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From: Smiler <smi...@we...> - 2003-05-03 15:02:27
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I have but now understood how work dpkg-buildpackages. Now i think it will be easier for me to built extra packages. To using release numbers i have not expierience. I don't know how relaese ist stabil enough to build a deb. Now i will try to build the fvwm-themes_0.7.0_0.20030503_i386.deb. Andrei |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-05-03 13:29:40
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On 03 May 2003 08:47:48 +0200, Smiler wrote: > > try again! > > http://fvwm-themes.sf.net/tmp/fvwm-themes_0.6.2-1_i386.deb Andrei, please use meaningful Subject lines, not "OK" or "Shit". There are about 25 readers on this list and much more will read this later in archives. Let's be nice to them. This is very nice that you work on creating debian packages. I think that you should increase a release number (from 1 to 2 and so on) when you create new fixed packages. I myself don't have a Debian system, so I can't install it, only view. Probably others with such systems may try your packages. How about other things, like creating fvwm-themes-extra package and adding an automatical procedure for building these 2 packages from any tarball or cvs. Like "make deb-dist". I will help if you have any questions, but it should probably be similar to rpm build process. Also try creating fvwm-themes_0.7.0_0.20030503_i386.deb from cvs. Once I get a confirmation that your packages work, I will add them to the web. In the future someone else should maintain these packages. We may discuss this later. Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Smiler <smi...@we...> - 2003-05-03 06:47:19
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try again! http://fvwm-themes.sf.net/tmp/fvwm-themes_0.6.2-1_i386.deb Andrei |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-05-02 23:31:21
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On 02 May 2003 22:02:05 +0200, Smiler wrote: > > This i have done: > smilebef@smilebef:~/neu$ scp fvwm-themes_0.6.2-1_i386.deb > shell.sf.net:/home/groups/f/fv/fvwm-themes/htdocs/tmp/ > smi...@sh...'s password: > fvwm-themes_0.6.2-1_i386.deb 100% 623KB 28.2KB/s > 00:22 > > But any is wrong. > can you me tell the right URL or self try to download? The url is like I said: http://fvwm-themes.sf.net/tmp/fvwm-themes_0.6.2-1_i386.deb I tried it, and as far as I can see, it is ok. I didn't install it, but did dpkg-deb -x -e. 1) For some reason this created an empty usr/sbin directory for me. 2) There is a spelling error: "there are no special changes for debian" 3) You call fvwm-themes-menuapp two times in postinst instead of one. 4) I am not sure it is a good idea to run "fvwm-themes-images --ft-install --gnome" for every user. This creates a lot of xpms. Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Smiler <smi...@we...> - 2003-05-02 20:01:37
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This i have done: smilebef@smilebef:~/neu$ scp fvwm-themes_0.6.2-1_i386.deb shell.sf.net:/home/groups/f/fv/fvwm-themes/htdocs/tmp/ smi...@sh...'s password: fvwm-themes_0.6.2-1_i386.deb 100% 623KB 28.2KB/s 00:22 But any is wrong. can you me tell the right URL or self try to download? |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-05-02 19:07:42
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On 02 May 2003 20:05:39 +0200, Smiler wrote: > > Is it god to send a big Attachment to > <fvw...@li...> ? > > Sorry. I just visited the non-approved messages. There are 36 SPAM messages (this is why I don't visit this page more often than once in a month). There are 2 your messages waiting for approving with the reasons: Message body is too big: 914660 bytes but there's a limit of 200 KB Message body is too big: 862934 bytes but there's a limit of 200 KB I do not automatically send the auto-response, because it is useless to speak with spammers (that use fake addresses, of the real people too). Ok, now to the point. Please don't post large files, do the following. Run this command (and enter your SF password): scp fvwm-themes.deb shell.sf.net:/home/groups/f/fv/fvwm-themes/htdocs/tmp/ Then post one url to this list: http://fvwm-themes.sf.net/tmp/fvwm-themes.deb Later you may ssh to shell.sf.net as your SF user and remove this file. Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Smiler <smi...@we...> - 2003-05-02 18:05:12
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Is it god to send a big Attachment to <fvw...@li...> ? Sorry. |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-04-26 23:21:07
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On 27 Apr 2003 01:02:26 +0200, Olivier Chapuis wrote: > > Can we assume that the required fvwm version for ft 0.7 is 2.5.7? Sure, the latest available fvwm version will be the requirement, since this is the first unstable fvwm-themes release. Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Olivier C. <oli...@fr...> - 2003-04-26 23:00:20
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Can we assume that the required fvwm version for ft 0.7 is 2.5.7? Regards, Olivier |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-04-23 23:39:14
