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[Clonezilla-live] Restored Disk Image: eth issue

[RSCL M. <rsc...@gm...>]

Hi,

My concern is not directly related to Clonezilla, but generic to theconcept
of cloning.

I have a server with CentOS 5.3 and Samba.
As a back up measure against HDD and other peripheral failure, I have
purchased an identical PC and I plan to clone the main server and then run
rsync on daily basis.
Everything seems fine in this schematic and I am fine with this backup
approach.

My concern is:
Both the server's have identical specs sans the ethernet.
When I will restore the image on the 2nd PC, and boot, it will alert for a *new
ethernet device found* and by default it will create a new interface ETH1

Is there any way to avoid creating the new ethernet device ETH1 and be able
to use the the original ETH0.

One thought which crossed my mind, but I have not tried is, after cloning, I
can boot the server using a live distro (may be knopix), mount the cloned
HDD and make changes to the ETH configuration, namely MAC address or
whatever else. Not sure what should I change, and then boot the closed HDD.

Does this make sense ? Will it help.
Can someone throw light on how to prevent the creation of ETH1.

Thx in advance.

Best regards,
Vai

Re: [Clonezilla-live] on-the-fly performance

[Lukas G. <luk...@co...>]

On 09.04.2010 09:50, Lukas Grässlin wrote:
> On 31.03.2010 11:10, Steven Shiau wrote:
>> Right now I do not have real machines which I can test. Therefore I can
>> not give you the numbers.
>> If anyone on this forum has such numbers to share, please share that.
>>
>> BTW, there is a performance improvement in partclone 0.2.8, and it's now
>> included in clonezilla live 20100330-karmic. Could you please give it a
>> try? To see if any big difference.
>> Please let us know the results if you try that.
> 
> So, I tried the 20100330 clonezilla ISO and the results with the speed
> are the same. I think the main reason for that bad speed is, that on the
> client side (the vm, where the physical machine is migrated to) the
> partclone.restore process procudes almost 100% CPU load. (It's s a vm
> with two cores, but it only uses one).
> I think that is the main bottleneck.

Ok, I found out how to use partimage instead of partclone ;) and it is
_much_ faster. It transfers ca 1 - 1.5 GB/min, 17 - 25 MB/s which is
much faster than partclone in my case.

Why is partclone per default prefered? Cause it supports more filesystems?

> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steven.
>>
>> On 2010/3/29 下午 11:31, Lukas Grässlin wrote:
>>> Both SATA Disks, the destination is a virtual machine but I did some
>>> IO-Performance tests with dd on the virtual machine. It is definitely
>>> able to write and read with more than 20MB/s. (I did dd if=/dev/sda
>>> of=/dev/zero bs=100M count=10 etc.)
>>>
>>> The network can't really limit the speed, so I don't know what is
>>> could be.
>>>
>>> What's your experience with the speed? Is it faster?
>>>
>>> I'll do some tests on my own with dd and netcat or so.
>>>
>>> ((sorry, forgot to click the reply-all button ;) ))
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29.03.2010 16:26, Steven Shiau wrote:
>>>> How about the speed when you save the image?
>>>> What's the disk types in the source and destination machines? SATA?
>>>> PATA? USB? Or?
>>>>
>>>> Steven.
>>>>
>>>> Lukas Grässlin wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> whats's you experience with the onthefly migration (that partclone over
>>>>> netcat thing) especially perfomance?
>>>>>
>>>>> I never get more than ~300MB/min (=~ 5MB/s) in a Gigabit network which
>>>>> is very dissappoiting. I already tried it without compression etc but I
>>>>> didn't get more speed. (Further the machines are fast enough to do it
>>>>> faster than 5MB/s with compression).
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that a partclone issue? Have you any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 


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[Clonezilla-live] Force use partclone.dd or dd

[Lukas G. <luk...@co...>]

Hi there,

is there somewhere an option to force use partclone.dd or dd instead of
partclone.foobarfs? I didn't find an easy way to force use it. Same
question for using partimage for on-the-fly-migration..?

Regards,
	Lukas

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Re: [Clonezilla-live] on-the-fly performance

[Lukas G. <luk...@co...>]

On 31.03.2010 11:10, Steven Shiau wrote:
> Right now I do not have real machines which I can test. Therefore I can
> not give you the numbers.
> If anyone on this forum has such numbers to share, please share that.
> 
> BTW, there is a performance improvement in partclone 0.2.8, and it's now
> included in clonezilla live 20100330-karmic. Could you please give it a
> try? To see if any big difference.
> Please let us know the results if you try that.

So, I tried the 20100330 clonezilla ISO and the results with the speed
are the same. I think the main reason for that bad speed is, that on the
client side (the vm, where the physical machine is migrated to) the
partclone.restore process procudes almost 100% CPU load. (It's s a vm
with two cores, but it only uses one).
I think that is the main bottleneck.

