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Re: [Feedreader-development] Atom support hack

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Jim McKeeth <ji...@mc...> wrote:
>This is kind of a hack, but what do you think?  

I think this is a very nice idea for the moment.

Atom can't be that complicated. :o) As far as I understood we have to do
rss 2.00 anyway and this is different from .92 and 1.0. Seems to me - but
I am aware that I am not development - that this is "easy" and has to be
seperate modules anyway.

For the meantime: people using FR like using it for several reasons. They
don't like fr not to support atom. They don't like things like 'you can go
there and change this link plus plus plus' It has to be easy.

This is what you suggest - make it easy to use Atom right from FR. So this
seems like a good idea. BUT we have to state that this is the temporary
thing because Atom is going to be in it.

Toomas, Karsten, how about releasing a build? Or at least put entry on the
page which does not start with the date 2002? And perhaps name it 'take our
very stable beta except you have many feeds' :o)

Nicole




	
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[Feedreader-development] Atom support hack

[Jim M. <ji...@mc...>]

I just had a crazy idea to add Atom support really easily.

Atom is advocated by http://www.Blogger.com/ and you can read about it at 
http://www.AtomEnabled.org/

Anyway, there is a service provided by http://www.2rss.com/ that will 
convert Atom feeds to RSS feeds.  We could just automatically use that 
service to translate.  Here is an example translating the Atom feed from my 
blog:

http://www.2rss.com/atom2rss.php?atom=http%3A//www.mckeeth.org/bsdg/atom.xml

Here is their page about the service:

http://www.2rss.com/software.php?page=atom2rss

This is kind of a hack, but what do you think?  It would only work for 
feeds on the public Internet, which would cover most of them.  I have not 
delved deeply into Atom yet to see what would be involved in translating it.

-Jim

Re: [Feedreader-development] Build 633

[Karsten H. <kh...@kh...>]

The link is

http://www.khoffrath.de/projects/feedreader

Karsten Hoffrath wrote:

> Build 633 is online.
> 
> It should fix the problem with the empty lines in the xml files.
> 
> 
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> 
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[Feedreader-development] Build 633

[Karsten H. <kh...@kh...>]

Build 633 is online.

It should fix the problem with the empty lines in the xml files.


Karsten

[Feedreader-development] Re: CVS access to source code

[Jim M. <ji...@mc...>]

Ok, being stubborn paid off.  I got the command-line to work.  Now to 
reconcile my changes to the latest source code.

At 05:17 PM 3/15/2004 -0700, Jim McKeeth wrote:
>I am not able to get access to the source via cvs.  I tried both WinCVS 
>and command-line, and both tell me
>
>cvs login: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected 
>access to /cvsroot/feedreader for user anonymous
>
>Can I just get a snapshot?  The changes I made were to 610 build, which I 
>realize now is very old.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Jim

[Feedreader-development] CVS access to source code

[Jim M. <ji...@mc...>]

I am not able to get access to the source via cvs.  I tried both WinCVS and 
command-line, and both tell me

cvs login: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected access 
to /cvsroot/feedreader for user anonymous

Can I just get a snapshot?  The changes I made were to 610 build, which I 
realize now is very old.

Thanks,

-Jim

Re: [Feedreader-development] Use Gecko-Engine (Mozilla) instead of IE

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

As I am not into development just a note from the 'making side':
blogs tend to use heavily css to make the 2/3 column design in fluid or
fixed.

IE is a nightmare to deal with if you want so. because of all the glitches
and the fixes needed to have it display blogs 'correctly'. Mozilla is far
more advanced and does what it should according to the css. 

If we are talking about more than 'view my rss feed' then moving from ie to
a gecko engine is good, moving to a light html display is probably bad. 

(I don't use the viewer in fr for more then display of the feed but open my
headlines in my browser)



Nicole
	
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[Feedreader-development] Use Gecko-Engine (Mozilla) instead of IE

[Jim M. <ji...@mc...>]

What is the reason for moving from IE to Mozilla?  Not that I am debating 
if this is good idea or not, just curious.  Have you considered using 
PBear's ThtmlLite HTML Viewer Component instead?  Or is this for Kylix 
compatibility (PBear is windows only).  I know Kylix uses Mozilla 
internally to display some HTML. . . .