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On 23 Apr 2003 22:27:02 +0200, Smiler wrote: > > I need now the path and the server name for cvs because: > > > cvs -d :pserver:smi...@cv...:/fvwm-themes login > Logging in to :pserver:smi...@cv...:2401/fvwm-themes > CVS password: > > cvs -d :pserver:smi...@cv...:/fvwm-themes checkout > fvwm-themes > Cannot access /fvwm-themes/CVSROOT > No such file or directory Hmm, where did you get these parameters from? :) See: https://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=1738 These commands should probably work too: cvs -d :pserver:smi...@cv...:/cvsroot/fvwm-themes login cvs -d :pserver:smi...@cv...:/cvsroot/fvwm-themes checkout fvwm-themes Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Smiler <smi...@we...> - 2003-04-23 20:27:06
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I need now the path and the server name for cvs because: cvs -d :pserver:smi...@cv...:/fvwm-themes login Logging in to :pserver:smi...@cv...:2401/fvwm-themes CVS password: cvs -d :pserver:smi...@cv...:/fvwm-themes checkout fvwm-themes Cannot access /fvwm-themes/CVSROOT No such file or directory |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-04-16 21:07:44
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On 16 Apr 2003 21:17:20 +0200, Smiler privatelly wrote: > > here are the deb's for unstable debian > tell me pleace what you think about I just installed dpkg-1.10.9-1mdk.rpm to test this package fvwm-themes_0.6.2-1_i386.deb. :) Seems good to me although I can't install it. Here are several notes. ==== I don't see the requirements. The requirements are perl and fvwm-2.4.8 (this is for 0.6.2, see REQUIRED_FVWM_VERSION in configure.in). I am not sure what /usr/share/doc-base/fvwm-themes file should mean. ==== The description has several typos, here is the corrected description: Description: Nice look, feel and menusystem for FVWM. The fvwm-themes package includes utilities and themes to get an easy to handle look and feel for the FVWM window manager. Please don't use the "Fvwm-themes" spelling, either fvwm or FVWM, either fvwm-themes or FVWM Themes. You may also use the same description that rpm has (it is even translated to several languages): FVWM Themes is a powerful configuration framework for FVWM, designed to be easily extendible and configurable, includes several pre-built themes, a pack of images and sounds. ==== Please add the following command to be run in postinst: [ -x /usr/bin/fvwm-themes-menuapp ] && fvwm-themes-menuapp --site --build-menus --remove-popup || true ==== You probably would want to package fvwm-themes-extra too. Ideally I would like to have the deb/ directory in cvs similarly to the rpm/ directory. Then one can similarly run "make deb-dist" to create fvwm-themes-full deb, and run "make deb-dist3" to create fvwm-themes and fvwm-themes-extra debs. If you may create such automatical procedure, it would be nice. We may use it (after modifying) in fvwm and wm-icons projects as well. Although both of these are already packaged in Debian, but someone may want to build daily snapshots for example. Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-04-14 01:36:33
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On 14 Apr 2003 00:04:41 +0200, Smiler wrote: > > >>jear there are entrys in the Makefile.in bzw .am > >> > >>the debian paketbuilder will install the packet to > >>fvwmt-hemes-x.x.x/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/ > >>and the command > >> > >>"fvwm-themes-config --site --reset" > >> > >>say " no permision to /usr/share/fvwm-themes/themes/ " > >> > >>sorry i have no expiriences with Makefiles (: > >> > >>the entry DESTDIR = > >> > >>are OK but i don't know matsch > > > >Did you read the links I have sent you that solve this problem using > > i have try to translate, but is it not so easy for me. > > >ROOT_PREFIX? > > > > ./configure --prefix=/usr > > make > > make prefix=/path/to/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/usr > > ROOT_PREFIX=/path/to/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x > > the debian packagebuild program will make all this environment and > execute make and configure automaticaly by using "$DESTDIR =" in makefile, You should not execute make and configure automatically. You should pass some parameters to them. I don't know how packagebuild works, but I am pretty sure you should write the exact commands by hand. Or edit the existing files by hand to execute the following commands: ./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-run-updatemenu --disable-build-menus --disable-menu-system make make prefix=/path/to/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/usr ROOT_PREFIX=/path/to/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x install > the installation run also fine to > "/home/smiler/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/* " , > only the perlskripte recive no correct environment var $PREFIX. > may be $prefix ! = $destdir for programms from fvwm-themes/bin/ called > by MAKEFILE? > i think debian set the $destdir but not $prefix used par example in > fvwm-themes-config? > and write than with perl-scipts in default /usr. > may be, we shold export prefix=destdir . > ? (: I may later rename ROOT_PREFIX to DESTDIR, but currently, just pass the exact commands that I wrote above. Forget about DESTDIR for now. After you succeed with creating some initial deb, you should add a post-install script that should: 1) run update-menu 2) disable all unexisting programs (change themes/default/menus*) for a user. In other words, this post-install script should do the things that are skipped on the deb creation by calling ./configure --disable-*. We will help you with the post-install script if needed. You should have some knowledge about creating packages, it's not trivial. If you want to go this way, you should prepare to learn how exactly both fvwm-themes and deb packages work. Hopefully you will succeed. Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Smiler <smi...@we...> - 2003-04-13 22:04:43
