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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-06-12 16:12:10
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uhmm, both! The real detailed stuff needed for users when the release comes is 1) what does it do; 2) what do i need to do to use it. s On 9 Jun 2006, at 14:58, Colin Tatham wrote: > Jon Maber wrote: >> Ive been contracted to do a certain amount of testing on 2.8 before >> release at the end of the month. Im starting on Monday and will do >> about >> 5 days full time equivalent over two weeks. >> >> There are two things that are prerequisits to this work: > >> 2) The detail gets added to the list of new features so I know how >> the >> new functionality is supposed to behave rather than test against >> what I >> guess is its proper behaviour. > > What's the intended purpose of the 2.8 release page in the Wiki? > Description of new features for > informing the public when we release it, or more detailed stuff > that we all need to know for > testing/deployment? I'm presuming the latter... > > Colin > > -- > ____________________________________ > Colin Tatham > VLE Team > Oxford University Computing Services > > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > http://bodington.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
From: Paul T. <pau...@ou...> - 2006-06-12 14:49:14
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On 08/06/2006 13:54, Colin Tatham wrote: > Adam Marshall wrote: > >> Done now. >> > > Must admit, looks good. :-) > > I'll hide some obscenities in the notes, and see if anyone ever finds them! > Following this thread, I've taken the liberty of linking to the OSS-Watch site which has notes from a meeting back in 2003(!) Could be of archaeological interest. - Paul ------------------------------------- Paul Trafford WebLearn Administrator Oxford University Computing Services 13 Banbury Road Oxford OX2 6NN pau...@ou... 01865 283429 ------------------------------------- |
From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-06-11 19:43:43
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> I'll just go and eat worms... mmmmmm.... would sir like to sample tonight's menu? http://www.cybercandy.co.uk/aaasmt/index.php/url_pmet3/xlc_601/xdbc_22/db= tc_3/pic_1/add_44112/stc_1/scope_short scroll down to the worm flavoured crisps! --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland > Peter Crowther wrote: >> If they're in the Wiki, at least they can be edited for clarity. If >> they're not even in the Wiki, they can't. > > yeah, yeah, think I'll just go and eat worms... > > :-) > > > -- > ____________________________________ > Colin Tatham > VLE Team > Oxford University Computing Services > > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > http://bodington.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2006-06-10 07:26:05
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Yes - I'm only using the indices set up when installing Bodington. I've not added any others. -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Peter Crowther Sent: 09 June 2006 17:29 To: Bodington developers Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington with MySQL 5.0 > From: Andrew Booth > Resource creation, modification and > deletion in particular are much quicker. Interesting - that stresses the XML repository, probably more than anything else. I assume all the databases have identical indexes? - Peter _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-06-09 16:29:40
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> From: Andrew Booth > Resource creation, modification and > deletion in particular are much quicker. Interesting - that stresses the XML repository, probably more than anything else. I assume all the databases have identical indexes? - Peter |
From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2006-06-09 16:26:34
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I've been trying out MySQL 5.0 with Bodington. The instructions for MySQL 4 that I put into the /docs directory work fine for version 5.0. I'm using a snapshot of our production Bodington setup copied from PostgreSQL with a little jdbc program. I've tried the identical database contents with both PostgreSQL and SQL Server 2005 as backend database. So far, MySQL 5.0 seems quicker than either of the others. Resource creation, modification and deletion in particular are much quicker. Anyone else want to try it? Aggie ____________________________________________ Andrew G Booth Professor of On-Line Learning Faculty of Biological Sciences Garstang Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT U.K. Tel: +44-113-343-3142 Fax: +44-113-343-3167 email: a.g...@le... personal email should be sent to: an...@ag... ____________________________________________ |
From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-06-09 13:59:05
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Jon Maber wrote: > Ive been contracted to do a certain amount of testing on 2.8 before > release at the end of the month. Im starting on Monday and will do about > 5 days full time equivalent over two weeks. > > There are two things that are prerequisits to this work: > 2) The detail gets added to the list of new features so I know how the > new functionality is supposed to behave rather than test against what I > guess is its proper behaviour. What's the intended purpose of the 2.8 release page in the Wiki? Description of new features for informing the public when we release it, or more detailed stuff that we all need to know for testing/deployment? I'm presuming the latter... Colin -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-06-09 12:12:30
