#381 FreeDOS's LABEL command doesn't accept German "(J)a" key as input

[Oliver]

I gave a formatted floppy disk a label with the command LABEL
Then i tried to remove it again with the same command.

But when i get ask byLABEL, if the Volume Label name should be deleted i can't answer the question with a German Ja, which means Yes in English.
The J key isn't accepted. The program ask continuously for an answer, until i use the English Ykey for YES.

The question printed by label is in German and expects a J for Ja (Yes) or an N for Nein (No).
Thus instead of the English (Y/N) i have (J/N).

There is only no difference in the negation, since the no begins with an N in both English and German. But in other languages it might be different.

See the screenshot for further details and as an example.

[fritz.mueller]

I just checked it, you are right. Interestingly most translators used their own language for Y/N, see:
https://github.com/shidel/fd-nls/tree/master/label/nls - should be available without password. So the problem is on the programmers side, not on the translators side. (I only work on FD help text and german NLS).
Please note that there is a version from 2021 that may differ, but I am sure that it is used in FDT230x. If I remember right, the older version 1.4b did not support NLS at all.
I will try to inform Andrew Bird about this problem. But if you have a closer look here at sourceforge you will notice that there is a bigger complex: label - format -fdisk-maybe others (dir, tree, whatever?) that do not yet really cooperate. The reason is that the label is written on two positions of the HD, in one case it is saved as "empty file". Maybe you remember. I am sure you will find it anywhere at the open tickets here.

BTW, as I just got you: It would be a great help if you could check the english FreeDOS help for bugs. I could send you a diskette with a new more stable htmlhelp trial version - or you can have a look at my website: https://www.bootablecd.de/FreeDOS-Internet-version/help110/en/index.htm
Would be great if you find missing "&" etc, I tried to fix them, but you never know. And it is better if they are fixed before 1.1.0 is published.
A download of development version 1.1.0 is also available:
https://www.bootablecd.de/FreeDOS-Internet-version/fdhelp-110.zip

Thanks for testing!

[fritz.mueller]

In about one year ago I asked Jim Hall what to do: Giving up htmlhelp and using only AMB or keeping both programs. He decided for keeping both.

The basic documentation of amb and htmlhelp is the same. And till now it had to be created with CPxxx. So if you wanted to translate it on modern machines you always had to look if you have chosen the correct codepage and to create a UTF-8-version to see if it is really correct. Basically htmlhelp was very buggy (crashed very often), it had UTF-8 support for the languages that were supported till now, but there were some bugs in the translation of UTF-8 to CPxxx. So help was never written in UTF-8 till now. Now there is a new version of htmlhelp that has no / lesser bugs, lets see...

Why UTF-8? Simple: I can use it for internet without the fear that users report problems, htmlhelp.exe supports it and AMB should have less problems to integrate it too. A win-win situation.

But why is the format in HTML? I thought the future FreeDOS documentation file format would use the AMB (Ancient Machine Book) format?
https://amb.osdn.io/

https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/ambread.html

[fritz.mueller]

for debug, follow on my website to debug and use: _debug.htm instead. I asked the programmer to correct it / add some text as I am not firm with this command. His response was a little unpolite, so I decided to keep it at the minimum and add a link to his complete documentation, two links to internet (browsers do not support direct linkt) and one link inside FD 1.x HD.
I will check the other proposals and add it if possible.

[fritz.mueller]

Thanks for proposals.
I will think about the capital letters although this will be a lot of work to change.

https://www.bootablecd.de/FreeDOS-Internet-version/help110/en/hhstndrd/authors/tags.htm
In actual only magenta is allowed. If I remember right, AMB supports no colors.

There is one big problem that is always forgotten:
The whole help will be written in different languages, means: the last version supported 4 languages, the next will support 5 languages. For this reason the basic (empty) help file is written as simple as possible with preformatted text to keep the whole file as small as possible. So you start each section with

 then blabla, then 

.
The more tags you add the more you have the danger that one of the translators overseas tags and the whole text (there will be hundreds of files in each language!!!) are not shown correct. I already had this problem with overlong text per line that causes ugly line breaks. I have a tool to check the whole help for broken links in one short job, but none for looking for bad / missing tabs in more than 1500 files . I know no W3C tool that supports them in one job. So I decided to use them only if absolutely necessary.

[fritz.mueller]

Could we discuss this theme via my mail account. name see left @mail.com ?
Thx

[fritz.mueller]

Hallo Oliver,

das ist erst einmal ein ping um zu sehen, daß die mail nicht doch wieder
im Forum rauskommt. Ist mir schon ein paarmal passiert, deshalb bin ich
etwas vorsichtig.

Willi

[fritz.mueller]

https://github.com/FDOS/label/issues/18

reported by cardpuncher, seems to be fixed.