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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Subject: Re: "error loading operating system" xp, drive close to dead

[Dan C. <da...@bl...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Shiau [mailto:st...@nc...]
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:39 AM
> To: Dan Carl
> Cc: clo...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Clonezilla-live] Subject: Re: "error loading operating
> system" xp, drive close to dead
>
>
>
> Dan Carl wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Shiau" <st...@nc...>
> > To: "Dan Carl" <da...@bl...>
> > Cc: <clo...@li...>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Clonezilla-live] "error loading operating system"
> xp, drive
> > close to dead
> >
> >
> > > Dan,
> > > Another option you could try is "-t1", which will load the MBR of
> > syslinux
> > > and put it in the target disk.
> > > Remember to backup important data before you clone.
> >
> > I googled syslinux and it doesn't say it support NTFS, is that right?
> > If it does what would the comand look like? Sorry little confused
> The mbr.bin from syslinux is nothing to do with NTFS, it's just part of
> the boot sector. Nothing to do with filesystem.
> > Can I just copy the the MBR from the old drive to the new one.
> > Like: #dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc bs=446 count=1
> Sure. You can do that. Actually this is what "-j0" did for you. The
> difference is -j0 dumps from the image, not from a disk.
>
> Please keep us posted.
>
Still no luck I copy the MBR with dd reported it copied 446 bytes.

Any thing else I can try?

> >
> > I've backup all the important data, just trying to save myself the
> > hassle of
> > reloading.
> >
> > I also used clonzilla to clone the none booting drive via network, so
> > I have
> > a copy of it as well.
> > Look forward to hearing my options.
> > Dan
> >
> > > Steven.
> > >
> > > Dan Carl wrote:
> > >> I've used clonezilla on Linux drives without a single problem.
> > >> Excellent product and the price is right:)
> > >> I tried to clone my first XP drive
> > >> (my wife's I figured by the clanking it was making it wouldn't last
> > long)
> > >> I after cloning it failed to boot.
> > >> "error loading operating system"
> > >> I searched the archives and found this solution:
> > >>
> > >> [ ] -j0 Use dd to create partition table instead of sfdisk
> > >> or choose
> > >> [ ] -e Client uses the HD CHS value (saved in image) for sfdisk
> > >> when you do a restoration.
> > >>
> > >> Which worked for another user.
> > >>
> > >> My problem is I'm not sure the drive will last through another clone.
> > >> The new drive that won't boot does contain all her data.
> > >> Is there any other option I have besides crossing my fingers and
> > hoping
> > >> it
> > >> survives another clone.
> > >>
> > >> My bois doesn't have an option for LBA mode either.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Dan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Subject: Re: "error loading operating system" xp, drive close to dead

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Dan Carl wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Shiau" <st...@nc...>
> To: "Dan Carl" <da...@bl...>
> Cc: <clo...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Clonezilla-live] "error loading operating system" xp, drive
> close to dead
>
>
> > Dan,
> > Another option you could try is "-t1", which will load the MBR of
> syslinux
> > and put it in the target disk.
> > Remember to backup important data before you clone.
>
> I googled syslinux and it doesn't say it support NTFS, is that right?
> If it does what would the comand look like? Sorry little confused
The mbr.bin from syslinux is nothing to do with NTFS, it's just part of
the boot sector. Nothing to do with filesystem.
> Can I just copy the the MBR from the old drive to the new one.
> Like: #dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc bs=446 count=1
Sure. You can do that. Actually this is what "-j0" did for you. The
difference is -j0 dumps from the image, not from a disk.

Please keep us posted.

>
> I've backup all the important data, just trying to save myself the
> hassle of
> reloading.
>
> I also used clonzilla to clone the none booting drive via network, so
> I have
> a copy of it as well.
> Look forward to hearing my options.
> Dan
>
> > Steven.
> >
> > Dan Carl wrote:
> >> I've used clonezilla on Linux drives without a single problem.
> >> Excellent product and the price is right:)
> >> I tried to clone my first XP drive
> >> (my wife's I figured by the clanking it was making it wouldn't last
> long)
> >> I after cloning it failed to boot.
> >> "error loading operating system"
> >> I searched the archives and found this solution:
> >>
> >> [ ] -j0 Use dd to create partition table instead of sfdisk
> >> or choose
> >> [ ] -e Client uses the HD CHS value (saved in image) for sfdisk
> >> when you do a restoration.
> >>
> >> Which worked for another user.
> >>
> >> My problem is I'm not sure the drive will last through another clone.
> >> The new drive that won't boot does contain all her data.
> >> Is there any other option I have besides crossing my fingers and
> hoping
> >> it
> >> survives another clone.
> >>
> >> My bois doesn't have an option for LBA mode either.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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[Clonezilla-live] Subject: Re: "error loading operating system" xp, drive close to dead