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What file(s) are you talking about? Isnt there a CVS history that could help here? adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Sean Mehan | Sent: 09 June 2006 13:02 | To: Bodington developers | Cc: Bodington developers | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Testing 2.8 | | not me, guv... | | | | s | <quote who="Peter Crowther"> | >> From: Jon Maber | >> 1) Stuff gets commited to CVS so I get grab it and build. (I | >> dont want to keep rebuilding and retesting) | > | > Done. Some of the XML repository upgrade script appears to have gone | > from HEAD, however - anyone want to comment on why? | > | >> 2) The detail gets added to the list of new features so I | >> know how the | >> new functionality is supposed to behave rather than test | >> against what I guess is its proper behaviour. | > | > Done. | > | > - Peter | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | | | -- | Sean Mehan | Head of e-Frameworks | Learning and Information Services | UHI | | | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-06-09 12:01:47
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not me, guv... s <quote who=3D"Peter Crowther"> >> From: Jon Maber >> 1) Stuff gets commited to CVS so I get grab it and build. (I >> dont want to keep rebuilding and retesting) > > Done. Some of the XML repository upgrade script appears to have gone > from HEAD, however - anyone want to comment on why? > >> 2) The detail gets added to the list of new features so I >> know how the >> new functionality is supposed to behave rather than test >> against what I guess is its proper behaviour. > > Done. > > - Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI |
From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2006-06-09 10:59:11
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Peter Crowther wrote: >> From: Jon Maber >> 1) Stuff gets commited to CVS so I get grab it and build. (I >> dont want to keep rebuilding and retesting) > > Done. Some of the XML repository upgrade script appears to have gone > from HEAD, however - anyone want to comment on why? Well if developer CVS I'd have a look..... blinking sourceforge.... at least anon CVS seems working. Where has it gone from? What was the file? -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ |
From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-06-09 10:36:15
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> From: Jon Maber > 1) Stuff gets commited to CVS so I get grab it and build. (I=20 > dont want to keep rebuilding and retesting) Done. Some of the XML repository upgrade script appears to have gone from HEAD, however - anyone want to comment on why? > 2) The detail gets added to the list of new features so I=20 > know how the=20 > new functionality is supposed to behave rather than test=20 > against what I guess is its proper behaviour. Done. - Peter |
From: Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...> - 2006-06-08 19:19:56
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Sad tidings from Leeds, bodders. Brian ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Subject: VLE Review: announcement of outcome Date sent: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:13:21 +0100 From: To: <Tea...@le...> Send reply to: Senate is unanimous in supporting the move to a new VLE Following strong support from Senate, yesterday, for the outcomes of the VLE Review, work will begin immediately to put in place the business planning process to purchase and implement a new VLE. Plans will be developed in the next few weeks to ensure that Bodington and the Student Portal can provide effective support for learning and teaching until the new VLE is in place (target 2008/9). Regular updates on process and timescales will be provided on the VLE Review website at: http://www.ldu.leeds.ac.uk/restricted/vle.htm Outcome of VLE Review Senate yesterday considered a paper (see http://www.ldu.leeds.ac.uk/restricted/vle.htm) from the VLE Steering Group providing the outcome of the VLE Review. The recommendations of the paper, below, were fully supported. Recommendation 1: A detailed Business Case should be developed for the implementation of a commercial VLE. This will include consideration of appropriate structures for both technical and user support and training. The aim will be to have the new VLE fully in place across the University for the start of academic year 2008/9, earlier if feasible. Recommendation 2: To cover the period until a commercial VLE can be fully implemented, work should begin immediately to scope and implement an interim solution based on the Luminis Student Portal (for course management) and Bodington (for learning and teaching). This will include the limited upgrading of Bodington, within current resources, to ease the integration with Luminis and to aid the migration of Bodington content into the new VLE. Recommendation 3: The opportunity should be taken to integrate within the aims and objectives of the new Learning and Teaching Strategy the benefits provided by the introduction of the new VLE. This will include consideration of the degree to which the use of the VLE can be encouraged in the majority of teaching