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From: Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...> - 2006-03-13 17:23:43
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> Correction - it's not a commercial product - it is open source. However, > it's main developers belong to a commercial company that has just been > bought by Oracle. Yep - the same people that now own InnoDB. http://www.oracle.com/sleepycat/index.html "Oracle has expanded its embedded database offerings through the acquisition of Sleepycat Software, Inc., a privately held supplier of open source database software for developers of embedded applications. Berkeley DB is a leader in data management for embedded "edge" applications and complements other Oracle embedded products including Oracle TimesTen In-Memory Database and Oracle Database Lite Edition. Together, Oracle and Sleepycat plan to continue to develop, support, and sell the entire family of Berkeley DB products, including Sleepycat's XML and Java Editions. Oracle has no plans to change the dual license, and we will continue to serve both open source and commercial users. All contacts, phone numbers, and email addresses for Sleepycat sales and customer support, remain the same. This site will help you learn more about this acquisition and what it will mean to our customers. If you don't find your questions here, please send them to {HYPERLINK "mailto:con...@or..."}con...@or...." (My bold) How trusting is everyone? Brian Brian > > Jon Maber wrote: > > > > >> Berkeley XML DB? > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> > > I can't find any mention of collations in the documentation I could > > find on their web site. It supports XML Query which implies support > > for collations but doesn't necessarily mean the indexing is adaptable > > to anything but the default collation. It's also a commercial product > > owned now by Oracle. > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > > webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > > territory! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Bodington-developers mailing list > > Bod...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-03-13 16:58:33
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Correction - it's not a commercial product - it is open source. However, it's main developers belong to a commercial company that has just been bought by Oracle. Jon Maber wrote: > >> Berkeley XML DB? >> >> Brian >> >> > I can't find any mention of collations in the documentation I could > find on their web site. It supports XML Query which implies support > for collations but doesn't necessarily mean the indexing is adaptable > to anything but the default collation. It's also a commercial product > owned now by Oracle. > > Jon > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-03-13 16:53:48
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>Berkeley XML DB? > >Brian > > I can't find any mention of collations in the documentation I could find on their web site. It supports XML Query which implies support for collations but doesn't necessarily mean the indexing is adaptable to anything but the default collation. It's also a commercial product owned now by Oracle. Jon |
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From: Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...> - 2006-03-13 16:29:30
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> > Peter Crowther wrote: > > >>Before taking this radical approach it would be important to > >>determine > >>that the replacement would be equally capable. (E.g. capable > >>of handling > >>accent insensitive searching which is vital for searching non-english > >>text by users who aren't sure how to type accented characters > >>into the > >>search tool or for searching text which may have optional accents or > >>incorrect orthography, not to say Japanese text which may have been > >>entered in either of two phonetic systems.) > >> > >> > > > >I *think* http://exist.sourceforge.net/xquery.html#N10474 says eXist, at > >least, can do this natively. > > > > > I think it's saying that the built in query engine can process the right > kind of query but I've found an unresolved bug report from earlier this > month on the Saxon SourceForge project that shows that it doesn't work > [bug1444006]. It's also not clear to me that the indexing in eXist can > be configured to support such queries - the documentation on creating > indices makes no mention of collations at all. So I'm suspicious that > this kind of query could be very slow - also searching for text with > multiple key words won't be helped at all since eXist supports these via > extention syntax to XML Query which doesn't provide the option to > specify the collation or match strength like the standard XML Query text > matching functions. This is all based on a very quick trawl through the > eXist web site so I might be wrong. > > I think Bodington XML repository is still a nose ahead of the > competition Berkeley XML DB? Brian and won't be put out to pasture just yet. ;-) > > Jon > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-03-13 16:24:50
