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From: Maher A. <mu...@mu...> - 2000-06-14 06:02:44
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:22:59 -0700 (PDT), Meph Istopheles said: > Very nice script! Why can't all coders do that? cause they don't get frustrated as fast as I do, hehe. Maher -- mu...@mu... -- http://www.muhri.net |
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From: Count Z. <cou...@cy...> - 2000-06-14 02:59:39
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Laurent Marzullo was overheared mumbling something about this on Tue, 13 Jun
2000 12:08:31 +0200
> Hello all ...
>
> I've got 2 problems right now which are annoying:
> 1) I can't send any message with cscmail! all message goes to
> outbox but they never go away and never get into the folder
> sent item (I never receive them ...).
> The option 'send messages immediatly ?' is checked.
> I've check my pop3 name, user name, password and all seems correct.
> (There's the same as under netscape)
Is the SMTP server correct? Also, try running "cscsend" from the command line,
and report any errors please...
> 2) I've got 2 accounts, one is my office account and the other
> is my personal account. It's seems that when I retreive mail
> from my personal account cscmail marks them as new and print
> them in bold face but when I retrieve mail from my work account
> cscmail markes them as NOT NEW and don't display them in bold face.
> This works fine with netscape on both account.
Is the work account an account you also check from some other mailer? CSCMail
will check the "status" field in message headers, and if it notes that the mail
has already been downloaded with another program, it will not mark it as new.
This feature can either be commented out, or I can put a config option in...
Let me know which you prefer...
To temporarily turn this of just put a # in front of lines 385, 386, 387, and
389 (do NOT comment 388) in csclib.pl
they look like:
if ($status =~ /R/ || $status =~ /O/) {
$isnew="n";
} else {
$isnew="y";
}
and would look like:
# if ($status =~ /R/ || $status =~ /O/) {
# $isnew="n";
# } else {
$isnew="y";
# }
After commenting...
Keep me posted on how all this works out...
-Count Zero
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From: Count Z. <cou...@cy...> - 2000-06-14 02:05:23
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AA was overheared mumbling something about this on 13 Jun 2000 18:36:12 PDT > I like it. Though right now, with my current theme, I ~have~ a black > compose area &, of coure, the text is black. I'll get that fixed;-). > > Thanks much. Your welcome! Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help... -CZ -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/CM d--(+) s+: a- C++++ UL++++$ P+++ L+++>++++ E--- W+++(--) N+ o? K? w---(++) O M->-- !V PS+++ PE Y+ PGP t+@ 5? X+ R++ tv-- b+++ DI? D++ G e h r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
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From: AA <Me...@AA...> - 2000-06-14 01:36:36
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I like it. Though right now, with my current theme, I ~have~ a black compose area &, of coure, the text is black. I'll get that fixed;-). Thanks much. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux "Angus - the only one with any brains." -Lauren Bacall |
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From: Meph I. <Me...@AA...> - 2000-06-14 01:23:07
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CZ, >You must run the installer as root Did. Turns out I didn't have what the installer needs to run. Got it now;-). >> Are there other things I need? >Yes, there are about 8 perl modules required... These are listed >in the README included with CSCMail, or you can run the >installer as root and it will fetch them... (be sure to either >run the installer with "perl CSCMailInstaller.pl" or do chmod +x >CSCMailInstaller.pl) Very nice script! Why can't all coders do that? If I can get it configured before I have to start dinner (I'm the cook here), I'll respond with cscmail. Thanks again. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux |
