cscmail-users

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Pronto/CSCMail

[Count Z. <cou...@cy...>]

Lane Lester was overheared mumbling something about this on 06 Jun 2000
07:04:14 EDT

> I hope it won't be too long until the dust settles and we can see where
>  these
>  two programs stand.

Pronto! and CSCMail have diverged.  I have fixed quite a few bugs in CSCMail
1.7.x and the fixes are available on sourceforge at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cscmail (Checkout the CVS section, module
cscmail-1.7.x)

Pronto! has incorporated some of my bug fixes, but has also added features, and
possibly fixed other bugs/introduced new ones.	The development of CSCMail
1.7.x and Pronto! has diverged.  I have made it a point to hop into Pronto! and
inform the developers of any major bugs I have fixed in CSCMail 1.7.x because I
am a nice guy.

CSCMail 1.7.x is in feature freeze, and once all bugs seem to be stamped out in
it, I will release CSCMail 1.8.0...  This will be the LAST CSCMail release in
Perl.
  
>  Since I was going to try the C version, I renamed my .cscmail directory to
>  ..cscmailold to get it out of the way. I thought that .pronto had taken over
>  its role.  Wrong!  After fetching the mail, nothing showed up in the message
>  list. When I gave .cscmail its old name back, I =think= I got all my
>  messages
>  back.

CSCMail 1.9.x uses a .cscmailcrc file and doesn't put anything .cscmail at this
time.  Even when it does begin to create its own mail folders, I will make sure
that the filenames and so forth do NOT conflict with the perl versions of
CSCMail.  I am designing these programs to run side by side, especially since
1.9.x is not a viable e-mail client at this time.  No changes to your 1.7.x
setup are required/desired to test out the 1.9.x version.

>  After fetching from CVS, I first noticed that INSTALL was empty. Then
>  configure wouldn't run, and I decided I should read changelog. I finally
>  found the message about autogen.sh and got started. But the process bombed
>  with:
>  checking for gnome-print >= 0.13... not found
>  configure: error: gnome-print 0.13 or later is required to compile CSCMail.

gnome-print requires gnome-xml.  GtkHTML requires gnome-print and gdk-pixbuf
These four modules (gnome-xml, gnome-print, gdk-pixbuf, gtkhtml) are all
available from the helixcode website as tar.gz's

http://www.helixcode.com/apps/evolution-preview/index.php3

>  That turned out to not be a simple download and install, so I've decided to
>  wait for the new Helix-Gnome CD's to get here to try again.

That should get it too! hehe

-Steve

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Pronto/CSCMail

[Lane L. <ll...@mi...>]

Michael Clifford said:
MC> My complaint about Mr. Lane Lester

At first I was confused, but a look at this person's resume cleared
things up for me:

-----
Michael Clifford
                               1994 - 1998
                                         Don Bosco
                                         Technical
                                         Institute 
                                                Rosemead, CA 
                               High School Student 
-----
Filters are a wonderful invention.
                               
Lane

---- 
Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
---- 

Re: [CSCMail-Users] exporting mails from cscmail to files ?

[Eric DE V. <de...@re...>]

Ce 08 Jun 2000 17:47:19 CDT, Count Zero a dit:

> Eric DE VITO was overheared mumbling something about this on 08 Jun
>  2000
>  17:03:19 CEST
>  

>  Did you put in a filename for the export?  If so, this is incorrect. 
>  Muhri set
>  it up so that it automagically names the file the same as the folder
>  name.  The
>  dialog box says "Please choose a DIRECTORY to export folder
>  [foldername] to"
>  (caps added)  Personally, I think that most people don't read dialog
>  titles,
>  and that we should not use a file selection widget, but instead just a
>  CList. 
>  I will think on this a bit and may add it to 1.7.x but basically, you
>  just
>  choose "Export Folder" and then browse to the directory you want to
>  export to
>  and hit "ok"  If you put in a filename, it tries to export to
>  /fullpath/to/filename/foldername and of course, that won't work...
>  
>  -CZ

Just right !!! Thank you. I was always trying to choose a filename, but
it exports to the same filename as the name of the folder !
But it's right that we should not get a file selection dialog. 

-- 
Eric DE VITO
Ingénieur IPSN/SERAC
Tél : 01 69 08 56 81
E-Mail : de...@re...

Re: Re: [CSCMail-Users] Pronto/CSCMail

[HD F. <wo...@po...>]

No Lane, you weren't the only one to see cscsend.running stuck in your machine.