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Peter Crowther wrote: >>Before taking this radical approach it would be important to >>determine >>that the replacement would be equally capable. (E.g. capable >>of handling >>accent insensitive searching which is vital for searching non-english >>text by users who aren't sure how to type accented characters >>into the >>search tool or for searching text which may have optional accents or >>incorrect orthography, not to say Japanese text which may have been >>entered in either of two phonetic systems.) >> >> > >I *think* http://exist.sourceforge.net/xquery.html#N10474 says eXist, at >least, can do this natively. > > I think it's saying that the built in query engine can process the right kind of query but I've found an unresolved bug report from earlier this month on the Saxon SourceForge project that shows that it doesn't work [bug1444006]. It's also not clear to me that the indexing in eXist can be configured to support such queries - the documentation on creating indices makes no mention of collations at all. So I'm suspicious that this kind of query could be very slow - also searching for text with multiple key words won't be helped at all since eXist supports these via extention syntax to XML Query which doesn't provide the option to specify the collation or match strength like the standard XML Query text matching functions. This is all based on a very quick trawl through the eXist web site so I might be wrong. I think Bodington XML repository is still a nose ahead of the competition and won't be put out to pasture just yet. ;-) Jon |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-03-13 15:40:58
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In answer to my own question, Xindice doesn't seem to support full-text indices and would not be suitable as a replacement to the Bodington XML Repository. Information at xml.apache.org and exist-db.org Jon |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-03-13 15:40:22
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> From: Jon Maber > >3. Bite the bullet, throw away the homebrew XML repository and use > >somebody else's work. My candidate would be eXist, which has much of > >this functionality already built in to XQuery. > > > > - Peter > > =20 > > > Or Apache Xindice? I'm not familiar with the product but one=20 > would hope=20 > that it has as much support behind it as the other Apache XML tools.=20 eXist has considerably more functionality, as it has XQuery as a query language rather than XPath. I have no idea of the relative performance of the two, however. > Before taking this radical approach it would be important to=20 > determine=20 > that the replacement would be equally capable. (E.g. capable=20 > of handling=20 > accent insensitive searching which is vital for searching non-english=20 > text by users who aren't sure how to type accented characters=20 > into the=20 > search tool or for searching text which may have optional accents or=20 > incorrect orthography, not to say Japanese text which may have been=20 > entered in either of two phonetic systems.) I *think* http://exist.sourceforge.net/xquery.html#N10474 says eXist, at least, can do this natively. > It will be sad to see the XML repository go - I'm very proud of the=20 > concept of translating an object oriented XML search=20 > specification into a single SQL query. Yep. I was/am proud of my Prolog setof() converter, that converted logic programming clauses into a single SQL query; but it became redundant with optimised tuple stores. > I'd be interested to see performance=20 > comparisons between my XML to SQL translator and a pure XML database=20 > like Xindice. Indeed. I suspect the greater optimisation allowed by good selection of the on-disk storage structures will mean that the XML databases have decent performance; but I'm not 100% convinced, and a benchmark would be interesting. - Peter |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-03-13 14:33:49
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Peter Crowther wrote:
>>From: Colin Tatham
>>I think there are two possible approaches:
>>
>>1. Use regular expressions to find possible matches of the
>>search term
>>in the identical_table Hashtable keys, or
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>>2. Execute an SQL query with wildcards on the table that contains the
>>tokens.
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>3. Bite the bullet, throw away the homebrew XML repository and use
>somebody else's work. My candidate would be eXist, which has much of
>this functionality already built in to XQuery.
>
> - Peter
>
>
Or Apache Xindice? I'm not familiar with the product but one would hope
that it has as much support behind it as the other Apache XML tools.
Before taking this radical approach it would be important to determine
that the replacement would be equally capable. (E.g. capable of handling
accent insensitive searching which is vital for searching non-english
text by users who aren't sure how to type accented characters into the
search tool or for searching text which may have optional accents or
incorrect orthography, not to say Japanese text which may have been
entered in either of two phonetic systems.)
Sticking with the Bodington XML query tool I'd say there is another
option to your two: add a 'loose match' word matching field to tertiary,
secondary, primary and exact. However, I don't think that would be the
prefered option - I'd go for your option 2. So a search for 'open' AND
'source' would trigger an initial SQL query whose results would be used
to create an altered query like ('open' OR 'opening') AND ('source' OR
'sources') before being executed.