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> > >Andrei, consider to translate *.html and rpm/fvwm-themes*.spec.in . > > later i will translate if i have more time >>also i have interess on an fvwm-themes.deb >>now i have the first things done: >> 1. download a frech upstream (not the problem) >> 2. dh_make (easy) >> 3. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot (with many problems) >> >> >>jear there are entrys in the Makefile.in bzw .am >> >>the debian paketbuilder will install the packet to >>fvwmt-hemes-x.x.x/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/ >>and the command >> >>"fvwm-themes-config --site --reset" >> >>say " no permision to /usr/share/fvwm-themes/themes/ " >> >>sorry i have no expiriences with Makefiles (: >> >>the entry DESTDIR = >> >>are OK but i don't know matsch >> >> > >Did you read the links I have sent you that solve this problem using > i have try to translate, but is it not so easy for me. >ROOT_PREFIX? > > ./configure --prefix=/usr > make > make prefix=/path/to/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/usr ROOT_PREFIX=/path/to/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x > > the debian packagebuild program will make all this environment and execute make and configure automaticaly by using "$DESTDIR =" in makefile, the installation run also fine to "/home/smiler/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/* " , only the perlskripte recive no correct environment var $PREFIX. may be $prefix ! = $destdir for programms from fvwm-themes/bin/ called by MAKEFILE? i think debian set the $destdir but not $prefix used par example in fvwm-themes-config? and write than with perl-scipts in default /usr. may be, we shold export prefix=destdir . ? (: friendly Regards Andrei |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-04-12 22:05:54
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On 11 Apr 2003 22:53:16 +0200, Smiler wrote: > > i'm an german and i have translated the locales/de for fvwm-themes Already in cvs. As usually rerun the automake and so on procedure. Andrei, consider to translate *.html and rpm/fvwm-themes*.spec.in . > also i have interess on an fvwm-themes.deb > now i have the first things done: > 1. download a frech upstream (not the problem) > 2. dh_make (easy) > 3. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot (with many problems) > > > jear there are entrys in the Makefile.in bzw .am > > the debian paketbuilder will install the packet to > fvwmt-hemes-x.x.x/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/ > and the command > > "fvwm-themes-config --site --reset" > > say " no permision to /usr/share/fvwm-themes/themes/ " > > sorry i have no expiriences with Makefiles (: > > the entry DESTDIR = > > are OK but i don't know matsch Did you read the links I have sent you that solve this problem using ROOT_PREFIX? ./configure --prefix=/usr make make prefix=/path/to/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/usr ROOT_PREFIX=/path/to/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x If you want to install something in other directories (like /etc), you should use a trick that you may find in our mail archives. But I suggest to install everything only in /usr, so these 3 commands above are ok. Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Smiler <smi...@we...> - 2003-04-11 20:53:20
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Hallöle My name is Andrei short smilie i'm an german and i have translated the locales/de for fvwm-themes also i have interess on an fvwm-themes.deb now i have the first things done: 1. download a frech upstream (not the problem) 2. dh_make (easy) 3. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot (with many problems) jear there are entrys in the Makefile.in bzw .am the debian paketbuilder will install the packet to fvwmt-hemes-x.x.x/debian/fvwm-themes-x.x.x/ and the command "fvwm-themes-config --site --reset" say " no permision to /usr/share/fvwm-themes/themes/ " sorry i have no expiriences with Makefiles (: the entry DESTDIR = are OK but i don't know matsch MfG smilie |
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From: S. A. <sa...@xm...> - 2003-03-16 01:51:14
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On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 01:41:13AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > Kathryn, nice to see you added your 2 themes. I am not sure duplicating > modules from the default theme is a good idea. I would drop the default > modules completely if someone could do a nicer alternative. Maybe you? :) > > We need screenshots of new themes on the web. It should be png, preferably > 1280x1024, but other resolutions are ok. Just send the screenshot to me > privately or commit it into the fvwm-themes-web repository: place png in > screenshots/full/ and then run "create-thumbnail plainbow". > > Shawn and Kathryn, please create screenshots of your themes. > I'll do this shortly, as soon as I fix up my theme a little more. (hopefully tomorrow). cya, sa |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-03-15 16:38:07
