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Andrey Komarov - 2021-12-15

Want to know the reason for the dtlogin login error? My / var / dt / authdir folder is empty. And it should contain a folder with a file. See the photo:
P.S. I wrote that most likely there is no file

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Vào Th 2, 13 thg 12, 2021 lúc 4:30 SA, Andrey Komarovaak1978@users.sourceforge.net đã viết:
I couldn't run CDE 2.4.0 without your patch. CDE hangs after logging in on a blue screen. There were a lot of errors when compiling CDE, but CDE started up and works through startx. Perhaps dtlogin does not work due to compilation errors. In fact, the fact that I ran CDE 2.4.0a makes me very happy. thanks for the help

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Vào Th 2, 13 thg 12, 2021 lúc 4:00 SA, Roger Brownrhubarb-geek-nz@users.sourceforge.net đã viết:
Yes it is a mystery why the dtlogin from boot does not work. I have CDE 2.4.0 working on FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE on ARM64, I386 and AMD64, all happily with the dtlogin process as I have described using the dtlogin-init sequence. Yes typos in /etc/rc.conf can be disaster, hence why testing by logging in at the TTY console as root then manually running /usr/dt/bin/dtsession and using SSH to look at the log files is a good first step.

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- Roger Brown - 2021-12-15
  
  Remember dtlogin needs to run as root, I am not quite sure of your sequence where you said you logged in, and then ran dtlogin. The dtlogin-init should have run it as root.
  
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    dtlogin starts! Authentication fails
    
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    Vào Th 4, 15 thg 12, 2021 lúc 8:34 CH, Roger Brownrhubarb-geek-nz@users.sourceforge.net đã viết:
    Remember dtlogin needs to run as root, I am not quite sure of your sequence where you said you logged in, and then ran dtlogin. The dtlogin-init should have run it as root.
    
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      Those auth files look private to dtlogin going by the directory access rights
      
      root@freebsd:/var/dt # find /var/dt/au* | xargs ls -ld drwx------ 3 root wheel 3 Dec 1 04:02 /var/dt/authdir drwx------ 2 root wheel 3 Dec 15 15:50 /var/dt/authdir/authfiles -rw------- 1 root wheel 44 Dec 15 15:50 /var/dt/authdir/authfiles/A:0-bT5pvu
      
      If the problem is down to pamd authentication on FreeBSD it would take some investigation to reproduce the problem and confirm why it works for some and not for others. For instance the 2,3,2 version does not use pamd, so if dtlogin works on 2.3.2 but not on 2.4.0 we could say it is likely to be a pamd problem. Now what makes that interesting is I have the tagged 2.4.0 version with my patches running on arm32, arm64 and amd64 and the dtlogin works on all of those. So we need to find what are the conditions where it then fails to work. Now I have noticed a distinct behavour difference between entering the wrong password and using an account that has no password set up.
      
      As another example I had log in problems with NetBSD 2.4.0 until I also added a pamd operating system package. But I could not see an equivalent for FreeBSD.
      
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        I am installing CDE 2.4.0 on FreeBSD 13.0 RELEASE i386.
        
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        Vào Th 4, 15 thg 12, 2021 lúc 9:02 CH, Roger Brownrhubarb-geek-nz@users.sourceforge.net đã viết:
        Those auth files look private to dtlogin going by the directory access rights
        root@freebsd:/var/dt # find /var/dt/au* | xargs ls -ld
        drwx------ 3 root wheel 3 Dec 1 04:02 /var/dt/authdir
        drwx------ 2 root wheel 3 Dec 15 15:50 /var/dt/authdir/authfiles
        -rw------- 1 root wheel 44 Dec 15 15:50 /var/dt/authdir/authfiles/A:0-bT5pvu
        
        If the problem is down to pamd authentication on FreeBSD it would take some investigation to reproduce the problem and confirm why it works for some and not for others. For instance the 2,3,2 version does not use pamd, so if dtlogin works on 2.3.2 but not on 2.4.0 we could say it is likely to be a pamd problem. Now what makes that interesting is I have the tagged 2.4.0 version with my patches running on arm32, arm64 and amd64 and the dtlogin works on all of those. So we need to find what are the conditions where it then fails to work. Now I have noticed a distinct behavour difference between entering the wrong password and using an account that has no password set up.
        
        As another example I had log in problems with NetBSD 2.4.0 until I also added a pamd operating system package. But I could not see an equivalent for FreeBSD.
        
