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[Bodington-developers] Quotas Implementation

[Matthew B. <mat...@ou...>]

Request for Comment.

I'm currently looking at implementing basic quotas for Bodington as we 
are hoping to allow everyone in Bodington to be able to create their own 
resources and this needs some management.

It would be difficult to follow the traditional model of file system 
quotas where each file has a principal owner and quotas are placed on 
users. The reason being that Bodington doesn't have an idea of one owner 
and implementing this isn't trivial or maybe right.

The route I am probably going to take is allowing for a quota to be 
placed on a resource and it applies to all child resources unless a 
child has its own quota defined.

I am going to initially only allow quotas to be set on a resource at 
creation time although later on quotas should be able to be applied 
after creation.

Quotas will be able to be adjusted after they have been initially set.

Sysadmin will be exempt from quotas.

Quotas will apply to resources (eg you can create a total of 20 
resource) and uploaded files (eg you can only upload 5MB of files).

No hard/soft quotas in version 1 they may come at a later date.

To see the quotas you need manage permission. If you have create 
permission you can see the resource quota. If you have upload permission 
you can see the uploaded file quota.

Exceeding quota will throw a BuildingServerException subclass. Nice 
error handling will be done at most places.

-- 
  -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer
  -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services
  -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/

RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...>]

> > From: Brian Peter Clark
> > There is a good chance that Jabber will play a role in Tetra, too.
> 
> ... Really?  By your own comments on the Tetra list, isn't this
> over-specification at present? :-)
> 
> 		- Peter

"good chance"  - covered me ass.

Brian
> 
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RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Peter C. <Pet...@me...>]

> From: Brian Peter Clark
> There is a good chance that Jabber will play a role in Tetra, too.

... Really?  By your own comments on the Tetra list, isn't this
over-specification at present? :-)

		- Peter

RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...>]

> Selwyn recommends this form of 'documentation'. We'd need to install jabber
> tho', however, this may be a very good idea.

There is a good chance that Jabber will play a role in Tetra, too.

Wooah, I'm on the wrong list.

Brian
> 
> adam
> 
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington-
> | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Matthew Buckett
> | Sent: 09 May 2006 10:13
> | To: bod...@li...
> | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra
> | 
> | Adam Marshall wrote:
> | > 1&2 are fine by me - these are my last full days at work for a while.
> | >
> | > We definitely do need a dev meet.
> | >
> | > As a side note:
> | >
> | > I'd love it if the developers could talk on a conference call for 2
> | hours
> | > every Monday afternoon just to keep up to date with what is being done
> | each
> | > week. We really do need to talk more, it would definitely work out for
> | the
> | > best in the long run. Each meeting could be about one specific burning
> | issue
> | > about which we could all brainstorm!
> | 
> | What about a Jabber/IRC conference? That way people can see what is
> | being discussed but don't have to stop replying to email/coding/eating
> | cakes. The thing I am wary of is that all the interesting discussion
> | happens off the mailing list and we don't have the history for people to
> | look back through.
> | 
> | Moving away from the mailing list means that people who aren't in the
> | conference call don't feel part of the community and miss most of the
> | discussion.
> | 
> | --
> |   -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer
> |   -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services
> |   -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/
> | 
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RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Andrew B. <a.g...@le...>]

I'll hold it until the end of tomorrow, to give you time in case you can't
get the flights.

-----Original Message-----
From: bod...@li...
[mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Sean
Mehan
Sent: 09 May 2006 13:36
To: bod...@li...
Cc: 'Andrew Booth'
Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

Aggie?

It would allow you to release your room on the 31st. Presumably, that
release would give you more resource for cakes!

s


On 9 May 2006, at 12:13, Adam Marshall wrote:

