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Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos.img - spoke too soon
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From: Charles B. <chb...@gm...> - 2014-02-04 05:30:09
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Another things is I'm really developing a loathing for all this update update bullshit from software. I've found out they'll call home at the most inopportune time when you need high bandwidth for the task in hand. Took nearly a year to find out that was what was stalling the high speed work. I've hunted down and killed as many automatic update things on my Windows box as I can. Its boosted performance considerably. The crap is cross platform because Mozilla Adobe and the like are some of the main culprits. Inept codebusters who can't ever get it right once for all who have gotten too dependent on web updating to cover their incompetence. So watch out on developing that particular dependence. Collectively auto update games are wasting a whole lot of machine time and hundreds of person years when you consider the millions of people in the user base who typically waste a half hour a month on updating software. Web wage wankers are also wasting perhaps thousands or person years with this needy greedy model of delivering content for a single page from too many servers. They all gotta shake hands with Facebook, Twitter, Google Analylitics and all the adservers for each add. No matter how much bandwidth you have the routers and switchers just can't access all those servers any faster. I'm seeing evidence Google Analytics is wasting significant amount of client side resources to do its thing. Its really just a hit counter, but greed has distorted this once simple web page tool in a monster pig too. CB On 2/3/14, Charles Belhumeur <chb...@gm...> wrote: > Naw just more or less advising caution on creating too many flavors. > LINUX is kind of a mess like that now. Offputting to newbies who get > bogged down trying to find a flavor that fits. UBUNTU was actually > pretty good a few years ago and likely the best for home and small > business PC users. But it took a lot of research or trial and error > to find this out. Last time I tried it last year it was getting > kinda pig, resource hoggy and glitchy. You need a DVD disc to hold it > all now. And the LINUX wankers tend to overcomplicate their little > domain when talking to newbies. Fuck me XFree86 was a glitchy piece > of shit back in the late 1990s. Scared me off for a decade. > > So be careful not to wank it into many flavors with incompatible bits > here and there. > > I'm writing my own freeware and have before. I appreciate all the > volunteer work and level of difficulty for things like FreeDOS and > LINUX. I'm working hard at not wanking my own work into a piece of > crap. Always lots of ideas for tweaks once you get the core code > running. You have to choose wisely! > > CB. > > On 2/3/14, Jim Michaels <jmi...@ya...> wrote: >> >> >> if you are complaining at me, that's OK. I can handle it. my purpose in >> creating a distribution was to basically incorporate my DOS software >> toolset. I can always drop my dos versions of stuff if people are just >> plain >> opposed to it - things for me are hard enough as it is with not being >> able >> to compile any dos items anymore. 50 some-odd utilities I spent years >> developing and perfecting. >> >> unfortunately, it looks like it's going to be a while before I can even >> do >> that, since the cygwin version of djgpp which I need (I get my compiler >> from >> delorie.com) to compile stuff on x64 windows is in pre-alpha stage. >> >> I am still going over the legalities of selling under the GPL license. it >> looks like it's allowed for according to the GPL license FAQ (maybe >> getting >> confused with a post), and commercial stuff is allowed with LGPL. but I >> want >> to make sure of what forms of selling are allowed - I see selling of >> license >> exceptions like oracle does are encouraged, and selling of media is >> allowed, >> but not sure about anything else because I forget that easy. >> >> I do like the fact that so many software items are available for freedos. >> it >> makes freedos more usable. imagine if you had no cdrom drivers for >> instance, >> and no eltorito... you could not even get off the ground without a floppy >> which is nearly extinct, and you would need about 38+ floppies if you had >> a >> library of programs, and you would HOPE things fit. >> >> try being thankful? not sure exactly what you are aiming for - >> minimalism? >> >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Charles Belhumeur <chb...@gm...> >>>To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. >>> <fre...@li...> >>>Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:26 PM >>>Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos.img - spoke too soon >>> >>> >>>Hate to complain, but, you people are letting this initiative get away >>>from you like what happened to LINUX. Too many bits and pieces >>>cobbled together from here and there without the code writers knowing >>>enough about what the bits and pieces all do. And too many >>>distributions that confuse potential users about which one to use. >>>LINUX is as sorry an OS as Windows now, big, piggy and glitchy with no >>>one on the planet knowing exactly what all the bits and pieces are >>>doing, how they're interacting etc.. >>> >>>Don't tell me you have LINUX bits in FreeDos! I've seen some evidence >>>of this. If you have to borrow from them to write an OS as simple as >>>DOS then you're not up to the task and shouldn't bother. You're just >>>spoiling the whole initiative, wasting your time and you'll end up >>>withing nothing better than Windows or LINUX and quite likely >>>something worse nobody wants. >>> >>>Given the above and what I've read in this forum I've kinda lost >>>interest in FreeDos. >>> >>>Charlie B. >>> >>> >>> >>>On 1/18/14, Louis Santillan <lps...@gm...> wrote: >>>> I think it's worth mentioning that Bryan Lunduke has a FreeDOS distro, >>>> called LunDOS, with OpenGEM, a web browser. He uses it to develop >>>> Linux Tycoon for DOS. He distributes it as VirtualBox images and QEMU >>>> images. He posted that a 2.0 revamp was coming but nothing turned up >>>> yet. >>>> >>>> (scant) Info page >>>> <http://lunduke.com/2013/05/30/announcing-lundos/> >>>> >>>> Download page >>>> <http://lunduke.com/how-to-contribute/> >>>> >>>> -L >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >>>> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >>>> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >>>> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Freedos-devel mailing list >>>> Fre...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel >>> >>>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >>>Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >>>Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >>>Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >>>http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Freedos-devel mailing list >>>Fre...@li... >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel >>> >>> >>> > |