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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2007-01-30 12:01:05
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Selwyn Count me in please. Regards Aggie ____________________________________________ Andrew G Booth Professor of Online Learning Institute of Life Sciences Education Faculty of Biological Sciences Garstang Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT U.K. Tel: +44-113-343-3142=20 ____________________________________________ No Education Patents Boycott Blackboard http://www.noedupatents.org/ ____________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: tet...@li... [mailto:tet...@li...] On Behalf Of Selwyn Lloyd Sent: 30 January 2007 11:27 To: Bodington developers Cc: TetraELF Developers Subject: [Tetraelf-developers] GCWS working group we are looking for Tetra, Bod and Sakai input into the early prototype=20 of a Group Calendaring Web Service... would anybody like to be on a=20 working group list there will be a blog etc and if there are no objections we will post a=20 digest / news update to this list after each phase... so the first phase is gathering requirements based on prototype and we=20 are looking for people from bod / sakai / tetra the prototype will be web based with a method for recording feedback=20 included it would be nice if we could bootstrap a session to any event we all=20 happen to be at, but happy for web based or other cheers Sel --=20 Selwyn Lloyd Phosphorix=20 Open Source Systems for Lifelong Learning skype: selwyn_lloyd tel: 07979240124 irc://irc.ionode.org support channel: #ionode support email: de...@ph... web: http://www.phosphorix.co.uk=20 forum: http://forum.ionetwork.ac.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share = your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Tetraelf-developers mailing list Tet...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tetraelf-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2007-01-30 11:59:08
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yes please Selwyn - can you add me? Alistair -------------- mov eax,1 mov ebx,0 int 80h On 30 Jan 2007, at 11:26, Selwyn Lloyd wrote: > we are looking for Tetra, Bod and Sakai input into the early prototype > of a Group Calendaring Web Service... would anybody like to be on a > working group list > there will be a blog etc and if there are no objections we will post a > digest / news update to this list after each phase... > > so the first phase is gathering requirements based on prototype and we > are looking for people from bod / sakai / tetra > > the prototype will be web based with a method for recording feedback > included > > it would be nice if we could bootstrap a session to any event we all > happen to be at, but happy for web based or other > > cheers > > Sel > > -- > Selwyn Lloyd > Phosphorix > Open Source Systems for Lifelong Learning > skype: selwyn_lloyd > tel: 07979240124 > irc://irc.ionode.org > support channel: #ionode > support email: de...@ph... > web: http://www.phosphorix.co.uk > forum: http://forum.ionetwork.ac.uk > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php? > page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Tetraelf-developers mailing list > Tet...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tetraelf-developers |
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From: Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...> - 2007-01-30 11:29:14
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we are looking for Tetra, Bod and Sakai input into the early prototype of a Group Calendaring Web Service... would anybody like to be on a working group list there will be a blog etc and if there are no objections we will post a digest / news update to this list after each phase... so the first phase is gathering requirements based on prototype and we are looking for people from bod / sakai / tetra the prototype will be web based with a method for recording feedback included it would be nice if we could bootstrap a session to any event we all happen to be at, but happy for web based or other cheers Sel -- Selwyn Lloyd Phosphorix Open Source Systems for Lifelong Learning skype: selwyn_lloyd tel: 07979240124 irc://irc.ionode.org support channel: #ionode support email: de...@ph... web: http://www.phosphorix.co.uk forum: http://forum.ionetwork.ac.uk |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2007-01-26 11:19:55
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Just revisiting this as we still have the problem of 2 methods for > setting colour in UI - one using style.css and the other using Bod > code. Yeah. It makes the whole set of options in Bodington relating to setting display preferences broken as only parts of the interface change. when users change these settings. > Jon what was the conclusion from this debate and your coding? Do we > have something that can be worked in to the bodington code without too > much effort (or may be have already)? Would this fit with (Matthew's?) > re-factoring of facility css? All the refactoring did was move the code from facility into another class so that Facility was 3000 lines smaller. The CSS generation code itself is still just the same. -- Matthew Buckett |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2007-01-26 10:59:15