> I think that's a good arrangement.
>
> adam
>
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: bod...@li...
> [mailto:bodington-
> | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Sean Mehan
> | Sent: 09 May 2006 11:51
> | To: bod...@li...
> | Cc: Andrew Booth
> | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting
> + Tetra
> |
> | Hi. Looking at flights and such, UHI can get down on the 31st, but
> | only arriving around 20:00, so we would be available for dinner and
> | such, but no meeting. If Ox could get themselves up that eve as
> well,
> | we could have a prompt start with tea and cakes on the 1st,
> finish on
> | the 2nd in time for a departure for UHI around 16:00(ish) to make a
> | flight that eve.
> |
> | Does anyone disagree?
> |
> | s
> |
> |
> | On 9 May 2006, at 11:37, Andrew Booth wrote:
> |
> | > Notwithstanding the obvious economy of electronic chat, I still
> | > think there
> | > are very good reasons to have the occasional face to face meeting.
> | > (To keep
> | > Tetleys in business if nothing else).  I've booked another room
> for
> | > 1-5 on
> | > the 31st May.  Can we get a consensus of whether we want to start
> | > on the
> | > 31st or the 1st as I'm under some pressure to release the booking
> | > on the
> | > 31st.
> | >
> | > Aggie
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > -------------------------------------------------------
> | > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
> | > security?
> | > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your
> | > job easier
> | > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
> | > Geronimo
> | > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?
> | > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> | > _______________________________________________
> | > Bodington-developers mailing list
> | > Bod...@li...
> | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
> | >
> |
> |
> |
> | -------------------------------------------------------
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> security?
> | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make
> your job
> | easier
> | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
> Geronimo
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>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
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> job easier
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

Aggie?

It would allow you to release your room on the 31st. Presumably, that  
release would give you more resource for cakes!

s


On 9 May 2006, at 12:13, Adam Marshall wrote:

> I think that's a good arrangement.
>
> adam
>
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: bod...@li...  
> [mailto:bodington-
> | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Sean Mehan
> | Sent: 09 May 2006 11:51
> | To: bod...@li...
> | Cc: Andrew Booth
> | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting  
> + Tetra
> |
> | Hi. Looking at flights and such, UHI can get down on the 31st, but
> | only arriving around 20:00, so we would be available for dinner and
> | such, but no meeting. If Ox could get themselves up that eve as  
> well,
> | we could have a prompt start with tea and cakes on the 1st,  
> finish on
> | the 2nd in time for a departure for UHI around 16:00(ish) to make a
> | flight that eve.
> |
> | Does anyone disagree?
> |
> | s
> |
> |
> | On 9 May 2006, at 11:37, Andrew Booth wrote:
> |
> | > Notwithstanding the obvious economy of electronic chat, I still
> | > think there
> | > are very good reasons to have the occasional face to face meeting.
> | > (To keep
> | > Tetleys in business if nothing else).  I've booked another room  
> for
> | > 1-5 on
> | > the 31st May.  Can we get a consensus of whether we want to start
> | > on the
> | > 31st or the 1st as I'm under some pressure to release the booking
> | > on the
> | > 31st.
> | >
> | > Aggie
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > -------------------------------------------------------
> | > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
> | > security?
> | > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your
> | > job easier
> | > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
> | > Geronimo
> | > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?
> | > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> | > _______________________________________________
> | > Bodington-developers mailing list
> | > Bod...@li...
> | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
> | >
> |
> |
> |
> | -------------------------------------------------------
> | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,  
> security?
> | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make  
> your job
> | easier
> | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache  
> Geronimo
> | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? 
> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> | _______________________________________________
> | Bodington-developers mailing list
> | Bod...@li...
> | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,  
> security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your  
> job easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache  
> Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? 
> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
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RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Adam M. <ada...@co...>]

I think that's a good arrangement.

adam

| -----Original Message-----
| From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington-
| dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Sean Mehan
| Sent: 09 May 2006 11:51
| To: bod...@li...
| Cc: Andrew Booth
| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra
| 
| Hi. Looking at flights and such, UHI can get down on the 31st, but
| only arriving around 20:00, so we would be available for dinner and
| such, but no meeting. If Ox could get themselves up that eve as well,
| we could have a prompt start with tea and cakes on the 1st, finish on
| the 2nd in time for a departure for UHI around 16:00(ish) to make a
| flight that eve.
| 
| Does anyone disagree?
| 
| s
| 
| 
| On 9 May 2006, at 11:37, Andrew Booth wrote:
| 
| > Notwithstanding the obvious economy of electronic chat, I still
| > think there
| > are very good reasons to have the occasional face to face meeting.
| > (To keep
| > Tetleys in business if nothing else).  I've booked another room for
| > 1-5 on
| > the 31st May.  Can we get a consensus of whether we want to start
| > on the
| > 31st or the 1st as I'm under some pressure to release the booking
| > on the
| > 31st.
| >
| > Aggie
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > -------------------------------------------------------
| > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
| > security?
| > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your
| > job easier
| > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
| > Geronimo
| > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?
| > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
| > _______________________________________________
| > Bodington-developers mailing list
| > Bod...@li...
| > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
| >
| 
| 
| 
| -------------------------------------------------------
| Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
| Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job
| easier
| Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
| http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
| _______________________________________________
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Colin T. <col...@ou...>]

