and data network, Pang IT Ltd has the expertise and application to help you recognize your full potential, whilst remaining directly focused at business requirement and scope. This helps reduce cost and increase productivity, whilst having the simpler administration of one single outsourced contract. Whatever your company size and area of business, Pang IT Ltd will have the knowledge to help in a focused and friendly manner, with all the needs and convenience of the customer at the forefront of mind.

1. Website and Graphical Design Services - please feel free to peruse http://www.getcyprus.com as an example.
2. Hardware & Software Sales and Supply.
3. LAN/WAN Infrastructure Design and Implementation.
4. Sales and E-commerce/E-mail/Internet Marketing Consultancy.
5. Internet Connectivity and Security.
6. Office re-location/refurbishment and voice/data connectivity.
7. E-mail and Messaging Systems.
8. Telephone Systems/Voice over IP.
9. End User and System Training Services.
10. Structured Cabling/Datacomms Engineering Services.
11. Professional e-Marketeering Consultancy.
12. Systems Administration and Support.
13. Bespoke/Holiday IT Staff Cover.
14. Project Management.
15. Database and Accounting Systems.

Please visit our website at http://www.pangit.co.uk or contact us at sa...@pa... for further information.

Should you be recruiting for contract IT Professionals then please feel free to peruse the CV at http://www.pangit.co.uk/cv.html in case of any suitable requirement. 


Please note - Pang IT Ltd do not pass any subscribers details onto any third party company or individual. Should you wish to no longer receive periodic mailing from Pang IT Ltd reference our products and services, please reply to this e-mail with the word "remove" in the subject field. Alternatively please e-mail sa...@pa...  and we will cancel your subscription immediately.

We are looking for IT partnership. Please contact us a.s.a.p.

[<ne...@bl...>]

Dear IT reseller and supplier, 

We are on the lookout for new partners such as you. Whether you want to buy or sell, BlueCom Danmark A/S is worth closer acquaintance.

We have found you and your company through our Internet research, and hope to establish a fruitful cooperation with you in the future. However, we apologize if you are not the correct person to contact within your company, and kindly request that you forward this message to that person. Further, if this letter is of no interest to you and your company, please press the "unsubscribe" button.

Click here: http://www.bluecom.com/unsubscribe/

Would you like the best prices on the market, plus 24-hour delivery and an incredible 30 days credit? Then you might like to become a reseller partner. Besides delivering at the very best prices, we offer Real-Time updated prices through the Internet.

We are able to offer the absolute best prices on the market because of our large-scale procurement of a small number of specific products. Our range includes products from IBM, Compaq and HP Options such as Notebooks, PCs and Monitors. We also offer PC parts such as RAM, CPUs, VGA cards, Motherboards, Wireless products, original Mobile Phones and accessories, Hard disks, DVD, CD-RW, TFT screens, from the following top companies: ASUS, ECS, ABIT, CREATIVE, INTEL, AMD, U.S. ROBOTICS, LG, PLEXTOR, BELKIN, BENQ, SAMSUNG, IBM SOFTWARE and others.

We are also on the on the lookout for new suppliers. BlueCom Danmark A/S keeps it suppliers constantly updated on products in demand; the specific volumes on request, and of course the target prices.
 
The easiest way to start cooperating with BlueCom Danmark A/S is through our user-friendly website. If any of the features we offer are of interest to your company, please click on the link and our cooperation has already begun.

Click here: http://www.bluecom.com/oem-pre.cfm 
Click here: http://www.bluecom.com/scm/start.cfm? 

BlueCom Danmark A/S is a worldwide IT-distributor of PC-systems and add-ons. Since the foundation in 1992 the company has enjoyed constant growth, and is always on the look out for new partners 

As an added bonus we offer you and up-to-date channel IT News relevant to both resellers and suppliers. We produce a newsletter with articles covering the changes in our industry, new products, tariff rates and general trends in the IT-market. The newsletter also contains information about BlueCom Danmark A/S and the development of its business partners.

Click here: http://www.bluecom.com/rootfiles/it_news.cfm 

Would you like more information about BlueCom Danmark A/S, please visit our homepage at www.bluecom.com or contact us via e-mail or telephone.


Thanks for your time. We look forward to hear from you.


Best regards
BlueCom Danmark A/S

PeterGarber                                                            Director of Sales

And
                                        
Charlotte E. Larsen
Purchasing Manager