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Re: [Feedreader-development] Feedback on 616, mainly opml

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

I haven't touched this form for now, so i add this things to my todo list.

Nicole Simon wrote:

> Feedback on 616, as usual most on usability ;o))
> as usual i am better in giving feedback on things.
> btw so that I don't forget it - thanks for the fine work :o)
> 
> - rename folder
>   The usual Key for rename is f2
>   the border left / right is a bit thick 
> 
> 
> - right-click on taskbar icon, choose close does minimize 
>   instead of closing it.
>   Option 'minimize on close button' is different 
>   action than this one!
> 
> 
> - File 'changes' could display build number after date 
>   so it is easier to keep track of which version is what.
> 
> 
> - default ending for opml-files is - opml.
> 
> 
> - import opml dialog 
>   (has no cancel button // has no shortcuts)
>   has irritating structur.
>   i asume i should browse first, then select, then import.
> 
>   but I could type in the name of a file and then what?
> 
>   The dialog itself from top to bottom should lead me
>   like a wizard. Top comes first, end is last.
> 
> On Import does import mean import list for display? import for import?
> On   [Select all] [Unselect all]  
>      these are two functions, not one!
> 
> On   Feeds found:
>      I am missing an indicator that I have already added this feed.
>      Asume I want to seperate my new feeds - how do I keep track of 
>      which one I have already added?
>      I would add a "filed in folder" column to 'feeds found' or 
>      a little icon as 'added'
> 
> On   Close: does close import? before? Where is [ Abort ]?
> 
> If not to complicated I would suggest also a "remove selected". Otherwise I
> would have to end this import, go to the place where I have added it and
> then delete it there if I accidently got one wrong. 
> 
> To get rid of this litte workarounds, I suggest this kind of dialog:
> (// or [// means greyed out. (Only available functions are to be enabled.)
> 
> |  [ Select all ] [// Unselect all]
> |  [// reset set place on selected ] [// reset all set places ] 
> split in two lines for display in this messges, could be one line
> 
> 
> Initial display:
> 
> #   Filename: [                               ] [ Browse ]
> 
> #   [// Import file for display ]   
> #   
> #   Feeds found:
> #     place to add to | name   | description
> #   [
> #    
> #    
> #                                                      ]
> #  [ Select all ] [// Unselect all]
> #  [// reset set place on selected ] [// reset all set places ] 
> 
> #   File to folder: [//<bottom>                 ] [//set selected]
> 
> #                                           [// Import ] [ Abort ]
> #   (//Import only adds feeds to selected places, the rest is ignored.)
> 
> 
> Focus on: [Browse]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> First step: Either I browse a filenname or I do insert it manually. As soon
> as I insert one char,   [ Import file for display ]   gets enabled.
> 
> Then I press   [ Import file for display ]   
> 
> If file contains no feed, message is displayed "no feeds found" (= yes, I
> did something but hey, there are no feeds!)
> 
> If successfull: Focus on first feed, most of the buttons are enabled now.
> 
> 
> #   Filename: [ nameoffile                    ] [Browse]
> 
> #   [ Import file for display ]   
> #   
> #   Feeds found:
> #   place to add to   | name   | description
> #   [ < no import>    | feed a | description  a         (selected)
> #     < no import>    | feed b | description  b
> #     < no import>    | feed c | description  c
> #                                                      ]
> #  [ Select all ] [// Unselect all]
> #  [// reset set place on selected ] [// reset all set places ] 
> 
> #   File to folder: [<end>               ] [set for selected feed]
> 
> #                                       [// Import ] [ Abort ]
> #   (Import only adds feeds to selected places, the rest is ignored.)
> 
> As soon as 
>  - more than one feed is selected, unselect all is enabled.
>  - one place is selected,  [ reset all set places ] is enabled.
>  - one feed has a selection, [ reset set place on selected ] is enabled. 
>  - one feed has a selection, [ Import ] is enabled
> 
> As soon as 
>  - only one feed is selected, unselect all is disabled.
>  - no place is selected,  [ reset all set places ] is disabled.
>  - one feed has a selection and no place [ reset set place on selected ]
>    is disabled. 
>  - no feed has a selection, [ Import ] is disabled.
> 
> Notes:
> |  Feeds found:
> |  place to add to   | name   | description
> 
> It is called "Feeds found". "Feeds name", "Feeds description" is
> redundandent
> 
> Where to file, content of dropdownbox, (end) selected on initial
>    (end)
>    (top)
>    (none)
>    folder a
>    folder b
>    folder c
>    folder d
> 
> 
> If I have set everything to my desire, I finally press Import or Abort.
> 
> 
> Does someone has a link from where I could test an import?
> The ones from http://www.rss-verzeichnis.de won't work nor the one from
> feedreader itself. 
> 
> Nicole
> 	