Sean Mehan wrote:
> Hi. Looking at flights and such, UHI can get down on the 31st, but  only 
> arriving around 20:00, so we would be available for dinner and  such, 
> but no meeting. If Ox could get themselves up that eve as well,  we 
> could have a prompt start with tea and cakes on the 1st, finish on  the 
> 2nd in time for a departure for UHI around 16:00(ish) to make a  flight 
> that eve.
> 
> Does anyone disagree?

No. OK with me.


> On 9 May 2006, at 11:37, Andrew Booth wrote:
> 
>> Notwithstanding the obvious economy of electronic chat, I still  think 
>> there
>> are very good reasons to have the occasional face to face meeting.  
>> (To keep
>> Tetleys in business if nothing else).  I've booked another room for  
>> 1-5 on
>> the 31st May.  Can we get a consensus of whether we want to start  on the
>> 31st or the 1st as I'm under some pressure to release the booking  on the
>> 31st.
>>
>> Aggie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,  
>> security?
>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your  
>> job easier
>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache  
>> Geronimo
>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bodington-developers mailing list
>> Bod...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>>
> 
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job 
> easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
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> 


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____________________________________
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

Hi. Looking at flights and such, UHI can get down on the 31st, but  
only arriving around 20:00, so we would be available for dinner and  
such, but no meeting. If Ox could get themselves up that eve as well,  
we could have a prompt start with tea and cakes on the 1st, finish on  
the 2nd in time for a departure for UHI around 16:00(ish) to make a  
flight that eve.

Does anyone disagree?

s


On 9 May 2006, at 11:37, Andrew Booth wrote:

> Notwithstanding the obvious economy of electronic chat, I still  
> think there
> are very good reasons to have the occasional face to face meeting.  
> (To keep
> Tetleys in business if nothing else).  I've booked another room for  
> 1-5 on
> the 31st May.  Can we get a consensus of whether we want to start  
> on the
> 31st or the 1st as I'm under some pressure to release the booking  
> on the
> 31st.
>
> Aggie
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,  
> security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your  
> job easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache  
> Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? 
> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Bodington-developers mailing list
> Bod...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...>]

no preference, can't see any clashes.


Andrew Booth wrote:

>Notwithstanding the obvious economy of electronic chat, I still think there
>are very good reasons to have the occasional face to face meeting. (To keep
>Tetleys in business if nothing else).  I've booked another room for 1-5 on
>the 31st May.  Can we get a consensus of whether we want to start on the
>31st or the 1st as I'm under some pressure to release the booking on the
>31st.
>
>Aggie
>
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
>Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
>Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
>http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
>_______________________________________________
>Bodington-developers mailing list
>Bod...@li...
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>
>
>  
>

RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Andrew B. <a.g...@le...>]

Notwithstanding the obvious economy of electronic chat, I still think there
are very good reasons to have the occasional face to face meeting. (To keep
Tetleys in business if nothing else).  I've booked another room for 1-5 on
the 31st May.  Can we get a consensus of whether we want to start on the
31st or the 1st as I'm under some pressure to release the booking on the
31st.

Aggie

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...>]

We have been on irc for hmm too long probably, there are ways to conduct 
irc that helps it make more sense
we tend to address each other so that multiple conversations can occur

check out the logs... in the previous email

its as simple as
<urfx>: alistair: what did you think to that?

rather than

<urfx>: what did you think to that?

open remarks are fine but can cause confusion...

just chatting with matthew now on #phos-dev :)