> 
> Regards,
> Steven.
> 
> On 2010/3/29 下午 11:31, Lukas Grässlin wrote:
>> Both SATA Disks, the destination is a virtual machine but I did some
>> IO-Performance tests with dd on the virtual machine. It is definitely
>> able to write and read with more than 20MB/s. (I did dd if=/dev/sda
>> of=/dev/zero bs=100M count=10 etc.)
>>
>> The network can't really limit the speed, so I don't know what is
>> could be.
>>
>> What's your experience with the speed? Is it faster?
>>
>> I'll do some tests on my own with dd and netcat or so.
>>
>> ((sorry, forgot to click the reply-all button ;) ))
>>
>>
>> On 29.03.2010 16:26, Steven Shiau wrote:
>>> How about the speed when you save the image?
>>> What's the disk types in the source and destination machines? SATA?
>>> PATA? USB? Or?
>>>
>>> Steven.
>>>
>>> Lukas Grässlin wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> whats's you experience with the onthefly migration (that partclone over
>>>> netcat thing) especially perfomance?
>>>>
>>>> I never get more than ~300MB/min (=~ 5MB/s) in a Gigabit network which
>>>> is very dissappoiting. I already tried it without compression etc but I
>>>> didn't get more speed. (Further the machines are fast enough to do it
>>>> faster than 5MB/s with compression).
>>>>
>>>> Is that a partclone issue? Have you any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Lukas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 


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Re: [Clonezilla-live] French keymap doesn't work

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

On 2010/4/6 下午 04:40, Sebastien Douche wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 02:34, Steven Shiau<st...@nc...>  wrote:
>> Yes, this is shown in the known issues:
>> http://free.nchc.org.tw/clonezilla-live/stable/Known-issues-Clonezilla-live.txt
>
> Oh! sorry.
>
>> Since I do not have french keymap here, would you please kindly to file a
>> bug report about package console-common on Ubuntu launchpad
>> (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs)?
>> or Debian bug report (http://www.debian.org/Bugs/)?
>
> Not sure It's a debian / ubuntu bug, I haven't this problem with any
> debian / ubuntu distribution.
Really?
Is that possible you can:
1. Download Debian live, e.g. 
http://free.nchc.org.tw/debian-cd/5.0.4-live/i386/iso-cd/debian-live-504-i386-standard.iso

2. Boot it, enter command line prompt

3. sudo -i

4. dpkg-reconfigure console-data

then try to see if it works for French keymap or not?
If you are sure there is no such issue, then the problem is definitely 
on Clonezilla live...

Thank in advance.

Steven.

>
>

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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Broadcom firmware

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

On 2010/4/5 下午 10:03, Sebastien Douche wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 03:43, Steven Shiau<st...@nc...>  wrote:
>> Give alternative (Ubuntu-based) Clonezilla live 20100330-karmic or
>> 20100403-lucid a try.
>
> Hi Steven,
> Already tried 20100330-karmic w/o success (I don't remember the
> message). But it works with 20100403-lucid!
>
OK. Thanks for confirming that. Good to know that.

Steven.
>

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Re: [Clonezilla-live] French keymap doesn't work

[Sebastien D. <sd...@gm...>]

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 02:34, Steven Shiau <st...@nc...> wrote:
> Yes, this is shown in the known issues:
> http://free.nchc.org.tw/clonezilla-live/stable/Known-issues-Clonezilla-live.txt

Oh! sorry.

> Since I do not have french keymap here, would you please kindly to file a
> bug report about package console-common on Ubuntu launchpad
> (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs)?
> or Debian bug report (http://www.debian.org/Bugs/)?

Not sure It's a debian / ubuntu bug, I haven't this problem with any
debian / ubuntu distribution.


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Re: [Clonezilla-live] French keymap doesn't work

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Yes, this is shown in the known issues:
http://free.nchc.org.tw/clonezilla-live/stable/Known-issues-Clonezilla-live.txt

Since I do not have french keymap here, would you please kindly to file 
a bug report about package console-common on Ubuntu launchpad 
(https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs)?
or Debian bug report (http://www.debian.org/Bugs/)?
Thanks.

Steven.

On 2010/4/6 上午 02:19, Sebastien Douche wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 16:02, Sebastien Douche<sd...@gm...>  wrote:
>> With all versions I used,  the keymap is always qwerty.
>
> Note: It works when you when choose azerty in the long list (tested with lucid).
>

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Re: [Clonezilla-live] French keymap doesn't work

[Sebastien D. <sd...@gm...>]

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 16:02, Sebastien Douche <sd...@gm...> wrote:
> With all versions I used,  the keymap is always qwerty.

Note: It works when you when choose azerty in the long list (tested with lucid).

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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Broadcom firmware

[Sebastien D. <sd...@gm...>]

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 03:43, Steven Shiau <st...@nc...> wrote:
> Give alternative (Ubuntu-based) Clonezilla live 20100330-karmic or
> 20100403-lucid a try.

Hi Steven,
Already tried 20100330-karmic w/o success (I don't remember the
message). But it works with 20100403-lucid!


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[Clonezilla-live] French keymap doesn't work

[Sebastien D. <sd...@gm...>]

Hi,
With all versions I used,  the keymap is always qwerty.


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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Suggested new menu for Clonezilla-Live

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Hi Aaron,
Thanks for proposing this. Yes, the way you showed is much better then 
the menus we have now. We will think about this and try to implement 
this in the future.
If we started to work on this, we will let you know.
Thanks again.