I also ran into a problem where one of my three accounts couldn't send any
mail...although another account with the same service, sent and received just
fine.

For now, I'm waiting for cscmail to come out, so I can return to the mbox
format instead of the embedded database/file system.

All in all, the original Perl version is a decent program...there are minor
things which became nuisances -- upgrading was a chore.

So, for now, I'm back to using Spruce, with the little idiosyncracies it has,
until one or the other becomes the stable email client of choice.

`//
-- 
hugh d fegely                 wo...@po...
http://wolffe.dyndns.org/    Howling|At|The|Moon
------------------------------------------------
This is Linux country...
..on a quiet night, you can hear Windows crash.

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Pronto/CSCMail

[Lane L. <ll...@mi...>]

Michael Clifford said:

MC> Something you did was wrong. .cscmail should have been moved to .pronto and
MC> .cscmailrc to .prontorc. If you did that then there would be no thinking that
MC> .pronto had taken it over. You would of manually MADE it take it over yourself.
MC> Did you checkout pronto from cvs or cscmail?

CVS.

MC> Also, as Count has stated, the C version is not in a useful form yet.

And Pronto (as well as Steve's updated version of Perl-CSCMail... yes,
it still exists) has the bad behavior of leaving its prontosendrunning
or cscmailsendrunning file on my system. I know I'm the only one in
the world who is seeing this happen, but I don't intend to watch it
any longer if there's no prospect of it being fixed.

I'm back to using Netscape or even my Win98 client until I can find
something that works.
  
>>  After fetching from CVS, I first noticed that INSTALL was empty. Then
>>  configure wouldn't run, and I decided I should read changelog. I finally
>>  found the message about autogen.sh and got started. But the process bombed
>>  with:
>>  checking for gnome-print >= 0.13... not found
>>  configure: error: gnome-print 0.13 or later is required to compile CSCMail.

MC> Before running configure did you run autogen.sh?

Not the first time, but after Steve suggested it, I did so and got the
same result.

MC> Another thing... programs from cvs are not guaranteed to run/compile.

Thank you for telling me something I didn't know. <g>

Lane

---- 
Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
---- 

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Pronto/CSCMail

[Michael C. <mi...@et...>]

On 06 Jun 2000 07:04:14 EDT, Lane Lester said:

> I hope it won't be too long until the dust settles and we can see where
>  these
>  two programs stand.

It's pretty clear where they stand... CSCmail-perl is no more.Count will
continue to support its users but the focus is on C. Pronto! WAS the cscmail
Perl project. Pronto! will have a db backend. CSCMail will have an indexed
mbox. Choose what you will.
  
>  Since I was going to try the C version, I renamed my .cscmail directory to
>  .cscmailold to get it out of the way. I thought that .pronto had taken over
>  its role.  Wrong!  After fetching the mail, nothing showed up in the message
>  list. When I gave .cscmail its old name back, I =think= I got all my
>  messages
>  back.

Something you did was wrong. .cscmail should have been moved to .pronto and
.cscmailrc to .prontorc. If you did that then there would be no thinking that
.pronto had taken it over. You would of manually MADE it take it over yourself.
Did you checkout pronto from cvs or cscmail?

Also, as Count has stated, the C version is not in a useful form yet. 
  
>  After fetching from CVS, I first noticed that INSTALL was empty. Then
>  configure wouldn't run, and I decided I should read changelog. I finally
>  found the message about autogen.sh and got started. But the process bombed
>  with:
>  checking for gnome-print >= 0.13... not found
>  configure: error: gnome-print 0.13 or later is required to compile CSCMail.

Before running configure did you run autogen.sh? 

Another thing... programs from cvs are not guaranteed to run/compile. 
  
>  That turned out to not be a simple download and install, so I've decided to
>  wait for the new Helix-Gnome CD's to get here to try again.
>  -- 
>  Lane
>  ____ 
>  Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
>  ---- 
>  Using Linux to get where I want to go...
>  
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  http://www.cscmail.net
>  csc...@li...
>  http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/cscmail-users
>  
>  

Cliffom
-- 
Michael Clifford
http://www.eternal-bliss.com

[CSCMail-Users] Pronto/CSCMail

[Lane L. <ll...@mi...>]

I hope it won't be too long until the dust settles and we can see where these
two programs stand.

Since I was going to try the C version, I renamed my .cscmail directory to
.cscmailold to get it out of the way. I thought that .pronto had taken over
its role.  Wrong!  After fetching the mail, nothing showed up in the message
list. When I gave .cscmail its old name back, I =think= I got all my messages
back.