[10:53am] buckett> urfx = Sel?
[10:53am] urfx> :)
[10:53am] urfx> yes
[10:53am] buckett> search: bodington
[10:53am] search> initiating search...
[10:53am] search> 15:34:09 <urfx> Shameless plug:      Use the Bodington 
VLE http://bodington.org
??? BitchX: Added HTTP/FTP grab [20/70]
[10:53am] david> was I correct that you are matthew?  your server name 
had matthew in it so I took a gamble
[10:53am] search> 12:15:55 <urfx> .links          apachestuff     
bodington       keyroom         now             temp
[10:53am] search> Done.
[10:53am] search> 
http://crizza.ionode.org/IoGrepperFiles/phos-search.php?regexp=bodington
??? BitchX: Added HTTP/FTP grab [20/71]
[10:53am] buckett> :-)
[10:53am] david> oops interrupted that some what













Alistair Young wrote:

> just to note - I can't afford a 2 hour blether on the phone - too  
> much to do! Chat is better but it can easily become a mess if  
> everyone starts chatting at the same time. How about snail mail  
> instead? Bodington Agony Aunt - "dear auntie, I've recently started  
> using bodington and all my hair has fallen out. All my friends hate  
> me. What should I do?".
>
> Alistair
>
> On 9 May 2006, at 10:22, Adam Marshall wrote:
>
>> The thing I am wary of is that all the interesting discussion
>> | happens off the mailing list and we don't have the history for  
>> people to
>> | look back through.
>> |
>> | Moving away from the mailing list means that people who aren't in  the
>> | conference call don't feel part of the community and miss most of  the
>> | discussion.
>> |
>>
>> Sorry - missed half of this.
>>
>> Can't we archive the Jabbering and stick into the bod wiki or  
>> weblearn or
>> something? Something searchable!
>>
>> I agree that people may feel left out if we don't email, but I  think 
>> direct
>> chat focuses the mind and you can get a lot more word per minute  out 
>> of the
>> mouth than from the finger tips.
>>
>> adam
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,  
>> security?
>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your  
>> job easier
>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache  
>> Geronimo
>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? 
>> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Bod...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
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> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job 
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> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache 
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>

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...>]

If you want to search play with our search bot

then once logged in to irc.ionode.org...

/j #phos-dev

of course we can set up search bots on different channels and channel logs

the syntax to talk to the bot is simple enough

type

search: keyword

Sel


Adam Marshall wrote:

>The thing I am wary of is that all the interesting discussion
>| happens off the mailing list and we don't have the history for people to
>| look back through.
>| 
>| Moving away from the mailing list means that people who aren't in the
>| conference call don't feel part of the community and miss most of the
>| discussion.
>| 
>
>Sorry - missed half of this. 
>
>Can't we archive the Jabbering and stick into the bod wiki or weblearn or
>something? Something searchable!
>
>I agree that people may feel left out if we don't email, but I think direct
>chat focuses the mind and you can get a lot more word per minute out of the
>mouth than from the finger tips.
>
>adam
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
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>

RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Peter C. <Pet...@me...>]

> From: Andrew Booth
> I have provisionally booked a meeting room here at Leeds for=20
> the 1st and 2nd June.
>=20
> I thought perhaps a developers meeting on the 1st and a Tetra=20
> meeting on the 2nd.

I can make both days, but will be the only available person to field
calls to Melandra so may be in and out of the meeting.

		- Peter

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Antony C. <an...@sm...>]

Sean, you may not have created these timetables but that's no excuse =20
for not being able to read them!

Eastern Airways
Inverness - Manchester
01/06/06 dept 07:05 arrive 08:30

Train
Manchester - Leeds
01/06/06 dept 09:07 arrive 10:10

so we could get there for about 10:30

Alternatively, since it's an early start from Inverness, rather than =20
overnight there we could come down on 31/05/06
Eastern Airways
Inverness - Manchester
31/05/06 dept 16:55 arrive 20:20

But that doesn't give much time for the evening...