[Dan C. <da...@bl...>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Shiau" <st...@nc...>
To: "Dan Carl" <da...@bl...>
Cc: <clo...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Clonezilla-live] "error loading operating system" xp, drive 
close to dead


> Dan,
> Another option you could try is "-t1", which will load the MBR of syslinux 
> and put it in the target disk.
> Remember to backup important data before you clone.

I googled syslinux and it doesn't say it support NTFS, is that right?
If it does what would the comand look like? Sorry little confused
Can I just copy the the MBR from the old drive to the new one.
Like: #dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc bs=446 count=1

I've backup all the important data, just trying to save myself the hassle of 
reloading.

I also used clonzilla to clone the none booting drive via network, so I have 
a copy of it as well.
Look forward to hearing my options.
Dan

> Steven.
>
> Dan Carl wrote:
>> I've used clonezilla on Linux drives without a single problem.
>> Excellent product and the price is right:)
>> I tried to clone my first XP drive
>> (my wife's I figured by the clanking it was making it wouldn't last long)
>> I after cloning it failed to boot.
>> "error loading operating system"
>> I searched the archives and found this solution:
>>
>> [ ] -j0 Use dd to create partition table instead of sfdisk
>> or choose
>> [ ] -e Client uses the HD CHS value (saved in image) for sfdisk
>> when you do a restoration.
>>
>> Which worked for another user.
>>
>> My problem is I'm not sure the drive will last through another clone.
>> The new drive that won't boot does contain all her data.
>> Is there any other option I have besides crossing my fingers and hoping 
>> it
>> survives another clone.
>>
>> My bois doesn't have an option for LBA mode either.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> world
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>
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] "error loading operating system" xp, drive close to dead

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Dan,
Another option you could try is "-t1", which will load the MBR of 
syslinux and put it in the target disk.
Remember to backup important data before you clone.

Steven.

Dan Carl wrote:
> I've used clonezilla on Linux drives without a single problem.
> Excellent product and the price is right:)
> I tried to clone my first XP drive
> (my wife's I figured by the clanking it was making it wouldn't last long)
> I after cloning it failed to boot.
> "error loading operating system"
> I searched the archives and found this solution:
> 
> [ ] -j0 Use dd to create partition table instead of sfdisk
> or choose
> [ ] -e Client uses the HD CHS value (saved in image) for sfdisk
> when you do a restoration.
> 
> Which worked for another user.
> 
> My problem is I'm not sure the drive will last through another clone.
> The new drive that won't boot does contain all her data.
> Is there any other option I have besides crossing my fingers and hoping it
> survives another clone.
> 
> My bois doesn't have an option for LBA mode either.
> 
> Thanks
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] "error loading operating system" xp, drive close to dead

[albinootje <alb...@gm...>]

Dan Carl wrote:

> I've used clonezilla on Linux drives without a single problem.

Linux rocks for multi-user, multi-platform compatibility :)

> My problem is I'm not sure the drive will last through another clone.
> The new drive that won't boot does contain all her data.

make a proper backup of the data on the new disk,
and then reinstall ms-xp over the install that the new disk
already has, it might solve the booting problems right away

[Clonezilla-live] "error loading operating system" xp, drive close to dead

[Dan C. <da...@bl...>]

I've used clonezilla on Linux drives without a single problem.
Excellent product and the price is right:)
I tried to clone my first XP drive
(my wife's I figured by the clanking it was making it wouldn't last long)
I after cloning it failed to boot.
"error loading operating system"
I searched the archives and found this solution:

[ ] -j0 Use dd to create partition table instead of sfdisk
or choose
[ ] -e Client uses the HD CHS value (saved in image) for sfdisk
when you do a restoration.

Which worked for another user.

My problem is I'm not sure the drive will last through another clone.
The new drive that won't boot does contain all her data.
Is there any other option I have besides crossing my fingers and hoping it
survives another clone.

My bois doesn't have an option for LBA mode either.

Thanks
Dan

Re: [Clonezilla-live] How to run with non-supported network adaptor?