After fetching from CVS, I first noticed that INSTALL was empty. Then
configure wouldn't run, and I decided I should read changelog. I finally
found the message about autogen.sh and got started. But the process bombed
with:
checking for gnome-print >= 0.13... not found
configure: error: gnome-print 0.13 or later is required to compile CSCMail.

That turned out to not be a simple download and install, so I've decided to
wait for the new Helix-Gnome CD's to get here to try again.
-- 
Lane
____ 
Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
---- 
Using Linux to get where I want to go...

Re: [CSCMail-Users] exporting mails from cscmail to files ?

[Maher A. <mu...@mu...>]

Steve,

 you may want to do like what I did with Pronto!, on dialogs that require the
user to choose a directory,

$fs->file_selection->set_sensitive(0);

that gives the user a hint they are supposed to choose a dir.

Maher

On 08 Jun 2000 17:47:19 CDT, Count Zero said:

> Eric DE VITO was overheared mumbling something about this on 08 Jun 2000
>  17:03:19 CEST
>  
>  > I have a naughty error when I try to export a folder to a file :
>  >  
>  >  print on closed filehandle main::MBOX at /usr/lib/cscmail/csclib.pl line
>  >  699.
>  >  print on closed filehandle main::MBOX at /usr/lib/cscmail/csclib.pl line
>  >  700.
>  >  print on closed filehandle main::MBOX at /usr/lib/cscmail/csclib.pl line
>  >  701.  
>  >  
>  >  for each message the three lines are repeated...
>  >  I am in $HOME so no permission problems.
>  >  What's up ? Please help me, I cannot get my messages now in standard unix
>  >  mboxes files  :-(
>  >  
>  Did you put in a filename for the export?  If so, this is incorrect.  Muhri
>  set
>  it up so that it automagically names the file the same as the folder name. 
>  The
>  dialog box says "Please choose a DIRECTORY to export folder [foldername] to"
>  (caps added)  Personally, I think that most people don't read dialog titles,
>  and that we should not use a file selection widget, but instead just a
>  CList. 
>  I will think on this a bit and may add it to 1.7.x but basically, you just
>  choose "Export Folder" and then browse to the directory you want to export
>  to
>  and hit "ok"  If you put in a filename, it tries to export to
>  /fullpath/to/filename/foldername and of course, that won't work...
>  
>  -CZ
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  http://www.cscmail.net
>  csc...@li...
>  http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/cscmail-users
>  
>  

-- 
mu...@mu... -- http://www.muhri.net

Re: [CSCMail-Users] exporting mails from cscmail to files ?

[Count Z. <cou...@cy...>]

Eric DE VITO was overheared mumbling something about this on 08 Jun 2000
17:03:19 CEST

> I have a naughty error when I try to export a folder to a file :
>  
>  print on closed filehandle main::MBOX at /usr/lib/cscmail/csclib.pl line
>  699.
>  print on closed filehandle main::MBOX at /usr/lib/cscmail/csclib.pl line
>  700.
>  print on closed filehandle main::MBOX at /usr/lib/cscmail/csclib.pl line
>  701.  
>  
>  for each message the three lines are repeated...
>  I am in $HOME so no permission problems.
>  What's up ? Please help me, I cannot get my messages now in standard unix
>  mboxes files  :-(
>  
Did you put in a filename for the export?  If so, this is incorrect.  Muhri set
it up so that it automagically names the file the same as the folder name.  The
dialog box says "Please choose a DIRECTORY to export folder [foldername] to"
(caps added)  Personally, I think that most people don't read dialog titles,
and that we should not use a file selection widget, but instead just a CList. 
I will think on this a bit and may add it to 1.7.x but basically, you just
choose "Export Folder" and then browse to the directory you want to export to
and hit "ok"  If you put in a filename, it tries to export to
/fullpath/to/filename/foldername and of course, that won't work...

-CZ

[CSCMail-Users] exporting mails from cscmail to files ?

[Eric DE V. <de...@re...>]

I have a naughty error when I try to export a folder to a file :

print on closed filehandle main::MBOX at /usr/lib/cscmail/csclib.pl line
699.
print on closed filehandle main::MBOX at /usr/lib/cscmail/csclib.pl line
700.
print on closed filehandle main::MBOX at /usr/lib/cscmail/csclib.pl line
701.  

for each message the three lines are repeated...
I am in $HOME so no permission problems.
What's up ? Please help me, I cannot get my messages now in standard unix
mboxes files  :-(

-- 
Eric DE VITO
Ingénieur IPSN/SERAC
Tél : 01 69 08 56 81
E-Mail : de...@re...