Just thoughts,

-Jim

Re: [Feedreader-development] Nicole's mails compiled ;)

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Karsten Hoffrath <kh...@kh...> wrote:
><update indicator>
>FR has to check every update if such an option exists.

could have but I was talking about initial subscribe.
This is the time when I decide how often something is updated.

><autosave>
>You will get your button ;). I had to find a way to create a copy of the 
>database in memory, so that saving doesn't interfere with updates, etc. 
>I think i found it.

If I could start not only updates in general or for just one feed but on
folder level (update this folder now) I would have my 'states' where save
would be good. At the moment it is starting all over again if I save in the
middle.

><notification windows>
>Yep, i see this too. Obviously it happens when the feeds are organized 
>in folders. I have one feed which is not in a folder and i get a 
>notification window for this one.

Yes that it is.


>Ok, let me re-phrase this to be sure what you mean:
>You click on one feed to update it, then, while this feed is updated, 
>you click on the next feed to update this, and so on. Later, you click 
>on the 'first' feed again, to read it.

Yes. I click 5 feeds in 5 seconds and wait.

>But when a feed is updated, FR tries to show the headlines from the last 
>updated headline.

Yes. Because I start reading in the maintime, fr jumps to a feed I am not
reading at the moment.

>With click you mean right-click and choose 'Update this feed'?

No. Click on the feed with left. This seems to trigger 'get feed'

>This is by design. If you choose to update just one feed, FR will fill 
>the listview with the headlines of the updated feed once its finished.

That's bullshit if I am not on this feed in the treeview anymore.

I do get a sign that it has catched everything - the bold messages.

Problem is: 
If I click my 5 feeds and then reclick one of them, the display for all
catched feeds changes the headline view. At the end of it, my treeview is
highlighted at feed 1 - but I don't know which is the feed which is
displayed.

Nicole
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] if no unread message is available

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Karsten Hoffrath <kh...@kh...> wrote:
>What do you mean with gone? Away, not visible?! 

Yes. White space instead. Application is not responding.

>Could you update other feeds? Do you have to re-start FR? 

I have to kill the process. 

Nicole
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] FR crash

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Karsten Hoffrath <kh...@kh...> wrote:
>Is is possible, that an update started just when you when you marked a 
>message?

Of course. Or do you expect me to wait until the messages are all fetched I
start reading? ;o)

But, in the last time I did leave it 'alone' to not interfere with updates
but it did the 'mark all read' also.

But to be precise:
Access violation also happened when fr was in background and nothing was
happening / done to it.

Nicole
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] FR crash

[Karsten H. <kh...@kh...>]

Is is possible, that an update started just when you when you marked a 
message?
I'm digging through the code to find situations when the user marks a 
feed read and the program writes to the feed at the same time. It's 
possible that in such a case FR crashs.

Karsten

Nicole Simon wrote:
> :o( Only some 30-40 feeds through and already everything marked, fr crashed.
> 
> 
> Access violation at address 00402290 in module 'FeedReader.exe'. Write of
> address A65A0E04
> --------------------------
> Access violation at address 00402290 in module 'FeedReader.exe'. Write of
> address A65A0E04
> --------------------------
> 
> 
> This is all I got because I had to close it by task manager.
> 
> Maybe it is because of too many feeds as I am seem to be the only one with 
> this problem?
> 
> btw opml: I wanted to get rid of the possibility that somethings in the
> feedlist ist wrong but my Feedreader does not recognize its own export.
> 
> Nicole
> 	

[Feedreader-development] Nicole's mails compiled ;)

[Karsten H. <kh...@kh...>]

<Beautify xml +  extra lines>
Ok, i will check why the extra lines are added. I haven't touched this 
code so it's very strange that extra lines are added.