[Rod H. <iwa...@go...>]

Ah, understood - I was using the standard version included with Ubuntu
8.04.1 (3.53).

Thought there was something strange going on!

Many thanks...


Steven Shiau wrote:
> Did you use syslinux 3.71 to create such a bootable USB flash drive ?
> This is described in release notes:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=115473&release_id=620316
> 
> 
> Syslinux 3.71 is used in clonezilla-live-*.zip now. ///NOTE/// If you
> want to create a bootable USB flash drive for this version or later,
> remember to use the syslinux command from syslinux 3.71 or later.
> Otherwise the boot menu won't work
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Hull wrote:
>> I have tried this already, unfortunately.
>>
>> When I boot, I just get a grey screen and an empty box, with "Press
>> [Tab] to edit options" at the bottom. I don't see the familiar selection
>> screen as on the stable version:
>>
>> See Attached.
>>
>> Sorry for the poor image quality - phone-camera...
>>
>> Pressing enter, or b to boot don't do anything.
>>
>> The stable version works fine, but without LAN support, obviously!
>>
>> Steven Shiau wrote:
>>  
>>> Yes, use the experimental Clonezilla live:
>>> http://www.clonezilla.org/download/sourceforge/
>>>
>>> Steven.
>>>
>>> Rod Hull wrote:
>>>    
>>>> I have an Asus EEE PC 901 which contains a currently unsupported
>>>> Atheros
>>>> AR8121/AR8113 PCI-E ethernet adaptor.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way to add support? At the moment, my LAN is
>>>> undetected, so
>>>> I can't use clonezilla to clone my disk to a NFS folder on the LAN.
>>>> Currently this is my only source of media available to mount to...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's
>>>> challenge
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>>>> prizes
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>>>> world
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>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>         
>>>    
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
> 
> 

Re: [Clonezilla-live] How to run with non-supported network adaptor?

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Did you use syslinux 3.71 to create such a bootable USB flash drive ?
This is described in release notes:
http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=115473&release_id=620316

Syslinux 3.71 is used in clonezilla-live-*.zip now. ///NOTE/// If you want to create a bootable USB flash drive for this version or later, remember to use the syslinux command from syslinux 3.71 or later. Otherwise the boot menu won't work



Rod Hull wrote:
> I have tried this already, unfortunately.
>
> When I boot, I just get a grey screen and an empty box, with "Press
> [Tab] to edit options" at the bottom. I don't see the familiar selection
> screen as on the stable version:
>
> See Attached.
>
> Sorry for the poor image quality - phone-camera...
>
> Pressing enter, or b to boot don't do anything.
>
> The stable version works fine, but without LAN support, obviously!
>
> Steven Shiau wrote:
>   
>> Yes, use the experimental Clonezilla live:
>> http://www.clonezilla.org/download/sourceforge/
>>
>> Steven.
>>
>> Rod Hull wrote:
>>     
>>> I have an Asus EEE PC 901 which contains a currently unsupported Atheros
>>> AR8121/AR8113 PCI-E ethernet adaptor.
>>>
>>> Is there any way to add support? At the moment, my LAN is undetected, so
>>> I can't use clonezilla to clone my disk to a NFS folder on the LAN.
>>> Currently this is my only source of media available to mount to...
>>>
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>>
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>>> world
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>>>       
>>     
>>
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>>


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Re: [Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Hi Robert,
Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Steven Shiau wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>> I think we are talking about different story. :)
>> Maybe it's a good idea that you tell us the procedure you have done
>> "step by step".
>> By "step by step" I mean you tell every step you choose and input after
>> you boot Clonezilla live in your machine.
>> This will be much easier for us to discuss.
>
> Steven,
> I ran Clonezilla with the follwing options:
>
> device-device disk/partition to disk/partition clone
>
> disk_to_local_disk
>
> source sda 320 Gb (the internal HD)
>
> target sdb 360 Gb (the external HD)
>
> extra parameters: default
> use partition table from source disk
>
> continue y & y
>
> bootloader to sdb y
>
> continue y
The steps look OK.
>
> When the prog backs up each partition the window header displays
> "restore partition from image file". This sounds as if an image was 
> created and then deleted during restore. I'm probably misinterpreting 
> this. If so, please correct me.
Well, actually that's what shown by partimage which is used to save 
partition to image, however, clonezilla will pipe that to another 
partimage to write it to the partition directly. Therefore actually 
there is no image will be written in any directory.
>
> reboot
>
> The result was the same as I have previously described. No 
> /home/partimage
> anywhere on either drive. Only individual directories in /media and
> /media/disk. The /media/disk/home directory is empty and /media/_home 
> has incomplete content with a bunch of files missing according to "diff".
>
> Again, the directories that appeared only were from the Fedora 
> installation, nothing from Ubuntu.
 From what you have done is disk to disk, as I mentioned, no image will 
be saved.
The question now is, the restored disk sdb should contain the same files 
as sda, isn't it ?