Regards,
Steven.

Aaron Whitehouse wrote:
> Hello,
>
> (Sending it again, as it seems my first one didn't make it through.)
>
> I love Clonezilla and use it for backing up known-good states across 
> both Windows and Gnu/Linux.
>
> To me, the power of Clonezilla is right up there, or possibly ahead, of 
> competing projects like Ghost.
>
> I have been using Gnu/Linux now for about six years and am pretty 
> comfortable with concepts such as mounting etc. I do, however, still 
> find it very difficult and stressful to answer the questions correctly 
> when backing up and restoring images. Two things that the current 
> Clonezilla menu does that I think could be avoided are the following:
> 1) The current menu gives a lot of alternatives like "where would you 
> like to save to/restore from". Where possible, it would be great if 
> these were customised, so that when someone was backing up, it said 
> "save to" and when they were restoring, it said "restore from".
> 2) The menu uses the concept of "partimag". I don't think that it is 
> necessary to introduce this, unless the user chooses to drop to a shell 
> and is manually mounting the location (in which case, it could be 
> printed above the shell prompt).
>
> As a suggestion (and please feel free not to follow it), I see the 
> following menus as preferable (after the keymap etc. questions):
>
> ==
> Do you wish to backup your computer's disk/partition to a Clonezilla 
> image or restore from a Clonezilla image to one of your computer's 
> disks/partitions?
> (a) Backup to an image
> (b) Restore from an image
> ==
> Do you wish to [backup/restore to, depending on the answer to the above] 
> an entire disk, or just a partition of a disk?
> (a) An entire disk
> (b) A partition
> ==
> [If backing up:] Which [disk/partition, depending on the answer to the 
> above] would you like to backup?
> [If restoring:] Where is the Clonezilla image that you would like to 
> restore?
> ==
> [If backing up:] Where would you like to save the image of this 
> [disk/partition, depending on the above answer]?
> [If restoring:] Which [disk/partition, depending on the above answer] 
> would you like to overwrite with this Clonezilla image? WARNING: this 
> will delete anything that is currently on this [disk/partition, 
> depending on the above answer].
> ==
> [Existing final questions about compression etc., though no "mode" 
> question should be necessary, as it should use "savedisk" if question 1 
> was "(a) backup" and question 2 was "(a) An entire disk", restoreparts 
> if the answers were (b), (b) and so on.]
> =====
>
> Not only do I find these questions a lot clearer, but I think that they 
> better reflect the way that people think about the process. If I asked 
> someone what they wanted Clonezilla to do, I would expect them to say 
> that they wanted to "Backup their disk to an external hard drive" (note 
> that this sentence fits question 1, 2 and 3 in order), or "Restore the 
> image that I have on this DVD over the top of the windows partition". It 
> also fits with the way that most copying tools work, eg "cp /from/here 
> /to/here" (matching question 1, 2 and 3 in order above).
>
> Using Clonezilla is a very anxious procedure at the best of times, as 
> the risks of something going seriously wrong (if a user gets things the 
> wrong way around, for example) are high. I therefore think it would be 
> excellent if the menus were as clear as possible.
>
> I'm happy to discuss these thoughts further, but I am not on the list, 
> so please CC me in.
>
> Please take this in the way that it was intended. Your software is 
> absolutely brilliant, so I wanted to do my best to help with something 
> that I can help with -- which is making things clearer to users.
>
> Regards,
>
> Aaron
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Restoring Dell image to different/larger drive/partition

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Hi Steve,
Could you give the latest testing Clonezilla live a try? E.g. 1.2.4-35 
or 20100402-lucid?

Steven.