<update indicator>
FR has to check every update if such an option exists.


<autosave>
You will get your button ;). I had to find a way to create a copy of the 
database in memory, so that saving doesn't interfere with updates, etc. 
I think i found it.


<notification windows>
Yep, i see this too. Obviously it happens when the feeds are organized 
in folders. I have one feed which is not in a folder and i get a 
notification window for this one.


<Feed updates confuses FR?>
 >Is it possivle, that fr tries to display the headlines of the just 
 >fetched feed in the treeview?

 >If I start FR, click some feeds (to fetch them) it seems as if it is 
 >trying to catch up in displaying (and gets confused). I want to click 
 >them and then click again on an already fetched one to start reading. 
 >It looks like it pops up the new fetched headlines from the others or 
 >jumps to the new headlines as if it wants to show 'look what i've got!'

Ok, let me re-phrase this to be sure what you mean:
You click on one feed to update it, then, while this feed is updated, 
you click on the next feed to update this, and so on. Later, you click 
on the 'first' feed again, to read it.
But when a feed is updated, FR tries to show the headlines from the last 
updated headline.

With click you mean right-click and choose 'Update this feed'?

Correct?

This is by design. If you choose to update just one feed, FR will fill 
the listview with the headlines of the updated feed once its finished.



Karsten

Re: [Feedreader-development] if no unread message is available

[Karsten H. <kh...@kh...>]

Nicole Simon wrote:
> 
> I had some feeds catched, the global update had not begun.
> After skipping through all of them, no message was left. Instead of giving
> me the message, toolbars has gone.

What do you mean with gone? Away, not visible?! Could you update other 
feeds? Do you have to re-start FR? I think this could be such a case 
which i described in my other mail about your crash.


Karsten

[Feedreader-development] if no unread message is available

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

I had some feeds catched, the global update had not begun.
After skipping through all of them, no message was left. Instead of giving
me the message, toolbars has gone.

Ideas:
Next unread message is the feed just beeing catched and therefor fr mixes
up?

We had it already that the toolbar makes problems. I don't know if it would
be worth it to let out the complete toolbar to track down if it interferes.
(I do have shortcuts now for marking read and jumping.)

Nicole

	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] Re:

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Nicole Simon <ni...@gn...> wrote:
>can you beautify it to not generate an extra blank line with a few spaces
>in it after each line of xml information. It trims down my 7 mb headlines
>to 6,3 - I still have the suspicion that size matters when crashing the
>database.

Speaking of which - have you added more lines?!
File looks now 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<headlines>

      <item>

         <hlid>63214903953531</hlid>

      

         <guid>302@http://beissholz.de/artikel/</guid>



and should better be
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<headlines>
      <item>
         <hlid>63214903953531</hlid>
         <guid>302@http://beissholz.de/artikel/</guid>


Nicole
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] New build online.

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

:o( Only some 30-40 feeds through and already everything marked, fr crashed.


Access violation at address 00402290 in module 'FeedReader.exe'. Write of
address A65A0E04
--------------------------
Access violation at address 00402290 in module 'FeedReader.exe'. Write of
address A65A0E04
--------------------------


This is all I got because I had to close it by task manager.

Maybe it is because of too many feeds as I am seem to be the only one with 
this problem?

btw opml: I wanted to get rid of the possibility that somethings in the
feedlist ist wrong but my Feedreader does not recognize its own export.

Nicole
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] New build online.

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Karsten Hoffrath <kh...@kh...> wrote:
>   Nicole could you send me the file when the 'crash' happens?
>   Please note that the logfile includes the urls for the feeds which
>   failed. You can delete them, if they are sensible.

I will write an awk skript as I figure I will send you not only once this
file ;o))

Nicole
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] Re:

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Karsten Hoffrath <kh...@kh...> wrote:
>We use a patch to 'beautify' the xml when it is written to the disk.
>If this works with 2.4 too, i think we can upgrade.

can you beautify it to not generate an extra blank line with a few spaces
in it after each line of xml information. It trims down my 7 mb headlines
to 6,3 - I still have the suspicion that size matters when crashing the
database.