Steven.


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Re: [Clonezilla-live] How to run with non-supported network adaptor?

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Yes, use the experimental Clonezilla live:
http://www.clonezilla.org/download/sourceforge/

Steven.

Rod Hull wrote:
> I have an Asus EEE PC 901 which contains a currently unsupported Atheros
> AR8121/AR8113 PCI-E ethernet adaptor.
>
> Is there any way to add support? At the moment, my LAN is undetected, so
> I can't use clonezilla to clone my disk to a NFS folder on the LAN.
> Currently this is my only source of media available to mount to...
>
> Thanks...
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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[Clonezilla-live] How to run with non-supported network adaptor?

[Rod H. <iwa...@go...>]

I have an Asus EEE PC 901 which contains a currently unsupported Atheros
AR8121/AR8113 PCI-E ethernet adaptor.

Is there any way to add support? At the moment, my LAN is undetected, so
I can't use clonezilla to clone my disk to a NFS folder on the LAN.
Currently this is my only source of media available to mount to...

Thanks...

Re: [Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Robert H. <ho...@co...>]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Steven Shiau wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> I think we are talking about different story. :)
> Maybe it's a good idea that you tell us the procedure you have done
> "step by step".
> By "step by step" I mean you tell every step you choose and input after
> you boot Clonezilla live in your machine.
> This will be much easier for us to discuss.

Steven,
I ran Clonezilla with the follwing options:

device-device disk/partition to disk/partition clone

disk_to_local_disk

source sda 320 Gb   (the internal HD)

target sdb 360 Gb   (the external HD)

extra parameters:  default
                    use partition table from source disk

continue   y & y

bootloader to sdb  y

continue  y

When the prog backs up each partition the window header displays
"restore partition from image file". This sounds as if an image 
was created and then deleted during restore. I'm probably 
misinterpreting this. If so, please correct me.

reboot

The result was the same as I have previously described. No /home/partimage
anywhere on either drive. Only individual directories in /media and
/media/disk. The /media/disk/home directory is empty and /media/_home has 
incomplete content with a bunch of files missing according to "diff".

Again, the directories that appeared only were from the Fedora 
installation, nothing from Ubuntu.

-- 
Bob Holtzman
"If you think you're getting free lunch,
  check the price of the beer"

Re: [Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Robert H. <ho...@co...>]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Steven Shiau wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> I think we are talking about different story. :)
> Maybe it's a good idea that you tell us the procedure you have done
> "step by step".
> By "step by step" I mean you tell every step you choose and input after
> you boot Clonezilla live in your machine.
> This will be much easier for us to discuss.

Steven,
I think you're right. I have to be out of town for a few days but I will 
wipe the external hard drive and rerun Clonezilla, recording all the 
options I chose as soon as I return.

Thanks.

-- 
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"The person who says it cannot be done should not
  interrupt the person doing it."
      -blatantly plagiarized -

Re: [Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Hi Robert,
I think we are talking about different story. :)
Maybe it's a good idea that you tell us the procedure you have done
"step by step".
By "step by step" I mean you tell every step you choose and input after
you boot Clonezilla live in your machine.
This will be much easier for us to discuss.

Regards,
Steven.

Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Steven Shiau wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>> When you use clonezilla live, it will mount your partition of external
>> device as /home/partimage (Clonezilla image home), that's why I need you
>> to show us the content of /home/partimag. If you manually mount that,
>> say you mount it as /media, it's ok, too. Please show us the results of
>> this command:
>> find /media -pirnt
>
> Steven,
> There is no /home/partimage on either distribution. What there *is*
> which I forgot to mention, are _home and _user directories (note the
> underscores) in the /media directory, not /media/disk where the other
> material is. Is this what your talking about?
> The contents of _home:
>
> [holtzm@localhost]~$ sudo ls /media/_home/holtzm
> CAD Desktop Download login Music Pictures Public Templates
> Data Documents gpg_rev_cert_ID_4BBA4B99 mail News Procmail sec_key.asc
> Videos
>
> Is find /media -pirnt a typo? Did you mean print? I made that
> assumption and ran
>
> [holtzm@localhost]~$ find /media -print
> /media
> /media/cdrom
> /media/cdrom0
> /media/.hal-mtab
> /media/floppy
> /media/floppy0
>
> If I'm wrong please clarify. One more thing. To confirm my
> understanding, Clonezilla creates a *single* .iso file in /home or
> /media according to whether I specify an external drive or not
> containing the entire backup. If not please correct me.
>
> Thanks.
>


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Re: [Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Les M. <les...@gm...>]

Robert Holtzman wrote:
>  
> If I'm wrong please clarify. One more thing. To confirm my understanding, 
> Clonezilla creates a *single* .iso file in /home or /media 
> according to whether I specify an external drive or not containing the 
> entire backup. If not please correct me.

No, it creates a directory with several files below it.  I think it 
defaults to a date-time-img name but you have the chance to modify it. 
It creates this in the location mounted as /home/partimag/ during the 
clonezilla-live run.

It is possible to make an iso, following the 'advanced modes' 
instructions here: http://www.clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/ but you 
have to use command line tools after the image directory and contents 
are created.

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Re: [Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Robert H. <ho...@co...>]

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Steven Shiau wrote:

> Robert,
> When you use clonezilla live, it will mount your partition of external
> device as /home/partimage (Clonezilla image home), that's why I need you
> to show us the content of /home/partimag. If you manually mount that,
> say you mount it as /media, it's ok, too. Please show us the results of
> this command:
> find /media -pirnt

Steven,
There is no /home/partimage on either distribution. What there *is* which 
I forgot to mention, are _home and _user directories (note the 
underscores) in the /media directory, not /media/disk where the 
other material is. Is this what your talking about?
The contents of _home:

[holtzm@localhost]~$ sudo ls /media/_home/holtzm
CAD   Desktop	 Download		   login  Music  Pictures  Public 
Templates
Data  Documents  gpg_rev_cert_ID_4BBA4B99  mail   News	 Procmail 
sec_key.asc	Videos

Is find /media -pirnt a typo? Did you mean print? I made that assumption 
and ran

[holtzm@localhost]~$ find /media -print
/media
/media/cdrom
/media/cdrom0
/media/.hal-mtab
/media/floppy
/media/floppy0

If I'm wrong please clarify. One more thing. To confirm my understanding, 
Clonezilla creates a *single* .iso file in /home or /media 
according to whether I specify an external drive or not containing the 
entire backup. If not please correct me.

Thanks.

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Re: [Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Robert,
When you use clonezilla live, it will mount your partition of external
device as /home/partimage (Clonezilla image home), that's why I need you
to show us the content of /home/partimag. If you manually mount that,
say you mount it as /media, it's ok, too. Please show us the results of
this command:
find /media -pirnt

Steven.

Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Steven Shiau wrote:
>
>> Could you show us the contents of your image dir ?
>> Please run
>> ls -alFh /home/partimag/$IMAGENAME
>> (Replace $IMAGENAME as yours)
>> then post the results.
>>
>> Steven.
>>
>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>> I am running a dual boot system with Ubuntu and Fedora. Just tried
>>> out Clonezilla for the first time, backing up to an external hard
>>> drive.
>>> The backup appeared to proceed normally with no error messages but
>>> when I rebooted and checked the external drive I found the Fedora
>>> installation backed up (except for failing to record any of the
>>> contents
>>> from /home!!!) and nothing recorded of the Ubuntu installation.
>>>
>>> Any help with this problem appreciated.
>
> I didn't use /home on the internal drive as the target. I used an
> external drive when mounted is on /media/disk. I don't see a *.iso
> file. The output of the ls command is:
>
> [holtzm@localhost]/media$ ls -alFh disk
> total 128K
> drwxr-xr-x+  21 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 03:22 ./
> drwxr-xr-x    7 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 22:43 ../
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 02:45 bin/
> drwxr-xr-x+   4 root root 4.0K 2008-07-26 13:55 boot/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:20 dev/
> drwxr-xr-x+ 117 root root  12K 2008-08-10 03:22 etc/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:07 home/
> drwxr-xr-x+  16 root root  12K 2008-08-10 02:45 lib/
> drwx------+   2 root root  16K 2008-07-10 18:07 lost+found/
> drwxr-xr-x+   3 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 02:42 media/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-04-07 14:44 mnt/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-04-07 14:44 opt/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:07 proc/
> drwxr-x---+   7 root root 4.0K 2008-08-03 12:33 root/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root  12K 2008-08-10 02:45 sbin/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:20 selinux/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-04-07 14:44 srv/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:07 sys/
> drwxrwxrwt+  59 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 03:22 tmp/
> drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:07 usr/
> drwxr-xr-x+  20 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:45 var/
>
> The home/ directory is empty (almost):
>
> [holtzm@localhost]/media$ ls -al disk/home/
> total 12
> drwxr-xr-x+  2 root root 4096 2008-07-10 18:07 .
> drwxr-xr-x+ 21 root root 4096 2008-08-10 03:22 ..
>
> If it would be helpful I can wipe the external drive, rerun
> Clonezilla, and record the options I chose.
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>