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        Roger Brown - 2021-12-15
        
        So it depends how important it is to get dtlogin working. It is very hard to offer assistance without hands on the machine. What I would like to suggest it that you replicate my working system by
        :
        1. starting with a brand new i386 virtual box
        2. install FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE i386 on that
        3. create new user with new password
        4. install my precompiled binaries
        5. follow my instructions
        
        Then we can talk about 100% the same thing, otherwise we are just talking about the problem and making guesses. .
        
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        Andrey Komarov - 2021-12-15
        
        I've tried this. I've been reinstalling FreeBSD and compiling CDE for several days now, trying different options. I have a Fujitsu Siemens P1610 laptop with 1GB of RAM and a 60GB hard drive.
        
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        Vào Th 5, 16 thg 12, 2021 lúc 3:31 SA, Roger Brownrhubarb-geek-nz@users.sourceforge.net đã viết:
        So it depends how important it is to get dtlogin working. It is very hard to offer assistance without hands on the machine. What I would like to suggest it that you replicate my working system by
        :
        1. starting with a brand new i386 virtual box
        2. install FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE i386 on that
        3. create new user with new password
        4. install my [precompiled binaries(https://sourceforge.net/projects/rhubarb-pi/files/FreeBSD/13.0-RELEASE/i386/)
        5. follow my instructions
        
        Then we can talk about 100% the same thing, otherwise we are just talking about the problem and making guesses. .
        
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        Roger Brown - 2021-12-15
        
        Have you tried my precompiled binaries which are known to work in some environments? If they work it indicates a problem with your build environment, if they don't work it indicates a problem with your machine configuration.
        
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        Andrey Komarov - 2021-12-15
        
        What does the configuration of the computer have to do with it? CDE 2.4.0 runs through startx and works. dtlogin is up and running. Error in user authentication in dtlogin. FreeBSD is authenticated.
        
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        Vào Th 5, 16 thg 12, 2021 lúc 4:43 SA, Roger Brownrhubarb-geek-nz@users.sourceforge.net đã viết:
        Have you tried my precompiled binaries which are known to work in some environments? If they work it indicates a problem with your build environment, if they don't work it indicates a problem with your machine configuration.
        
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        Roger Brown - 2021-12-15
        
        By configuration of the computer I mean some component or configuration that is preventing dtlogin performing the authentication, it could be a line in a config file, a missing shared library, a package that has not been installed.
        
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        Andrey Komarov - 2021-12-15
        
        I ran different DEs on this laptop (mate, xfce4, gnome3, lumina, lxde lxqt), installed various login managers (sddm, slim, gdm), installed CDE 2.3.X. Installed FreeBSD 5.x, 6.x, 7.x, 8.x, 11.x, 12.x 13.x. There have never been any problems with the configuration of the computer. Install FreeBSD 13.0 and CDE 2.4.0 there were problems with the configuration of the computer. How strange it is...
        
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        Vào Th 5, 16 thg 12, 2021 lúc 4:43 SA, Roger Brownrhubarb-geek-nz@users.sourceforge.net đã viết:
        Have you tried my precompiled binaries which are known to work in some environments? If they work it indicates a problem with your build environment, if they don't work it indicates a problem with your machine configuration.
        
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        Roger Brown - 2021-12-15
        
        Yes, but you have a system where dtlogin does not work, and I have many systems where it does work. I am trying to reduce the things that are different to identify the thing that is causing the problem. And one of the things that is different is your build of CDE is different to everybody elses build. So my suggestion was if you use exactly the same binary package as one that works we have reduced the search area for looking for things that are different and preventing it working.
        
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        Roger Brown - 2021-12-15
        
        In /etc/pam.d/README
        
        If no configuration file is found for a particular service, the /etc/pam.d/other is used instead.
        
        My /etc/pam.d/other
        
        # # $FreeBSD$ # # PAM configuration for the "other" service # # auth auth sufficient pam_opie.so no_warn no_fake_prompts auth requisite pam_opieaccess.so no_warn allow_local #auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass #auth sufficient pam_ssh.so no_warn try_first_pass auth required pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass # account account required pam_nologin.so #account required pam_krb5.so account required pam_login_access.so account required pam_unix.so # session #session optional pam_ssh.so want_agent session required pam_permit.so # password password required pam_permit.so
        