On 9 May 2006, at 07:18, Sean Mehan wrote:

> Thanks, Andrew.
>
> I see from our local, synched diaries that this is free for us so we =20=

> could
> come with some force. Fly to Man and commute up on the train, which =20=

> means
> Eastern Airways in for
> INV-MAN 09:00	10:15 and MAN-INV 18:45	20:00, so I guess that would =20
> make us
> a noon start or we would come down the day before and enjoy Leeds
> hospitality.
>
> http://www.easternairways.com/index.php?=20
> option=3Dcom_content&task=3Dview&id=3D115&Itemid=3D157
>
> There is a direct flight between Leeds and Inversneckie, but it =
doesn't
> look good either way:
>
> http://www.easternairways.com/content/view/113/155/
>
> INV-LBA 10:20	11:45	and LBA-INV    13:40	15:05
>
> so, again, we could come down the day before, but it doesn't help us =20=

> get
> out the door.
>
> However, just to fully exhaust P_i, if the Southrons want a decent day =
=20
> up,
> they could take a train or some such, and we could all start for noon,
> luncheon and cakes, and we could depart the third day on the Leeds =20
> flight
> (that is, start 31/4 at noonish, second days meeting 1/6, we depart =20=

> 2/6 at
> 13:40, perhaps after a morning of reflection and discussion on the =20
> meaning
> of life again?
>
> Sorry to be problematic, but I didn't create these flight =
timetables!-)
>
> I think that it would be a good time for a meeting for all of the =20
> obvious
> reasons, and I think that it would be a great idea to hold the meeting =
=20
> in
> Leeds in order to make it as easy as possible to get participation =
from
> the other half of Leeds!-) (we know you're out there, o lurkers!-)
>
> -s
>
>
>
> <quote who=3D"Andrew Booth">
>> I have provisionally booked a meeting room here at Leeds for the 1st =20=

>> and
>> 2nd
>> June.
>>
>> I thought perhaps a developers meeting on the 1st and a Tetra meeting =
=20
>> on
>> the
>> 2nd.
>>
>> Any interest?
>>
>> Aggie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, =20
>> security?
>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your =
job
>> easier
>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache =20
>> Geronimo
>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?=20
>> cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D121642
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bodington-developers mailing list
>> Bod...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>>
>
>
> --=20
> Sean Mehan
> Head of e-Frameworks
> Learning and Information Services
> UHI
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, =20
> security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job =
=20
> easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache =20
> Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642=

> _______________________________________________
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> Bod...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...>]

Hi All,

Phos can set up a logged irc channel in about 15 minutes on irc.ionode.org
we also have a search bot for the logs... logs are text, html and rdf...

if your not allowed to irc... we can set up accounts on one of our 
servers so you can ssh in and use BitchX

if your really comfy on nix then you can have a screen session to in 
case of nasty network gliches.

Alternaively perhaps Chatzilla for FF / Moz or
Mirc for windoze

Very happy to offer a logged IRC conference / meeting up as hosts FOC.

If you want to get a feel for a logged IRC conference... and you are 
allowed to use irc...

then here are some details:

*server:*
irc.ionode.org
[port 6667]

then join a logged chat channel we set up earlier [/j or /join]

#ionode

logs are available on

https://mail.phosphorix.co.uk/irc-log/dev-ioagent.ionode.phosphorix.co.uk:6667/ionode/

Cheers

Selwyn


!! We are very interested in the Tetra aspect of the planned meeting 
btw... so are non boddington developers welcome?


Matthew Buckett wrote:

> Adam Marshall wrote:
>
>> 1&2 are fine by me - these are my last full days at work for a while.
>> We definitely do need a dev meet.
>> As a side note:
>>
>> I'd love it if the developers could talk on a conference call for 2 
>> hours
>> every Monday afternoon just to keep up to date with what is being 
>> done each
>> week. We really do need to talk more, it would definitely work out 
>> for the
>> best in the long run. Each meeting could be about one specific 
>> burning issue
>> about which we could all brainstorm!
>
>
> What about a Jabber/IRC conference? That way people can see what is 
> being discussed but don't have to stop replying to email/coding/eating 
> cakes. The thing I am wary of is that all the interesting discussion 
> happens off the mailing list and we don't have the history for people 
> to look back through.
>
> Moving away from the mailing list means that people who aren't in the 
> conference call don't feel part of the community and miss most of the 
> discussion.
>

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...>]

just to note - I can't afford a 2 hour blether on the phone - too  
much to do! Chat is better but it can easily become a mess if  
everyone starts chatting at the same time. How about snail mail  
instead? Bodington Agony Aunt - "dear auntie, I've recently started  
using bodington and all my hair has fallen out. All my friends hate  
me. What should I do?".