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Just revisiting this as we still have the problem of 2 methods for setting colour in UI - one using style.css and the other using Bod code. Jon what was the conclusion from this debate and your coding? Do we have something that can be worked in to the bodington code without too much effort (or may be have already)? Would this fit with (Matthew's?) re-factoring of facility css? Antony On 7 Apr 2006, at 14:29, Jon Maber wrote: > Owen, > > the model you suggest _is_ much better than the usual HSV because, as > you say, it solves one of my big gripes, but the difference with that > and my model is the scaling of the saturation value. In my model a > color with a non-zero saturation and non-zero brightness which is > adjusted to zero brightness retains it's (relative) saturation value > and if the brightness is later transformed to a greater than zero > value the saturation is preserved (as is the hue.) The key thing > about my model (which perhaps you'd call Hue, percentage > Saturation[percentage in the sense of relative to the maximum possible > saturation possible for the given intensity and hue], Intensity) is > that any single value can be slid from 0 to 100% (or 0 to 360 degrees) > without changing the valid ranges of the other two values whereas in > the HSI (double conical model) the range of allowed saturation values > depends on the intensity and so saturation has to be clipped. > > The cylindrical model can be easily mapped onto the double-conical one > but the reverse is not true because the black and the white points > don't allow hue or saturation values. This means that any transform > that is implemented in the double conical space can be implemented in > cylindrical space but there are transforms in the cylindrical space > that can't be implemented in double conical space. > > I've produced a little Java app to play with the colour space and > speaking subjectively I like the way colours change as a single slider > is wizzed up and down. I'll have a go at changing it into an applet > and stick it on a web page. Then people can ignore the talk and the > maths and judge it on purely aesthetic grounds. > > Jon > > > Owen Davies wrote: > >> better to use HSI - Hue, Saturation, Intensty (aka IHS or HSB - Hue, >> Saturation, Brightness). This colour space can be visualised as two >> cones sandwiched together at their bases. The apex of the bottom cone >> represents [I min] (black) and the apex of the top cone represents [I >> max] (white). The line connecting the two represents the greyscale >> values (I). At each point along this line, H is undefined and S is 0. >> When I is 0, the horizontal plane of the colour space is greatest, >> because this is the plane where the bases of both cones meet. >> Therefore, S max is greater on this plane than anyhwere else in the >> colour space, thus the most vibrant colours are on this plane. >> Conversely, as you tend towards full brightness or minimum >> brightness, S max is reduced, until it eventually reaches 0. This >> means that as colours become lighter or darker, they automatically >> become less saturated. Furthermore, Jon's initial gripe with S does >> not apply, because adjusting saturation has no impact on H or I. This >> is a much more intutive way of representing colour than HSV. You >> simply think of it as a slider for brightness, a slider for >> saturation and one for hue, with brightness being the only variable >> that alters either of the other two (namely saturation). The Java >> Advanced Imageing (JAI) API has a class called IHSColorSpace >> (http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/forDevelopers/jai- >> apidocs/javax/media/jai/IHSColorSpace.html) which conveniently >> manages colour space transformation from/to RGB. >> >> btw, microsoft and CSS3 use the HSI colour space. apple use HSV. >> Photoshop etc. use both. >> >> Anthony, I think you made a typo on that link because it's broken ;-) >> >> owen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Corfield" >> <an...@sm...> >> To: <bod...@li...> >> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] CSS Processing >> >> >>> We will be holding a 3 day seminar in HSV processing here in late >>> June - to register, click on the link below: >>> http://www.whatthefeckishetalkingabout.com/ >>> >>> On 6 Apr 2006, at 19:37, Jon Maber wrote: >>> >>>> I must bow to your superior mathologicity. >>>> >>>> Many thanks for taking on this work package, good luck..... >>>> >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> Sean Mehan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, all fine Jon, BUT what about compliance with the critical and >>>>> well known Hausdorff's Metric Top, you know: >>>>> >>>>> Let (S,d) be a metric space, and let X be the collection of all >>>>> nonempty bounded closed subsets of S. Let f:S * X -> R+ be defined >>>>> by f(s,B) = inf _(b in B) d(s,b), and let g: X * X -> R+ be given >>>>> by g (A,B) = sup_(a in A) f(a,B), and let delta(A,B) = max >>>>> {g(A,B),g (B,A)}. You must concern yourself with (X, delta)! Your >>>>> method clearly fails here! Pah! >>>>> >>>>> And for anyone wanting to quibble with my counterexample, yes, I >>>>> know, but I couldn't write the vector cross product adequately in >>>>> this crap