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Re: [Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Robert H. <ho...@co...>]

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Steven Shiau wrote:

> Could you show us the contents of your image dir ?
> Please run
> ls -alFh /home/partimag/$IMAGENAME
> (Replace $IMAGENAME as yours)
> then post the results.
>
> Steven.
>
> Robert Holtzman wrote:
>> I am running a dual boot system with Ubuntu and Fedora. Just tried out 
>> Clonezilla for the first time, backing up to an external hard drive.
>> The backup appeared to proceed normally with no error messages but
>> when I rebooted and checked the external drive I found the Fedora 
>> installation backed up (except for failing to record any of the contents
>> from /home!!!) and nothing recorded of the Ubuntu installation.
>> 
>> Any help with this problem appreciated.

I didn't use /home on the internal drive as the target. I used an external 
drive when mounted is on /media/disk. I don't see a *.iso file. The output 
of the ls command is:

[holtzm@localhost]/media$ ls -alFh disk
total 128K
drwxr-xr-x+  21 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 03:22 ./
drwxr-xr-x    7 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 22:43 ../
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 02:45 bin/
drwxr-xr-x+   4 root root 4.0K 2008-07-26 13:55 boot/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:20 dev/
drwxr-xr-x+ 117 root root  12K 2008-08-10 03:22 etc/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:07 home/
drwxr-xr-x+  16 root root  12K 2008-08-10 02:45 lib/
drwx------+   2 root root  16K 2008-07-10 18:07 lost+found/
drwxr-xr-x+   3 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 02:42 media/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-04-07 14:44 mnt/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-04-07 14:44 opt/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:07 proc/
drwxr-x---+   7 root root 4.0K 2008-08-03 12:33 root/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root  12K 2008-08-10 02:45 sbin/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:20 selinux/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-04-07 14:44 srv/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:07 sys/
drwxrwxrwt+  59 root root 4.0K 2008-08-10 03:22 tmp/
drwxr-xr-x+   2 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:07 usr/
drwxr-xr-x+  20 root root 4.0K 2008-07-10 18:45 var/

The home/ directory is empty (almost):

[holtzm@localhost]/media$ ls -al disk/home/
total 12
drwxr-xr-x+  2 root root 4096 2008-07-10 18:07 .
drwxr-xr-x+ 21 root root 4096 2008-08-10 03:22 ..

If it would be helpful I can wipe the external drive, rerun Clonezilla, 
and record the options I chose.

Thanks for the reply.

-- 
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If it smells it's chemistry, if it crawls it's biology, if it doesn't
work it's physics

Re: [Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Could you show us the contents of your image dir ?
Please run
ls -alFh /home/partimag/$IMAGENAME
(Replace $IMAGENAME as yours)
then post the results.

Steven.

Robert Holtzman wrote:
> I am running a dual boot system with Ubuntu and Fedora. Just tried out 
> Clonezilla for the first time, backing up to an external hard drive.
> The backup appeared to proceed normally with no error messages but
> when I rebooted and checked the external drive I found the Fedora 
> installation backed up (except for failing to record any of the contents
> from /home!!!) and nothing recorded of the Ubuntu installation.
> 
> Any help with this problem appreciated.
> 

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[Clonezilla-live] problems with a dual boot system

[Robert H. <ho...@co...>]

I am running a dual boot system with Ubuntu and Fedora. Just tried out 
Clonezilla for the first time, backing up to an external hard drive.
The backup appeared to proceed normally with no error messages but
when I rebooted and checked the external drive I found the Fedora 
installation backed up (except for failing to record any of the contents
from /home!!!) and nothing recorded of the Ubuntu installation.