Re: [Feedreader-development] It's toolbarsettings.bin!

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

Hi and a happy new year to everyone ;)


Nicole Simon wrote:
> Hi everybody :o)
> With 50 new feeds to be added I was getting grumpy on this not working "add
> feed" thing. I tracked it down: If I delete my toolbarsettings.bin, several
> errors disappear!
> 
> 
> 616 still ignored programm property setting "Open maximized". Flickers and
> then minimizes in a little bar at the top of taskbar. Doubleclick on title
> bar leads to resized status, again dblclick finally maximizes.
> 
> 'add new feed' ist broken. If I reopen my feeds with 610, there is no
> problem adding feeds. I erased all files (except Toolbarsettings.bin /
> Feedreader.ini) to check whether a maximum was reached but even with no
> feeds in it there is no difference.
> 
> erased toolbarsettings.bin:
> FR starts resized modus, then maximizes automaticly as it should do.
> Add Feed works again.
> 
> btw I just changed the toolbar once - at the start to get the buttons I
> want. I would asume that all this updates on graphical things infects
> somehow the toolbar.

So all errors are gone or are there still some?



Karsten

[Feedreader-development] Feedback on 616, mainly opml

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Feedback on 616, as usual most on usability ;o))
as usual i am better in giving feedback on things.
btw so that I don't forget it - thanks for the fine work :o)

- rename folder
  The usual Key for rename is f2
  the border left / right is a bit thick 


- right-click on taskbar icon, choose close does minimize 
  instead of closing it.
  Option 'minimize on close button' is different 
  action than this one!


- File 'changes' could display build number after date 
  so it is easier to keep track of which version is what.


- default ending for opml-files is - opml.


- import opml dialog 
  (has no cancel button // has no shortcuts)
  has irritating structur.
  i asume i should browse first, then select, then import.

  but I could type in the name of a file and then what?

  The dialog itself from top to bottom should lead me
  like a wizard. Top comes first, end is last.

On Import does import mean import list for display? import for import?
On   [Select all] [Unselect all]  
     these are two functions, not one!

On   Feeds found:
     I am missing an indicator that I have already added this feed.
     Asume I want to seperate my new feeds - how do I keep track of 
     which one I have already added?
     I would add a "filed in folder" column to 'feeds found' or 
     a little icon as 'added'

On   Close: does close import? before? Where is [ Abort ]?

If not to complicated I would suggest also a "remove selected". Otherwise I
would have to end this import, go to the place where I have added it and
then delete it there if I accidently got one wrong. 

To get rid of this litte workarounds, I suggest this kind of dialog:
(// or [// means greyed out. (Only available functions are to be enabled.)

|  [ Select all ] [// Unselect all]
|  [// reset set place on selected ] [// reset all set places ] 
split in two lines for display in this messges, could be one line


Initial display:

#   Filename: [                               ] [ Browse ]

#   [// Import file for display ]   
#   
#   Feeds found:
#     place to add to | name   | description
#   [
#    
#    
#                                                      ]
#  [ Select all ] [// Unselect all]
#  [// reset set place on selected ] [// reset all set places ] 

#   File to folder: [//<bottom>                 ] [//set selected]

#                                           [// Import ] [ Abort ]
#   (//Import only adds feeds to selected places, the rest is ignored.)