Steve Poe wrote:
>> Did you see any error message or warning message when restoring?
>>     
>
> Yes, but unfortunately, I don't have the specifics. It was in the middle of the 2nd partition, NTFS, stating the partition image was corrupt.
>
>   
>>> 2. Remove Dell partition, save image with 1.2.4.-28. Restore process would break with multiple attempts. 
>>>
>>>       
>> What did you mean by "multiple attempts"?
>>     
>
> I tried loading the image from the network, from a Samba share, multiple times and two identical systems and received the same error message. When I cloned the system with 1.2.3-37 and the loaded the image, there were no errors.  I could suspect a network hiccup (1Gb with 1.4-2.0Gb per min transfer average), corrupting the image, but I cannot prove that yet. 
>
> The 3rd partition, NTFS, seemed to transfer fine. 
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Steven Shiau wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Steve Poe wrote:
>>     
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> Not a problem. Windows boots fine when the Dell partition is removed. There was two issues at hand:
>>>
>>> 1. Restoring to larger disk proportionally with 1.2.4-28 would not allow the system to boot. No resize restore worked fine.
>>>     (yes, Windows was looking at sda2 for booting in this image)
>>>
>>>       
>> Did you see any error message or warning message when restoring?
>>     
>>> 2. Remove Dell partition, save image with 1.2.4.-28. Restore process would break with multiple attempts. 
>>>
>>>       
>> What did you mean by "multiple attempts"?
>>
>> Steven.
>>     
>>>     - repeat process with earlier Clonezilla and restore process was fine.
>>>
>>> To your point, I did try removing the Dell partition from within fdisk but did not change/edit the win.ini. My bad.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Bill Gurley wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Steve:
>>>>
>>>> Forgive me if this is obvious, but it's not clear from the thread if you 
>>>> are aware of this.
>>>>
>>>> Windows XP has a file in the root directory of C: (it may be a hidden 
>>>> file;  I can't remember) called boot.ini.  That file tells Windows which 
>>>> partition that the XP installation is on.  If windows was booting from 
>>>> the second partition in the original installation and you have now 
>>>> removed the Dell utility partition, then maybe it is now needing to boot 
>>>> from the first partition.  In this case you would need to edit the 
>>>> boot.ini file accordingly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve Poe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Steven,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did remove the Dell partition while in Windows then confirmed in fdisk that it isn't there. However, I think the root cause is something
>>>>> with the 1.2.4-28 version (maybe partclone) since when I restored it, I would receive a CRC stdin error. I restored the previous image copy
>>>>> I had, saved the image with 1.2.3-37 then it was fine. I still have not tried to expand the newly revised image.
>>>>>
>>>>> Through one of the FAQ documents, I remember how to resize the partition while booting/running Clonezilla, but I really want to use the
>>>>> resize proportionally. 
>>>>>
>>>>> A side, but maybe related, question on resizing: Do I need to have the use "'r'" for resize option enabled when using "-k1"?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Steven Shiau wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> On 2010/4/2 上午 01:12, Steve Poe wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> I am using Clonezilla 1.2.4-28 to clone a Dell E4300 Windows XP laptop.
>>>>>>> I've noticed that there is a hidden partition (sda1 - FAT16) which
>>>>>>> contains the Dell utility. Windows boots from sda2 and we have a data
>>>>>>> directory on sda3.
>>>>>>> The laptop comes with a 160GB. If I insert a 250GB drive and
>>>>>>> proportionally size the drive, the system fails to boot (no blue screen)
>>>>>>> or we get a NTLDR (0xc000000e).
>>>>>>> If I don't do a proportional resize, the image loads fine.
>>>>>>> I don't know of a way to reimage without the Dell partition, outside of
>>>>>>> a complete rebuild, but I cannot expand to a larger disk.
>>>>>>> I have also tried doing a backup of the Windows partition (sda2) and
>>>>>>> force it to sda1 but I've had no luck with that.
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> 1. Do not choose "-k1", let Clonezilla clones the exact partition size 
>>>>>> for you. Make sure it can boot, then
>>>>>> 2. Use GParted live (http://gparted.sf.net) to enlarge the partition you 
>>>>>> want, and do not touch the hidden partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steven.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Steve
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Broadcom firmware

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Give alternative (Ubuntu-based) Clonezilla live 20100330-karmic or 
20100403-lucid a try.
For more info, please check:
http://drbl.sourceforge.net/faq/fine-print.php?path=./2_System/57_why_ubuntu_based_clonezilla_live.faq#57_why_ubuntu_based_clonezilla_live.faq

Steven.

On 2010/4/5 上午 02:45, Philipp Flesch wrote:
> Sebastien Douche schrieb:
>>
>>> of course debian has ... which PowerEdge?
>>> Please try firmware-bnx2 - Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtremeII for
>>> PE 2900 for example
>>>
>>
>> You're right, the package is in the non-free repos. But I talk about
>> Clonezilla, not the Debian distribution. Do you said the package
>> exists also in CloneZilla Live? If so, how activate it?
>>
>>
> You're right ... of course the package is not part of CloneZilla Live :-(
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Broadcom firmware

[Philipp F. <ph...@ph...>]

Sebastien Douche schrieb:
>
>> of course debian has ... which PowerEdge?
>> Please try firmware-bnx2 - Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtremeII for
>> PE 2900 for example
>>     
>
> You're right, the package is in the non-free repos. But I talk about
> Clonezilla, not the Debian distribution. Do you said the package
> exists also in CloneZilla Live? If so, how activate it?
>
>   
You're right ... of course the package is not part of CloneZilla Live :-(

Re: [Clonezilla-live] Broadcom firmware

[Sebastien D. <sd...@gm...>]

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 20:11, Philipp Flesch <ph...@ph...> wrote:
> Hi Sebastien

Hi Philipp

> of course debian has ... which PowerEdge?
> Please try firmware-bnx2 - Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtremeII for
> PE 2900 for example

You're right, the package is in the non-free repos. But I talk about
Clonezilla, not the Debian distribution. Do you said the package
exists also in CloneZilla Live? If so, how activate it?

Seems like a dumb question, sorry :/


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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Broadcom firmware

[Philipp F. <ph...@ph...>]

Hi Sebastien

Sebastien Douche schrieb:
> Hi folks :),
> I'm testing Clonezilla and I have an issue with Dell servers: internal
> network card is an Broadcom. Debian doesn't have the right firmware
> (closed source), and the Ubuntu version doesn't work on these
> machines. How I could resolve this issue?
>
>   
of course debian has ... which PowerEdge?
Please try firmware-bnx2 - Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtremeII for 
PE 2900 for example

Philipp

[Clonezilla-live] Broadcom firmware

[Sebastien D. <sd...@gm...>]

Hi folks :),
I'm testing Clonezilla and I have an issue with Dell servers: internal
network card is an Broadcom. Debian doesn't have the right firmware
(closed source), and the Ubuntu version doesn't work on these
machines. How I could resolve this issue?

