Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

[Ralf Q. <fre...@gm...>]

On 12/31/2014 10:40 AM, Michael Brutman wrote:
> I am a little skeptical about the prospects for success on this project.
>
> The FreeDOS roadmap ( 
> http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/FreeDOS_Road_Map ) is out of 
> date and short on details.  I would like to see a broad discussion on 
> the roadmap, get consensus and have it updated.
>
> Anything that uses the name "FreeDOS" should be reserved for the 
> classic 16 bit operating system.  A new project that uses a 
> fundamentally different kernel should not just have a different 
> version number; it's a different OS.  I would expect them to call it 
> "FreeDOS-32 v1.0" or something like that, not FreeDOS v2.0.  You 
> should do this to preserve your trademark protections too.
>
> Trying to find somebody on freelancer.com <http://freelancer.com> to 
> do work on FreeDOS-32 is going to fail.  It's just not going to 
> happen.  The crowd-sourcing programming sites attract people who are 
> very optimized to do a specific piece of work, such as making a new 
> web site using a particular framework.  Operating system skills and 
> DOS skills are not going to be available, and nobody is going to want 
> to trudge up the learning curve for a very limited duration gig.  
> FreeDOS contributors are hobbyists - they do it because they are 
> interested.  There is no financial incentive to work on it and the 
> knowledge is esoteric and not in demand.  It's not a good candidate 
> for outsourcing.
>
> The Kickstarter project may prove me wrong.  I am interested to see if 
> it does.  But at a minimum please consider throwing that project back 
> in its own namespace and not polluting "FreeDOS".
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Jim Hall <jh...@fr... 
> <mailto:jh...@fr...>> wrote:
>
>     Chelson Aitcheson has just started an independent Kickstarter
>     project to fund development for FreeDOS-32, in support of a
>     FreeDOS 2.0 distribution. I will also post a note about this on
>     the FreeDOS website, but I wanted to share a link here for those
>     who wanted to contribute.
>
>     https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1597889412/freedos-20-32-bit
>
>     The Kickstarter aims to raise $2,500 by Thursday, January 29 2015.
>     Chelson's goal is to hire public developers through freelancer.com
>     <http://freelancer.com> to improve FreeDOS-32. If FreeDOS-32 can
>     be significantly improved, Chelson hopes it will become part of
>     mainline FreeDOS.
>
>     I'll add that I haven't used FreeDOS-32 but if it supports classic
>     DOS programs on modern systems while adding new and useful
>     features, I would support that kernel update in FreeDOS 2.0.
>
+1

Anything "32 bit", unless it would refer to a DOSExtender, for which 
there are now at least a couple Open Source one, simply is not DOS 
anymore. And certainly nothing that would be able to run "classic DOS 
programs".
A better spend time (and money?) would be to convince someone at the 
SeaBIOS project to help providing an (U)EFI boot stub, upon which a 
"classic" 16bit FreeDOS then could boot just "like in the old days" on 
the newest systems...

Ralf


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