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From: Count Z. <cou...@cy...> - 2000-06-14 00:42:59
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Meph Istopheles was overheared mumbling something about this on Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT) > CZ, > > I'd first tried the script to download all the necessities, but > that gave me a permission denied error no matter what I did. So, > I got the rpm, installed & got this: You must run the installer as root > Can't locate MIME/Parser.pm in @INC (@INC contains: > /usr/lib/cscmail /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux > /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005 .) at /usr/bin/cscmail line 24. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/cscmail line 24. > > I'd then reinstalled both perl-5.00503-2.i386.rpm & > perl-MD5-1.7-6.i386.rpm. I also have gtk+-1.2.7-1 installed. > > Are there other things I need? Yes, there are about 8 perl modules required... These are listed in the README included with CSCMail, or you can run the installer as root and it will fetch them... (be sure to either run the installer with "perl CSCMailInstaller.pl" or do chmod +x CSCMailInstaller.pl) -CZ -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/CM d--(+) s+: a- C++++ UL++++$ P+++ L+++>++++ E--- W+++(--) N+ o? K? w---(++) O M->-- !V PS+++ PE Y+ PGP t+@ 5? X+ R++ tv-- b+++ DI? D++ G e h r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
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From: Meph I. <Me...@AA...> - 2000-06-13 23:18:32
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CZ, I'd first tried the script to download all the necessities, but that gave me a permission denied error no matter what I did. So, I got the rpm, installed & got this: Can't locate MIME/Parser.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/cscmail /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005 .) at /usr/bin/cscmail line 24. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/cscmail line 24. I'd then reinstalled both perl-5.00503-2.i386.rpm & perl-MD5-1.7-6.i386.rpm. I also have gtk+-1.2.7-1 installed. Are there other things I need? Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux |
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From: Meph I. <Me...@AA...> - 2000-06-13 23:01:41
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CZ, >Simply reverse the bg[] and fg[] and you will have white text on >a black background. Ba-boom! White on black will do nicely. Thanks. >You also can add to this rc file and customize the look and feel >of CSCMail completely to your tastes. Feel free to ask on this >list, or e-mail me personally if you have any problems. I will >do all I can to help. Excellent. Fooling with rc's aren't often too much troubl. I just don't code. Thanks again. I'll d/l & install now. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux |
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From: Count Z. <cou...@cy...> - 2000-06-13 22:48:26
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Meph Istopheles was overheared mumbling something about this on Tue, 13 Jun
2000 15:19:25 -0700 (PDT)
> Anyway, I'd like to be able to control the background & font
> colours. I prefer a black background with bright blue fonts, but
> have yet to find either a mail app which can do that or one which
> actually installs properly to try it out. I'm using pine for
> sending of some things & generally use kmail for most stuff.
> But, you guessed it, it hurts;-).
You can do this with CSCMail... We support Gtk Themes, so you should choose a
Gtk theme that is dark. We also support and load a gtkrc file specific to
CSCMail... After installation you will find it in
${prefix}/lib/cscmail/cscmail.gtkrc If you look at that file, the default
forces Black text on a White background for the view widget (the "html" style)
Simply reverse the bg[] and fg[] and you will have white text on a black
background.
You also can add to this rc file and customize the look and feel of CSCMail
completely to your tastes. Feel free to ask on this list, or e-mail me
personally if you have any problems. I will do all I can to help.