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[Clonezilla-live] Suggested new menu for Clonezilla-Live

[Aaron W. <li...@wh...>]

Hello,

(Sending it again, as it seems my first one didn't make it through.)

I love Clonezilla and use it for backing up known-good states across 
both Windows and Gnu/Linux.

To me, the power of Clonezilla is right up there, or possibly ahead, of 
competing projects like Ghost.

I have been using Gnu/Linux now for about six years and am pretty 
comfortable with concepts such as mounting etc. I do, however, still 
find it very difficult and stressful to answer the questions correctly 
when backing up and restoring images. Two things that the current 
Clonezilla menu does that I think could be avoided are the following:
1) The current menu gives a lot of alternatives like "where would you 
like to save to/restore from". Where possible, it would be great if 
these were customised, so that when someone was backing up, it said 
"save to" and when they were restoring, it said "restore from".
2) The menu uses the concept of "partimag". I don't think that it is 
necessary to introduce this, unless the user chooses to drop to a shell 
and is manually mounting the location (in which case, it could be 
printed above the shell prompt).

As a suggestion (and please feel free not to follow it), I see the 
following menus as preferable (after the keymap etc. questions):

==
Do you wish to backup your computer's disk/partition to a Clonezilla 
image or restore from a Clonezilla image to one of your computer's 
disks/partitions?
(a) Backup to an image
(b) Restore from an image
==
Do you wish to [backup/restore to, depending on the answer to the above] 
an entire disk, or just a partition of a disk?
(a) An entire disk
(b) A partition
==
[If backing up:] Which [disk/partition, depending on the answer to the 
above] would you like to backup?
[If restoring:] Where is the Clonezilla image that you would like to 
restore?
==
[If backing up:] Where would you like to save the image of this 
[disk/partition, depending on the above answer]?
[If restoring:] Which [disk/partition, depending on the above answer] 
would you like to overwrite with this Clonezilla image? WARNING: this 
will delete anything that is currently on this [disk/partition, 
depending on the above answer].
==
[Existing final questions about compression etc., though no "mode" 
question should be necessary, as it should use "savedisk" if question 1 
was "(a) backup" and question 2 was "(a) An entire disk", restoreparts 
if the answers were (b), (b) and so on.]
=====

Not only do I find these questions a lot clearer, but I think that they 
better reflect the way that people think about the process. If I asked 
someone what they wanted Clonezilla to do, I would expect them to say 
that they wanted to "Backup their disk to an external hard drive" (note 
that this sentence fits question 1, 2 and 3 in order), or "Restore the 
image that I have on this DVD over the top of the windows partition". It 
also fits with the way that most copying tools work, eg "cp /from/here 
/to/here" (matching question 1, 2 and 3 in order above).

Using Clonezilla is a very anxious procedure at the best of times, as 
the risks of something going seriously wrong (if a user gets things the 
wrong way around, for example) are high. I therefore think it would be 
excellent if the menus were as clear as possible.

I'm happy to discuss these thoughts further, but I am not on the list, 
so please CC me in.

Please take this in the way that it was intended. Your software is 
absolutely brilliant, so I wanted to do my best to help with something 
that I can help with -- which is making things clearer to users.

Regards,

Aaron

Re: [Clonezilla-live] Restoring Dell image to different/larger drive/partition

[Steve P. <Ste...@de...>]

> Did you see any error message or warning message when restoring?

Yes, but unfortunately, I don't have the specifics. It was in the middle of the 2nd partition, NTFS, stating the partition image was corrupt.

>> 2. Remove Dell partition, save image with 1.2.4.-28. Restore process would break with multiple attempts. 
>> 
> What did you mean by "multiple attempts"?

I tried loading the image from the network, from a Samba share, multiple times and two identical systems and received the same error message. When I cloned the system with 1.2.3-37 and the loaded the image, there were no errors.  I could suspect a network hiccup (1Gb with 1.4-2.0Gb per min transfer average), corrupting the image, but I cannot prove that yet. 

The 3rd partition, NTFS, seemed to transfer fine. 