Focus on: [Browse]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
First step: Either I browse a filenname or I do insert it manually. As soon
as I insert one char,   [ Import file for display ]   gets enabled.

Then I press   [ Import file for display ]   

If file contains no feed, message is displayed "no feeds found" (= yes, I
did something but hey, there are no feeds!)

If successfull: Focus on first feed, most of the buttons are enabled now.


#   Filename: [ nameoffile                    ] [Browse]

#   [ Import file for display ]   
#   
#   Feeds found:
#   place to add to   | name   | description
#   [ < no import>    | feed a | description  a         (selected)
#     < no import>    | feed b | description  b
#     < no import>    | feed c | description  c
#                                                      ]
#  [ Select all ] [// Unselect all]
#  [// reset set place on selected ] [// reset all set places ] 

#   File to folder: [<end>               ] [set for selected feed]

#                                       [// Import ] [ Abort ]
#   (Import only adds feeds to selected places, the rest is ignored.)

As soon as 
 - more than one feed is selected, unselect all is enabled.
 - one place is selected,  [ reset all set places ] is enabled.
 - one feed has a selection, [ reset set place on selected ] is enabled. 
 - one feed has a selection, [ Import ] is enabled

As soon as 
 - only one feed is selected, unselect all is disabled.
 - no place is selected,  [ reset all set places ] is disabled.
 - one feed has a selection and no place [ reset set place on selected ]
   is disabled. 
 - no feed has a selection, [ Import ] is disabled.

Notes:
|  Feeds found:
|  place to add to   | name   | description

It is called "Feeds found". "Feeds name", "Feeds description" is
redundandent

Where to file, content of dropdownbox, (end) selected on initial
   (end)
   (top)
   (none)
   folder a
   folder b
   folder c
   folder d


If I have set everything to my desire, I finally press Import or Abort.


Does someone has a link from where I could test an import?
The ones from http://www.rss-verzeichnis.de won't work nor the one from
feedreader itself. 

Nicole
	
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[Feedreader-development] It's toolbarsettings.bin!

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Hi everybody :o)
With 50 new feeds to be added I was getting grumpy on this not working "add
feed" thing. I tracked it down: If I delete my toolbarsettings.bin, several
errors disappear!


616 still ignored programm property setting "Open maximized". Flickers and
then minimizes in a little bar at the top of taskbar. Doubleclick on title
bar leads to resized status, again dblclick finally maximizes.

'add new feed' ist broken. If I reopen my feeds with 610, there is no
problem adding feeds. I erased all files (except Toolbarsettings.bin /
Feedreader.ini) to check whether a maximum was reached but even with no
feeds in it there is no difference.

erased toolbarsettings.bin:
FR starts resized modus, then maximizes automaticly as it should do.
Add Feed works again.

btw I just changed the toolbar once - at the start to get the buttons I
want. I would asume that all this updates on graphical things infects
somehow the toolbar.

Toomas / Karsten, anyone likes my file? ;o)
Nicole
	
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[Feedreader-development] Bug in treeview

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

I noticed this bug after i uploaded the new build.
A new version is uploaded at the moment.


Karsten

[Feedreader-development] Bug in Treeview

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

(In case one is interested, some things are easier in chat:
 _neezee@ircnet or 153730581@icq)

FR displays everthing read after start or if you reswitch from another
application for example via alt-tab.

  folder (4)
		feed a (2)
		feed b (2)

If I select folder, folder looks read and (4) plus bold disappears.
If I select feed a, folder (4) reappears, feed a says marked read.

If I select feed b, feed a reappears, feed b marked read.