along with the resources and structures needed to achieve this aim. Background Approval by Senate completes a major consultation exercise which has included meetings with staff and students to develop a pedagogic specification, a series of site visits to peer institutions (including the universities of Sheffield, Nottingham, Birmingham, Liverpool, LMU, Oxford, Southampton) and presentations and telephone conferences with key suppliers. In addition, an in-depth investigation by an independent consultant familiar with the VLE market place and our in-house systems has been conducted and the VLE Steering Group considered the findings and concluded that: * there is a clear need for a new VLE which should contain up-to-date facilities to allow the University to benefit from the new techniques available to support a new L&T strategy that includes blended learning at its core * the new VLE should be viewed as a core University system, and supported to a similar level of service as other 'mission critical' systems, such as SAP and Banner. * the most appropriate system to meet this need is a commercial system. These conclusions and the consequent recommendations, above, were considered by FMG and LTB leading to the production of a paper to be considered by Senate on 7th June. Learning and Teaching Board welcomed the conclusions and recommendations of the VLESG, underlining that the VLE should be integrated with the Learning and Teaching Strategy at University, Faculty and School levels and be used appropriately within the curriculum, to complement other forms of delivery. If you have any queries about the progress of the plans to introduce the new VLE contact ....... ------- End of forwarded message ------- |
From: Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...> - 2006-06-08 18:53:46
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> hi, we got hold of an older report on senda, and i grokked it with a mind > to bod. if you are mildly interested: > > > http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00sm/?p=192 > > s I think the blog is a tad hard on applets, which are accessible if you do them right. The font size won't increase when the browser font is increased but you have complete control over all the swing fonts in the buttons and menus. You'd just have to give components room to grow a bit because the last time I looked applets didn't dynamically re-size. In fact, I suspect that a very clever person could link up applet fonts with the browser setting using javascript to capture a keypress event then passing this to the applet. There might be an issue here with the clients for the forthcoming bods messaging application. I would also suspect that there might be a case for writing a special applet or application that would provide a reet royal dose of accessibility. Some of the clients will have you ferreting down a layer or two to find how to change font characteristics, and I'm sure some will only change the size of the messaging texts and not the interface text. An accessibility audit of im client software - that's what's needed. (By someone else..who isn't me.) eg http://www.webaim.org/techniques/articles/chats (sept 2004) Despite the wide-spread use of chat programs, few are fully accessible to those with disabilities. Though the situation is not satisfactory at this time, most chat interfaces could easily be made accessible with a few modifications and design changes. If you are designing, implementing, or looking for a chat program, these are a few questions to ask: 1. Is the interface accessible through the keyboard only? 2. Does the program work with common screen readers? 3. Can the user control the scrolling and/or refreshing of messages? 4. Does sound alone convey important information? 5. Are the controls easy to use and clear? 6. If Java is being used, is it designed to work with Jaws and other screen readers? To learn more about accessible chats and other accessibility tips, please visit the {HYPERLINK "/"}webaim.org site or {HYPERLINK "/contact/contact.php?person=jared"}contact the author. Regards, Brian > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-06-08 16:20:25
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Thanks for the password - works fine. Yes, I think SF bugtracker is the thing to use, at least for the time being but I expect to directly Email whoever I think is the author of the thing that broke. Jon Colin Tatham wrote: > Jon Maber wrote: > >> Ill be putting stuff straight into the Wiki so can someone Email me a >> password? I would like my user name to be jonmaber or similar. >> > > I've sent a password. > > What about using the SF bugtracker? > > If you do, the trackers accept anonymous reports, but I think it's preferable to log in, so that we > get a name against each report. If you need to add further categories to bugs, I can create them. > There is a mailing list which receives notifications when reports are created or modified: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-trackers > > Colin > > > |
From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-06-08 16:17:19
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Jon Maber wrote: > Ill be putting stuff straight into the Wiki so can someone Email me a > password? I would like my user name to be jonmaber or similar. I've sent a password. What about using the SF bugtracker? If you do, the trackers accept anonymous reports, but I think it's preferable to log in, so that we get a name against each report. If you need to add further categories to bugs, I can create them. There is a mailing list which receives notifications when reports are created or modified: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-trackers Colin -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-06-08 16:04:23
