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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-08-31 07:00:27
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notes of alt teleconference with BB. They are poor, misunderstood souls. They didn't invent elearning, only the networked, technology neutral bits= . enjoy http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00sm/?p=3D231 s. |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-08-30 16:10:55
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Dearest bodders, it's been a while but now we're upgrading to 2.8 - does anyone know if there are db updates required since the last release? If so, any kind soul willing to donate any upgrade scripts? in return for a screech on the bagpipes from the fc when we come down mid sept? --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-08-29 13:57:14
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Sean Mehan wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> Exactly; how about sorting out the 2.8 tag instead of all this silliness!-) -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-08-25 09:40:59
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Begin forwarded message: > > |
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From: Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...> - 2006-08-18 13:03:37
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Just wondered where all the discussions were at the moment, are folks on strike? holiday? /me wonders if there is a link with the recent airline problems Cheers Sel :) -- Selwyn Lloyd Phosphorix Open Source Systems for Lifelong Learning skype: selwyn_lloyd tel: 07979240124 irc://irc.ionode.org support channel: #ionode support email: de...@ph... web: http://www.phosphorix.co.uk forum: http://forum.ionetwork.ac.uk |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-08-15 09:45:47
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http://noedupatents.org/ --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2006-08-10 14:24:43
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QMShibb is set to create a Perception account if it doesn't already exist, join the user into the 'Shibboleth Users' group and create a schedule for the test. So, since you used the Anonymous Internet User Route, there is now a Perception user called 'Anonymous Internet Us...@so...'. No big deal - it's not the production Perception server. Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Matthew Buckett Sent: 10 August 2006 15:18 To: Bodington developers Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] SOCKET demo Brian Peter Clark wrote: > Adam, > > Pursuant to your request, there is a socketized Bods demo at: > > http://socket.leeds.ac.uk/bodington/site/ > > Bodders are welcome to use the guest account: > > username: guest > pw: guest1 Anonymous Internet User seems to work too, although is it just keeping my guest session open on qmark.leeds.ac.uk? -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2006-08-10 14:18:18
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Brian Peter Clark wrote: > Adam, > > Pursuant to your request, there is a socketized Bods demo at: > > http://socket.leeds.ac.uk/bodington/site/ > > Bodders are welcome to use the guest account: > > username: guest > pw: guest1 Anonymous Internet User seems to work too, although is it just keeping my guest session open on qmark.leeds.ac.uk? -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ |
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From: Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...> - 2006-08-10 13:58:50
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Adam, Pursuant to your request, there is a socketized Bods demo at: http://socket.leeds.ac.uk/bodington/site/ Bodders are welcome to use the guest account: username: guest pw: guest1 The SOCKET links lead to the QMShibb sub-project and the main sub-project. The QMShibb page has shibbed links to a QuestionMark Perception test, a list of tests and the admin app (to which 'guest' will not have access). We have put up 2 SOCKET web services and a 'SOCKET web application'. (The create SOCKET service tool will not be visible to a guest user.) The web service producers are on an external server, while the consumer apps are in socket.leeds.ac.uk along with the bodington instance. Chemical Elements This is one of our test services. The stylesheets are development versions - we are making no claims that these are fit for teaching purposes. Jabber We have plugged in a Jabber applet which is served out from my (personal) remote server in a jsp. (The Jabber server uses an embedded Hypersonic. Wouldn't want any conflict with QuickBods.) I simply chose what looked like the simplest Jabber applet around: e4Applet 1.1.1 You can sign on with Jabber account: username: guest01 password: socket01 Or, if your name is Adam Marshall, username: adam password: socket1 You can join the following room: so...@co... No pw required. SSRun Although we will sign off with the ability to handle complex data types, the present socket engine handles simple datatypes only - strings, ints, floats, doubles, booleans, dates. (Client-side js validation comes as standard.) However, we have set up the JISC/Icodeon ASSIS/SSRun web service and passed the wsdl through the engine. The test data has not been loaded into the Web service and there are complex data types so the service is not functional, but this gives a basic impression of what the final turnkey product will do. As with Chemical Elements, there has been absolutely no tinkering with the Java, only some stylesheet tweaks (I added a fetching orange/yellow gradient fill to SSRun, for example). Two extremely valuable operations are working, though: ping and createRunId, proving that the service is live. We will be putting up a SOCKET development release soon, with perhaps a couple more over the next few weeks leading up to 1.0: simple types; arrays; complex types included. For further information: email me, sign into Jabber Bods and I'll be clayton. Regards, Brian |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-08-07 09:11:36