-Count Zero
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From: Meph I. <Me...@AA...> - 2000-06-13 22:19:08
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Hey, I'm new on this list & have yet to actually install. The reason I'm mailing now is because cscmail appears to have what I need, but can't tell if it has what I want. Don't really want to download if it can't do this. I've got visual problems. Not that I can't see, rather I'm light sensitive. I had been using pine quite happily for many, many months, but neither can I find a way to fix a problem which came up, nor had anyone on the more general Linux mailing lists or the pine newsgroup ever run into anything like it. Anyway, I'd like to be able to control the background & font colours. I prefer a black background with bright blue fonts, but have yet to find either a mail app which can do that or one which actually installs properly to try it out. I'm using pine for sending of some things & generally use kmail for most stuff. But, you guessed it, it hurts;-). So, does cscmail allow for that without having to dig heavily into code? Thanks in advance, Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux |
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From: Steven K. <st...@vo...> - 2000-06-13 14:00:14
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:30:41 +0200, Kurt Schelfthout said: > cc -c -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -I/usr/local/include -O2 > -DVERSION=\"0.7002\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.7002\" -fPIC > -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux/CORE -DPERL_POLLUTE > -DGTK_HVER=0x010206 -I../build -Ibuild -I. -I../Gtk xs/GtkXmHTML.c > In file included from GtkXmHTML.xs:7: > build/GtkXmHTMLDefs.h:22: gtk-xmhtml/gtk-xmhtml.h: No such file or > directory > make: *** [xs/GtkXmHTML.o] Error 1 > And, surpise, there is no gtk-xmhtml.h on my system.... If you are using an RPM based system, gtk-xmhtml.h is part of: gnome-libs-devel-1.0.55-12 (And other versions I am sure) > I've also checked for the libgtkxmhtml.so library: > >> locate libgtkxmhtml.so > /usr/lib/libgtkxmhtml.so.1 > /usr/lib/libgtkxmhtml.so.1.0.1 but these are part of: gnome-libs-1.0.55-12 Be advised that the way RPM's tend to work, is that if you don't get the "devel" packages, you won't be able to compile anything that uses the libs. (ie: the gnome-libs-1.0.55-12 contains JUST the libs, not the headers needed to compile new programs based on the libs) In my mind, this is lame, but I can see the logic (i guess) -CZ -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Kordik st...@vo... System Administrator Tel 212.332.5045 VOILA - France Telecom North America Fax 212.332.2362 1270 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10020 USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Customized Search Engines for your web site at: http://voilasearch.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Maher A. <mu...@mu...> - 2000-06-13 13:55:55
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:30:41 +0200, Kurt Schelfthout said: > Hello, > > I just read Kent's install problem and Steve's reply in the archives. > > I have the same problem, the installer script runs fine (I've checked, > and there are no errors I can see), but when I try to execute the binary > it says: > > Use of uninitialized value at /usr/bin/cscmail line 55. > Can't locate object method "init" via package "Gtk::XmHTML" at > /usr/bin/cscmail line 55. > > I think is has something to do with the gtk-perl stuff, I tried to > manually compile the gnome-perl tarball, but when I do make in GtkXmHTML > it goes: > cc -c -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -I/usr/local/include -O2 > -DVERSION=\"0.7002\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.7002\" -fPIC > -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux/CORE -DPERL_POLLUTE > -DGTK_HVER=0x010206 -I../build -Ibuild -I. -I../Gtk xs/GtkXmHTML.c > In file included from GtkXmHTML.xs:7: > build/GtkXmHTMLDefs.h:22: gtk-xmhtml/gtk-xmhtml.h: No such file or > directory > make: *** [xs/GtkXmHTML.o] Error 1 > > And, surpise, there is no gtk-xmhtml.h on my system.... > Also, when I run the install script again, it skips everyting except the > gtkXmhtml stuff. So it proably doesn't find it. You need the devel-package which includes the headers - if your GtkXmHTML came with your gnome-libs package for example then you will need gnome-libs-devel. Or you can get the cvs version of CSCMail and use the textwidget instead - it will do everything that XmHTML will do except display image attachements inline (if you don't care about that) If you decide to do that then locate XmHTML.pm and remove it before starting CSCMail so that it would fall back to the textwidget nad not find the incomplete bits and peices. Maher Maher > I've also checked for the libgtkxmhtml.so library: > >> locate libgtkxmhtml.so > /usr/lib/libgtkxmhtml.so.1 > /usr/lib/libgtkxmhtml.so.1.0.1 > > So that should be fine. > > I'm lost however.. > > Thanks for any help, > > -- > Kurt > > Join the ProcessTree network! > http://www.processtree.com/?sponsor=25508 > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.cscmail.net > csc...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/cscmail-users > > -- mu...@mu... -- http://www.muhri.net |