test format, so had to resort to *. >>>>> >>>>> -s >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6 Apr 2006, at 18:59, Jon Maber wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nearly all user colour preference work will operate in Hue- >>>>>> Saturation-Value space, not Red-Green-Blue space. However, the >>>>>> standard Java HSV colour space (which Bodington currently uses) >>>>>> is not very good so I've devised a better method. (Probably >>>>>> reinvented but it only took a couple of days work.) The standard >>>>>> HSV space is cylindrical where H is the perpendicular distance >>>>>> from the axis to the colour point, H is the angle of that line >>>>>> from the red plane and V is the distance up the cylinder. All >>>>>> of the bottom face is black. (which means that if V=0 then the >>>>>> colour is black regardless of the values of H or S) However, >>>>>> the top face has white only at the center and has bright >>>>>> rainbow colours around the edge. This means that if V is >>>>>> non-zero, V and H are kept constant and S is varied then not >>>>>> only does the perceived saturation change but the brightness >>>>>> does too. The method used to map the cube rgb space onto the >>>>>> cylinder is also dodgy since for certain values of H changing S >>>>>> distorts the perceived hue. >>>>>> >>>>>> My method also maps to a cylinder but the top face of the >>>>>> cylinder is completely white. This means that V==100% always >>>>>> produces white no matter what the value of H or S. It also >>>>>> means that if H and V are kept constant and S is varied, the >>>>>> perceived brightness and hue keep constant. This is acheived by >>>>>> two rotations of the rgb cube so that the white to black vector >>>>>> lines up with the z axis. Then the shape is distorted so that >>>>>> vectors which run from the z axis to the cube surface and which >>>>>> lie parallel to the x,y plane are stretched uniformly to unit >>>>>> length. The resulting cylinder is squashed down the z axis to >>>>>> unit length. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting >>>> language >>>> that extends applications into web and mobile media. 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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2007-01-23 13:54:03
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Excellent Matthew, thanks for that fix! On 23 Jan 2007, at 11:40, Matthew Buckett wrote: > We had reports of downloaded MP3s not playing correctly with quicktime > under firefox. Looking into this it seemed that the Content-length was > not being set on the downloaded file which mean that the quicktime > plugin was only playing the first few seconds of the file. > > The problem was that the compiler was converting the constant > 0x80000000 > to Integer.MIN_VALUE on the line: > > long size = uf.getSize(); > if (size > 0L && size < 0x80000000) > res.setContentLength((int) size); > > which means that the header was never being set. > > I've converted this to: > > if (size > 0L && size <= (long)Integer.MAX_VALUE) > > which means content length headers should get set for most uploaded > files. The fix is in Bodington CVS HEAD. > > -- > -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer > -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services > -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php? > page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...> - 2007-01-23 11:45:35
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Matthew Buckett wrote: > We had reports of downloaded MP3s not playing correctly with quicktime > under firefox. Looking into this it seemed that the Content-length was > not being set on the downloaded file which mean that the quicktime > plugin was only playing the first few seconds of the file. > > The problem was that the compiler was converting the constant 0x80000000 > to Integer.MIN_VALUE on the line: > > long size = uf.getSize(); > if (size > 0L && size < 0x80000000) > res.setContentLength((int) size); > > Good work. Nothing like a spot of gratuitous use of hexadecimal ;-). Alexis |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2007-01-23 11:40:24
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We had reports of downloaded MP3s not playing correctly with quicktime under firefox. Looking into this it seemed that the Content-length was not being set on the downloaded file which mean that the quicktime plugin was only playing the first few seconds of the file. The problem was that the compiler was converting the constant 0x80000000 to Integer.MIN_VALUE on the line: long size = uf.getSize(); if (size > 0L && size < 0x80000000) res.setContentLength((int) size); which means that the header was never being set. I've converted this to: if (size > 0L && size <= (long)Integer.MAX_VALUE) which means content length headers should get set for most uploaded files. The fix is in Bodington CVS HEAD. -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2007-01-19 15:23:55