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> From: Sean Mehan > gawd, just when i was starting to respect you again!-)s (Sigh). These Scots. It's all the same... they never respect you in the morning ;-). - Peter |
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From: <bri...@bt...> - 2006-08-06 11:51:06
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Ah, that would be the time when I caught my foot under the front seat when entering the back seat of a taxi. The taxi took off with me one-leg-in-and-one-leg-out. I managed to hop like a mad thing for about ten yards before falling on my erse then seeing the rear left taxi tyre about 2 inches from my napper as I was dragged along for another 20 yards. The worst thing was that my three mates were in the taxi - all I could hear was laughing. Sheesh. Regards, Brian -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Andrew Booth Sent: 06 August 2006 12:02 To: 'Bodington developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket And I thought he'd gone to the Test Match on Friday - though there again, maybe not. It's not just trains. Tell 'em about the taxi Brian. Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of bri...@bt... Sent: 06 August 2006 09:42 To: 'Bodington developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket Strangely familiar. This is not the first time that I have done this. It was only the first time, however, that I was threatened by the Ticket Inspector to have to buy a ticket back to Leeds. I am an expert at sleeping past stops (which seems to coincide with the occasions on which I have packed a QB* for the trip home). I remember trying to get back to Leeds from Lancaster or Leicester (something with an L) once and ending up in Burton-on-Trent after sleeping past 2 connecting stations. (Preceded by me congratulating myself for waking up precisely at the correct time to alight at Birmingham only to discover I had got off at the Airport rather than New Street.) I emerged at Burton to be met by the railman waiting at the end of the platform with a big bunch of keys in his hand ready to lock the gates. At this point I admitted defeat and realized it was going to have to be a hotel - a =A320 taxi fare and =A3160 at a Holiday Inn. A sore one. =20 An even sorer one was when I was suffering from the gout at Paddington Station looking for a train to Little Marlowe. The Marlowe train departed from the platform furthest away from the main bit of the station. I missed 2 trains due to the fact that it took me longer to hobble to the platform than the time before departure that the train went up on the board. Old ladies laden down with shopping bags were knocking me over as they zoomed past. I was going to Marlowe to meet the great granddaughter of a hero of mine, Josiah Latimer Clark, a famous engineer (and inventor of the Clark Cell) from Little Marlowe, who was over from Australia. Needless to say, when I got there she had gone.=20 I don't travel on planes much. Regards, Brian *Perhaps this is a Scottish term: QB =3D quarter bottle. -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Sean Mehan Sent: 05 August 2006 21:42 To: Bodington developers Cc: 'Bodington developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket rotflol. what does leeds look like at 3am?-) s <quote who=3D"Adam Marshall"> > Well done that man! So was it Atif leading you all astray? ;) > > adam > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > | bri...@bt... > | Sent: 04 August 2006 16:37 > | To: 'Bodington developers' > | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket > | > | I got blootered last night in Manchester and ended up in York. Had to > | wait 90 minutes for the airport train to get me back to Leeds just > | before 3 am. So, That's why Paddy hasn't been to work today.. > | > | I'll set up a demo on Monday. > | > | Regards, > | > | Brian > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > | Adam Marshall > | Sent: 04 August 2006 15:23 > | To: 'Bodington developers' > | Subject: [Bodington-developers] socket > | > | Aggie / Brian / Atif / Rob / Uncle Tom Cobbley > | > | Do you have the URL for the socket demo? I'd love to have a look. > | > | adam > | > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > | - > | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2006-08-06 11:02:45