It will be sad to see the XML repository go - I'm very proud of the
concept of translating an object oriented XML search specification into
a single SQL query. It works very well with databases that can highly
optimise the resultant query. Of course it's becoming redundant as a
number of pure XML database products become available that are well
optimised to XPath type searches. I'd be interested to see performance
comparisons between my XML to SQL translator and a pure XML database
like Xindice.
Jon
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-03-13 14:12:28
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Peter Crowther wrote: >>From: Colin Tatham >>I think there are two possible approaches: >> >>1. Use regular expressions to find possible matches of the >>search term >>in the identical_table Hashtable keys, or >> >>2. Execute an SQL query with wildcards on the table that contains the >>tokens. > > > 3. Bite the bullet, throw away the homebrew XML repository and use > somebody else's work. My candidate would be eXist, which has much of > this functionality already built in to XQuery. :-) Yes, we have discussed that option, which I really like. It would make sense to store XML metadata in an XML database! Don't think we're about to do that yet tho.. -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-03-13 13:58:47
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> From: Colin Tatham > I think there are two possible approaches: >=20 > 1. Use regular expressions to find possible matches of the=20 > search term=20 > in the identical_table Hashtable keys, or >=20 > 2. Execute an SQL query with wildcards on the table that contains the=20 > tokens. 3. Bite the bullet, throw away the homebrew XML repository and use somebody else's work. My candidate would be eXist, which has much of this functionality already built in to XQuery. - Peter |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-03-13 13:52:35
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Some general ramblings relating to the XML metadata and the search tool, in the hope of getting some discussion/consensus about a solution: (What's the problem? A search for 'heading' will only return resources that contain 'heading', and not any containing 'headings' or 'head'.) - All text entered in Bod as a title or description is tokenised, each token saved to the database (xml_tokens) and in WordRepository. - WordRepository creates CollationKey/s for each token, and stores these in four Hashtables ( for primary, secondary tertiary and identical matching purposes.) - When searching, a CollationKey is created from the search term, and this is compared to the existing CollationKeys. If there's a match, an SQL query is formulated which retrieves the IDs of all the resources which contain the term, and those resources are presented in the search results. Because the actual matching is carried out using CollationKeys, it's not possible to modify some SQL to broaden the matching. All the tokens in the database are also held in WordRepository (in the identical_table Hashtable, or as Word instances in a Vector). I think there are two possible approaches: 1. Use regular expressions to find possible matches of the search term in the identical_table Hashtable keys, or 2. Execute an SQL query with wildcards on the table that contains the tokens. Another decision is how this behaviour is presented to the user, do we automatically do a wildcard search when they use the default (Primary) option? Offer another option they can choose that automatically adds a wildcard (and possibly shorten the search term before adding the wildcard)? Allow users to enter wildcards, and only use them if they are present in the search term? Any opinions? Thanks, Colin -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-03-09 13:54:53
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Andrew Booth wrote: > Me too please. OK, added. Colin > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin > Tatham > Sent: 09 March 2006 13:06 > To: bod...@li... > Cc: 'Peter Crowther' > Subject: [Bodington-developers] Re: SF Trackers (was: bod logbooks (SPWS) & > IMS CP) > > Adam Marshall wrote: > >>Peter >> >>From SF bugs tracker: >> >>1154313 Ugly error message in logbook * 2005-03-01 07:52 >> >>1153618 random list of usernames in logbook 'add visitor' list * >>2005-02-28 08:46 > > > I've added permissions for Peter (and Adam) to edit tracker items. > > The list of developers with Tracker permissions are now: > > adam marshall ( lardo_de_arnaud ) > Peter Crowther ( ozzard ) > A Corfield ( antonyskye ) > asuleman ( asuleman ) > Colin Tatham ( colin_tatham ) > Matthew Buckett ( thick_sliced ) > Alexis O'Connor ( lxsocon ) > Alistair Young UHI ( alistairskye ) > > Let me know if anyone else needs to edit tracker items. > > If you are editing/closing items, please add proper comments that make > sense to the rest of us! > > If you want to be notified when any tracker item changes, you can > subscribe to the tracker mailing list: > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-trackers > > Colin -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2006-03-09 13:27:20