Steve


On Apr 2, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Steven Shiau wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> 
> Steve Poe wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> Not a problem. Windows boots fine when the Dell partition is removed. There was two issues at hand:
>> 
>> 1. Restoring to larger disk proportionally with 1.2.4-28 would not allow the system to boot. No resize restore worked fine.
>>     (yes, Windows was looking at sda2 for booting in this image)
>> 
> Did you see any error message or warning message when restoring?
>> 2. Remove Dell partition, save image with 1.2.4.-28. Restore process would break with multiple attempts. 
>> 
> What did you mean by "multiple attempts"?
> 
> Steven.
>>     - repeat process with earlier Clonezilla and restore process was fine.
>> 
>> To your point, I did try removing the Dell partition from within fdisk but did not change/edit the win.ini. My bad.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Bill Gurley wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Steve:
>>> 
>>> Forgive me if this is obvious, but it's not clear from the thread if you 
>>> are aware of this.
>>> 
>>> Windows XP has a file in the root directory of C: (it may be a hidden 
>>> file;  I can't remember) called boot.ini.  That file tells Windows which 
>>> partition that the XP installation is on.  If windows was booting from 
>>> the second partition in the original installation and you have now 
>>> removed the Dell utility partition, then maybe it is now needing to boot 
>>> from the first partition.  In this case you would need to edit the 
>>> boot.ini file accordingly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steve Poe wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Steven,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>> 
>>>> I did remove the Dell partition while in Windows then confirmed in fdisk that it isn't there. However, I think the root cause is something
>>>> with the 1.2.4-28 version (maybe partclone) since when I restored it, I would receive a CRC stdin error. I restored the previous image copy
>>>> I had, saved the image with 1.2.3-37 then it was fine. I still have not tried to expand the newly revised image.
>>>> 
>>>> Through one of the FAQ documents, I remember how to resize the partition while booting/running Clonezilla, but I really want to use the
>>>> resize proportionally. 
>>>> 
>>>> A side, but maybe related, question on resizing: Do I need to have the use "'r'" for resize option enabled when using "-k1"?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Steven Shiau wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010/4/2 上午 01:12, Steve Poe wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am using Clonezilla 1.2.4-28 to clone a Dell E4300 Windows XP laptop.
>>>>>> I've noticed that there is a hidden partition (sda1 - FAT16) which
>>>>>> contains the Dell utility. Windows boots from sda2 and we have a data
>>>>>> directory on sda3.
>>>>>> The laptop comes with a 160GB. If I insert a 250GB drive and
>>>>>> proportionally size the drive, the system fails to boot (no blue screen)
>>>>>> or we get a NTLDR (0xc000000e).
>>>>>> If I don't do a proportional resize, the image loads fine.
>>>>>> I don't know of a way to reimage without the Dell partition, outside of
>>>>>> a complete rebuild, but I cannot expand to a larger disk.
>>>>>> I have also tried doing a backup of the Windows partition (sda2) and
>>>>>> force it to sda1 but I've had no luck with that.
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Do not choose "-k1", let Clonezilla clones the exact partition size 
>>>>> for you. Make sure it can boot, then
>>>>> 2. Use GParted live (http://gparted.sf.net) to enlarge the partition you 
>>>>> want, and do not touch the hidden partition.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steven.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Steve
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Restoring Dell image to different/larger drive/partition

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Hi Steve,

Steve Poe wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Not a problem. Windows boots fine when the Dell partition is removed. There was two issues at hand:
>
> 1. Restoring to larger disk proportionally with 1.2.4-28 would not allow the system to boot. No resize restore worked fine.
>      (yes, Windows was looking at sda2 for booting in this image)
>   
Did you see any error message or warning message when restoring?
> 2. Remove Dell partition, save image with 1.2.4.-28. Restore process would break with multiple attempts. 
>   
What did you mean by "multiple attempts"?

Steven.
>      - repeat process with earlier Clonezilla and restore process was fine.
>
> To your point, I did try removing the Dell partition from within fdisk but did not change/edit the win.ini. My bad.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Bill Gurley wrote:
>
>   
>> Steve:
>>
>> Forgive me if this is obvious, but it's not clear from the thread if you 
>> are aware of this.
>>
>> Windows XP has a file in the root directory of C: (it may be a hidden 
>> file;  I can't remember) called boot.ini.  That file tells Windows which 
>> partition that the XP installation is on.  If windows was booting from 
>> the second partition in the original installation and you have now 
>> removed the Dell utility partition, then maybe it is now needing to boot 
>> from the first partition.  In this case you would need to edit the 
>> boot.ini file accordingly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Poe wrote:
>>     
>>> Steven,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> I did remove the Dell partition while in Windows then confirmed in fdisk that it isn't there. However, I think the root cause is something
>>> with the 1.2.4-28 version (maybe partclone) since when I restored it, I would receive a CRC stdin error. I restored the previous image copy
>>> I had, saved the image with 1.2.3-37 then it was fine. I still have not tried to expand the newly revised image.
>>>
>>> Through one of the FAQ documents, I remember how to resize the partition while booting/running Clonezilla, but I really want to use the
>>> resize proportionally. 
>>>
>>> A side, but maybe related, question on resizing: Do I need to have the use "'r'" for resize option enabled when using "-k1"?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Steven Shiau wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> On 2010/4/2 上午 01:12, Steve Poe wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I am using Clonezilla 1.2.4-28 to clone a Dell E4300 Windows XP laptop.
>>>>> I've noticed that there is a hidden partition (sda1 - FAT16) which
>>>>> contains the Dell utility. Windows boots from sda2 and we have a data
>>>>> directory on sda3.
>>>>> The laptop comes with a 160GB. If I insert a 250GB drive and
>>>>> proportionally size the drive, the system fails to boot (no blue screen)
>>>>> or we get a NTLDR (0xc000000e).
>>>>> If I don't do a proportional resize, the image loads fine.
>>>>> I don't know of a way to reimage without the Dell partition, outside of
>>>>> a complete rebuild, but I cannot expand to a larger disk.
>>>>> I have also tried doing a backup of the Windows partition (sda2) and
>>>>> force it to sda1 but I've had no luck with that.
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>           
>>>> 1. Do not choose "-k1", let Clonezilla clones the exact partition size 
>>>> for you. Make sure it can boot, then
>>>> 2. Use GParted live (http://gparted.sf.net) to enlarge the partition you 
>>>> want, and do not touch the hidden partition.
>>>>
>>>> Steven.
>>>>         
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Restoring Dell image to different/larger drive/partition