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And I thought he'd gone to the Test Match on Friday - though there = again, maybe not. It's not just trains. Tell 'em about the taxi Brian. Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of bri...@bt... Sent: 06 August 2006 09:42 To: 'Bodington developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket Strangely familiar. This is not the first time that I have done this. It was only the first time, however, that I was threatened by the Ticket Inspector to have to buy a ticket back to Leeds. I am an expert at sleeping past stops (which seems to coincide with the occasions on which I have packed a QB* for the trip home). I remember trying to get back to Leeds from Lancaster or Leicester (something with an L) once and ending up in Burton-on-Trent after sleeping past 2 connecting stations. (Preceded by me congratulating myself for waking up precisely at the correct time to alight at Birmingham only to discover I had got off at the Airport rather than New Street.) I emerged at Burton to be met by the railman waiting at the end of the platform with a big bunch of keys in his hand ready to lock the gates. At this point I admitted defeat and realized it was going to have to be a hotel - a =A320 taxi fare and =A3160 at a Holiday Inn. A sore one. =20 An even sorer one was when I was suffering from the gout at Paddington Station looking for a train to Little Marlowe. The Marlowe train departed from the platform furthest away from the main bit of the station. I missed 2 trains due to the fact that it took me longer to hobble to the platform than the time before departure that the train went up on the board. Old ladies laden down with shopping bags were knocking me over as they zoomed past. I was going to Marlowe to meet the great granddaughter of a hero of mine, Josiah Latimer Clark, a famous engineer (and inventor of the Clark Cell) from Little Marlowe, who was over from Australia. Needless to say, when I got there she had gone.=20 I don't travel on planes much. Regards, Brian *Perhaps this is a Scottish term: QB =3D quarter bottle. -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Sean Mehan Sent: 05 August 2006 21:42 To: Bodington developers Cc: 'Bodington developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket rotflol. what does leeds look like at 3am?-) s <quote who=3D"Adam Marshall"> > Well done that man! So was it Atif leading you all astray? ;) > > adam > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > | bri...@bt... > | Sent: 04 August 2006 16:37 > | To: 'Bodington developers' > | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket > | > | I got blootered last night in Manchester and ended up in York. Had to > | wait 90 minutes for the airport train to get me back to Leeds just > | before 3 am. So, That's why Paddy hasn't been to work today.. > | > | I'll set up a demo on Monday. > | > | Regards, > | > | Brian > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > | Adam Marshall > | Sent: 04 August 2006 15:23 > | To: 'Bodington developers' > | Subject: [Bodington-developers] socket > | > | Aggie / Brian / Atif / Rob / Uncle Tom Cobbley > | > | Do you have the URL for the socket demo? I'd love to have a look. > | > | adam > | > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > | - > | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > | Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > | your > | opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash > | http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDE > | V > | _______________________________________________ > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | Bod...@li... > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | > | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - > | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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From: <bri...@bt...> - 2006-08-06 08:41:59
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Strangely familiar. This is not the first time that I have done this. It was only the first time, however, that I was threatened by the Ticket Inspector to have to buy a ticket back to Leeds. I am an expert at sleeping past stops (which seems to coincide with the occasions on which I have packed a QB* for the trip home). I remember trying to get back to Leeds from Lancaster or Leicester (something with an L) once and ending up in Burton-on-Trent after sleeping past 2 connecting stations. (Preceded by me congratulating myself for waking up precisely at the correct time to alight at Birmingham only to discover I had got off at the Airport rather than New Street.) I emerged at Burton to be met by the railman waiting at the end of the platform with a big bunch of keys in his hand ready to lock the gates. At this point I admitted defeat and realized it was going to have to be a hotel - a =A320 taxi fare and =A3160 at a Holiday Inn. A sore one. =20 An even sorer one was when I was suffering from the gout at Paddington Station looking for a train to Little Marlowe. The Marlowe train departed from the platform furthest away from the main bit of the station. I missed 2 trains due to the fact that it took me longer to hobble to the platform than the time before departure that the train went up on the board. Old ladies laden down with shopping bags were knocking me over as they zoomed past. I was going to Marlowe to meet the great granddaughter of a hero of mine, Josiah Latimer Clark, a famous engineer (and inventor of the Clark Cell) from Little Marlowe, who was over from Australia. Needless to say, when I got there she had gone.