Any help with this problem appreciated.

-- 
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  check the price of the beer"

Re: [Clonezilla-live] some partitions skipped by clonezilla

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Clonezilla does not support software raid yet.
That's why it failed there.
To support software RAID is another story... Maybe we will try to add 
this function in the future.

Steven.

eric rosel wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> Sorry if this question has been asked before, we are unable to search the list archives.  Apologies for the long post.
>
> We're using clonezilla-1.1.0-8 on Centos5 with the following filesystems:
>
> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/md0               5080728   1729984   3088488  36% /
> /dev/md1             893093512    413656 846581388   1% /vz
>
> and /dev/md2 is used as swap.
>
> These are made up of 4 x 320GB disks (sda, sdb, sdc, and sdd), on top of which we have configured with Software RAID as:
>
> ==========<snip>==========
> /dev/md0:
>      Raid Level : raid1
>      Array Size : 5245120 (5.00 GiB 5.37 GB)
>    Raid Devices : 2
>     Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>        0       8        1        0      active sync   /dev/sda1
>        1       8       17        1      active sync   /dev/sdb1
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> /dev/md1:
>      Raid Level : raid5
>      Array Size : 921969408 (879.26 GiB 944.10 GB)
>    Raid Devices : 4
>          Layout : left-symmetric
>      Chunk Size : 256K
>     Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>        0       8        2        0      active sync   /dev/sda2
>        1       8       18        1      active sync   /dev/sdb2
>        2       8       34        2      active sync   /dev/sdc2
>        3       8       50        3      active sync   /dev/sdd2
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> /dev/md2:
>      Raid Level : raid1
>      Array Size : 5245120 (5.00 GiB 5.37 GB)
>    Raid Devices : 2
>     Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>        0       8       33        0      active sync   /dev/sdc1
>        1       8       49        1      active sync   /dev/sdd1
> ==========<snip>==========
>
>
> We are trying to save images of the 4 disks.  When we ran Clonezilla, it was able to successfully (AFAIK) save an image of sda1, but it encountered an error when it tried to save an image of sda2:
>
> ==========<snip>==========
> Checking file system integrity in /dev/sda2... done!
> Use lzop to compress the image.
> Split image file with size limit 2000MB
> *****************************************************.
> Volume size: 0 bytes (0 MiB)
> partimage: status: initializing the operation.
> partimage: status: Partimage: 0.6.1
> partimage: status: Image type: NONE
> partimage: status: Saving partition to the image file...
> partimage: status: reading partition properties
> There was an error while reading the bitmap.
>
> partimage: status: commiting buffer cache to disk.
> ==========<snip>==========
>
> It then goes on to save images of sdb1 and sdb2, but we had to cancel since it was saving over ssh and was taking a really long time to finish.  
>
> We connected an external USB drive and tried again.  It encountered the same error on the same partition.  It's now saving sdb2 and we're still waiting for it to finish.
>
> Any hints as to why it's not able to save sda2 ?
> We'll be happy to send more info about our setup, if anyone needs it.
>
> TIA,
> -eric
>
>
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[Clonezilla-live] some partitions skipped by clonezilla

[eric r. <neu...@ya...>]

Hi List,

Sorry if this question has been asked before, we are unable to search the list archives.  Apologies for the long post.

We're using clonezilla-1.1.0-8 on Centos5 with the following filesystems:

Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md0               5080728   1729984   3088488  36% /
/dev/md1             893093512    413656 846581388   1% /vz

and /dev/md2 is used as swap.

These are made up of 4 x 320GB disks (sda, sdb, sdc, and sdd), on top of which we have configured with Software RAID as:

==========<snip>==========
/dev/md0:
     Raid Level : raid1
     Array Size : 5245120 (5.00 GiB 5.37 GB)
   Raid Devices : 2
    Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
       0       8        1        0      active sync   /dev/sda1
       1       8       17        1      active sync   /dev/sdb1
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
/dev/md1:
     Raid Level : raid5
     Array Size : 921969408 (879.26 GiB 944.10 GB)
   Raid Devices : 4
         Layout : left-symmetric
     Chunk Size : 256K
    Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
       0       8        2        0      active sync   /dev/sda2
       1       8       18        1      active sync   /dev/sdb2
       2       8       34        2      active sync   /dev/sdc2
       3       8       50        3      active sync   /dev/sdd2
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
/dev/md2:
     Raid Level : raid1
     Array Size : 5245120 (5.00 GiB 5.37 GB)
   Raid Devices : 2
    Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
       0       8       33        0      active sync   /dev/sdc1
       1       8       49        1      active sync   /dev/sdd1
==========<snip>==========