        And the modules
        
        root@freebsd:/etc/pam.d # ls -ld /usr/lib/pam*.so lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_chroot.so -> pam_chroot.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_deny.so -> pam_deny.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_echo.so -> pam_echo.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_exec.so -> pam_exec.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_ftpusers.so -> pam_ftpusers.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_group.so -> pam_group.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_guest.so -> pam_guest.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_krb5.so -> pam_krb5.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_ksu.so -> pam_ksu.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_lastlog.so -> pam_lastlog.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_login_access.so -> pam_login_access.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_nologin.so -> pam_nologin.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_opie.so -> pam_opie.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_opieaccess.so -> pam_opieaccess.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_passwdqc.so -> pam_passwdqc.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_permit.so -> pam_permit.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_radius.so -> pam_radius.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_rhosts.so -> pam_rhosts.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_rootok.so -> pam_rootok.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_securetty.so -> pam_securetty.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_self.so -> pam_self.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_ssh.so -> pam_ssh.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_tacplus.so -> pam_tacplus.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Apr 9 2021 /usr/lib/pam_unix.so -> pam_unix.so.6
        
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        Andrey Komarov - 2021-12-16
        
        I need a work laptop. I will not test your patches for months. For questions about compiling CDE 2.4.0, write to the FreeBSD committers. They will give you details on why CDE 2.4.0 cannot be installed on FreeBSD i386.
        
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        Have you tried my precompiled binaries which are known to work in some environments? If they work it indicates a problem with your build environment, if they don't work it indicates a problem with your machine configuration.
        
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        Roger Brown - 2021-12-16
        
        Do you have /etc/pam.d/dtlogin and /etc/pam.d/dtsession ? I don't have those files and it works. You may have those files as a result of make install.
        
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        Andrey Komarov - 2021-12-17
        
        Now I understand why I get an error when logging into dtlogin. On each computer (laptop) CDE is compiled differently and there is no guarantee that CDE will start.
        
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        Have you tried my precompiled binaries which are known to work in some environments? If they work it indicates a problem with your build environment, if they don't work it indicates a problem with your machine configuration.
        
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        Andrey Komarov - 2021-12-17
        
        $FreeBSD$
        
        PAM configuration for the "passwd" service
        
        passwd(1) does not use the auth, account or session services.
        
        password
        
        password requisite pam_passwdqc.so enforce=users
        
        password required pamunix.so nowarn try_first_pass nullok
        
        Of course there will be an error during authorization
        
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        Have you tried my precompiled binaries which are known to work in some environments? If they work it indicates a problem with your build environment, if they don't work it indicates a problem with your machine configuration.
        
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        Roger Brown - 2021-12-17
        
        https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/tickets/124/
        
        Can you validate my findings?
        
        Have you tried deleting the /usr/local/etc/pam.d/dtlogin and dtsession ?
        
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Roger Brown - 2021-12-12

This is one of the reasons why I am a fan of known working compiled binary packages which people can use directly. Where the packages have been tested and when people say something isnt working we can talk about exactly the same thing. Unfortunately with end-user built software everybodies own build is unique, we don't know what was included in your build, what special options you used to control the build, what files failed to compile, what dependencies were missed etc. So if I can point to an exact RPM, TGZ, PKG or DEB that can be downloaded and say does that work then we can talk about the same thing because we are using exactly the same binary package.

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Андрей - 2021-12-18

/usr/local/etc/pam.d/dtlogin and dtsession removed. The authorization was successful.

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marcel alexandre - 2023-04-25

I'm virtualizing the latest version of freebsd 13.2 RELEASE with qemu/kvm and virt-manager. Yesterday I installed the CDE desktop environment and followed the installation recommendations by editing the configuration files. The mouse works and the pointer moves but the button doesn't click, any suggestions?

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- Cy Schubert - 2023-04-25
  
  To narrow down the problem, can you try with motif (mwm)?
  
  I run (and maintain) CDE on FreeBSD on a FreeBSD 14-CURRENT
  laptop. I also use CDE in a FreeBSD 13.2 VirtualBox VM at $JOB.
  
  We need to establish whether this is a CDE problem or something deeper
  within FreeBSD's implementation of xorg. You can do this by,
  
  Create .xinitrc containing the line:
  exec /usr/local/bin/mwm
  
  Log into a console, not CDE dtlogin, xdm, gdm or any other login
  manager. (Not that this is the cause but the approach we will use will
  reduce the work required to run this test.)
  
  At the console $ prompt type in, startx.
  
  Open up a terminal and do some things. You can terminate your
  session anytime by selecting exit or quit in the mwm menu.
  
  If the problem persists when using startx, the problem is not CDE but
  something deeper: could be xorg, kernel or a kvm driver.
  
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    Suggest you go to https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/. We can track it there.
    
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PAM configuration for the "passwd" service

passwd(1) does not use the auth, account or session services.

password

password requisite pam_passwdqc.so enforce=users

password required pamunix.so nowarn try_first_pass nullok

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PAM configuration for the "passwd" service

passwd(1) does not use the auth, account or session services.

password

password requisite pam_passwdqc.so enforce=users

password required pamunix.so nowarn try_first_pass nullok