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+2 on that. has anyone verified that it didn't break other borwsers, and then put it in head. s On 19 Jan 2007, at 13:06, Peter Crowther wrote: >> From: Jim Askey >> i've fixed the IE7 problem by generating a separate stylesheet > > Makes sense. > >> If anyones wants the code then i can post it etc. > > Given how aggressively Microsoft is pushing IE7 through the update > channel, I'd say it's essential that Bodington works with it. Many of > our clients have already switched - most without realising what they > were doing, and none fully realising the impact or testing that their > web applications still worked. Students on genuine Windows* will > do the > same, only more so I suspect. I think we should aim to get this into > HEAD sharpish. > > - Peter > > * In common with many of Microsoft's newer updates, IE7 is only > installed if your copy of Windows checks out as legitimate. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php? > page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2007-01-19 13:06:47
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> From: Jim Askey > i've fixed the IE7 problem by generating a separate stylesheet Makes sense. > If anyones wants the code then i can post it etc. Given how aggressively Microsoft is pushing IE7 through the update channel, I'd say it's essential that Bodington works with it. Many of our clients have already switched - most without realising what they were doing, and none fully realising the impact or testing that their web applications still worked. Students on genuine Windows* will do the same, only more so I suspect. I think we should aim to get this into HEAD sharpish. - Peter * In common with many of Microsoft's newer updates, IE7 is only installed if your copy of Windows checks out as legitimate. |
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From: Jim A. <J....@le...> - 2007-01-19 12:59:29
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Hi,
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Just an update to say that i've fixed the IE7 problem by generating a
separate stylesheet which removes the * before the html part of the *
html fix. The key is to set up a separate hashtable the same as
author_style_sheets in facility to store the info in. That way you can
maintain 'the change only when updated way of working', even if you
switch browsers. If anyones wants the code then i can post it etc.
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Cheers,
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Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: bod...@li...
[mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
M Thomas
Sent: 15 December 2006 10:33
To: Bodington developers
Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] IE 7 issues
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It looks like bodington needs to check for IE in the stylesheet
and load the Peek-a-boo fix in an extended stylesheet.
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M
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On 15/12/06, Jim Askey < J....@le...> wrote:=20
Busted in Safari.
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Jim
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-----Original Message-----
From:
bod...@li...
[mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
M Thomas
Sent: 14 December 2006 15:17
To: Bodington developers
Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] IE 7 issues
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If you remove the * it actually breaks in
firefox...
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Has anyone tried safari or any others?
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M
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On 13/11/06, M Thomas < m....@gm...
<mailto:m....@gm...> > wrote:=20
I think I've found the problem... see
below:
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Internet Explorer 7 won't understand the
star html hack
The star html hack worked in the
opposite way to the child selector, in that any CSS commands that use
this hack are only seen by Internet Explorer. So, to send commands only
to Internet Explorer (including IE on the Mac), you can use:=20
* html #foo {width: 400px;}=20
The * essentially means a wildcard (i.e.
it refers to any and every element). The above rule will apply to any
element assigned id=3D"foo" that's nested within the <html> tag (which =
of
course it will be), which is itself nested inside any other HTML
element.
Huh? Surely the <html> tag can't be
nested inside another tag!? Well, no of course not... but Internet
Explorer 6 and before disagree and will actually obey the above command.
Internet Explorer 7 will however (correctly) ignore the above command,
along with all other non-IE browsers.
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From -
http://www.webcredible.co.uk/user-friendly-resources/css/internet-explor
er-7.shtml=20
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I removed the * from all of the lines in
the section "/* Hides from IE5-mac \*/" of the bs_virtual_author.css and
this seemed to fix the rendering... but it probably breaks it in IE5 for
Mac=20
Michael
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On 10/11/06, Sean Mehan <
se...@sm... <mailto:se...@sm...> > wrote:
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Well spotted, Michael. Tis a bug! In 2.8
as well. ahhh, users actually using!-)=20
s.
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On 10 Nov 2006, at 14:07, M Thomas
wrote:=20
It's breaks in 2.8 too, when you lower
the size...