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On 15 Mar 2003 15:08:23 +1100, Kathryn Andersen wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 01:41:13AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > > Kathryn, nice to see you added your 2 themes. I am not sure duplicating > > modules from the default theme is a good idea. I would drop the default > > modules completely if someone could do a nicer alternative. Maybe you? :) > > I don't think I did duplicate any modules completely; the ones I copied > I did because I wanted to alter them, which I did. > Or am I confused as to what you mean here? All I meant is that we probably want to create more attractvie modules than the ones in modules@default. :) > > We need screenshots of new themes on the web. It should be png, preferably > > 1280x1024, but other resolutions are ok. Just send the screenshot to me > > privately or commit it into the fvwm-themes-web repository: place png in > > screenshots/full/ and then run "create-thumbnail plainbow". > > That command only works if one is using a gif file; otherwise one needs > to give the extension as well. I think you didn't have the up to date cvs version. I prefer the screenshots to be png (lossless) and thumbnail to be jpg or gif, because here the small size is more important than the quality and historically some browsers do not support inline png, but they may open an external viewer if the link itself is png. Nice screenshots, thanks. Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Kathryn A. <kat...@ka...> - 2003-03-15 03:59:09
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On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 01:41:13AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > Kathryn, nice to see you added your 2 themes. I am not sure duplicating > modules from the default theme is a good idea. I would drop the default > modules completely if someone could do a nicer alternative. Maybe you? :) I don't think I did duplicate any modules completely; the ones I copied I did because I wanted to alter them, which I did. Or am I confused as to what you mean here? > We need screenshots of new themes on the web. It should be png, preferably > 1280x1024, but other resolutions are ok. Just send the screenshot to me > privately or commit it into the fvwm-themes-web repository: place png in > screenshots/full/ and then run "create-thumbnail plainbow". That command only works if one is using a gif file; otherwise one needs to give the extension as well. > Shawn and Kathryn, please create screenshots of your themes. Done. Both PlainBow and CelticBow are captured and committed. I didn't alter screenshots/index.html because I'm not sure how you want it all arranged. Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kristin: What do you think? Beverly: Well, it looks like you tucked when you should've flattened out. Kristin: Something like that. (Star Trek: The Next Generation - Conundrum, Stardate 45494.2) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen <http://www.katspace.com> / \ | \_.--.*/ | GenFicCrit mailing list <http://www.katspace.com/gen_fic_crit/> v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-03-15 01:41:34
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Kathryn, nice to see you added your 2 themes. I am not sure duplicating modules from the default theme is a good idea. I would drop the default modules completely if someone could do a nicer alternative. Maybe you? :) We need screenshots of new themes on the web. It should be png, preferably 1280x1024, but other resolutions are ok. Just send the screenshot to me privately or commit it into the fvwm-themes-web repository: place png in screenshots/full/ and then run "create-thumbnail plainbow". Shawn and Kathryn, please create screenshots of your themes. Alex, if we decide to keep the awol theme (after updating), please create the screenshot too. I would like if someone volunteers to create some other theme screenshots for our web. Please polish the look first, this may mean some hand work. Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Sebastian L. <xs...@na...> - 2003-02-24 22:24:58
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:08:06 +0000 Mikhael Goikhman <mi...@ho...> wrote: > On 23 Feb 2003 19:26:44 +0100, Sebastian Lundquist wrote: > > > > 1. I have messed up the icons on windows and the taskbar, ie. up to the > > left on windows and to the left in the taskbar, the icons are either > > greyed out or some bisarre icon. Where do i change this? And where do i > > add which icon which window should have?? > > I suppose I answered in another message, if no, reask again. > > > 2. Is there possible to make the icons (ie. buttons, iconified windows) > > in the taskbar to have a shape or to not take 100% of the space > > available, i want them a bit separated and maybe shaped with round > > corners if possible. > > I suppose you speak about the RedmondXP panel, more exactly FvwmIconMan > that lists windows. Unfortunately it is currently impossible to do what > you want in FvwmIconMan. Is there anyway to do this then? My 'icons' (iconifyed windows) are all alike and looks melted into the FvwmIconMan itself, although im going to change the defautl background on them later on i want to pad them if possible. When i set the height on the icons to less than the FvwmIconMan they just sits at the top not in the middle like i want them too. And yes, my theme is becoming less and less RedmondXP and more my own right now...i currently don't use the FvwmThemesPanelManager either, im going to get a screenshot up later so you all can watch. > > > 3. I want a nice digital clock on the far right of the taskbar, and i > > think the swallow command is correct, how do i use this and where can i > > find applets to swallow?? > > The RedmondXP panel is just FvwmButtons, so there is a good man page. > You may swallow any clock (like xclock, xdaliclock with needed arguments) > inside the panel. Do this instead of the container that includes 2 clock > buttons. The FvwmButtons configuration may be tricky. The syntax is: > > *FvwmButtons-Panel: (16x1, Swallow "CLOCK" 'xclock -name CLOCK') > > Regards, > Mikhael. > |