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Dear all, Ive been contracted to do a certain amount of testing on 2.8 before release at the end of the month. Im starting on Monday and will do about 5 days full time equivalent over two weeks. There are two things that are prerequisits to this work: 1) Stuff gets commited to CVS so I get grab it and build. (I dont want to keep rebuilding and retesting) 2) The detail gets added to the list of new features so I know how the new functionality is supposed to behave rather than test against what I guess is its proper behaviour. There is a strong sense of urgency about this because for you to fix problems that I find I will need to start reporting the problems as I find them, rather than save them up for a final report and I need to start soon. Also, I have another client who needs me to do work this month and that client has priority over my time since they engaged me first. Ill be putting stuff straight into the Wiki so can someone Email me a password? I would like my user name to be jonmaber or similar. Ta. Jon |
From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-06-08 15:22:34
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hi, we got hold of an older report on senda, and i grokked it with a mind to bod. if you are mildly interested: http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00sm/?p=3D192 s |
From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-06-08 13:57:56
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Is that a Boer thing? No wonder you guys lost the war!-) <quote who=3D"Colin Tatham"> > Peter Crowther wrote: >> If they're in the Wiki, at least they can be edited for clarity. If >> they're not even in the Wiki, they can't. > > yeah, yeah, think I'll just go and eat worms... > > :-) > > > -- > ____________________________________ > Colin Tatham > VLE Team > Oxford University Computing Services > > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > http://bodington.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI |
From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-06-08 13:13:34
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Peter Crowther wrote: > If they're in the Wiki, at least they can be edited for clarity. If > they're not even in the Wiki, they can't. yeah, yeah, think I'll just go and eat worms... :-) -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-06-08 12:58:37
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> From: Colin Tatham > I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the=20 > notes difficult to relate to the topics=20 > discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of=20 > re-wording, and extracting only the relevant=20 > stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity=20 > of content in a dev wiki, I'm a fan of=20 > less is more...) If they're in the Wiki, at least they can be edited for clarity. If they're not even in the Wiki, they can't. - Peter |
From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-06-08 12:54:06
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Adam Marshall wrote: > Done now. Must admit, looks good. :-) I'll hide some obscenities in the notes, and see if anyone ever finds them! > And links to blogs added - remove if you are unhappy. Add if you know of > more (John Smith? Etc) > > adam > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > | Colin Tatham > | Sent: 08 June 2006 13:37 > | To: Bodington developers > | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki? > | > | Sean Mehan wrote: > | > +1 on the notes in. Being in, someone who is motivated can edit them as > | > they go. > | > | ... or (more likely) we all ignore them. (I'm talking about the old notes > | written by Jane) > | > | > | > Speaking of vaccum: Colin, does everyone who has a name agaist some text > | > in the 2.8 list have an account yet, and thus they are simply lazy, or > | do > | > they still need accounts?-) > | > | There's a list of all users at: > | > | http://bodington.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Listusers > | > | > | > | > <quote who="Adam Marshall"> > | > > | >>I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a > | >>vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to refer > | >>back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree! > | >> > | >>adam > | >> > | >>| -----Original Message----- > | >>| From: bod...@li... > | >>| [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf > | Of > | >>| Colin Tatham > | >>| Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31 > | >>| To: Bodington developers > | >>| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki? > | >>| > | >>| Adam Marshall wrote: > | >>| > I have meeting notes for > | >>| > > | >>| > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006 > | >>| > > | >>| > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no. > | >>| > | >>| I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes > | >>difficult > | >>| to relate to the topics > | >>| discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and > | >>| extracting only the relevant > | >>| stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of content > | >>in > | >>| a dev wiki, I'm a fan of > | >>| less is more...) > | >>| > | >>| > | >>| Colin > | >>| > | >>| -- > | >>| ____________________________________ > | >>| Colin Tatham > | >>| VLE Team > | >>| Oxford University Computing Services > | >>| > | >>| http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > | >>| http://bodington.org > | >>| > | >>| > | >>| _______________________________________________ > | >>| Bodington-developers mailing list > | >>| Bod...