=20 I don't travel on planes much. Regards, Brian *Perhaps this is a Scottish term: QB =3D quarter bottle. -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Sean Mehan Sent: 05 August 2006 21:42 To: Bodington developers Cc: 'Bodington developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket rotflol. what does leeds look like at 3am?-) s <quote who=3D"Adam Marshall"> > Well done that man! So was it Atif leading you all astray? ;) > > adam > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > | bri...@bt... > | Sent: 04 August 2006 16:37 > | To: 'Bodington developers' > | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket > | > | I got blootered last night in Manchester and ended up in York. Had to > | wait 90 minutes for the airport train to get me back to Leeds just > | before 3 am. So, That's why Paddy hasn't been to work today.. > | > | I'll set up a demo on Monday. > | > | Regards, > | > | Brian > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > | Adam Marshall > | Sent: 04 August 2006 15:23 > | To: 'Bodington developers' > | Subject: [Bodington-developers] socket > | > | Aggie / Brian / Atif / Rob / Uncle Tom Cobbley > | > | Do you have the URL for the socket demo? I'd love to have a look. > | > | adam > | > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > | - > | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > | Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > | your > | opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash > | http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDE > | V > | _______________________________________________ > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | Bod...@li... > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | > | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - > | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDE V > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-08-05 20:57:09
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gawd, just when i was starting to respect you again!-)s <quote who=3D"Peter Crowther"> >> From: Alistair Young >> I've got a bod dev meet down for 17-18 October. Is this still on > > Dunno, but I could also do with finding out as I could well be heavily > involved with a Microsoft proof-of-concept around that time. > > - Peter > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV_______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-08-05 20:42:09
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rotflol. what does leeds look like at 3am?-) s <quote who=3D"Adam Marshall"> > Well done that man! So was it Atif leading you all astray? ;) > > adam > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf= Of > | bri...@bt... > | Sent: 04 August 2006 16:37 > | To: 'Bodington developers' > | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket > | > | I got blootered last night in Manchester and ended up in York. Had t= o > | wait 90 minutes for the airport train to get me back to Leeds just > | before 3 am. So, That's why Paddy hasn't been to work today.. > | > | I'll set up a demo on Monday. > | > | Regards, > | > | Brian > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf= Of > | Adam Marshall > | Sent: 04 August 2006 15:23 > | To: 'Bodington developers' > | Subject: [Bodington-developers] socket > | > | Aggie / Brian / Atif / Rob / Uncle Tom Cobbley > | > | Do you have the URL for the socket demo? I'd love to have a look. > | > | adam > | > | > | > | > | ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > | - > | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > | Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to sha= re > | your > | opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn ca= sh > | http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CI= D=3DDEVDE > | V > | _______________________________________________ > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | Bod...@li... > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | > | > | > | > | > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > | Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to sha= re > | your > | opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn ca= sh > | > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV > | _______________________________________________ > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | Bod...@li... > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI --=20 Sean Mehan Head of e-Frameworks Learning and Information Services UHI |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-08-04 15:48:01
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Well done that man! So was it Atif leading you all astray? ;) adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | bri...@bt... | Sent: 04 August 2006 16:37 | To: 'Bodington developers' | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] socket | | I got blootered last night in Manchester and ended up in York. Had to | wait 90 minutes for the airport train to get me back to Leeds just | before 3 am. So, That's why Paddy hasn't been to work today.. | | I'll set up a demo on Monday. | | Regards, | | Brian | | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Adam Marshall | Sent: 04 August 2006 15:23 | To: 'Bodington developers' | Subject: [Bodington-developers] socket | | Aggie / Brian / Atif / Rob / Uncle Tom Cobbley | | Do you have the URL for the socket demo? I'd love to have a look. | | adam | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | - | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT | Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share | your | opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash | http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDE | V | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT | Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share | your | opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash | http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: <bri...@bt...> - 2006-08-04 15:36:51