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On 10/11/06, M Thomas
<m....@gm...> wrote:=20
It isn't the entry, but the fact that
the size of the row drops below a certain size and then IE7's rendering
breaks...=20
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M
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On 10/11/06, M Thomas <
m....@gm...> wrote:=20
I've worked out what is causing it, the
style.css has the following entry under the body section:
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font-size: 0.90em;
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If this is removed IE7 renders it...
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Michael=20
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On 10/11/06, M Thomas <m....@gm...
> wrote:=20
Lol... I don't...
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but joe public do !o)=20
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On 10/11/06, Sean Mehan <
se...@sm... <mailto:se...@sm...> > wrote:=20
Don't use IE!-)=20
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On 10 Nov 2006, at 13:33, M Thomas
wrote:
Hi Colin,
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See attached screen grab. In Bod 2.6
when you have the resource icon size set to small it seems to render
them bizzarely. It seems fine in 2.8???
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Michael
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On 10/11/06, Colin Tatham <
col...@ou... <mailto:col...@ou...> > wrote:=20
M Thomas wrote:
> As I'm sure you are all aware(?) there
is an issue with IE 7 rendering=20
> the list of files at the bottom of a
resource within Bodington.
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Didn't know there was a problem...
We have done some testing of WebLearn,
and there didn't seem to be any problems. Can you give us=20
more details of the rendering problem
with the uploaded file listing you're seeing?=20
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Colin
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> Before I
> look into the problem I thought I'd
check to see if anyone knows what is
> the cause/solution is.=20
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> m.cha3l
>
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2007-01-18 10:48:58
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ahh, wunderbar! schiBer! On 18 Jan 2007, at 10:23, Adam Marshall wrote: > A bit of a rethink form Oxford ......... > > > > Upon reflection, we need to square the proposed change with our > systems team > - they will have to replace the current java implementation with > v1.5 and > they have great constraints on their time at the moment. > > > > So ignore all our votes and let me enquire and get back to the list. > > > > Adam > > -- > Adam Marshall - OUCS > > E-learning Conferences. Book online > Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd - > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ > Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd - > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ > > _____ > > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On > Behalf Of > Peter Crowther > Sent: 18 January 2007 08:11 > To: Bodington developers > Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5 > > > >> From: Sean Mehan >> voting ain't done...yet. >> wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-) > >> From Matthew's email of yesterday 09:40: "I'm all for moving to >> build and > deploying against 1.5." He* hasn't yet turned that into a vote, > but the > intention appears clear. > > Alexis has responded since you sent this. The Robot, whoever he/ > she/it is, > can speak for $(pronoun)self. > > - Peter (via webmail, sorry about the formatting) > > * 'die buckett und die Boer'? I didn't know they'd both had sex > changes... > > <winmail.dat> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php? > page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV________________________________ > _______________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-01-18 10:23:52
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A bit of a rethink form Oxford ......... Upon reflection, we need to square the proposed change with our systems team - they will have to replace the current java implementation with v1.5 and they have great constraints on their time at the moment. So ignore all our votes and let me enquire and get back to the list. Adam -- Adam Marshall - OUCS E-learning Conferences. Book online Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ _____ From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Peter Crowther Sent: 18 January 2007 08:11 To: Bodington developers Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5 > From: Sean Mehan > voting ain't done...yet. > wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-) >From Matthew's email of yesterday 09:40: "I'm all for moving to build and deploying against 1.5." He* hasn't yet turned that into a vote, but the intention appears clear. Alexis has responded since you sent this. The Robot, whoever he/she/it is, can speak for $(pronoun)self. - Peter (via webmail, sorry about the formatting) * 'die buckett und die Boer'? I didn't know they'd both had sex changes... |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2007-01-18 09:40:02
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<continuing with the german theme...i'm stuck, can't get out....> Vee are running unter java Eins Funf! Und wir sind alle gl=FCcklich! tarragan2:/WWW/www.clan.uhi.ac.uk/files # java -version java version "1.5.0_02" Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_02-b09) Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.5.0_02-b09, mixed mode) s. On 18 Jan 2007, at 09:23, Matthew Buckett wrote: > Alistair Young wrote: > >> bodington.org would be saying >> >> "Bodington does no longer run on Java 1.4. To use Bodington you =20 >> must use >> Java 1.5". > > Is anyone still running their Bodington installation on 1.4 (we are)? > > --=20 > Matthew Buckett > <matthew.buckett.vcf> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------=20= > --- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to =20 > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?=20 > page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3DDEVDEV____________________________= ____=20 > _______________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2007-01-18 09:38:27