[Steven S. <st...@nc...>]

Hi Steve,

Steve Poe wrote:
> Steven,
>
> Thanks for your input.
>   
:)
> I did remove the Dell partition while in Windows then confirmed in fdisk that it isn't there. However, I think the root cause is something
> with the 1.2.4-28 version (maybe partclone) since when I restored it, I would receive a CRC stdin error. I restored the previous image copy
> I had, saved the image with 1.2.3-37 then it was fine. I still have not tried to expand the newly revised image.
>
> Through one of the FAQ documents, I remember how to resize the partition while booting/running Clonezilla, but I really want to use the
> resize proportionally. 
>
> A side, but maybe related, question on resizing: Do I need to have the use "'r'" for resize option enabled when using "-k1"?
>   
When "-k1" is checked, "-r" function will be forced to be on actually.

Steven.
>  
> Thanks
> Steve
>
> On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Steven Shiau wrote:
>
>   
>> On 2010/4/2 上午 01:12, Steve Poe wrote:
>>     
>>> I am using Clonezilla 1.2.4-28 to clone a Dell E4300 Windows XP laptop.
>>> I've noticed that there is a hidden partition (sda1 - FAT16) which
>>> contains the Dell utility. Windows boots from sda2 and we have a data
>>> directory on sda3.
>>> The laptop comes with a 160GB. If I insert a 250GB drive and
>>> proportionally size the drive, the system fails to boot (no blue screen)
>>> or we get a NTLDR (0xc000000e).
>>> If I don't do a proportional resize, the image loads fine.
>>> I don't know of a way to reimage without the Dell partition, outside of
>>> a complete rebuild, but I cannot expand to a larger disk.
>>> I have also tried doing a backup of the Windows partition (sda2) and
>>> force it to sda1 but I've had no luck with that.
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>       
>> 1. Do not choose "-k1", let Clonezilla clones the exact partition size 
>> for you. Make sure it can boot, then
>> 2. Use GParted live (http://gparted.sf.net) to enlarge the partition you 
>> want, and do not touch the hidden partition.
>>
>> Steven.
>>     
>>> Thanks.
>>> Steve
>>>
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Restoring Dell image to different/larger drive/partition

[Steve P. <Ste...@de...>]

Bill,

Not a problem. Windows boots fine when the Dell partition is removed. There was two issues at hand:

1. Restoring to larger disk proportionally with 1.2.4-28 would not allow the system to boot. No resize restore worked fine.
     (yes, Windows was looking at sda2 for booting in this image)
2. Remove Dell partition, save image with 1.2.4.-28. Restore process would break with multiple attempts. 
     - repeat process with earlier Clonezilla and restore process was fine.

To your point, I did try removing the Dell partition from within fdisk but did not change/edit the win.ini. My bad.

Thanks.

Steve


On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Bill Gurley wrote:

> Steve:
> 
> Forgive me if this is obvious, but it's not clear from the thread if you 
> are aware of this.
> 
> Windows XP has a file in the root directory of C: (it may be a hidden 
> file;  I can't remember) called boot.ini.  That file tells Windows which 
> partition that the XP installation is on.  If windows was booting from 
> the second partition in the original installation and you have now 
> removed the Dell utility partition, then maybe it is now needing to boot 
> from the first partition.  In this case you would need to edit the 
> boot.ini file accordingly.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Poe wrote:
>> Steven,
>> 
>> Thanks for your input.
>> 
>> I did remove the Dell partition while in Windows then confirmed in fdisk that it isn't there. However, I think the root cause is something
>> with the 1.2.4-28 version (maybe partclone) since when I restored it, I would receive a CRC stdin error. I restored the previous image copy
>> I had, saved the image with 1.2.3-37 then it was fine. I still have not tried to expand the newly revised image.
>> 
>> Through one of the FAQ documents, I remember how to resize the partition while booting/running Clonezilla, but I really want to use the
>> resize proportionally. 
>> 
>> A side, but maybe related, question on resizing: Do I need to have the use "'r'" for resize option enabled when using "-k1"?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Steve
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Steven Shiau wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2010/4/2 上午 01:12, Steve Poe wrote:
>>>> I am using Clonezilla 1.2.4-28 to clone a Dell E4300 Windows XP laptop.
>>>> I've noticed that there is a hidden partition (sda1 - FAT16) which
>>>> contains the Dell utility. Windows boots from sda2 and we have a data
>>>> directory on sda3.
>>>> The laptop comes with a 160GB. If I insert a 250GB drive and
>>>> proportionally size the drive, the system fails to boot (no blue screen)
>>>> or we get a NTLDR (0xc000000e).
>>>> If I don't do a proportional resize, the image loads fine.
>>>> I don't know of a way to reimage without the Dell partition, outside of
>>>> a complete rebuild, but I cannot expand to a larger disk.
>>>> I have also tried doing a backup of the Windows partition (sda2) and
>>>> force it to sda1 but I've had no luck with that.
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 1. Do not choose "-k1", let Clonezilla clones the exact partition size 
>>> for you. Make sure it can boot, then
>>> 2. Use GParted live (http://gparted.sf.net) to enlarge the partition you 
>>> want, and do not touch the hidden partition.
>>> 
>>> Steven.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Steve
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Restoring Dell image to different/larger drive/partition