>Most of it cames from Nicole who is a nice tester. Every developer 
>should have testers like her. Thanks for your efforts Nicole!

*lol* feed me cookies and I might not bite you ;o))


>* Additional refresh intervalls 1 and 3 minutes. Requested by a user. Makes
>   sense for local feeds.

Even though it is set wrong by my blog software, I figured, that there is
an indicator for how often something is updated.
 		<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
		<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>

Feedreader might take this and suggests how often something is updated when
a feed is added. If it does not find it, <default< should be selected and a
drop down of available times. It belongs to 'new feed' plus it could be a
very visible addition. This is a 'after next release' thing ;)

>* Implement a autosave feature.
>   A function that makes a snapshot of the actual feed informations, 
>creates a background thread and saves the information to the harddisk. 
>All this without interrupting the user.
>   Create the xml files in a temporary directory. When finished, move 
>them to the original data directory.
>   If programm closes in the meantime, react accordingly.
>   Create action so that the user can save if he wishes.

Remember people like me with many feeds and this constantly crashing the
database. As I suggested before, please give me a 'save now' button so I
don't have to close and reopen fr.


>- New notification window (like MSN/Mozilla Thunderbird).

btw is there a reason I don't get this anymore? Have I missed a 'stop
popping up'? Only my new amazon feed did this for two times but stopped
also



>Default values on installation:
>-------------------------------
>* set default feed refresh to 1 hour
>* disable Javascript

We have this already.

>Usability:
>----------
>* If focus on treeview or listview then pressing space jumps to the next 
>unread
>   message.

also

>* When jumping with tab from treeview to headline, browser window is not
>   updated with this first headline.


Is it possivle, that fr tries to display the headlines of the just fetched
feed in the treeview?

If I start FR, click some feeds (to fetch them) it seems as if it is trying
to catch up in displaying (and gets confused). I want to click them and
then click again on an already fetched one to start reading. It looks like
it pops up the new fetched headlines from the others or jumps to the new
headlines as if it wants to show 'look what i've got!'

>* Splash Screen could perhaps show version number

have it.

So, now I am going to test the new version and am hoping to get some feeds
for the first time this week *sigh*
Nicole
	
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[Feedreader-development] Welcome and future

[Toomas T. <to...@i-...>]

Hello! And welcome to the list :)!

At the moment top priority is to get release out to users. Last release 
was  more than half a year ago. There are about 400 downloads a day and 
it's a pity , they all download old version.

There are some showstoppers for this release. New build is ready and i 
think we should test it and if there are no problems, let's release it.

And after release we should implement new features. For example i use 
firefox with addblock and i really like it (no adds). So if we could 
change embbededwb to mozilla that would be real breakthrough. Same goes 
to different rss and other standards.

At the same time in my opinion our goal should be that feedreader stays 
simple and not bloated. i have tested some other rss readers and even if 
i tried them a lot i could not convert :).

What about your future ideas, Jim?

P.S. Today one of our users made donation to our project. 8.85 dollars 
:). Money went to my paypal account i made after this notification. So, 
let's make a party in some time :). By the way, it's not possible to 
have paypal account for estonia, so i do not know whaty happens to my 
fakecountry account.

Greetings
Toomas

>
>
> Is there a project vision?  Are we trying to make it compatible with 
> specific favors of Delphi?  What about Kylix support?
>
> Are there plans to add Atom, RSS 2.0 or RDF support?  I have found 
> Delphi components for the latter two, but it would probably be an 
> overhaul to start using those.
>

Re: [Feedreader-development] Re:

[Karsten H. <kh...@kh...>]

Hi there and welcome to the list ;).

Jim McKeeth wrote:
> I am now subscribed to the developers list.  Hello all.
> 
> I made a few changes already (to the source code snapshot, not the VNC 
> code).
> 
> I upgraded to XDOM_2_4 form XDOM_2_3.  This was originally because I 
> could not find 2_3, but I later found it.  2_4 seems to work, and it is 
> a bug fix on 2_3.  Is there any reason to stay with 2_3?
> 

We use a patch to 'beautify' the xml when it is written to the disk.
If this works with 2.4 too, i think we can upgrade.

