Re: [Freedos-devel] Updating/moving the wiki

[Jerome S. <je...@sh...>]

Hi Jim,

Just a thought… 

GitLab has Wiki support for the projects.

Would require manually glueing an index together of the projects with Wikis under a main “landing page” which could be a project like issue-reporting. Then point wiki.Freedos.org to that page.





> On Aug 26, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel <fre...@li...> wrote:
> 
> (This is a long email. Feel free to skip ahead to the "MY PROPOSAL"
> section at the end.)
> 
> 
> I mentioned in an earlier email that SourceForge upgraded the PHP on
> the server that runs the FreeDOS Wiki. I don't know why, but the PHP
> upgrade has caused the wiki to not load a stylesheet. It doesn't
> appear to be a *missing* stylesheet - the wiki doesn't seem to be able
> to detect and load at least one stylesheet. So the wiki is currently
> showing unstyled web pages.
> 
> For a while, I've wanted to move the FreeDOS Wiki to a new server, not
> hosted by SF. The SF folks have been great, but the web hosting is
> sloooooooooooow and websites there are much more difficult to
> maintain. The not-quite-broken wiki is my motivation to finally move
> the wiki.
> 
> I can set up a new website on the same service that currently hosts
> the www.freedos.org website. Since we aren't using the
> wiki.freedos.org hostname right now, I can set up a new
> wiki.freedos.org site.
> 
> From my other email: the SF upgrade means the new-PHP site is hosted
> at freedos.sourceforge.io - so I had to change all the "wiki" links to
> point to freedos.sourceforge.io. The older-PHP vhost.sourceforge.net
> that "wiki.freedos.org" points to will go away soon. I could repoint
> the "wiki.freedos.org" alias to the new-PHP site .. but I think it's
> easier to just go ahead with the new hosting.
> 
> However, we have a "legacy" problem in the wiki database:
> 
> A little background:
> Years ago, SF set up a shared "all-projects" MediaWiki. All SF-hosted
> projects could use that, and SF had some front-end that carved out a
> space for each project. (I don't remember the details anymore.) Later,
> SF retired the shared wiki, and gave each project an export of their
> data, plus a user list. Because of how MediaWiki tracks edits, the
> "user list" was every user on SF. The user list is 99% non-FreeDOS
> users.
> 
> We set up our own MediaWiki on vhost.sourceforge.net
> ("wiki.freedos.org") and imported the data. We've added some wiki
> editors since then; a few of those are still active.
> 
> But if I migrate the current MediaWiki database to new web hosting,
> we'd have to import the legacy user list too. It doesn't seem like a
> good idea to have that many non-FreeDOS users defined in the wiki's
> user list.
> 
> 
> MY PROPOSAL:
> 
> I did some analysis, and the FreeDOS Wiki has 290 pages in it. That's
> more than a few, but it's not a ton.
> 
> My current thinking is to set up a new wiki.freedos.org website
> (re-point the "wiki.freedos.org" name to the new website) and do a
> manual copy/paste of all 290 pages. It would be a pain to do all that
> by hand, but I would like to use that opportunity to do some wiki
> cleanup at the same time.
> 
> When the new wiki.freedos.org is ready, I would change the "wiki"
> links on www.freedos.org to point to the new wiki.freedos.org website.
> I can add new wiki editors at that time, and probably set up a "self
> service" feature so folks can create their own wiki accounts (would
> need to look at how to prevent spamming).
> 
> 
> PROs:
> 
> + The new user list would be just FreeDOS folks
> 
> + Wiki cleanup (consistent naming of pages, consistent formatting of pages, etc)
> 
> + The new hosting service would be faster, so the new wiki.freedos.org
> would be faster, more responsive
> 
> + Easier to maintain on the new web hosting
> 
> 
> CONs:
> 
> - Manually copying/pasting 290 wiki pages would be a pain, but doable
> 
> - I think I can pace myself to copy all 290 wiki pages in one month
> (by around Oct 1) but delays could push that date out - in the
> meantime, we would continue to use the SF hosting we have now, with
> unstyled pages
> 
> 
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