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From: Kurt S. <Kur...@st...> - 2000-06-13 13:36:28
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Hello, I just read Kent's install problem and Steve's reply in the archives. I have the same problem, the installer script runs fine (I've checked, and there are no errors I can see), but when I try to execute the binary it says: Use of uninitialized value at /usr/bin/cscmail line 55. Can't locate object method "init" via package "Gtk::XmHTML" at /usr/bin/cscmail line 55. I think is has something to do with the gtk-perl stuff, I tried to manually compile the gnome-perl tarball, but when I do make in GtkXmHTML it goes: cc -c -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -I/usr/local/include -O2 -DVERSION=\"0.7002\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.7002\" -fPIC -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux/CORE -DPERL_POLLUTE -DGTK_HVER=0x010206 -I../build -Ibuild -I. -I../Gtk xs/GtkXmHTML.c In file included from GtkXmHTML.xs:7: build/GtkXmHTMLDefs.h:22: gtk-xmhtml/gtk-xmhtml.h: No such file or directory make: *** [xs/GtkXmHTML.o] Error 1 And, surpise, there is no gtk-xmhtml.h on my system.... Also, when I run the install script again, it skips everyting except the gtkXmhtml stuff. So it proably doesn't find it. I've also checked for the libgtkxmhtml.so library: >> locate libgtkxmhtml.so /usr/lib/libgtkxmhtml.so.1 /usr/lib/libgtkxmhtml.so.1.0.1 So that should be fine. I'm lost however.. Thanks for any help, -- Kurt Join the ProcessTree network! http://www.processtree.com/?sponsor=25508 |
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From: Laurent M. <Lau...@se...> - 2000-06-13 10:11:30
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Hello all ... I've got 2 problems right now which are annoying: 1) I can't send any message with cscmail! all message goes to outbox but they never go away and never get into the folder sent item (I never receive them ...). The option 'send messages immediatly ?' is checked. I've check my pop3 name, user name, password and all seems correct. (There's the same as under netscape) 2) I've got 2 accounts, one is my office account and the other is my personal account. It's seems that when I retreive mail from my personal account cscmail marks them as new and print them in bold face but when I retrieve mail from my work account cscmail markes them as NOT NEW and don't display them in bold face. This works fine with netscape on both account. I look in the .xsession-errors but didn't notice any errors, only warnings. Any Help ? Thanks a lot ... -- Laurent Marzullo - Analyste Programmeur SEMA GROUP BELGIUM tél: (32) 2 333 52 43 |
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From: Steven K. <st...@vo...> - 2000-06-12 18:50:16
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:22:46 -0600, Kent A. Signorini said: > Hello, > > I just tried to install CSCMail using the perl install script and <snip> did you run CSCMailInstaller as Root? > I tried running it again and it found the binary, but I got an error > that there was an undefined symbol on line 55. I don't have the exact > error right now (on another computer) but it was an undefined symbol > error. Looks like you don't have either GtkHTML or GtkXmHTML installed. CSCMail 1.6.1 requires at least ONE of those HTML libraries. The installer does not download those HTML widgets. It does compile XmHTML perl bindings if it can. I suspect there where errors in the installer terminal window, but they may have scrolled by quickly. What distribution do you run? Can you check and see if you have libgtkxmhtml.so on your system? > thought that the installer perl script was supposed to do EVERYTHING, It assumes a few things, such as the existence of Perl, as well as the existance of an HTML widget. I will modify the website to make it clear that you MUST have either XmHTML or GtkHTML installed on your system form 1.6.1 to work... To be honest, every Linux distro I have encountered comes with XmHTML.... -Steve -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Kordik st...@vo... System Administrator Tel 212.332.5045 VOILA - France Telecom North America Fax 212.332.2362 1270 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10020 USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Customized Search Engines for your web site at: http://voilasearch.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Kent A. S. <ke...@au...> - 2000-06-12 18:26:58