> I fixed the navigation bar (forward and backward buttons).  The navbar 
> does disappear when the user comes back from aquarium mode.  I was going 
> to address that but I couldn't find the implementation of 
> "actAquaraiumViewExecute", which is really puzzling, yet my code 
> compiles. . . .

All action methods are in 'MainForm_Actions.inc'. Puzzled me too at the 
beginning :).

> 
> I also modified the main form so that the CoolTrayIcon and EmbededWB are 
> created dynamically, thus making it so the project can be opened and 
> edited without having those components installed into the IDE.  This is 
> kind of just a petpeve since I dislike needing to install so many 
> component when I work on a project.
> 
> How different is the snapshot from the CVS?  Just trying to decide the 

What snapshot did you use?

> best way to merge my changes in.  I'll admit that I am a CVS novice 
> (used it a little bit, but not in a while. . . .)  But I am sure I can 

No problem, me too, just be sure you save the forms as text. I once had 
a hard night, when i accidently turned this off *blinks to Toomas*.
Do you have a cvs client? I use WinCVS but there is also TortoiseCVS.

> figure it out quickly.  I am currently using ClearCase under HPUX 
> (non-Delphi Development).
> 
> Is there a project vision?  Are we trying to make it compatible with 
> specific favors of Delphi?  What about Kylix support?

Hmm, yes Kylix. The problem here is the EmbeddedWB. I once looked into 
the option to use Mozilla. It is possible, but at the moment there are 
other things which has priority.

> 
> Are there plans to add Atom, RSS 2.0 or RDF support?  I have found 
> Delphi components for the latter two, but it would probably be an 
> overhaul to start using those.

They are on my list (see below). I wouldn't use the components, but 
enhance the existing code. Shouldn't be too difficult.
Do you have a short sum up of the different 'standards'?


Karsten



Here is a list which got longer and longer the last three months.

Most of it cames from Nicole who is a nice tester. Every developer 
should have testers like her. Thanks for your efforts Nicole!

Just choose where you want to begin :-):

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I can't mark all news of this folder read?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I do have
My feeds
    feed 1
    feed 2
    feed 3
    feed 4
    feed 5
    feed a

I want to drag feed a to be the first of my feeds - I can't. (You can't
move single feeds between folders either - they always go into a folder)

I could move feed 5 (which opens up with all entries and makes it therefor
hard to move) down feed a and then 4,3,2,1 but I am talking about 20
folders I would have to move - btw for a folder names watch with the
xml-feed from the forum if it helps ;o)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
open Folder
in case of drag and drop - wait ~ 2 sec and if the mouse is still over this
folder, open it.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Most of the possible commands which are available
for a toolbar are not available via menue. :o)


Default values on installation:
-------------------------------


Usability:
----------
* Allow feed subscribtions by connecting to an internal webserver and 
giving a
   special command.

* Change the way translations are made. Use ini-style format files. See 
IZArc as
   example.

* When creating the news overview for the internal webserver, sort the 
news the
   other way around. Newest first.

* Possible crash:
   Feed is getting updated and in the same moment the feed is marked as 
read.
   Test this.

* a search for feedname / feedurl feature.
   I often have to guess or open up directy the subsriptionfile to check if
   i have already subscribed this feed (warning someday would be nice too)

* if I search headlines, I would like them sorted by date, not by feedname
   and then date (that is what i asume it is).

* if i search something and then click the headline (or the feedname in
   browser window if you like) I would like the feed to be selected in 
feedtree

* Order of news overview? Jiri.


Options:
--------
* Additional refresh intervalls 1 and 3 minutes. Requested by a user. Makes
   sense for local feeds.


Misc:
-----
* Implement namespaces in rss (e.g. www.golem.de). Is this RSS2.0?