[Bill G. <gu...@io...>]

Steve:

Forgive me if this is obvious, but it's not clear from the thread if you 
are aware of this.

Windows XP has a file in the root directory of C: (it may be a hidden 
file;  I can't remember) called boot.ini.  That file tells Windows which 
partition that the XP installation is on.  If windows was booting from 
the second partition in the original installation and you have now 
removed the Dell utility partition, then maybe it is now needing to boot 
from the first partition.  In this case you would need to edit the 
boot.ini file accordingly.



Steve Poe wrote:
> Steven,
> 
> Thanks for your input.
> 
> I did remove the Dell partition while in Windows then confirmed in fdisk that it isn't there. However, I think the root cause is something
> with the 1.2.4-28 version (maybe partclone) since when I restored it, I would receive a CRC stdin error. I restored the previous image copy
> I had, saved the image with 1.2.3-37 then it was fine. I still have not tried to expand the newly revised image.
> 
> Through one of the FAQ documents, I remember how to resize the partition while booting/running Clonezilla, but I really want to use the
> resize proportionally. 
> 
> A side, but maybe related, question on resizing: Do I need to have the use "'r'" for resize option enabled when using "-k1"?
> 
>  
> Thanks
> Steve
> 
> On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Steven Shiau wrote:
> 
>>
>> On 2010/4/2 上午 01:12, Steve Poe wrote:
>>> I am using Clonezilla 1.2.4-28 to clone a Dell E4300 Windows XP laptop.
>>> I've noticed that there is a hidden partition (sda1 - FAT16) which
>>> contains the Dell utility. Windows boots from sda2 and we have a data
>>> directory on sda3.
>>> The laptop comes with a 160GB. If I insert a 250GB drive and
>>> proportionally size the drive, the system fails to boot (no blue screen)
>>> or we get a NTLDR (0xc000000e).
>>> If I don't do a proportional resize, the image loads fine.
>>> I don't know of a way to reimage without the Dell partition, outside of
>>> a complete rebuild, but I cannot expand to a larger disk.
>>> I have also tried doing a backup of the Windows partition (sda2) and
>>> force it to sda1 but I've had no luck with that.
>>> Any thoughts?
>> 1. Do not choose "-k1", let Clonezilla clones the exact partition size 
>> for you. Make sure it can boot, then
>> 2. Use GParted live (http://gparted.sf.net) to enlarge the partition you 
>> want, and do not touch the hidden partition.
>>
>> Steven.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Steve
>>>
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Re: [Clonezilla-live] Restoring Dell image to different/larger drive/partition

[Steve P. <Ste...@de...>]

Steven,

Thanks for your input.

I did remove the Dell partition while in Windows then confirmed in fdisk that it isn't there. However, I think the root cause is something
with the 1.2.4-28 version (maybe partclone) since when I restored it, I would receive a CRC stdin error. I restored the previous image copy
I had, saved the image with 1.2.3-37 then it was fine. I still have not tried to expand the newly revised image.

Through one of the FAQ documents, I remember how to resize the partition while booting/running Clonezilla, but I really want to use the
resize proportionally. 

A side, but maybe related, question on resizing: Do I need to have the use "'r'" for resize option enabled when using "-k1"?

 
Thanks
Steve

On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Steven Shiau wrote:

> 
> 
> On 2010/4/2 上午 01:12, Steve Poe wrote:
>> I am using Clonezilla 1.2.4-28 to clone a Dell E4300 Windows XP laptop.
>> I've noticed that there is a hidden partition (sda1 - FAT16) which
>> contains the Dell utility. Windows boots from sda2 and we have a data
>> directory on sda3.
>> The laptop comes with a 160GB. If I insert a 250GB drive and
>> proportionally size the drive, the system fails to boot (no blue screen)
>> or we get a NTLDR (0xc000000e).
>> If I don't do a proportional resize, the image loads fine.
>> I don't know of a way to reimage without the Dell partition, outside of
>> a complete rebuild, but I cannot expand to a larger disk.
>> I have also tried doing a backup of the Windows partition (sda2) and
>> force it to sda1 but I've had no luck with that.
>> Any thoughts?
> 1. Do not choose "-k1", let Clonezilla clones the exact partition size 
> for you. Make sure it can boot, then
> 2. Use GParted live (http://gparted.sf.net) to enlarge the partition you 
> want, and do not touch the hidden partition.
> 
> Steven.
>> Thanks.
>> Steve
>> 
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