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Adam Me too please. Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham Sent: 09 March 2006 13:06 To: bod...@li... Cc: 'Peter Crowther' Subject: [Bodington-developers] Re: SF Trackers (was: bod logbooks (SPWS) & IMS CP) Adam Marshall wrote: > Peter > > From SF bugs tracker: > > 1154313 Ugly error message in logbook * 2005-03-01 07:52 > > 1153618 random list of usernames in logbook 'add visitor' list * > 2005-02-28 08:46 I've added permissions for Peter (and Adam) to edit tracker items. The list of developers with Tracker permissions are now: adam marshall ( lardo_de_arnaud ) Peter Crowther ( ozzard ) A Corfield ( antonyskye ) asuleman ( asuleman ) Colin Tatham ( colin_tatham ) Matthew Buckett ( thick_sliced ) Alexis O'Connor ( lxsocon ) Alistair Young UHI ( alistairskye ) Let me know if anyone else needs to edit tracker items. If you are editing/closing items, please add proper comments that make sense to the rest of us! If you want to be notified when any tracker item changes, you can subscribe to the tracker mailing list: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-trackers Colin -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-03-09 13:06:41
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Adam Marshall wrote: > Peter > > From SF bugs tracker: > > 1154313 Ugly error message in logbook * 2005-03-01 07:52 > > 1153618 random list of usernames in logbook 'add visitor' list * > 2005-02-28 08:46 I've added permissions for Peter (and Adam) to edit tracker items. The list of developers with Tracker permissions are now: adam marshall ( lardo_de_arnaud ) Peter Crowther ( ozzard ) A Corfield ( antonyskye ) asuleman ( asuleman ) Colin Tatham ( colin_tatham ) Matthew Buckett ( thick_sliced ) Alexis O'Connor ( lxsocon ) Alistair Young UHI ( alistairskye ) Let me know if anyone else needs to edit tracker items. If you are editing/closing items, please add proper comments that make sense to the rest of us! If you want to be notified when any tracker item changes, you can subscribe to the tracker mailing list: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-trackers Colin -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2006-03-09 11:40:24
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Relax, all sorted and Al with blissful smile thanks. Yep, somebody/thing tried to run setup - as this is just dev site we hadn't changed index.html to redirect to /site Cheers, Antony On 9 Mar 2006, at 10:05, Jon Maber wrote: > Matthew Buckett wrote: > >> Matthew Buckett wrote: >> >>> Alistair Young wrote: >>> >>>> the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: >>>> >>>> The system is being setup and cannot be started yet >>> >>> >>> I think this maybe that the setup property in the Bodington >>> properties file isn't set to the correct thing. I'll have a look. >> >> >> BuildingContextListener.java is the file generating the message. I >> think this is because someone has started running setupservlet and >> not finished. >> >> If you have a good Bodington properties file set: >> >> setup.status=post-setup >> >> At the moment I am guessing you have it set to early-setup which is >> causing the message. >> > Therefore - did you accidentally go into the setup servlet before the > last shut down? (Could be a serious bug - shouldn't setup servlet warn > you that the system IS set up and exit?) I guess it's safe to just > edit the setup.status property and restart. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-03-09 10:11:06
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> From: Alistair Young > The system is being setup and cannot be started yet That usually indicates an incompletely set up system, as others have pointed out. Changing or removing the password file for the setup servlet will prevent this happening by accident in the future - and I also keep a 'known good' copy of bodington.properties that I can copy back should the live one get mangled. - Peter |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-03-09 10:09:00
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> id you accidentally go into the setup servlet before the last shut > down? someone must have then > (Could be a serious bug wot - another one? ;) On 9 Mar 2006, at 10:05, Jon Maber wrote: > Matthew Buckett wrote: > >> Matthew Buckett wrote: >> >>> Alistair Young wrote: >>> >>>> the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: >>>> >>>> The system is being setup and cannot be started yet >>> >>> >>> I think this maybe that the setup property in the Bodington >>> properties file isn't set to the correct thing. I'll have a look. >> >> >> BuildingContextListener.java is the file generating the message. I >> think this is because someone has started running setupservlet and >> not finished. >> >> If you have a good Bodington properties file set: >> >> setup.status=post-setup >> >> At the moment I am guessing you have it set to early-setup which >> is causing the message. >> > Therefore - did you accidentally go into the setup servlet before > the last shut down? (Could be a serious bug - shouldn't setup > servlet warn you that the system IS set up and exit?) I guess it's > safe to just edit the setup.status property and restart. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-03-09 10:07:24
