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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-06-05 12:34:26
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Now online at: http://bodington.org/wiki/ Please add your own guff into the meeting notes page AND (more importantly) add text to the release notes page. Brian - do you have a picture, it'd be good for the website. adam |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-06-05 12:32:52
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> From: Adam Marshall > Did we formally agree that all new developments with bod=20 > should use JSP / > Spring? (With the proviso that Matthew must write a=20 > developers guide first). I believe there was a general muttering that it would be a Good Idea for completely new tools, then slowly move the existing tools over. If anyone went so far as to do more than mutter and shuffle their feet then I don't recall it. - Peter |
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From: Atif S. <BM...@bm...> - 2006-06-05 12:26:15
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Adam Marshall wrote: >Did we formally agree that all new developments with bod should use JSP / >Spring? (With the proviso that Matthew must write a developers guide first). > >If we did agree this then we really should all bite the bullet and not shy >away! > >adam > > +2 for Spring MVC |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-06-05 12:01:01
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Did we formally agree that all new developments with bod should use JSP / Spring? (With the proviso that Matthew must write a developers guide first). If we did agree this then we really should all bite the bullet and not shy away! adam |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-06-05 10:16:34
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Hope Marie is feeling better now. Yes we really missed your input too, both in the look and feel debate and the way forward (tetra). adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Selwyn Lloyd | Sent: 02 June 2006 12:02 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: [Bodington-developers] update on marie and some ideas for | discussion | | Hi all, | | | Marie couldn't even walk on her own by the time I got home yesterday, | managed to get her to the docs, and she is recovering, tests have been | done thats all we know, severe flu like symptoms. | | | I am really miffed to miss the various discussions, particularly about | Tetra concepts. | We have looked at integrating with Bod and Sakai in the past and think | that other than major hacks and lots of pain we really need to start | discussing an open common architecture. | | From our perspective we like a number of ideas / themes wrt to | plugability and interoperability and often discuss the potential of... | | 1. common portlets, common web services type architecture | - to achieve real reuseability either the portlets and web services | need to be self contained in terms of their config data and active data | else see below | | 2. common schema, common libraries such as reuseable war and jar files. | - a common database schema across e-learning seems far fetched, but | across bodington, sakai, ioportal perhaps its possible to agree on at | least a hibernate mapping. i.e. a common database abstraction layer. | | Just a couple of ideas to throw into the pot today. | | cheers | | Sel | | | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2006-06-04 08:14:53
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As agreed at the Bodington Developers meeting, I have now added Quick Links to HEAD. Aggie |
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From: Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...> - 2006-06-02 11:49:44
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Yes we have been having Indian summers for the last decade, it really is the best time to be in the Westcountry. airports are Newquay, Plymouth, Exeter. all within an hours drive of each other. Alistair Young wrote: >yes, put my name down now please :) is it still warm down there in >October? > >Alistair > >On 2 Jun 2006, at 12:40, Matthew Buckett wrote: > > > >>Just a quick note to say that we are looking to have the next >>meeting on >>the 17th/18th of October. And the current suggestion is of having >>it in >>the South West. >> >>-- >> -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer >> -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services >> -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Bodington-developers mailing list >>Bod...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Bodington-developers mailing list >Bod...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-06-02 11:41:52
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yes, put my name down now please :) is it still warm down there in October? Alistair On 2 Jun 2006, at 12:40, Matthew Buckett wrote: > Just a quick note to say that we are looking to have the next > meeting on > the 17th/18th of October. And the current suggestion is of having > it in > the South West. > > -- > -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer > -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services > -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2006-06-02 11:40:05
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Just a quick note to say that we are looking to have the next meeting on the 17th/18th of October. And the current suggestion is of having it in the South West. -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ |
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From: Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...> - 2006-06-02 11:01:41