* Implement RSS2.0, Atom, etc.
   Main problem is that if the title-tag is empty the description tag is 
used
   in the column 'Title' within Feedreader.
   If the description contains linebreaks and/or links, the output looks 
'strange'.
   The description in the webbrowser is also kind of 'wrong'.
   See bottom of this file for an example xml file.

* Implement a watchdog for the refresh threads so that 'hung' threads will
   get killed. (Should be done by setting the timeout property of the 
TIdHTTP
   component witch retrieves the xml. Needs testing.).

* Implement a autosave feature.
   A function that makes a snapshot of the actual feed informations, 
creates a
   background thread and saves the information to the harddisk. All this 
without
   interrupting the user.
   Create the xml files in a temporary directory. When finished, move 
them to the
   original data directory.
   If programm closes in the meantime, react accordingly.
   Create action so that the user can save if he wishes.



After next release:
-------------------
- Make translations to other languages easier/possible.
   With the xml format it's hard to impossible to translate Feedreader to
   other languages. I have a translation to czech but it isn't working 
because
   the xml parser dies at some special characters.
   Also translating to arabic or other languages which use right to left 
mode
   can't be done in the way we handle this at the moment.
   Maybe we should swith to another translation format which doesn't 
need the xml
   parser.
- Make steping back the last seen message possible.
- Delete single/multiple headlines from a feed.
- New notification window (like MSN/Mozilla Thunderbird).
- Show the URL for a headline somewhere.
- Use Gecko-Engine (Mozilla) instead of Internet Explorer (for the internal
   browser window).
- Look into problems with feeds from Haloscan (see Feedreader-Forum
   http://www.feedreader.com/node.php?id=331) maybe also RSS2.0.




RSS2.0 example:
---------------
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<rss version="2.0">
	<channel>
		<title>Break FeedReader</title>
		<link>http://www.stormwerks.com/linked</link>
		<description>Should break FeedReader</description>

		<item>
			<title></title>
			<description>
			The next description will break FeedReader.
			</description>
		</item>
		<item>
			<title></title>
			<description>
				Text&lt;a 
href=http://www.wildgames.com/ECS/htdocs/gameinfo.aspx?dp=wildgames&amp;itemname=polarbowler&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;.
			</description>
		</item>

	</channel>
</rss>



********************************************************************************
*                                      Done 
        *
********************************************************************************

Default values on installation:
-------------------------------
* set default feed refresh to 1 hour
* disable Javascript
* enable confirmation window when jumping to next unread message results in
   changing to another feed.


Usability:
----------
* If focus on treeview or listview then pressing space jumps to the next 
unread
   message.

* My feeds misses an 'add folder / feed' feature (right-click menue always
   offers the features which are useful in this context).
   The popup menues now have the needed actions.

* Rename folders / feed.

* Start/stop webservers after changing properties. At the moment the changes
   just take effect if Feedreader is restarted.

* When jumping with tab from treeview to headline, browser window is not
   updated with this first headline.

* Empty rows in toolbar shouldn't appear anymore.

* Splash Screen could perhaps show version number

* I have always disliked this 'explode the tree the minute you click it'
   feature, because it it not windows standard. Windows standard is:
   one click - mark it
   double click - open it

* Window full screen mode. Minimize it (or close it via ESC), then open 
it again
   by doubleclicking on the programm icon in the systray.
   Now the window is full screen, even if you click on the tile button 
in the
   title bar.


* Clicked with the mouse into the listview.
   Pressing Ctrl-z (next unread message) jumps to  the next unread message.
   But the previous item in the listview remains 'Selected'.
   If you now navigate with the cursor keys the focus jumps back to the 
previous
   message and this message is shown again.