Alistair

On 9 May 2006, at 10:22, Adam Marshall wrote:

> The thing I am wary of is that all the interesting discussion
> | happens off the mailing list and we don't have the history for  
> people to
> | look back through.
> |
> | Moving away from the mailing list means that people who aren't in  
> the
> | conference call don't feel part of the community and miss most of  
> the
> | discussion.
> |
>
> Sorry - missed half of this.
>
> Can't we archive the Jabbering and stick into the bod wiki or  
> weblearn or
> something? Something searchable!
>
> I agree that people may feel left out if we don't email, but I  
> think direct
> chat focuses the mind and you can get a lot more word per minute  
> out of the
> mouth than from the finger tips.
>
> adam
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,  
> security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your  
> job easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache  
> Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? 
> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Bodington-developers mailing list
> Bod...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Matthew B. <mat...@ou...>]

Alistair Young wrote:
> I thoroughly recommend Jivesoft's Wildfire Jabber server:
> 
> http://www.jivesoftware.org/wildfire/
> 
> This is our CLAN chat engine and we're currently looking at shibbing it 
> too. It has an MSN plugin though I haven't got it working yet.

If you trust people you can use one of the remote transports as long as 
you have server 2 server enabled. When I say trust it is because your 
MSN password goes through the remote transport.

-- 
  -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer
  -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services
  -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Matthew B. <mat...@ou...>]

Adam Marshall wrote:
> Selwyn recommends this form of 'documentation'. We'd need to install jabber
> tho', however, this may be a very good idea.

You don't need a jabber server there are 100s of free ones you can have 
an account on. gmail gives you a jabber server and conference.jabber.org 
has conference rooms.

-- 
  -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer
  -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services
  -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...>]

I thoroughly recommend Jivesoft's Wildfire Jabber server:

http://www.jivesoftware.org/wildfire/

This is our CLAN chat engine and we're currently looking at shibbing  
it too. It has an MSN plugin though I haven't got it working yet.

Alistair


On 9 May 2006, at 10:18, Adam Marshall wrote:

> Selwyn recommends this form of 'documentation'. We'd need to  
> install jabber
> tho', however, this may be a very good idea.
>
> adam
>
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: bod...@li...  
> [mailto:bodington-
> | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Matthew Buckett
> | Sent: 09 May 2006 10:13
> | To: bod...@li...
> | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting  
> + Tetra
> |
> | Adam Marshall wrote:
> | > 1&2 are fine by me - these are my last full days at work for a  
> while.
> | >
> | > We definitely do need a dev meet.
> | >
> | > As a side note:
> | >
> | > I'd love it if the developers could talk on a conference call  
> for 2
> | hours
> | > every Monday afternoon just to keep up to date with what is  
> being done
> | each
> | > week. We really do need to talk more, it would definitely work  
> out for
> | the
> | > best in the long run. Each meeting could be about one specific  
> burning
> | issue
> | > about which we could all brainstorm!
> |
> | What about a Jabber/IRC conference? That way people can see what is
> | being discussed but don't have to stop replying to email/coding/ 
> eating
> | cakes. The thing I am wary of is that all the interesting discussion
> | happens off the mailing list and we don't have the history for  
> people to
> | look back through.
> |
> | Moving away from the mailing list means that people who aren't in  
> the
> | conference call don't feel part of the community and miss most of  
> the
> | discussion.
> |
> | --
> |   -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer
> |   -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing  
> Services
> |   -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/
> |
> |
> | -------------------------------------------------------
> | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,  
> security?
> | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make  
> your job
> | easier
> | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache  
> Geronimo
> | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? 
> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> | _______________________________________________
> | Bodington-developers mailing list
> | Bod...@li...
> | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,  
> security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your  
> job easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache  
> Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? 
> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Bodington-developers mailing list
> Bod...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers

RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Adam M. <ada...@co...>]

The thing I am wary of is that all the interesting discussion
| happens off the mailing list and we don't have the history for people to
| look back through.
| 
| Moving away from the mailing list means that people who aren't in the
| conference call don't feel part of the community and miss most of the
| discussion.
| 

Sorry - missed half of this. 

Can't we archive the Jabbering and stick into the bod wiki or weblearn or
something? Something searchable!