At all times, no headlines are marked read.

If I mark a headline for example in b, feed b has no change in number but
folder looks mark read.

There has something gone badly wrong.

Little things

Filename CHANGES
Feedreader is for windows and therefor it needs file extensions like .txt

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Splash Screen could perhaps show version number

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- still a open - resize resize on startup, but now does start in fullscreen
- empty row beneath toolbar does not occur


Nicole


	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] Mail summary

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Karsten Hoffrath <mai...@kh...> wrote:
>I can't reproduce this problem. Please send me your 'Toolbarsettings.bin'.
 
i will try the new version and see if it still occours, okay?

>Does it make a difference if you open FeedReader minimized/normal/maximized?

it only occours on start - sometimes.

>Does it go away if you maximize the window and then normalize it again?

no. if it comes, 

>What do you mean with this? Such a property doesn't exist. You can start 
>it minimized.

of course there is but feedreader ignores it: 
- choose properties on feedreader icon
- open: maximized

>I've already thought about an autosave feature after every refresh. This 
>could be called manually, too.

I don't wait till all my feeds are updated to start reading.
And it does not seem necessary to me to save after every feed. 
others might see this different.

how about 'autosave after the retreavel of x feeds'? you could choose x=1
and I would do x=10.

Note: You have not only to save the fact that there are new headlines but
also what happens with the rest in the meantime (read / delete / delete
feed). This is why I would prefer a Save button. Then I would save after
one folder has been 'done' = read and would wait while fr does save.

>Add new feed:
>Is working for me?!

I will try the new version, ~ 40 new feeds are waiting. :o)

btw - do you have an easy opml explanation for me? perhaps it might be
shorter if I wrote them as opml import than do them manually :)))
Nicole
	
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[Feedreader-development] Changes 29.12.2003

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

29.12.2003  khoffrath
- Fixed flickering of headlines.
- Enhanced saving/restoring window positions.


New build under www.khoffrath.de/feedreader


Karsten

[Feedreader-development] Mail summary

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

Toolbar problem:
I can't reproduce this problem. Please send me your 'Toolbarsettings.bin'.
Does it make a difference if you open FeedReader minimized/normal/maximized?
Does it go away if you maximize the window and then normalize it again?

 >Another thing: Although I've told it in properties to open maximized, 
 >it does ignore it and opens on a space that's perhaps 1/4 of my screen.
What do you mean with this? Such a property doesn't exist. You can start 
it minimized.

Crash on XP:
I will try to reproduce this 'mentally' :).
I've already thought about an autosave feature after every refresh. This 
could be called manually, too.

Space -> jump to next unread message in treeview and listview:
Added to ToDo-List.

Prevent flashing of headlines:
Made some changes, should be away. Set treeview and listview to 
doublebuffered.
This costs more memory as the images of this components are painted to 
an memory image and then copied to the screen.

Add new feed:
Is working for me?!

I added the new features to the todo-list.


Karsten

Re: [Feedreader-development] things I like to see

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Just things I notice, please add them to 
your personal bug/featurewishlist ;o)


When jumping with tab from treeview to headline, 
browser window is not updated with this first headline.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My feeds misses an 'add folder / feed' feature (right-click menue always
offers the features which are useful in this context)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I can't rename folders?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I can't mark all news of this folder read?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I do have 
My feeds 
   feed 1
   feed 2
   feed 3
   feed 4
   feed 5
   feed a

I want to drag feed a to be the first of my feeds - I can't. (You can't
move single feeds between folders either - they always go into a folder)

I could move feed 5 (which opens up with all entries and makes it therefor
hard to move) down feed a and then 4,3,2,1 but I am talking about 20
folders I would have to move - btw for a folder names watch with the
xml-feed from the forum if it helps ;o)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have always disliked this 'explode the tree the minute you click it'
feature, because it it not windows standard. Windows standard is: 
one click - mark it
double click - open it
in case of drag and drop - wait ~ 2 sec and if the mouse is still over this
folder, open it.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Most of the possible commands which are available 
for a toolbar are not available via menue. :o)

Nicole
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] Help wanted?