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Hi all, Marie couldn't even walk on her own by the time I got home yesterday, managed to get her to the docs, and she is recovering, tests have been done thats all we know, severe flu like symptoms. I am really miffed to miss the various discussions, particularly about Tetra concepts. We have looked at integrating with Bod and Sakai in the past and think that other than major hacks and lots of pain we really need to start discussing an open common architecture. From our perspective we like a number of ideas / themes wrt to plugability and interoperability and often discuss the potential of... 1. common portlets, common web services type architecture - to achieve real reuseability either the portlets and web services need to be self contained in terms of their config data and active data else see below 2. common schema, common libraries such as reuseable war and jar files. - a common database schema across e-learning seems far fetched, but across bodington, sakai, ioportal perhaps its possible to agree on at least a hibernate mapping. i.e. a common database abstraction layer. Just a couple of ideas to throw into the pot today. cheers Sel |
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From: Paul D. <pau...@ou...> - 2006-05-31 15:43:58
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Something that has been discussed, but we don't have to mention is deletion of resources (permanently!) Hopefully someone can carry this to the meeting tomorrow Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Paul V Davis Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group Marketing coordinator, Bodington.org Oxford University Computing Services 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN Tel: 01865 283414 |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-05-31 14:30:15
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ResourceSummary was a performance enhancer for sending resource information through an RMI link. The Resource class when serialised would send keys (not references) to various BigString objects and fetching them through RMI would involve quite a bit of to and fro on the wire. So ResourceSummary is a non functional version of Resource that can hold all the important string values which can be serialised in one package. If you get rid of RMI it becomes redundant. (Well, let's say 'even more redundant') Jon Matthew Buckett wrote: > We have a class org.bodington.server.resources.ResourceSummary that > seems to be returned by a couple of routines in NavigationSession: > > public ResourceSummary getRootSummary() > throws BuildingServerException; > > public Vector childSummaries( PrimaryKey resource_id ) > throws BuildingServerException; > > but it seems like these methods never get called. What was the idea > with ResourceSummary and is it going to be developed further? > |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-05-31 13:03:29
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We've changed some of the settings on the Wiki, so the following should now apply: - file uploads allowed - editing by logged in users only - anonymous account creation disabled This means you'll have to email me (or any volunteers to help) to create a username. The username handling is a bit weird, as far as I can gather: - first letter becomes capital, even if you create it with a lower case letter (log-in is case-insensitive). - underscore becomes space (and you can use either in logging in) - users can't be deleted or re-named (without a major fuss) Colin PS: http://bodington.org/wiki/ -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2006-05-31 10:55:34
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Bodington Developers meeting Room 10.130 (Large Masters Room) Garstang Building University of Leeds Agenda Day 1 10.00am - 12.30pm Reports from each site about Bodington developments: Oxford UHI Leeds (Faculty of Biological Sciences) Leeds (VLE Service) Melandra Phosphorix 2.00pm - 4.30pm The next release (2.8) The view layer (Oxford) Day 2 10.00am - 12.30 Tetra - the way forward. |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-05-31 08:55:28
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Is there a plan to meet up tonight? We'll be arriving chez weetwood at about 19.30. If there's no plan as such could a Leedser suggest somewhere to chow down? Is the weetwood food worth it? adam |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-05-30 21:56:42
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ugh. second time to send this. let's see if i can remember what i wrote!-= ). I had to get home to try to write something out. kill your phone. really. I offer the following for hacking. 1. Welcome from Leeds and publishing of cake trolley schedule. 2. Status of Bod 2.8 Head. 3. Current 2.8 affecting work at Leeds. 4. Current 2.8 affecting work at Ox. 5. Current 2.8 affecting work at Melandra. 6. Current 2.8 affecting work at UHI. 7. Plan for 2.8 wrap-up, release and tasks. 8. Status of License. 9. SF (i hate session). 10. 2.9 work/wishlist/requirements discussion at each partner, general discussion, big board. For UHI, this could be 4 months, or Xmas(ish). 11. Plan for 2.10 release and timeline. 12. Report of other Bods (e.g. MOD, U Leeds, etc.). 13. Medium Term discussion for Bod/Tetra. big board. Includes Arch, integration of other components, etc. Possible projects as well. 14. Long term discussion for Tetra. Use cases!-) and strat, projects / partners. Plan!-) 15. AOCB. 16. Date of next meeting. <quote who=3D"Peter Crowther"> > Do we have an agenda for the dev meet? Will we have? > > - Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-05-30 21:23:09