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> From: Sean Mehan > Now, now, Peter, you should know that gender of nouns auf=20 > Deutsch has =20 > nothing to do with perceived masculinity/femininity! German was the only exam in which I got less than an 'A' at school*, so arguably I *shouldn't* know that! > Das Fenster! I ask you, what isn't transparent about a window, and =20 > what isn't transparent about a woman!-) I'm assuming that was rhetorical. Certainly I wouldn't dare to answer on an archived mailing list :-). - Peter * 'B'. Oh well. |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2007-01-18 09:23:50
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Alistair Young wrote: > bodington.org would be saying > > "Bodington does no longer run on Java 1.4. To use Bodington you must use > Java 1.5". Is anyone still running their Bodington installation on 1.4 (we are)? -- Matthew Buckett |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2007-01-18 09:23:40
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Now, now, Peter, you should know that gender of nouns auf Deutsch has nothing to do with perceived masculinity/femininity! Das Fenster! I ask you, what isn't transparent about a window, and what isn't transparent about a woman!-) s On 18 Jan 2007, at 08:10, Peter Crowther wrote: >> From: Sean Mehan >> voting ain't done...yet. >> wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-) > > From Matthew's email of yesterday 09:40: "I'm all for moving to > build and deploying against 1.5." He* hasn't yet turned that into > a vote, but the intention appears clear. > > Alexis has responded since you sent this. The Robot, whoever he/ > she/it is, can speak for $(pronoun)self. > > - Peter (via webmail, sorry about the formatting) > > * 'die buckett und die Boer'? I didn't know they'd both had sex > changes... > > <winmail.dat> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php? > page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV________________________________ > _______________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2007-01-18 08:10:45
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...> - 2007-01-17 17:27:41
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Yep, I'm cool with that +2. (Hmmm... who's the robot!?!). Alexis Sean Mehan wrote: > voting ain't done...yet. > > wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-) > > > On 17 Jan 2007, at 14:24, Alistair Young wrote: > > >> is someone going to parchmentise the decision to move to 1.5 and >> bung it >> on the website? >> >> -- >> mov eax,1 >> mov ebx,0 >> int 80h >> >> >>> I'd be in favour of move to 1.5. >>> >>> ++2 >>> >>> Aggie >>> >>> ____________________________________________ >>> Andrew G Booth >>> Professor of Online Learning >>> Institute of Life Sciences Education >>> Faculty of Biological Sciences >>> Garstang Building >>> University of Leeds >>> Leeds LS2 9JT >>> U.K. >>> Tel: +44-113-343-3142 >>> ____________________________________________ >>> >>> No Education Patents >>> Boycott Blackboard >>> http://www.noedupatents.org/ >>> ____________________________________________ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bod...@li... >>> [mailto:bod...@li...] On >>> Behalf Of >>> Peter Crowther >>> Sent: 17 January 2007 11:14 >>> To: Bodington developers >>> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5 >>> >>> >>>> From: Adam Marshall >>>> I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring). >>>> >>> And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3. >>> >>> >>>> Think of the benefits of using >>>> generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types >>>> here we come. >>>> >>> ... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course - >>> not a >>> small job. >>> >>> >>>> I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though >>>> >>> Definitely. >>> >>> - Peter >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >>> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to >>> share >>> your >>> opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn >>> cash >>> http://www.techsay.com/default.php? >>> page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bodington-developers mailing list >>> Bod...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >>> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to >>> share >>> your >>> opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn >>> cash >>> http://www.techsay.com/default.php? >>> page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bodington-developers mailing list >>> Bod...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to >> share your >> opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash >> http://www.techsay.com/default.php? >> page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | Alexis O'Connor, VLE Developer (http://bodington.org/) | | OUCS, 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK. | | Tel. +44 (0)1865 283661 | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2007-01-17 16:41:15