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From: Mikhael G. <mi...@ho...> - 2003-02-24 01:08:44
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On 23 Feb 2003 19:26:44 +0100, Sebastian Lundquist wrote: > > 1. I have messed up the icons on windows and the taskbar, ie. up to the > left on windows and to the left in the taskbar, the icons are either > greyed out or some bisarre icon. Where do i change this? And where do i > add which icon which window should have?? I suppose I answered in another message, if no, reask again. > 2. Is there possible to make the icons (ie. buttons, iconified windows) > in the taskbar to have a shape or to not take 100% of the space > available, i want them a bit separated and maybe shaped with round > corners if possible. I suppose you speak about the RedmondXP panel, more exactly FvwmIconMan that lists windows. Unfortunately it is currently impossible to do what you want in FvwmIconMan. > 3. I want a nice digital clock on the far right of the taskbar, and i > think the swallow command is correct, how do i use this and where can i > find applets to swallow?? The RedmondXP panel is just FvwmButtons, so there is a good man page. You may swallow any clock (like xclock, xdaliclock with needed arguments) inside the panel. Do this instead of the container that includes 2 clock buttons. The FvwmButtons configuration may be tricky. The syntax is: *FvwmButtons-Panel: (16x1, Swallow "CLOCK" 'xclock -name CLOCK') Regards, Mikhael. |
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From: Sebastian L. <xs...@na...> - 2003-02-23 18:33:19
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Hello, im doing my own theme and i want some help. 1. I have messed up the icons on windows and the taskbar, ie. up to the left on windows and to the left in the taskbar, the icons are either greyed out or some bisarre icon. Where do i change this? And where do i add which icon which window should have?? 2. Is there possible to make the icons (ie. buttons, iconified windows) in the taskbar to have a shape or to not take 100% of the space available, i want them a bit separated and maybe shaped with round corners if possible. 3. I want a nice digital clock on the far right of the taskbar, and i think the swallow command is correct, how do i use this and where can i find applets to swallow?? /Sebastian |
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From: Maciej D. <ha...@po...> - 2003-02-02 11:50:52
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Hello. I created 'Crystal' theme & GUI based on FVWM. Main site is at http://harnir.one.pl/~harnir/crystal/ Currently all documentation and comments in config files are in Polish, sorry. Page is in English, there is right now a little information about Cystal, but you can check some screenshots and get the files from there. I write how to install it here: 1. Decompress crystal catalog to ~/.fvwm/Crystal 2. Add this to your ~/.fvwm/fvwm2rc: Read Crystal/Crystalrc 3. Restart FVWM If you will find any problems using this theme & GUI, send me questions to ha...@po.... I hope that you will like it. Best Regards harnir -- . .----------[ http://harnir.one.pl ]----------. v - x _ | mailto:ha...@po... Maciej '------. <(o)> | JID: ha...@ch... Delmanowski | ' J L ' '.__________________________________________________! |
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From: Kathryn A. <kat...@ka...> - 2003-02-02 11:13:52
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Well, after much delay, I've actually committed my themes. At least, I've added them to the themes directory in fvwm-themes, and committed that. Is there something else that needs to be done in order to complete their recognised existance in the official collection? You will find that the version of CelticBow I have committed is slightly different to the one on my website. What I've done is eliminate the need to change any of the actual image files, in two ways: - the background image uses ImageMagic to be displayed, piping the image through convert -modulate to change its hue before it's displayed. (the hue is set in the call in "background") - the image used for the "decor" on the titlebar is actually a .png file (thus not compatible with fvwm 2.4) which is semi-transparent, thus it takes on the hue of whatever the titlebar happens to be. (I think this is nifty!) Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning and the sea's asleep and the rivers dream; people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on Ace, we've got work to do..." -- The Doctor (Doctor Who: Survival) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen <ka...@ka...> <http://www.katspace.com> / \ | \_.--.*/ | GenFicCrit mailing list <http://www.katspace.com/gen_fic_crit/> v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe |
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