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yep ,early-setup Matthew - I'll change it but the fc has disappeared - might be too late though :) I'll add a pint to the list of things the fc must do! On 9 Mar 2006, at 09:59, Matthew Buckett wrote: > Matthew Buckett wrote: >> Alistair Young wrote: >>> the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: >>> >>> The system is being setup and cannot be started yet >> I think this maybe that the setup property in the Bodington >> properties file isn't set to the correct thing. I'll have a look. > > BuildingContextListener.java is the file generating the message. I > think this is because someone has started running setupservlet and > not finished. > > If you have a good Bodington properties file set: > > setup.status=post-setup > > At the moment I am guessing you have it set to early-setup which is > causing the message. > > -- > -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer > -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services > -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-03-09 10:06:24
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several times while swigging a bottle of prozac! On 9 Mar 2006, at 10:00, Adam Marshall wrote: > Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again? > > adam > > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bodington- > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young > | Sent: 09 March 2006 09:55 > | To: bod...@li... > | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] panic! > | > | it was running yesterday! today it isn't > | > | > Dave... ...I really think you should take a stress pill, sit down > | > and think things ove > | what, another one? I've none left! > | > | have a nice weekend Jon but you don't get a pint unfortunately! > | > | Alistair > | > | On 9 Mar 2006, at 09:50, Jon Maber wrote: > | > | > Alistair Young wrote: > | > > | >> the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: > | >> > | >> The system is being setup and cannot be started yet > | >> > | >> anyone know what this means? the fc will buy anyone who answers a > | >> pint! > | >> > | >> Alistair > | > > | > I'm just about to set off on a weekend break so I don't think I'm > | > going to help much but could you detail the problem a bit more? > Are > | > you trying to do a fresh installation and it's failing? If so it > | > might be an idea to wipe the web application, delete and recreate > | > the database and then redeploy. > | > > | > Good luck. > | > > | > P.S. > | > > | > HAL: Dave... ...I really think you should take a stress pill, sit > | > down and think things over... ....Daisy, Daisy, give me your > | > answer, do... ....I'm half crazy.... > | > > | > > | > > | > ------------------------------------------------------- > | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > | > language > | > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > | > live webcast > | > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > | > territory! > | > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > | > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > | > _______________________________________________ > | > Bodington-developers mailing list > | > Bod...@li... > | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------- > | This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > | language > | that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > | webcast > | and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > | territory! > | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > | _______________________________________________ > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | Bod...@li... > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-03-09 10:06:09
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Matthew Buckett wrote: > Matthew Buckett wrote: > >> Alistair Young wrote: >> >>> the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: >>> >>> The system is being setup and cannot be started yet >> >> >> I think this maybe that the setup property in the Bodington >> properties file isn't set to the correct thing. I'll have a look. > > > BuildingContextListener.java is the file generating the message. I > think this is because someone has started running setupservlet and not > finished. > > If you have a good Bodington properties file set: > > setup.status=post-setup > > At the moment I am guessing you have it set to early-setup which is > causing the message. > Therefore - did you accidentally go into the setup servlet before the last shut down? (Could be a serious bug - shouldn't setup servlet warn you that the system IS set up and exit?) I guess it's safe to just edit the setup.status property and restart. |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-03-09 10:00:57