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Toomas Toots <to...@i-...> wrote:
>Is there anybody in the list, who wants to deal with publicity. Our 
>problem is www.feedreader.com homesite. I really do not have time to 
>answer questions and generate news. One status update would be nice :).

Hi Toomas,
I just discovered the webforum there (yuk, i hate them).

But I think I could be of some help keeping an eye on it and generating
some of the docs.

Nicoole


	
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[Feedreader-development] [Fwd: Redistributing Formatted-XDOM]

[Toomas T. <to...@i-...>]

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
  <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  <title></title>
</head>
<body>
<br>
<br>
-------- Original Message --------
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <th valign="baseline" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">Subject: </th>
      <td>Redistributing Formatted-XDOM</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <th valign="baseline" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">Date: </th>
      <td>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 05:38:27 -0800</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <th valign="baseline" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">From: </th>
      <td>Carmi Grushko <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ven...@us...">&lt;ven...@us...&gt;</a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <th valign="baseline" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">To: </th>
      <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:too...@us...">too...@us...</a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <th valign="baseline" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">CC: </th>
      <td><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ven...@us...">&lt;ven...@us...&gt;</a></td>
    </tr>
  </tbody>
</table>
<br>
<br>
<pre>Hi !



I'm Carmi, the developer of Formatted XDOM, a library you 

seem to be using in FeedReader.



First of all, I'd like to express my happiness, resulting from the 

fact I helped somebody do something.



Second, I'd like to suggest you include the latest 

Formatted_XDOM.pas in the Source distribution of 

FeedReader. I get every now and then a reqest to send this 

file to a user who tries to compile FeedReader. Either it's not 

included or not the latest version.



Though I enjoy knowing my code is needed, I presume it 

would be much easier for everyone if the file is included in the 

FeedReader sources.



I can either send you the file directly to your email or you 

can download it yourself from



<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://valkyrie-module.sourceforge.net/Formatted%">http://valkyrie-module.sourceforge.net/Formatted%</a>

20XDOM.htm



I hope this version will work correctly with the latest version 

of XDOM, but I cannot ensure it as I do not have time at all 

for these matters.



Thanks,

-Carmi
</pre>
</body>
</html>

[Feedreader-development] things I like to see

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

- a search for feedname / feedurl feature.
  I often have to guess or open up directy the subsriptionfile to check if
  i have already subscribed this feed (warning someday would be nice too)

- if I search headlines, I would like them sorted by date, not by feedname
   and then date (that is what i asume it is.

- if i search something and then click the headline (or the feedname in
  browser window if you like) I would like the feed to be selected in
  feedtree

:o)
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] Feedreader Build 614

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

F2 for add feed is not working anymore?
Or to say: Add feed itself does not work but local feed does 
(retested after restart)

hm. 
Nicole
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] Feedreader Build 614

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

happy coming new years eve alltogether ;o)

I wrote that I have a problem with the toolbar - it now occurs each time I
open feedreader, see here.

http://www.gnak.de/pix/feedreader1.jpg

Another thing: Although I've told it in properties to open maximized, it
does ignore it and opens on a space that's perhaps 1/4 of my screen.

Plus I had yesterday the first crash on xp - it just closed on 'jump to
next unread' - I could imagine that it might have had a problem dealing
with either stress (I was some days not around and do have a lot of feeds)
or more plausible I was just jumping to a feed which was updated that
moment.

All I did was 'mark all read', 'jump to next' and on some messages 'open in
browser'.