@li... > | >>| https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | >> > | >> > | >> > | >> > | >>_______________________________________________ > | >>Bodington-developers mailing list > | >>Bod...@li... > | >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | >> > | > > | > > | > > | > | > | -- > | ____________________________________ > | Colin Tatham > | VLE Team > | Oxford University Computing Services > | > | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > | http://bodington.org > | > | > | _______________________________________________ > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | Bod...@li... > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-06-08 12:51:27
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Done now. And links to blogs added - remove if you are unhappy. Add if you know of more (John Smith? Etc) adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Colin Tatham | Sent: 08 June 2006 13:37 | To: Bodington developers | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki? | | Sean Mehan wrote: | > +1 on the notes in. Being in, someone who is motivated can edit them as | > they go. | | ... or (more likely) we all ignore them. (I'm talking about the old notes | written by Jane) | | | > Speaking of vaccum: Colin, does everyone who has a name agaist some text | > in the 2.8 list have an account yet, and thus they are simply lazy, or | do | > they still need accounts?-) | | There's a list of all users at: | | http://bodington.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Listusers | | | | > <quote who="Adam Marshall"> | > | >>I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a | >>vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to refer | >>back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree! | >> | >>adam | >> | >>| -----Original Message----- | >>| From: bod...@li... | >>| [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf | Of | >>| Colin Tatham | >>| Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31 | >>| To: Bodington developers | >>| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki? | >>| | >>| Adam Marshall wrote: | >>| > I have meeting notes for | >>| > | >>| > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006 | >>| > | >>| > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no. | >>| | >>| I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes | >>difficult | >>| to relate to the topics | >>| discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and | >>| extracting only the relevant | >>| stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of content | >>in | >>| a dev wiki, I'm a fan of | >>| less is more...) | >>| | >>| | >>| Colin | >>| | >>| -- | >>| ____________________________________ | >>| Colin Tatham | >>| VLE Team | >>| Oxford University Computing Services | >>| | >>| http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ | >>| http://bodington.org | >>| | >>| | >>| _______________________________________________ | >>| Bodington-developers mailing list | >>| Bod...@li... | >>| https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | >> | >> | >> | >> | >>_______________________________________________ | >>Bodington-developers mailing list | >>Bod...@li... | >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | >> | > | > | > | | | -- | ____________________________________ | Colin Tatham | VLE Team | Oxford University Computing Services | | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ | http://bodington.org | | | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-06-08 12:37:18
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Sean Mehan wrote: > +1 on the notes in. Being in, someone who is motivated can edit them as > they go. ... or (more likely) we all ignore them. (I'm talking about the old notes written by Jane) > Speaking of vaccum: Colin, does everyone who has a name agaist some text > in the 2.8 list have an account yet, and thus they are simply lazy, or do > they still need accounts?-) There's a list of all users at: http://bodington.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Listusers > <quote who="Adam Marshall"> > >>I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a >>vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to refer >>back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree! >> >>adam >> >>| -----Original Message----- >>| From: bod...@li... >>| [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of >>| Colin Tatham >>| Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31 >>| To: Bodington developers >>| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki? >>| >>| Adam Marshall wrote: >>| > I have meeting notes for >>| > >>| > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006 >>| > >>| > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no. >>| >>| I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes >>difficult >>| to relate to the topics >>| discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and >>| extracting only the relevant >>| stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of content >>in >>| a dev wiki, I'm a fan of >>| less is more...) >>| >>| >>| Colin >>| >>| -- >>| ____________________________________ >>| Colin Tatham >>| VLE Team >>| Oxford University Computing Services >>| >>| http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ >>| http://bodington.org >>| >>| >>| _______________________________________________ >>| Bodington-developers mailing list >>| Bod...@li... >>| https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Bodington-developers mailing list >>Bod...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > > > -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-06-08 12:36:05