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Message body

[Count Z. <cou...@cy...>]

Laurent Marzullo was overheared mumbling something about this on Thu, 08 Jun
2000 13:57:07 +0200

> Hello,
>  
>  Just to ask where are the message body when using Postgres
>  to stock message ?
>  
>  cscmail is not able to open any of my messages ... I'm afraid
>  to have erase all my message body (sick !)
>  
The messages are in ~/.cscmail underneath the directories 0 1 2 3 ... etc

If, while in cscmail, you highlight a message and then choose file->save you
will see the message id (as the filename, message1234.txt) to find this message
go to ~/.cscmail and first look in the dir numbered for the last number in the
id (in our example ~/.cscmail/4) and then change to the dir of the second to
last number (in our example, ~/.cscmail/4/3) in that directory you should find
1234.msg, which is the message file for that message, it contains the body and
the header.

-Count Zero

[CSCMail-Users] Message body

[Laurent M. <Lau...@se...>]

Hello,

Just to ask where are the message body when using Postgres
to stock message ?

cscmail is not able to open any of my messages ... I'm afraid
to have erase all my message body (sick !)


Thanks
-- 
Laurent Marzullo      - Analyste Programmeur
SEMA GROUP BELGIUM 
tél: (32) 2 333 52 43

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Pronto exists!

[Homer P. <hp...@ru...>]

	On a different note, I subscribed to the new list, got my
confirmation from major, sent my reply, and haven't heard anything.. No
welcome, instructions, nor any posts :(

-- 
Homer Parker

Technical Support
Omega Internet Solutions
785.483.5588

hp...@ru...
http://www.russellks.net

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Pronto exists!

[Maher A. <mu...@mu...>]

On Thu, 08 Jun 2000 17:46:44 +1200, vi...@ro... said:

> Maher Awamy wrote:
>  > 
>  > its called prontoemail and its a web based email - nothing to do with
>  Pronto!
>  
>  Phew! I was worried for a moment there.

hehe :) nah we are cool :) 

Thanks,

Maher

>  Vik :v)
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  http://www.cscmail.net
>  csc...@li...
>  http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/cscmail-users
>  
>  

-- 
mu...@mu... -- http://www.muhri.net

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Pronto exists!

[<vi...@ro...>]

Maher Awamy wrote:
> 
> its called prontoemail and its a web based email - nothing to do with Pronto!

Phew! I was worried for a moment there.

Vik :v)

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Pronto exists!

[Maher A. <mu...@mu...>]

its called prontoemail and its a web based email - nothing to do with Pronto!
:)

Maher


On Thu, 08 Jun 2000 17:25:02 +1200, vi...@ro... said:

> Uh, has anyone actually typed "pronto email" into a web search engine?
>  
>  I get references to another mail client called Pronto, something to do
>  with http://www.prontomail.com but none of the links I found resolve to
>  anything useful.
>  
>  Vik :v)
>  
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  http://www.cscmail.net
>  csc...@li...
>  http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/cscmail-users
>  
>  

-- 
mu...@mu... -- http://www.muhri.net

[CSCMail-Users] Pronto exists!

[<vi...@ro...>]

Uh, has anyone actually typed "pronto email" into a web search engine?

I get references to another mail client called Pronto, something to do
with http://www.prontomail.com but none of the links I found resolve to
anything useful.

Vik :v)

Re: [CSCMail-Users] Re: Recent Events

[Lane L. <ll...@mi...>]

Steven Kordik said:

> >  
>  There are rpm's etc for GtkHTML 0.2 I am fairly sure... I seem to
>  remember a prospective CSCMail 1.9.x tester having some good luck
>  installing them.

I could only find rpm's for 0.1.

-- 
Lane
____ 
Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
---- 
Using Linux to get where I want to go...

[CSCMail-Users] Reading mail problem

[Laurent M. <Lau...@se...>]

Hello,


I've transfert all my mail to postgres and now, thanks for your help.
Now, I've got some other problems:

1) message 'Unable to open msg file for parsing' appear each time I try
   to read a message.