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I had to come home to get some peace. Here is my offering. Please hack, but here is how i see the full [0,2) days. I'll leave it to Aggie/BPC/Michael/other to interject lunch, drink, cakes, drink, dinner, drink, breakie, drink, lunch, cakes, drink, tea, depart!-) 1. Welcome and cake trolley schedule from Leeds. 2. Status of Bod Head, including bugs and features in Head. 3. Current work at Leeds, relating to anything relevant to 2.8. 4. Current work at Oxford 5. Current work at Melandra 6. Current work at UHI 7. Wrap-up and release for 2.8, timeschedule and tasks 8. License situation for Bod. 9. Discussion of general Bod situation outside of dev partners, e.g. MOD poss, Univ Leeds situation, etc. 10. Planned projects coming up over 2.9 developpment cycle, general discussion with a big board. For UHI this is in the next, say, four months. 11. Discussion of medium term strategy for Bod/Tetra devs, including arch and integration with other components. 12. Discussion of long term strategy for Tetra devs, and discussion of projects, etc. 13. AOCB 14. Date of next meeting. <quote who=3D"Peter Crowther"> > Do we have an agenda for the dev meet? Will we have? > > - Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI |
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From: Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...> - 2006-05-30 18:05:28
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Peter, An agenda will be circulated tomorrow. I think that so far we have reports from each group and discussion of the view layer for bods. I suppose for the tetra do, people will be coming loaded to the gunwhales with use cases. Please forward any suggestions. Regards, Brian > Do we have an agenda for the dev meet? Will we have? > > - Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-05-30 09:19:55
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Do we have an agenda for the dev meet? Will we have? - Peter |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2006-05-25 15:19:51
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Well spotted Matthew, this was just a cunning way for Alexis to check that working from home doesn't dull the senses! On 25 May 2006, at 16:00, Matthew Buckett wrote: > Antony Corfield wrote: >> Hi, >> We're merging with Bod HEAD and I see that HttpSession.getSessions() >> has been removed and replaced with findSessionByAuthenticationString >> etc. How do I get Hashtable of all current sessions? > > What CVS version had HttpSession.getSessions()? Is it not a method you > added locally? > > -- > -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer > -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services > -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! > Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat > certifications in > the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=107521&bid=248729&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2006-05-25 15:00:59
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Hi, > We're merging with Bod HEAD and I see that HttpSession.getSessions() has > been removed and replaced with findSessionByAuthenticationString etc. > How do I get Hashtable of all current sessions? What CVS version had HttpSession.getSessions()? Is it not a method you added locally? -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2006-05-25 14:55:32
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oops this was a Class A dumb question! We added getSessions() method to CLAN back in January! Sorry 'bout that, Antony On 25 May 2006, at 15:30, Antony Corfield wrote: > Hi, > We're merging with Bod HEAD and I see that HttpSession.getSessions() > has been removed and replaced with findSessionByAuthenticationString > etc. How do I get Hashtable of all current sessions? > > Antony > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! > Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat > certifications in > the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=107521&bid=248729&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...> - 2006-05-25 14:54:14
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Hi, > We're merging with Bod HEAD and I see that HttpSession.getSessions() has > been removed and replaced with findSessionByAuthenticationString etc. > How do I get Hashtable of all current sessions? > > Antony > I suspect Matthew is the man with the answer, but he's "working" at home today ;-). Alexis |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2006-05-25 14:31:16
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Hi, We're merging with Bod HEAD and I see that HttpSession.getSessions() has been removed and replaced with findSessionByAuthenticationString etc. How do I get Hashtable of all current sessions? Antony |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...> - 2006-05-25 09:49:42
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Andrew Booth wrote: > Would anyone be interested in another option for the setup servlet - 'copy > data from existing Bodington'? It could be useful for those upgrading or > changing database product. It occurred to me that it would be useful when > I'm setting up SQL Server 2005, to be able to just replicate my existing > PostgreSQL database and the uploaded files. > > Aggie > I think this kind of option would be very useful. I don't know if there any other standard ways of exporting databases betwixt vendors (Hibnernate, etc?), but this Apache project looks promising: DdlUtils (http://db.apache.org/ddlutils/). No released files yet, but it builds from CVS without problems and does describe itself as version 1.0-dev. Alexis |
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