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I got blootered last night in Manchester and ended up in York. Had to wait 90 minutes for the airport train to get me back to Leeds just before 3 am. So, That's why Paddy hasn't been to work today.. I'll set up a demo on Monday. Regards, Brian -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Adam Marshall Sent: 04 August 2006 15:23 To: 'Bodington developers' Subject: [Bodington-developers] socket Aggie / Brian / Atif / Rob / Uncle Tom Cobbley Do you have the URL for the socket demo? I'd love to have a look. adam ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDE V _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-08-04 14:25:29
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Aggie / Brian / Atif / Rob / Uncle Tom Cobbley Do you have the URL for the socket demo? I'd love to have a look. adam |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-08-04 09:25:12
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Yes still going ahead | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf = Of | Alistair Young | Sent: 03 August 2006 17:31 | To: Bodington developers | Subject: [Bodington-developers] bod dev meet oct |=20 | I've got a bod dev meet down for 17-18 October. Is this still on and = is it | going to be in Cornwall? Quite far off but I have to sort my diary = around | that time for other meetings. |=20 | -- | Alistair Young | Senior Software Engineer | UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig | Isle of Skye | Scotland |=20 |=20 |=20 | = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= | Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT | Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to = share | your | opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn = cash | = http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-08-03 22:02:44
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-08-03 16:31:28
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I've got a bod dev meet down for 17-18 October. Is this still on and is i= t going to be in Cornwall? Quite far off but I have to sort my diary around that time for other meetings. --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2006-08-03 09:13:55
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At the moment permission checks are done all over the place in Bodington. One layer that often does checks is the BuildingSession layer. Now I am wanting to call a method at the session layer that requires sysadmin permission but in this instance I want to allow a lesser user to make the call. I don't want to move the permission check to the Facility layer as this just leads to people calling the method and forgetting to perform the permission check, or performing a different permission check. So which route should I take: - Create another method that doesn't have the permission check. - Switch users before making the call? BuildingContext.setUser(). Should the BuildingContext have a running as property so that permission checks can be made against this user but the actions would be attributed to the correct user. This also might eventual be a route to allowing users to assume the identity of other users. -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-08-02 13:12:22
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Alistair Young wrote: > Jon, if your suspicions are correct and that the thread doesn't have > time to get ready, then adding more sleeps would presumably make it > worse? What happens if you remove them? Were they there to cure the > original problem which went away itself? > I find that the longer those sleeps are the less often the exceptions occur - my interpretation is that this allows the API's background threads to catch up with the API calls but it is hard to trace this kind of problem because the exceptions occur in the background thread are caught in the background thread and their stack trace refers to that thread. With a zero delay the exceptions come thick and fast. There's a limit to how much time I can put into studying this. In my personal opinion a good stable implementation of a network protocol should always report errors up to the application layer and not simply spew out stack traces on stderr and in the worst case silently freeze up. I have lost confidence in the Novell code. (By the way , can anyone find a bug reporting web site?) Another good reason to switch to the Sun LDAP provider is that it conforms to JNDI which is the directory equivalent of JDBC. That means if we ever experience problems with the Sun provider we can drop in another one without wasting time reprogramming to a new API - you just drop a jar file into the lib directory and edit the config file. Anyway, I realise that I'm in a minority of 1. The Leeds specific authenticator is now based on JNDI and I'm not going to switch it back to the Novell API because I need to get on with the next job. However, I'd be perfectly happy if someone else wants to rewrite it for release. Jon |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-08-02 09:12:46