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Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again? adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young | Sent: 09 March 2006 09:55 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] panic! | | it was running yesterday! today it isn't | | > Dave... ...I really think you should take a stress pill, sit down | > and think things ove | what, another one? I've none left! | | have a nice weekend Jon but you don't get a pint unfortunately! | | Alistair | | On 9 Mar 2006, at 09:50, Jon Maber wrote: | | > Alistair Young wrote: | > | >> the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: | >> | >> The system is being setup and cannot be started yet | >> | >> anyone know what this means? the fc will buy anyone who answers a | >> pint! | >> | >> Alistair | > | > I'm just about to set off on a weekend break so I don't think I'm | > going to help much but could you detail the problem a bit more? Are | > you trying to do a fresh installation and it's failing? If so it | > might be an idea to wipe the web application, delete and recreate | > the database and then redeploy. | > | > Good luck. | > | > P.S. | > | > HAL: Dave... ...I really think you should take a stress pill, sit | > down and think things over... ....Daisy, Daisy, give me your | > answer, do... ....I'm half crazy.... | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting | > language | > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the | > live webcast | > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding | > territory! | > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? | > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting | language | that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live | webcast | and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding | territory! | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2006-03-09 09:59:46
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Matthew Buckett wrote: > Alistair Young wrote: >> the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: >> >> The system is being setup and cannot be started yet > > I think this maybe that the setup property in the Bodington properties > file isn't set to the correct thing. I'll have a look. BuildingContextListener.java is the file generating the message. I think this is because someone has started running setupservlet and not finished. If you have a good Bodington properties file set: setup.status=post-setup At the moment I am guessing you have it set to early-setup which is causing the message. -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-03-09 09:58:54
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Matthew Buckett wrote: > Alistair Young wrote: > >> the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: >> >> The system is being setup and cannot be started yet > > > I think this maybe that the setup property in the Bodington properties > file isn't set to the correct thing. I'll have a look. Normally happens to me if I start running setup servlet and something goes wrong. Restarting the webapp and going through setup servlet again should sort it (or edit the property in bod.properties, as Matthew suggests.) Seems to get into a state where it can't continue because BuildingServer has started, but you can't run setup servlet again because you closed the browser... >> anyone know what this means? the fc will buy anyone who answers a pint! > > -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-03-09 09:55:03
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it was running yesterday! today it isn't > Dave... ...I really think you should take a stress pill, sit down > and think things ove what, another one? I've none left! have a nice weekend Jon but you don't get a pint unfortunately! Alistair On 9 Mar 2006, at 09:50, Jon Maber wrote: > Alistair Young wrote: > >> the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: >> >> The system is being setup and cannot be started yet >> >> anyone know what this means? the fc will buy anyone who answers a >> pint! >> >> Alistair > > I'm just about to set off on a weekend break so I don't think I'm > going to help much but could you detail the problem a bit more? Are > you trying to do a fresh installation and it's failing? If so it > might be an idea to wipe the web application, delete and recreate > the database and then redeploy. > > Good luck. > > P.S. > > HAL: Dave... ...I really think you should take a stress pill, sit > down and think things over... ....Daisy, Daisy, give me your > answer, do... ....I'm half crazy.... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-03-09 09:50:40
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Alistair Young wrote: > the fc is about to demo but bod ain't running: > > The system is being setup and cannot be started yet > > anyone know what this means? the fc will buy anyone who answers a pint! > > Alistair I'm just about to set off on a weekend break so I don't think I'm going to help much but could you detail the problem a bit more? Are you trying to do a fresh installation and it's failing? If so it might be an idea to wipe the web application, delete and recreate the database and then redeploy. Good luck. P.S. HAL: Dave... ...I really think you should take a stress pill, sit down and think things over... ....Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do... ....I'm half crazy.... |
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