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Hello, I just tried to install CSCMail using the perl install script and here's = what happened: 1) it launched a gui ABORT/GO dialog. I told it to proceed. 2) it looked to be installing items and compiling, etc. 3) then it left me at a prompt I tried to run it by typing: cscmail at the prompt and I was told that = it didn't exist. So here's what I did next: 1) downloaded the no-modules RPM 2) installed the RPM with GnoRPM I tried running it again and it found the binary, but I got an error = that there was an undefined symbol on line 55. I don't have the exact = error right now (on another computer) but it was an undefined symbol = error. What did I do wrong? Can I correct it? I've since tried = removing/reinstalling the RPM a few times with the same results. I = thought that the installer perl script was supposed to do EVERYTHING, = but it isn't on my computer. Please e-mail me directly as I cannot subscribe to this list at this = time. Thank you. Kent A. Signorini k3...@te... |
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From: John L. M. <sof...@Th...> - 2000-06-11 20:08:55
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I an resending this eMail in the hopes it will successfully arrive this time :) I am sending this note to both the developer's and user's lists as I feel it is applies to both parties. John L. Males Software I.Q. Consulting Toronto, Ontario Canada 11 June 2000 16:05 mailto:sof...@Th... - ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: Mail Delivery System <> To: Self Subject: Mail Delivery Failure. Date sent: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 00:15:34 Delivery has failed on the enclosed message for the following reasons reported either by the mail delivery system on the mail relay host or by the local TCP/IP transport module: 553 envelope recipient address invalid (#5.7.1) Your original mail message follows: - -------------------------------------------------------- From: "John L. Males" <sof...@Th...> Organization: Toronto, Ontario, Canada To: cs...@cs... Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 00:15:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Re[02]: [CSC Mail] Wishing for a Recieve & Send button Reply-to: sof...@Th... Message-ID: <3935AB1E.8874.52470F@localhost> X-Confirm-Reading-To: sof...@Th... X-pmrqc: 1 Return-receipt-to: sof...@Th... Priority: normal X-PM-Encryptor: QDPGP, 4 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Opps, I goofed and sent this to the wrong eMail address. Sorry. Regards, John L. Males Software I.Q. Consulting Toronto, Ontario Canada 01 June 2000 00:15 mailto:sof...@Th... - - ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: "John L. Males" <sof...@Th...> Organization: Toronto, Ontario, Canada To: maj...@cs... Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:43:18 -0500 Subject: Re[02]: [CSC Mail] Wishing for a Recieve & Send button Send reply to: sof...@Th... Priority: normal - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, I am likley to be a new member to the CSCMail discussions. I will of course have some questions of my own to ask once I have completed reviewing the archives of the past discussions. I do feel compelled to respond to this item of discussion as I have been enjoying a Windows based program that has a set of features I believe Brian was expressing an indirect need for. I am stuck on Windows :o(( because I need many of the Pegasus Mail features in a Linux eMail program. Sound familar al la a need for Outlook features in a Linux eMail program? :o)) It is my belief that what Brian is expressing is a need for CSCMail to perform a POP Authentication before sending mail. I have not used Yahoo services, but I do use POP/MTP servers that do not belong to my ISP. One of the methods to ensure SMTP servers are only used by "authorized users" is to check the IP address of the "sender to the SMTP" server has a valid POP3 mail account with the "provider". There is of course more to this validation process behind the scenes. Now if you happened to reply/forward/create and send eMail before you have retrieved your eMail, and/or your Internet Connection has dropped since you last retrieved you will not be allowed to send mail into the SMTP server. With the SMTP server I use one will receive a message to the effect that you must POP before you send. What this means is one has to somehow do a POP3 authentication before sending mail. If one has a mail monitoring utility it can perform the POP3 Authentication without retrieving eMail (retreiving headers os ok). This is great if the objective is to send eMail before retrieving or viewing the headers on the eMail server. In the "typical" eMail client program world this means a user MUST Retrieve their eMail BEFORE Sending any eMail. Without going into a very detailed discussion, suffice to say there are eMail programs that will be nothing short of problematic even when a savvy user tries to meet the SMTP server requirement in a manual manner - by trying to retrieve eMail with the eMail program first. Pegasus Mail has a set of features that really handles this requirement very cleanly. I have not seen any other eMail program that has even made any attempt to to so. I have a eMail Client features list I am hoping will be of eager interest for a team to incorporate into a eMail client. The list I have only needs me to review it and set "my" must haves, very much want to have, and nice to have priorities. Even though I have not have the chance to use CSCMail yet, I would be willing to submit my "wish" list for an eMail client. In the meantime if any of the developmet team at least has access to a Win9x/NT system you might find it helpful to install Pegasus Mail on it just to review the many useful features I have yet to see in any other eMail client I have looked at to date in the OS/2, Windows and Linux environments. I actually have been trying to evaluate various eMail programs in Linux so I can get off the headaches I keep having with M$ software and Windoze. In the course of that evaluation process I have become aware of CSCMail. I have not been able to install CSCMail as yet to decide if this will be the eMail program I will want to make some enhancement suggestions to from my useage of Pegasus Mail. From what I have read, seen and followed in the motivation for creating CSCMail I am hoping with suggestion from me and efforts of the CSCMail community that CSCMail will be a Benchmark eMail program. I will eMail later on my questions on getting CSCMail installed. Please bear in mind at the moment I am flipping between Linux and WindowsNT on the same machine. There will likely be "gaps" of time in any response or receipt of discussions. I am into some extensive Linux distribution evaluation and sourcing the "tools" of choice for my use in Linux. This has already meant I am not able to get back onto WindowsNT to do my eMail for 2-3 days. Regards, John L. Males Software I.Q. Consulting Toronto, Ontario Canada 31 May 2000 17:43 mailto:sof...@Th... > From: Maher Awamy (mu...@mu...) > Date: Tue May 30 2000 - 00:26:52 CDT > > Next message: Bleicke Holm: "Re: [CSC Mail] debian" > Previous message: Brain Kiosk: "[CSC Mail] Wishing for a Recieve > & Send button" In reply to: Brain Kiosk: "[CSC Mail] Wishing for > a Recieve & Send button" > > > > Brian, > > CSCMail does receive before it sends already, I dont know why > you are > having a problem like that, or do they want the same connection to > send also?? impossible though since the smtp port is different than > the pop port. > > Maher > On 30 May 2000 13:04:39 WST, Brain Kiosk said: > > > I use Yahoo's pop and smtp servers, but they require that you login > > on the pop server before using the smtp server. It would help if I > > could change the order of the Send & Recieve button and mail item so > > that the it recieves mail before it sends the mail. > > > > -- > > Brian K. Smith > > > > owner > > Brain Kiosk Software > > email: br...@br... > > > > > > -- > mu...@mu... -- http://www.muhri.net > > > > Next message: Bleicke Holm: "Re: [CSC Mail] debian" > Previous message: Brain Kiosk: "[CSC Mail] Wishing for a Recieve > & Send button" In reply to: Brain Kiosk: "[CSC Mail] Wishing for > a Recieve & Send button" > > This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Wed May 31 2000 - > 15:00:44 CDT - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 -- QDPGP 2.61a Comment: . iQA/AwUBOTWVhfLzhJbmoDZ+EQLJ0wCg7hHm8q2X23SItzpdKFjEKhcHrYYAoMEf BCKFcz/SCYVZ8cg89gHeRU/B =nUHB - - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - ------- End of forwarded message ------- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 -- QDPGP 2.61a Comment: . iQA/AwUBOTXxbfLzhJbmoDZ+EQJNWQCfRo/YhsTwS6kN9qqq17h+rdaWRs4An1zc A988w8t3DfWR882NSR0eQCfk =purq - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ------- End of forwarded message ------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 -- QDPGP 2.61a Comment: . iQA/AwUBOUP/GfLzhJbmoDZ+EQJMuwCgjK7tkqXgGKYr6cBrLXM5gMao6kUAn1Hl sYLQJg3aC6XQIt15hvq+kYmJ =5NjD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: <obi...@t-...> - 2000-06-09 17:03:10