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Jon, if your suspicions are correct and that the thread doesn't have time to get ready, then adding more sleeps would presumably make it worse? What happens if you remove them? Were they there to cure the original problem which went away itself? FWIW, the novell libs work fine on my laptop using openldap on localhost. Alistair On 1 Aug 2006, at 20:45, Jon Maber wrote: > Aggie, > for me its the setup with the ultrafast localhost connection from the > client to the server or the pretty damn fast campus connection that > throw exceptions. > I'm wondering whether its so fast that the Novell LDAP API timing > problems are more likely to occur.. > > Andrew Booth wrote: >> I have been testing from home via BT ADSL to the Leeds AD. >> >> My ADSL is currently running at 2272 Kb/s in and 288 Kb/s out. >> >> When I try it normally, I get exceptions and timeouts. >> > Presumably it just can't connect - the AD is firewalled against off > campus access. > You would get an exception on every single attempt to connect. >> When I go in through the University of Leeds VPN, it works fine. >> So I don't think it is related to the speed of the connection - it >> works >> fine at 288Kb/s. >> > My theory is that it fails on a fast e.g. 100Mbs ethernet connection > with low latency and works on slower response network but not on every > attempt to connect - it's random. >> Are you sure that this isn't something to do with the Leeds firewall? >> >> Aggie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...] On >> Behalf Of Jon >> Maber >> Sent: 01 August 2006 18:24 >> To: a.g...@le...; Bodington developers >> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] More LDAP Fun and Games >> >> It's not the LDAP server that's the problem - my test fails against >> OpenLDAP and AD directories. It's the client side that is dodgy. From >> home I don't have access to any AD directories so I'm testing against >> OpenLDAP. >> >> Andrew Booth wrote: >> >>> OpenLDAP? >>> >>> I thought we were testing the LDAP in AD. >>> >>> Aggie >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bod...@li... >>> [mailto:bod...@li...] On >>> Behalf Of >>> >> Jon >> >>> Maber >>> Sent: 01 August 2006 17:16 >>> To: Bodington developers >>> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] More LDAP Fun and Games >>> >>> I've got two near identical test scenarios - one throws >>> exceptions the >>> other doesn't; >>> >>> 1) Both access the same OpenLDAP server >>> 2) Both running linux although slightly different kernel numbers. >>> (one >>> that fails is newer) >>> 3) Both running the same release of the same version of Java >>> 4) Both using the same compiled test class and the same jar files >>> - not >>> merely the same version but the same files on a single shared >>> network >>> >> drive. >> >>> The only significant difference is that the one that fails has a >>> faster >>> network link to the LDAP server than the one that doesn't fail. >>> >>> Peter Crowther wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> From: Andrew Booth >>>>> OK - I've downloaded the latest jar file and recompiled the >>>>> test stuff. >>>>> >>>>> Still works OK. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> That seems to exclude my idea, then. Good - one fewer area to >>>> test :-). >>>> >>>> - Peter >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ------ >>>> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >>>> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance >>>> to share >>>> >>>> >>> your >>> >>> >>>> opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and >>>> earn cash >>>> http://www.techsay.com/default.php? >>>> page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bodington-developers mailing list >>>> Bod...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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From: Ian B. <ia...@ca...> - 2006-08-01 20:12:01
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You might like to add, if you haven't already that BB have signed the IMS-CommonCartridge declaration along with Microsoft, D2L and others. Steve Lay, if he is on this list, can clarify, but there are some obligations under that agreement that have an impact on patents that interfere with the IMS Common cartridge. Im not certain if its 100% relevant. Another thought, if your VLE or Course Management System is not a VLE or CMS, but really a virtual research environment.... what happens ? BTW, sakai-dev has blackboard employees as members, are there any in Bodington or Tetra lists..... perhaps they could voice an opinion?... or give some guidance :) (go on... you know you want to) Ian Sean Mehan wrote: > I have blogged some info on this, from Bb, from some observers, from > the US patent office. This is crazy stuff, and as some have pointed > out, very dangerous for many of us. > > http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00sm/?p=229 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Tetraelf-developers mailing list > Tet...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tetraelf-developers |
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