   'unable to decode message. Please contact CSCMail Maintainers'


2) The tree structure differ between Postgres Table and cscmail window:
> select * From messages order by id \g
id|name             |sibling|parent
--+-----------------+-------+------
 0|Folders          |  65535|    -1
 1|Inbox            |      2|     0
 2|Outbox           |      3|     0
 3|Sent Items       |      4|     0
 4|Deleted Items    |      5|     0
 5|Drafts           |  65535|     0
 6|Linux            |     11|     1
 7|Mailing list     |  65535|     6
 8|CSC Mail         |     10|     7
 9|GTK +            |      8|     7
10|GTK --           |     19|     7
11|Personal         |     14|     1
12|Ninine           |     20|    11
13|Projet           |     22|    14
14|SEMA             |  65535|     1
15|Forte            |  65535|    13
16|GDB International|     21|    17
17|Polis            |     15|    13
18|Generation       |     23|    17
19|gnome-db         |  65535|     7
20|Céline Bernard   |     24|    11
21|Locked Files     |     18|    17
22|Albert Bruffaerts|  65535|    14
23|POCI             |  65535|    17
24|Clément Mater    |     25|    11
25|Papa             |  65535|    11


I would like to have:
Inbox:
     SEMA
          Projet
               Forte
               Polis
                    Locked Files
                    Generation
                    POCI
               GDB International

But I've got this:
Inbox:
     SEMA
          Projet
Polis
     GDB International
     Locked Files
     POCI
     Generation
Forte

And each times I move the folder they go back to their original
place !!!

3) What is Sibling ??

Any help ?
Thanks a lot ?

-- 
Laurent Marzullo      - Analyste Programmeur
SEMA GROUP BELGIUM 
tél: (32) 2 333 52 43

[CSCMail-Users] Re: Recent Events

[Steven K. <st...@vo...>]

On 05 Jun 2000 20:07:12 EDT, Lane Lester said:

> 
>  Steven Kordik said:
>  
>  >  I only require Gtk and GtkHTML modules for CSCMail 1.9.x,
>  
>  Oh, crud. I never have been able to get that dadgum GtkHTML installed.
>  I've
>  given it two long serious attempts without success. I know that others
>  have
>  succeeded, and I know that others have failed. I hope the "secret"
>  becomes
>  known soon.

There are rpm's etc for GtkHTML 0.2 I am fairly sure... I seem to
remember a prospective CSCMail 1.9.x tester having some good luck
installing them.

>   >  out of the 1.7.x version.  Consider 1.7.x to be in a feature
>  freeze and
>  >  please use cvs to check it out and report any bugs to me...
>  
>  Have you been able to keep up with this list so that you know about
>  the
>  reformatting in the print routine and the failure to delete
>  prontosending (I
>  know that's not its right name)?

No, I was banned from the cs...@cs... list for a short while, and
missed any mails sent to that address since June 2nd I have not recieved.

I am setting up the new lists to be a bit more robust... For one thing
they are at sourceforge, and so list movement should stop, second, I am
setting up aliases for mail sent to cs...@cs... and
csc...@cs... so that even those messages should make it to
the new list... which is at csc...@li...

(btw: all the subscribers of cs...@cs... have been
auto-subscribed to the csc...@li... list, and the
old list has been desolved.)

Oh, and a few bugs in CSCMail 1.7.x have been fixed by me recently,
including the segfault in cscget when an invalid filter was
encountered...

be sure to use cvs to checkout the cscmail-1.7.x module from
cvs.cscmail.sourceforge.net

Instructions are available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/cscmail

The Pronto! folks have been notified of the issues I have fixed in
CSCMail 1.7.x, and can check the cvs logs at sourceforge, to see what
they need to do to fix these same bugs in Pronto!

I must admit however, that I will not be able to continue to make sure
that the Pronto! team is aware of all the issues I fix in CSCMail 1.7.x
as I do not have time to keep up with both CSCMail and Pronto! hehe  I
would advise them to keep a CLOSE eye on the cvs logs for CSCMail 1.7.x
though, as nearly all of the code added to CSCMail 1.6.x (to turn it into
1.7.x) has bugs.

Anyway, the above was not a slam at the Pronto! developers... just that
as I look at the 1.7.x code, I see quite a few bugs... I will be fixing
them as I have the time, and the Pronto! team would be well advised to
track my fixes, since these bugs are (of course) forming the foundation
of Pronto! itself.

-CZ

[CSCMail-Users] testing auto forward

[Steven K. <st...@vo...>]

Testing the auto forward to the new list function...

Sorry for the spam...

P.S.
	The blank line is annoying as hell, and is new to the 1.7.x
series.. I will be looking into it and fixing it asap...

-CZ
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