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On 09 Jun 2000 15:38:58 CEST, Eric DE VITO said: > Ce 09 Jun 2000 09:25:50 EDT, Steven Kordik a dit: > > > > > On 09 Jun 2000 12:59:47 EDT, Warren Dukes said: > > > Any speculations on its death are pointless. There is no > > "cscmail-perl" and "cscmail-c" as though they where two different > > animals. There is ONLY CSCMail. > > > > share and enjoy > > Well said. I think that was a good point to specify all that things, > especially for users like me who did not follow the story and thus > where > lost hearing about cscmail and pronto. > I am happy with cscmail as I was never happy with any other linux > email > reader before. Keep doing the good job. > And so I do! It is a great peace of software and I really like its features, especially to be able to send with different "From" and all that multiple pop stuff. Hey, guys! This is FREE software, but it does not mean that the job to code is less hard. Don't blame the developers. Diversity is not a weakness of open source as it has been said some days before on this list. Choose it or leave it but be patient. For me I fully agree with Eric and I enjoy working with cscmail :-) Cheers Oliver -- Oliver Bienert obi...@t-... sent by cscmail -- |
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From: Eric DE V. <de...@re...> - 2000-06-09 13:42:36
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Ce 09 Jun 2000 09:25:50 EDT, Steven Kordik a dit: > > On 09 Jun 2000 12:59:47 EDT, Warren Dukes said: > Any speculations on its death are pointless. There is no > "cscmail-perl" and "cscmail-c" as though they where two different > animals. There is ONLY CSCMail. > > share and enjoy Well said. I think that was a good point to specify all that things, especially for users like me who did not follow the story and thus where lost hearing about cscmail and pronto. I am happy with cscmail as I was never happy with any other linux email reader before. Keep doing the good job. -- Eric DE VITO Ingénieur IPSN/SERAC Tél : 01 69 08 56 81 E-Mail : de...@re... |
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From: Steven K. <st...@vo...> - 2000-06-09 13:34:00
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On 09 Jun 2000 12:59:47 EDT, Warren Dukes said: > On 09 Jun 2000 07:30:10 CDT, Count Zero said: > > > But I am fixing bugs and will be releasing a new version soon. > > Does > > that sound > > Dead to you? > > Hmmm. Count, that's not what I recall you telling us in our little > chat. > You told us it was > dead, or at least that's what I remember (anyone with some logs from > about a week ago?) > > Thanks, > -shank > Did you read my big long post regarding the code fork? I think I have made my position on this quite clear. To be honest, prior to the code fork, I had allowed Muhri to be in charge of the updates/upgrades to 1.7.x, but since he left the team, I have taken over that job. I have never said the CSCMail was dead. I have never hinted that I would not support users of CSCMail. I HAVE said that I am no longer adding new features to the perl version. (Just as no one is adding new features to Enlightenment .16, or Linux Kernel 2.2.x etc) I am sorry if some people seem to think that a rewrite means that the old version is dead. Fact is, the current release of CSCMail is 1.6.1... This is the ONLY current stable release of CSCMail. I support it fully. There are TWO development releases of CSCMail, 1.7.x and 1.9.x 1.7.x is in feature freeze pending release of 1.8.0 1.9.x is in active development (ie: new features being added, etc) There would have been no issues at all regarding any of this if certain sour grapes had not started spouting their mouths of bemoaning the "death" of CSCMail. Just because they didn't like the direction I chose to take the codebase... There is no death, just the normal stable-version -> development-version -> stable-version code cycle. What does it matter to anyone that CSCMail 2.0.0 is in C versus perl? That means nothing. CSCMail 2.0.0 is not RELEASED yet. So any speculation about it is unfounded. The current release of CSCMail is 1.6.1, and work is proceeding on 1.8.0 (1.7.x is in feature freeze) That is all that is "official" about CSCMail. I have made public my goals for the future. These goals MAY change... They may not. Who knows? they are goals. Anyway, this has all wasted too much of my time, and kept me from focusing on the important things, such as coding a damn good e-mail client. I declare this thread dead. CSCMail is alive. Any speculations on its death are pointless. There is no "cscmail-perl" and "cscmail-c" as though they where two different animals. There is ONLY CSCMail. share and enjoy -Count Zero |
