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#3285 Several misleading/incorrect terrain texts

Fixed_1.0.0
closed-fixed
nobody
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2023-01-03
2022-09-02
Wuzzy
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There are a couple of misleading or wrong terrain texts in the game:

Rain forests produce Grain, Lumber, Furs, and some Ore, Sugar and Tobacco. They are found in the tropics and can be cleared to produce swamps.

Mistake: rain forests do not produce tobacco.

Boreal forests produce Grain, Lumber, Furs, and some Ore. They are found in the high latitudes and can be cleared to produce tundra.

Actually, they can be found in low latitudes (South) as well.

Marsh is a type of wetland, featuring grasses, rushes, reeds, typha, sedges, and other herbaceous plants in a context of shallow water. Marsh produces some Grain and Tobacco, as well as Ore. Marshes are mainly found in the high latitudes.

Actually, they can be found in low latitudes (South) as well.

Tundra is an area where the tree growth is hindered by low temperatures and short growing seasons. Tundra produces Grain and some Ore. It is found in the high latitudes.

Actually, they can be found in low latitudes (South) as well.

Arctic is mostly a vast, ice-covered ocean surrounded by treeless, frozen ground and produce nothing. They are found near the North and South Pole and can not support colonies.

This text is not true if you play on "very easy". In "very easy", you can build a colony on it and it produces 2 grain on the colony tile.

Version: 0.13.0-dev, commit cb10784763ce2a594dc5333ba83a56e197bc4e19.

Discussion

  • Mike Pope

    Mike Pope - 2022-09-05
    • status: open --> pending-fixed
    • Group: Current --> Fixed_trunk
     
  • Mike Pope

    Mike Pope - 2022-09-05

    Fixed in git.3856bae.

     
  • Wuzzy

    Wuzzy - 2022-09-06

    I saw the new texts. "High magnitude latitudes" sounds pretty technical/mathematical. I know what you mean ("the absolute value of the latitude") but it really sounds like "Programmer Language" and I find it hard to translate into German.
    In German, I paraphrased it with something like "$TERRAIN can be found high in the North as well as low in the South."

    As for the Arctic text change, I think it is fine for now although it's not clear what is meant with "usually". For the futue, it would be nice if the Colopedia texts would adapt to changes in the rules. I.e. a dynamic text or icon that appears when colonies cannot be built on this tile under the current rules.

     
    • Mike Pope

      Mike Pope - 2022-09-07

      "High magnitude latitudes"

      Would you prefer "polar latitudes"? English is not giving me much choice between technical and inaccurate while being concise.

      it's not clear what is meant with "usually"....it would be nice if the Colopedia texts would adapt to changes in the rules

      I think the intent of the Colopedia text is to warn that settling the polar regions is going to be impractical most of the time. We already do not precisely define what it means to "support colonies" --- does it count as supported if you constantly bring in food, does it count if the colony could work if there is a wheat resource or other tile improvement/s, does it count if the colony could produce enough food as long as it cleared all its wooded tiles? Even if I was confident I knew the Right Answer there, I would decline to bloat the colopedia with the required detail to explain it fully. Sometimes the player is just going to have to try it and see.

       
  • Wuzzy

    Wuzzy - 2022-09-11

    Hmm. "polar latitude" sounds wrong, because this sounds like it would only be exactly +90 and -90 only. Maybe "near the Polar circles"?

    {EDIT: Ignore the following part, it is incorrect}

    Oh, I overlooked it before (sorry!), but the rain forest string is still wrong:

    Rain forests produce Grain, Lumber, Furs, and some Ore and Sugar. They are found in the tropics and can be cleared to produce swamps.

    The rain forest does not produce furs either.

    EDIT: Nevermind, the rainforest string is correct now, I accidentally had a mod enabled.

     

    Last edit: Wuzzy 2022-09-11
    • Mike Pope

      Mike Pope - 2022-09-12

      "Arctic and Antarctic circles" sort of works, but we do not show them on the map so that may be confusing. I have compromised with "near the polar regions".

       
  • Wuzzy

    Wuzzy - 2022-09-13

    Perfect, thanks! I already updated the German translation.

     
  • Stian Grenborgen

    • status: pending-fixed --> closed-fixed
    • Group: Fixed_trunk --> Fixed_1.0.0
     

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