I agree that people may feel left out if we don't email, but I think direct
chat focuses the mind and you can get a lot more word per minute out of the
mouth than from the finger tips.

adam

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...>]

Selwyn Lloyd wrote:
> err i think the answer is Kylie
> 
> www.*kylie*.co.uk/
> 
> :) i should be so lurky
> 

Not that I get easily distracted by following links or anything, but it 
would appear that the pint-sized pop princess has recently been 
collaborating with the Scissor Sisters ...

-- 
Alexis

RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Adam M. <ada...@co...>]

Selwyn recommends this form of 'documentation'. We'd need to install jabber
tho', however, this may be a very good idea.

adam

| -----Original Message-----
| From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington-
| dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Matthew Buckett
| Sent: 09 May 2006 10:13
| To: bod...@li...
| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra
| 
| Adam Marshall wrote:
| > 1&2 are fine by me - these are my last full days at work for a while.
| >
| > We definitely do need a dev meet.
| >
| > As a side note:
| >
| > I'd love it if the developers could talk on a conference call for 2
| hours
| > every Monday afternoon just to keep up to date with what is being done
| each
| > week. We really do need to talk more, it would definitely work out for
| the
| > best in the long run. Each meeting could be about one specific burning
| issue
| > about which we could all brainstorm!
| 
| What about a Jabber/IRC conference? That way people can see what is
| being discussed but don't have to stop replying to email/coding/eating
| cakes. The thing I am wary of is that all the interesting discussion
| happens off the mailing list and we don't have the history for people to
| look back through.
| 
| Moving away from the mailing list means that people who aren't in the
| conference call don't feel part of the community and miss most of the
| discussion.
| 
| --
|   -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer
|   -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services
|   -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/
| 
| 
| -------------------------------------------------------
| Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
| Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job
| easier
| Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
| http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
| _______________________________________________
| Bodington-developers mailing list
| Bod...@li...
| https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers

RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Adam M. <ada...@co...>]

Tetra list?

| -----Original Message-----
| From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington-
| dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young
| Sent: 09 May 2006 10:05
| To: bod...@li...
| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra
| 
| where's the best place to talk about tetra? on the tetra list (blow
| away the cobwebs) or here? I have some questions for the good folks
| who will go to the Leeds meeting.
| 
| Alistair
| 
| On 9 May 2006, at 10:01, Adam Marshall wrote:
| 
| > 1&2 are fine by me - these are my last full days at work for a while.
| >
| > We definitely do need a dev meet.
| >
| > As a side note:
| >
| > I'd love it if the developers could talk on a conference call for 2
| > hours
| > every Monday afternoon just to keep up to date with what is being
| > done each
| > week. We really do need to talk more, it would definitely work out
| > for the
| > best in the long run. Each meeting could be about one specific
| > burning issue
| > about which we could all brainstorm!
| >
| > adam
| >
| > | -----Original Message-----
| > | From: bod...@li...
| > [mailto:bodington-
| > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Andrew Booth
| > | Sent: 08 May 2006 10:06
| > | To: 'Bodington Developers'
| > | Cc: Andrew Booth
| > | Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra
| > |
| > | I have provisionally booked a meeting room here at Leeds for the
| > 1st and
| > | 2nd
| > | June.
| > |
| > | I thought perhaps a developers meeting on the 1st and a Tetra
| > meeting on
| > | the
| > | 2nd.
| > |
| > | Any interest?
| > |
| > | Aggie
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | -------------------------------------------------------
| > | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
| > security?
| > | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make
| > your job
| > | easier
| > | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
| > Geronimo
| > | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?
| > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
| > | _______________________________________________
| > | Bodington-developers mailing list
| > | Bod...@li...
| > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > -------------------------------------------------------
| > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
| > security?
| > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your
| > job easier
| > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
| > Geronimo
| > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?
| > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
| > _______________________________________________
| > Bodington-developers mailing list
| > Bod...@li...
| > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
| 
| 
| 
| -------------------------------------------------------
| Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
| Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job
| easier
| Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
| http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
| _______________________________________________
| Bodington-developers mailing list
| Bod...@li...
| https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers

Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington developers meeting + Tetra

[Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...>]

Alistair Young wrote:
> where's the best place to talk about tetra? on the tetra list (blow away 
> the cobwebs) or here? I have some questions for the good folks who will 
> go to the Leeds meeting.
> 
> Alistair
> 

Woah! Why not be crazy and send it to the tetra list.

For those that don't know that's tet...@li....

Alexis