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From: <fc...@no...> - 2000-06-09 13:19:59
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hi stop this thread please... this is nothing for -users, as it affects only -developers... greetz Flavio On 09 Jun 2000 12:59:47 EDT, Warren Dukes said: > On 09 Jun 2000 07:30:10 CDT, Count Zero said: > > > But I am fixing bugs and will be releasing a new version soon. > > Does > > that sound > > Dead to you? > > Hmmm. Count, that's not what I recall you telling us in our little > chat. > You told us it was > dead, or at least that's what I remember (anyone with some logs from > about a week ago?) > > Thanks, > -shank > > > > > -Count Zero > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.cscmail.net > > csc...@li... > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/cscmail-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.cscmail.net > csc...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/cscmail-users > > -- .-=: http://no-way.org :=-. |
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From: Eric DE V. <de...@re...> - 2000-06-09 13:15:58
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I have some questions before trying to move to pronto : How is pronto 1.0.0 relative to cscmail 1.7.x ? I mean in terms of functionnality and stability... I have 1.7.x (cvs). From cscmail 1.6.x one has to deal with bcc things I saw on muhri'web site. With cscmail 1.7.x is it necessary to make all this stuff about bcc (export all folders, add bcc .etc...) to move to pronto ? Thank you -- Eric DE VITO Ingénieur IPSN/SERAC Tél : 01 69 08 56 81 E-Mail : de...@re... |
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From: Warren D. <zzd...@wi...> - 2000-06-09 13:03:29
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On 09 Jun 2000 07:30:10 CDT, Count Zero said: > But I am fixing bugs and will be releasing a new version soon. Does > that sound > Dead to you? Hmmm. Count, that's not what I recall you telling us in our little chat. You told us it was dead, or at least that's what I remember (anyone with some logs from about a week ago?) Thanks, -shank > > -Count Zero > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.cscmail.net > csc...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/cscmail-users > > |
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From: Count Z. <cou...@cy...> - 2000-06-09 11:35:46
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Michael Clifford was overheared mumbling something about this on 08 Jun 2000 17:53:47 PDT > It's pretty clear where they stand... CSCmail-perl is no more.Count will > continue to support its users but the focus is on C. Pronto! WAS the cscmail > Perl project. Pronto! will have a db backend. CSCMail will have an indexed > mbox. Choose what you will. FUD... Mike, I often think that you were the influence on Muhri that caused him to form Pronto! as it is just this sort of FUD talk that lead to the split. CSCMail Perl is still in active maintenence. No I am not adding new features. But I am fixing bugs and will be releasing a new version soon. Does that sound Dead to you? Thats like saying Enlightenment .16 is dead, because Raster and Mandrake are focusing on EFM. This is total bullshit. Get your facts straight before you post to the list. Pronto! is a code fork. While I wish Muhri well, Pronto! is no longer CSCMail. For better or for worse, it is a new project. > Also, as Count has stated, the C version is not in a useful form yet. This is true... > Another thing... programs from cvs are not guaranteed to run/compile. Actually, unless stated otherwise in the ChangeLog, I never commit anything to CVS that DOESN"T compile and run. But, as a general rule, no, CVS is not guaranteed to compile... I have only once committed non-compiling code to CVS though, and I try very hard to avoid that. Although it doesn't do much, the code in CVS DOES compile and run... -Count Zero |
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From: Count Z. <cou...@cy...> - 2000-06-09 11:27:19
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Michael Clifford was overheared mumbling something about this on 08 Jun 2000 19:58:58 PDT > My complaint about Mr. Lane Lester > <- Totally Offtopic and Personally Insulting message snipped -> Mike, this was totally uncalled for. My first reaction on seeing this message was to boot you from this list. But then, this is not a moderated list, and you could easily re-join, so there really is no point in me doing that. This list is not a place for flames. I do not know what your problem is, but keep crap like this off this list. -Steve |
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