* Standing on the treeview, pressing tab (or Ctrl-Tab) focusses the 
listview.
   If a headline is selected it should focus this headline, otherwise 
the first
   headline. (s. Breakpunkte)


* 'mark all news' / 'mark all headlines read' is confusing.
   Better:
   'Mark all feeds read' -> the action which marks all headlines 
everywhere read
   'Mark current feed read' -> the action which marks all feeds in the 
current
   feed read


* Menu 'Actions' -> '&Mark all news as read':
   If point 1 under usability is done, delete the shortcut Alt-M. It 
doesn't work,
   the shortcut for this function is Ctrl-r.
   Adjust translation files!


* All appearances of the buttons 'OK' and 'Cancel':
   Change every appearance to
                                                         Ok     Cancel
   Give them working shortcuts Alt-o and Alt-c.
   Adjust translation files!

   Adjust tab stops.


* Pressing Esc in a child window (e.g. properties) does not minimize the 
main
   window anymore.


* Customize toolbar. Exit and restart Feedreader. The new toolbar 
buttons now
   have not working shortcuts.


* Window 'Adding new Feed':
   When standing on a folder when the methode is called, the add new 
feed should
   have this folder set as suggestion.

   Give editfields for 'Name' and 'Folder' shortcuts Alt-n, Alt-f.
   Adjust translation files!

   Set initial focus to edit for 'Name'. Fix Tabstops for the whole form.

   Pressing Esc closes the window and the whole Feedreader window! Fix this.

Please test!


* When creating news overview, show Hourglass cursor and do
   Application.ProcessMessages.


* When creating a new feed, let the folder default to the actual active 
folder.


Options:
--------
* Confirmation window when jumping to the next unread message means 
switching to
   another feed. Default to off.
   Adjust translation files!

* Implement OPML im-/export.

Misc:
-----
* Internal webservers should only allow connects from localhost.
   At the moment everyone can connect to the servers.





> 
> A little about me: I like to program in Delphi.  Been doing it pretty 
> much full time for 7 years (since D2).  I spoke at BorCon last year ( 
> http://www.bsdg.org/jim/Peer2Peer/Paper/3214.html ) and recently 
> contributed an article for BDN ( 
> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,31905,00.html ).  Nothing too 
> exciting.  I really like FeedReader and look forward to contributing more.
> 
> At 11:40 AM 3/12/2004 +0200, Toomas Toots wrote:
> 
>> Hello!
>>
>> Thanks for your letter/support. I do not want to get away from Feedreader
>> completely. In fact I even do a little developing at the moment. I 
>> guess we need
>> exactly what you are talking about :)... At the moment there are one 
>> developer
>> besides me who does programming. There are some bug trackers.
>>
>> I guess it\'s the best if you subscribe to feedreader-development 
>> mailing list
>> and we can carry on there... Alsu you can check out our dev 
>> mailinglist archives
>> in sourceforge site.
>>
>>
>> Greetings.
>> Toomas
>>
>> Jim McKeeth wrote:
>>
>> > Tom,
>> >
>> > I read your post that you are looking for a developer to take over main
>> development for FeedReader.  Are you wanting to get away from it 
>> completely, or
>> do you just need someone to help lighten the load?  I would be willing 
>> to help
>> contribute and maintain the code, but I doubt I am ready to take over 
>> the main
>> development on my own.
>> >
>> > Let me know if you would be interested in working with me on this.
>> >
>> > -Jim McKeeth
>> >
> 
> 
> 
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[Feedreader-development] New build online.

[Karsten H. <kh...@kh...>]

Hi list.

Build 632 is online:

http://www.khoffrath.de/projects/feedreader

Changes:
- Problem with 'hanging' updates should be fixed.
   It could happen, that if a feed couldn't get updated, FR will stop
   updating feeds, until it is restarted. I added a timeout of 15 sec.
   after which FR reports an error and continous.
   Toomas, i think you reported this. Could you please test it?

- If retrieving of feeds fails, a log file will be written to the
   program directory. Name is 'Debug.txt'.
   Disable "Show XML error" in the properties, the file will be written
   anyway.
   Nicole could you send me the file when the 'crash' happens?
   Please note that the logfile includes the urls for the feeds which
   failed. You can delete them, if they are sensible.