Cause I allready had gone through a lot of my feeds I was slightly grumpy
to see that all already catched feeds had to be catched again and my marks
have gone. It would be nice to have a button / a command someday 'do save
now as you would if closing'

now back to the mail of Karsten 

>> Thing with Ctrl-R is - it's not that reachable with one hand if you want to
>> just use the keyboard. :o) Suggestion: cause we do have a better focus view
>> etc, why not make a single key read with spacebar? This is usual in many
>> news/mailreaders.
>> 
>
>
>If the focus is on the headlines, then space should mark all headlines 
>read, or jump to the next?

jump to next unread message.

>What if the focus is not on the headlines?

Same. What does it do now if not on headlines? ;o)
Only exception: If focus in browser, Space has meaning of page down (as you
can see: kind of 'jump to next unread' also.)

>> It seems to be a different one than before. Not always flashyflashy on mark
>> read but sometimes it does not refresh the list fast enough when reading a
>> new fead. I will see if I get more on this :o)
>
>So it flashes if you switch to another feed?

and if I mark all read. But different then before: the headlines do not
roll up - flash - roll down read but just flash. :o)


Nicole
	
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[Feedreader-development] Merry Christmas

[<mai...@kh...>]

A Merry Christmas to all :)


Karsten

[Feedreader-development] Changes in translation processing.

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

Hi all.

I want to change the way the translation strings are stored.
Actually they are stored in xml files and get parsed at startup.
If there are special characters in the file, the parser dies and the 
translation fails. The conversion utility i wrote fails for languages 
which doesn't use the latin characterset.

I want to change this to simple ini style files so that the user can use 
a simple editor, enter their translation for a string and saves the 
file. There would be no conversion needed, the files can be used as they 
come.

E.g.:

Update=Aktualisieren
Search=Suche

The only thing is to watch out that the original string doesn't contain 
a '='. If so it should be encoded. At the moment we doesn't have such a 
string :) .

This would make translating Feedreader to other language very much 
easier and it's a change which is only a technical one. At the moment we 
have to change all translation files anyway as we have new strings.


Greetings,
Karsten

Re: [Feedreader-development] Feedreader Build 614

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

Nicole Simon wrote:

> 
> Thing with Ctrl-R is - it's not that reachable with one hand if you want to
> just use the keyboard. :o) Suggestion: cause we do have a better focus view
> etc, why not make a single key read with spacebar? This is usual in many
> news/mailreaders.
> 


If the focus is on the headlines, then space should mark all headlines 
read, or jump to the next?

What if the focus is not on the headlines?

> 
>>Hmm, did i miss one? I will look ;) .
> 
> 
> It seems to be a different one than before. Not always flashyflashy on mark
> read but sometimes it does not refresh the list fast enough when reading a
> new fead. I will see if I get more on this :o)

So it flashes if you switch to another feed?


Karsten

Re: [Feedreader-development] Feedreader Build 614

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Karsten Hoffrath <mai...@kh...> wrote:
>Problem is: if you e.g. press Alt+e the main menu is activated, so Alt+e 
>never goes to the toolbar.

*think* i am defenetly sure that my outlook uses alt for icons and i can do
it in word or excel too (haven't reinstalled my office). But, this doesn't
matter, Ctrl-Combos have to do.

>I think that it is standard that toolbar buttons never show a underlined 
>character (for the shortcut key). 

If you have Icon plus text - yes. 

>the shortcut (e.g. Ctrl-F5 for Update) or you press the toolbar button 
>with the mouse.

Thing with Ctrl-R is - it's not that reachable with one hand if you want to
just use the keyboard. :o) Suggestion: cause we do have a better focus view
etc, why not make a single key read with spacebar? This is usual in many
news/mailreaders.

>Hmm, did i miss one? I will look ;) .

It seems to be a different one than before. Not always flashyflashy on mark
read but sometimes it does not refresh the list fast enough when reading a
new fead. I will see if I get more on this :o)

Nicole


	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] Feedreader Build 614

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

Toomas Toots wrote:

> My bug ;) : If feedreader is maximized and i try to press "x" button on 
> top-right corner, it does something like "restore-maximize" two times, 
> then hides feedreader. This restore-and-then-maximize thing is weird... 
> Same goes on then clicking on tray and opening feedreader. This problem 
> occurs only then Feedreader is maximized.