We are trying to save images of the 4 disks.  When we ran Clonezilla, it was able to successfully (AFAIK) save an image of sda1, but it encountered an error when it tried to save an image of sda2:

==========<snip>==========
Checking file system integrity in /dev/sda2... done!
Use lzop to compress the image.
Split image file with size limit 2000MB
*****************************************************.
Volume size: 0 bytes (0 MiB)
partimage: status: initializing the operation.
partimage: status: Partimage: 0.6.1
partimage: status: Image type: NONE
partimage: status: Saving partition to the image file...
partimage: status: reading partition properties
There was an error while reading the bitmap.

partimage: status: commiting buffer cache to disk.
==========<snip>==========

It then goes on to save images of sdb1 and sdb2, but we had to cancel since it was saving over ssh and was taking a really long time to finish.  

We connected an external USB drive and tried again.  It encountered the same error on the same partition.  It's now saving sdb2 and we're still waiting for it to finish.

Any hints as to why it's not able to save sda2 ?
We'll be happy to send more info about our setup, if anyone needs it.

TIA,
-eric


      

Re: [Clonezilla-live] Create an image of the disk without rebooting the server

[G. M. <gma...@is...>]

Kristian Erik Hermansen ha scritto:
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:15:19 +0200,  "G. Massera" <gma...@is...> wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>> yes... I will try to clone a live machine... I looking for a way to
>> prevent writing on disk for a while... the time necessary to take an
>> image of the disk.
>> Somebody knows a way to enable a kind of write-protection on a linux
>> partition for a certain amount of time ???
>> Another way, could be to use the initrd and run the command for take the
>> image of the disk before the mount command... but at that time, the
>> network is not active... right ?!?!?
>>     
>
> Wouldn't merely a mount -o remount ro of the appropriate partitions
> work?  Then it's read-only until you finish cloning the disk, but the
> system is still live :-)  Good luck...
>   

Yeaahhh... I will try !! :-) Thank you.
Just a final question... How can I extract the program and the
command-line used for take the image of a partition ???
I need only the command for the image, because I need just to update the
image of partion and not the partition-table and GRUB.

Thank you,
Gianluca

Re: [Clonezilla-live] Create an image of the disk without rebooting the server

[Kristian E. H. <kri...@gm...>]

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:15:19 +0200,  "G. Massera" <gma...@is...> wrote:
> Hello,
> yes... I will try to clone a live machine... I looking for a way to
> prevent writing on disk for a while... the time necessary to take an
> image of the disk.
> Somebody knows a way to enable a kind of write-protection on a linux
> partition for a certain amount of time ???
> Another way, could be to use the initrd and run the command for take the
> image of the disk before the mount command... but at that time, the
> network is not active... right ?!?!?

Wouldn't merely a mount -o remount ro of the appropriate partitions
work?  Then it's read-only until you finish cloning the disk, but the
system is still live :-)  Good luck...
-- 
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Create an image of the disk without rebooting the server

[Les M. <les...@gm...>]

Steven Shiau wrote:
> Hi,
> Clonezilla is an image tool, which means it _images_ the used blocks of 
>   file system in a partition, not to mount the file system and save each 
> files. Therefore, the answer is no.
> Although maybe it's possible you can try to force to save the mounted 
> partition, the saved image might be corrupted.
> 
> In the future, we might add file-based backup and restore... Who knows...

I'd really appreciate having this.  It might require some tool to save 
the existing partition/filesystem/bootblock  for reconstruction - and a 
way to create/edit it if you don't have it or want to make changes.

It would be really nice if this could be integrated with backuppc 
(http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/) which does a great job of everything 
except bare metal restores.  It can, however, deliver a tar image with 
the recent full/incremental runs already merged using a command line 
tool which can be executed via ssh.  It would just take a few more 
scripted steps than clonezilla already does to deal with the grunge work 
of building the partitions, making filesystems, then mounting them 
somewhere and extracting the tar contents.  It's not impossible to do 
this manually, but there are a lot of steps to it.

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