Karsten

Re: [Feedreader-development] Re:

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Hi Jim,

great seeing you on board. :o)

A great issue at the moment (at least for me) is the fact that Feedreader
runs through all my feeds, marking them read and crashes. I think Toomas
said something about memory management?

Karsten promised me ;o) a new version fro this weekend, so you might want
to test your changes against that.

Nicole
	
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[Feedreader-development] Re:

[Jim M. <ji...@mc...>]

I am now subscribed to the developers list.  Hello all.

I made a few changes already (to the source code snapshot, not the VNC code).

I upgraded to XDOM_2_4 form XDOM_2_3.  This was originally because I could 
not find 2_3, but I later found it.  2_4 seems to work, and it is a bug fix 
on 2_3.  Is there any reason to stay with 2_3?

I fixed the navigation bar (forward and backward buttons).  The navbar does 
disappear when the user comes back from aquarium mode.  I was going to 
address that but I couldn't find the implementation of 
"actAquaraiumViewExecute", which is really puzzling, yet my code compiles. 
. . .

I also modified the main form so that the CoolTrayIcon and EmbededWB are 
created dynamically, thus making it so the project can be opened and edited 
without having those components installed into the IDE.  This is kind of 
just a petpeve since I dislike needing to install so many component when I 
work on a project.

How different is the snapshot from the CVS?  Just trying to decide the best 
way to merge my changes in.  I'll admit that I am a CVS novice (used it a 
little bit, but not in a while. . . .)  But I am sure I can figure it out 
quickly.  I am currently using ClearCase under HPUX (non-Delphi Development).

Is there a project vision?  Are we trying to make it compatible with 
specific favors of Delphi?  What about Kylix support?

Are there plans to add Atom, RSS 2.0 or RDF support?  I have found Delphi 
components for the latter two, but it would probably be an overhaul to 
start using those.

A little about me: I like to program in Delphi.  Been doing it pretty much 
full time for 7 years (since D2).  I spoke at BorCon last year ( 
http://www.bsdg.org/jim/Peer2Peer/Paper/3214.html ) and recently 
contributed an article for BDN ( 
http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,31905,00.html ).  Nothing too 
exciting.  I really like FeedReader and look forward to contributing more.

At 11:40 AM 3/12/2004 +0200, Toomas Toots wrote:
>Hello!
>
>Thanks for your letter/support. I do not want to get away from Feedreader
>completely. In fact I even do a little developing at the moment. I guess 
>we need
>exactly what you are talking about :)... At the moment there are one developer
>besides me who does programming. There are some bug trackers.
>
>I guess it\'s the best if you subscribe to feedreader-development mailing list
>and we can carry on there... Alsu you can check out our dev mailinglist 
>archives
>in sourceforge site.
>
>
>Greetings.
>Toomas
>
>Jim McKeeth wrote:
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > I read your post that you are looking for a developer to take over main
>development for FeedReader.  Are you wanting to get away from it 
>completely, or
>do you just need someone to help lighten the load?  I would be willing to help
>contribute and maintain the code, but I doubt I am ready to take over the main
>development on my own.
> >
> > Let me know if you would be interested in working with me on this.
> >
> > -Jim McKeeth
> >

[Feedreader-development] (no subject)

[Toomas T. <to...@se...>]

Hello!

Thanks for your letter/support. I do not want to get away from Feedreader
completely. In fact I even do a little developing at the moment. I guess we need
exactly what you are talking about :)... At the moment there are one developer
besides me who does programming. There are some bug trackers.

I guess it\'s the best if you subscribe to feedreader-development mailing list
and we can carry on there... Alsu you can check out our dev mailinglist archives
in sourceforge site.


Greetings.
Toomas

Jim McKeeth wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I read your post that you are looking for a developer to take over main
development for FeedReader.  Are you wanting to get away from it completely, or
do you just need someone to help lighten the load?  I would be willing to help
contribute and maintain the code, but I doubt I am ready to take over the main
development on my own.
>
> Let me know if you would be interested in working with me on this.
>
> -Jim McKeeth
>