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voting ain't done...yet. wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-) On 17 Jan 2007, at 14:24, Alistair Young wrote: > is someone going to parchmentise the decision to move to 1.5 and > bung it > on the website? > > -- > mov eax,1 > mov ebx,0 > int 80h > >> I'd be in favour of move to 1.5. >> >> ++2 >> >> Aggie >> >> ____________________________________________ >> Andrew G Booth >> Professor of Online Learning >> Institute of Life Sciences Education >> Faculty of Biological Sciences >> Garstang Building >> University of Leeds >> Leeds LS2 9JT >> U.K. >> Tel: +44-113-343-3142 >> ____________________________________________ >> >> No Education Patents >> Boycott Blackboard >> http://www.noedupatents.org/ >> ____________________________________________ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...] On >> Behalf Of >> Peter Crowther >> Sent: 17 January 2007 11:14 >> To: Bodington developers >> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5 >> >>> From: Adam Marshall >>> I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring). >> >> And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3. >> >>> Think of the benefits of using >>> generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types >>> here we come. >> >> ... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course - >> not a >> small job. >> >>> I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though >> >> Definitely. >> >> - Peter >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to >> share >> your >> opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn >> cash >> http://www.techsay.com/default.php? >> page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to >> share >> your >> opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn >> cash >> http://www.techsay.com/default.php? >> page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php? > page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2007-01-17 14:24:03
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is someone going to parchmentise the decision to move to 1.5 and bung it on the website? --=20 mov eax,1 mov ebx,0 int 80h > I'd be in favour of move to 1.5. > > ++2 > > Aggie > > ____________________________________________ > Andrew G Booth > Professor of Online Learning > Institute of Life Sciences Education > Faculty of Biological Sciences > Garstang Building > University of Leeds > Leeds LS2 9JT > U.K. > Tel: +44-113-343-3142 > ____________________________________________ > > No Education Patents > Boycott Blackboard > http://www.noedupatents.org/ > ____________________________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf O= f > Peter Crowther > Sent: 17 January 2007 11:14 > To: Bodington developers > Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5 > >> From: Adam Marshall >> I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring). > > And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3. > >> Think of the benefits of using >> generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types >> here we come. > > ... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course - not a > small job. > >> I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though > > Definitely. > > - Peter > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2007-01-17 13:56:47
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I'd be in favour of move to 1.5. ++2 Aggie ____________________________________________ Andrew G Booth Professor of Online Learning Institute of Life Sciences Education Faculty of Biological Sciences Garstang Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT U.K. Tel: +44-113-343-3142=20 ____________________________________________ No Education Patents Boycott Blackboard http://www.noedupatents.org/ ____________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Peter Crowther Sent: 17 January 2007 11:14 To: Bodington developers Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5 > From: Adam Marshall > I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring). And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3. > Think of the benefits of using > generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types=20 > here we come. ... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course - not a small job. > I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though Definitely. - Peter -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share = your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2007-01-17 11:14:30
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> From: Adam Marshall > I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring). And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3. > Think of the benefits of using > generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types=20 > here we come. ... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course - not a small job. > I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though Definitely. - Peter |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-01-17 11:11:48
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I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring). Think of the benefits of using generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types here we come. I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though Adam -- Adam Marshall - OUCS E-learning Conferences. Book online Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Peter Crowther | Sent: 17 January 2007 10:59 | To: Bodington developers | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5 | | > From: Alistair Young | > "Bodington does no longer run on Java 1.4. To use Bodington | > you must use Java 1.5". | | For myself, I think this is acceptable. The number of practical | Bodington platforms remaining without 1.5 support is small, and the JDK | upgrade effort is probably lost in the noise during a Bodington upgrade. | So that's a +1 from me, assuming I still have a vote! | | > 1.5++ for me. Anyone counting the votes? | | Alistair: +1 | Sean: +2 (how come he never uses +1 or -1?) | Peter: +1 | | Present total: +4 on a small sample. | | - Peter | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT | Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share | your | opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash | http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Jim A. <J....@le...> - 2007-01-17 11:10:47
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Can do this to:
<a href=3D"#"
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<span onclick=3D"javascript:...">label</span>
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