I know, this is not 'round' i will enhance it.


> 
>  >From your last email: If a treenode is selected which doesn't 
> represent a feed, then MyFeeds
>  >  is used. If MyFeeds is selected, then all news of all feeds are shown.
> 
> But what happens then i have like 5000 headlines? will it fill listview 
> fast or not?

Why the listview? This is for the news overview (F7).
It depends on your hardware.


Karsten

Re: [Feedreader-development] Feedreader Build 614

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

Nicole Simon wrote:

> 
> - when first started, i had a toolbar which did not had the height of one
> icon but two. once done "cusomize" and it is back to normal.

Has someone else seen this?

> 
> - now all icons miss a shortcut?

In the toolbar: yes.
But if the buttons in the toolbar have shortcuts like ctrl-r they are 
working just not shown.
The shortcuts that were shown weren't working anyway.

Problem is: if you e.g. press Alt+e the main menu is activated, so Alt+e 
never goes to the toolbar.

I think that it is standard that toolbar buttons never show a underlined 
character (for the shortcut key). If you are an advanced user you know 
the shortcut (e.g. Ctrl-F5 for Update) or you press the toolbar button 
with the mouse.


> 
> - problem with flashing list view is back on 'mark all of this feed'
>   (but not every time)

Hmm, did i miss one? I will look ;) .

> 
> rest seems fine from here. :o)

Great.

Karsten

Re: [Feedreader-development] Feedreader Build 614

[Toomas T. <to...@i-...>]

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My bug ;) : If feedreader is maximized and i try to press "x" button on
top-right corner, it does something like "restore-maximize" two times,
then hides feedreader. This restore-and-then-maximize thing is weird...
Same goes on then clicking on tray and opening feedreader. This problem
occurs only then Feedreader is maximized.<br>
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&gt;From your last email: If a treenode is selected which doesn't
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Toomas<br>
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- when first started, i had a toolbar which did not had the height of one
icon but two. once done "cusomize" and it is back to normal.

- now all icons miss a shortcut?

- problem with flashing list view is back on 'mark all of this feed'
  (but not every time)

rest seems fine from here. :o)
Nicole

	
	
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Re: [Feedreader-development] Feedreader Build 614

[Nicole S. <ni...@gn...>]

Karsten Hoffrath <mai...@kh...> wrote:
>This contains the actual changes.


- when first started, i had a toolbar which did not had the height of one
icon but two. once done "cusomize" and it is back to normal.

- now all icons miss a shortcut?

- problem with flashing list view is back on 'mark all of this feed'
  (but not every time)

rest seems fine from here. :o)
Nicole

	
	
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[Feedreader-development] Feedreader Build 614

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

Link for the new build:

http://www.khoffrath.de/feedreader/Feedreader_614.zip

This contains the actual changes.


Greetings,
Karsten

[Feedreader-development] Updates 22.12.2003

[Karsten H. <mai...@kh...>]

Updates:

- Fixed 'feature' when a toolbar has not working shortcuts assigned to
   every caption after customization.
- Standing in browser and pressing Ctrl-z jumped to the second unread
   message. The next unread message was not shown.
- Usability of Add New Feed form enhanced (shortcuts, tab stops, etc.).
- When creating news overview, show Hourglass cursor and do
   Application.ProcessMessages.
- Overview of selected feed only.
   If a folder is selected all news of all child feeds are shown.
   If a treenode is selected which doesn't represent a feed, then MyFeeds
   is used. If MyFeeds is selected, then all news of all feeds are shown.
   If a single feed is selected then only the news of this feed are
   shown.
- When creating a new feed, let the folder default to the actual active
   folder.