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ahh, come on. no one will read it anyway!-) s <quote who=3D"Colin Tatham"> > Adam Marshall wrote: >> I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a >> vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to ref= er >> back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree! > > OK. (I didn't say don't do it at all, I was saying they need some > digesting if we want the content > to be at all useful). > > It also implies that we're going to continue doing it -- there are > examples in WebLearn where > someone decided to put something up, but they don't maintain it, so aft= er > a short while it starts > looking worse than if there'd never been anything there at all! (Just > trying to suggest we > concentrate our efforts on the most worthwhile stuff). > > I think having meeting notes on the Wiki is a good idea, personally I > don't think those old ones are > worth adding... > > Colin > > >> | -----Original Message----- >> | From: bod...@li... >> | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behal= f >> Of >> | Colin Tatham >> | Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31 >> | To: Bodington developers >> | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki? >> | >> | Adam Marshall wrote: >> | > I have meeting notes for >> | > >> | > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006 >> | > >> | > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no. >> | >> | I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes >> difficult >> | to relate to the topics >> | discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and >> | extracting only the relevant >> | stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of conte= nt >> in >> | a dev wiki, I'm a fan of >> | less is more...) >> | >> | >> | Colin >> | >> | -- >> | ____________________________________ >> | Colin Tatham >> | VLE Team >> | Oxford University Computing Services >> | >> | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ >> | http://bodington.org >> | >> | >> | _______________________________________________ >> | Bodington-developers mailing list >> | Bod...@li... >> | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> > > > -- > ____________________________________ > Colin Tatham > VLE Team > Oxford University Computing Services > > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > http://bodington.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI |
From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-06-08 12:34:49
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I know Naomi gave something at http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/eo01nm/?p=3D3 as she was getting used to it all. Perhaps more along this line could be done. It is important to make it understandable from a non-tech perspective, if at all possible, as it should try to be so simple a teacher can do it!-) s <quote who=3D"Adam Marshall"> > I have added placeholders for user and admin documentation in the wiki = - > it > would be good to populate the links! > > Do UHI / Leeds have any links to add? > > An installation guide is an absolute must, does anybody have the > definitive > version? > > It would be good to extract useful stuff from the original bod.org and > house > it somewhere 'permanently' > > adam > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: Paul Davis [mailto:pau...@ou...] > | Sent: 08 June 2006 09:50 > | To: wl...@ma... > | Subject: [wl-team] FW: [rt.oucs.ox.ac.uk #971053] Message From > | Bodington.org - Bodington User Guide > | > | What could we offer? > | Paul > | > | > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > | Dr Paul V Davis > | Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group > | Marketing coordinator, Bodington.org > | Oxford University Computing Services > | 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN > | Tel: 01865 283414 > | > | > | > | > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: soc...@we... via RT > | [mailto:web...@rt...] > | Sent: 07 June 2006 19:59 > | To: 'AdminCc of rt.oucs.ox.ac.uk Ticket #971053': > | Subject: [rt.oucs.ox.ac.uk #971053] Message From Bodington.org - > Bodington > | User Guide > | > | <URL: https://rt.oucs.ox.ac.uk/Ticket/Display.html?id=3D971053 > > | > | Stephen O\'Connell (soc...@we...) from [Affiliat= ion > | Not > | Supplied] sent the following message: > | > | Hello > | > | > | > | We are currently considering implementing a Bodington VLE in our scho= ol. > | Is > | there an admin user guide available to download? > | > | > | > | Thanks > | > | Stephen O\'Connell > | > | Wellington School, Ayr > | > | > | > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI |