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From: Atif S. <BM...@bm...> - 2005-07-11 15:40:51
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Hi > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1230375&group_id=87659&atid=583929 > > > Does anyone have a recent copy of Bodington running with Oracle? > As it seems that Bodington is searching for table in the whole > database when it should only be looking in a specific schema. This is > then causing problems with a conflict of of the jobs table (both > bodington and oracle want one). > Sorry I don't have Oracle running on my Guanxi Linux WORK machine. The last time I worked with Oracle was 10 months ago at my previous contract at the Department of Health (DOH). I have GOOD memories of my first job after graduation at the DOH. I learnt allot at the DOH. If you want I could look at this sometime in August, when my Guanxi workload will be little lighter. Ta Atif. |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-07-11 15:00:08
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Should this be updated on head with new location for dtds? > I'm on the case (as per this mail and the recent video-conference!). -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | Alexis O'Connor, VLE Developer (http://bodington.org) | | OUCS, 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK. | | Tel. +44 (0)1865 283661 | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-11 12:44:23
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Should this be updated on head with new location for dtds? |
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From: Paul T. <pau...@co...> - 2005-07-11 12:36:19
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At 13:03 11/07/2005, Alistair Young wrote: >>what would the wages be? < ... > >It's also the case that the contributor does the maintenance. This is an important point, I think, and in practice I guess would need the weight of a production level deployment in that language. >Of course, bodington.org identifying a target audience that could >dramatically increase it's takeup and allocating funds for >translations to target that market is another matter entirely. > >So the question is, will Bod in Thai make a difference to usage >commensurate with financial outlay? At this stage, one extra Bodington service at any University in any language would be a significant boost, but in general French and Spanish are of course far more widespread and worth extra Euros... - Paul >Alistair > > > >On 11 Jul 2005, at 12:42, Paul Trafford wrote: > >>I recently asked a friend from Thailand (researcher in computer >>science) whether he knew anyone who might like to translate >>Bodington into Thai. His first question was: what would the wages be? >> >>So what are the arrangements? Is there some financial provision? >>Does it depend upon the language? What happens about the support? >> >>- Paul >> >>---- >>Paul Trafford >>VLE Administrator >>Oxford University Computing Services >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar >>happening >>July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in >>dual >>core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event >>hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/ >>go/dualwebinar >>_______________________________________________ >>Bodington-developers mailing list >>Bod...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar happening >July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dual >core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by >HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar >_______________________________________________ >Bodington-developers mailing list >Bod...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers ></x-flowed> |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-07-11 12:03:07
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> what would the wages be? it's open source - there are no wages! If someone wants it in their language they translate it. They can then decide to gift those translations back to the community. I haven't heard of an open source project paying for contributions. It's also the case that the contributor does the maintenance. Of course, bodington.org identifying a target audience that could dramatically increase it's takeup and allocating funds for translations to target that market is another matter entirely. So the question is, will Bod in Thai make a difference to usage commensurate with financial outlay? Alistair On 11 Jul 2005, at 12:42, Paul Trafford wrote: > I recently asked a friend from Thailand (researcher in computer > science) whether he knew anyone who might like to translate > Bodington into Thai. His first question was: what would the wages be? > > So what are the arrangements? Is there some financial provision? > Does it depend upon the language? What happens about the support? > > - Paul > > ---- > Paul Trafford > VLE Administrator > Oxford University Computing Services > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar > happening > July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in > dual > core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event > hosted by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/ > go/dualwebinar > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Paul T. <pau...@co...> - 2005-07-11 11:42:31
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I recently asked a friend from Thailand (researcher in computer science) whether he knew anyone who might like to translate Bodington into Thai. His first question was: what would the wages be? So what are the arrangements? Is there some financial provision? Does it depend upon the language? What happens about the support? - Paul ---- Paul Trafford VLE Administrator Oxford University Computing Services |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-07-11 09:52:53
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As I mentioned in an earlier post the current WebLearn builds have some changes to the way configuration is done and I thought I should outline them: SetupServlet no longer blats values with defaults. ================================================== It is currently the case that if you configure Bodington (through SetupServlet) then edit bodington.properties to change some values that can't be configured through SetupServlet the next time you run SetupServlet these values will get overritten. I have changed SetupServlet so that it only sets defulat values in the configuration file that don't have an existing value. Splitting of bodington.properties. ================================== At the moment the bodington.properties file is the only place for configuration information. This causes problems in that at the moment SetupServlet sets default values in the main properties file and then when we come to an upgrade we can't easily tell if it is safe to change them. In WebLearn HEAD I have configuration commit from 3 places: - bodington-default.properties: This file contains the defaults that SetupServlet used to set. It is wrapped up into the bodserver.jar and shouldn't be edited on any installs. - context properties: I have code in the ContextListener the puts any parameters found in the context as Bodington properties. This allows automatic setup of a bodington install by using deploy time context parameters (context.xml in Tomcat world). - bodington.properties: This is the normaly bodington properties file that contains only the configuration information set by the user. These three property sources are chained with the first value being returned and the parent being consulted only if these isn't a value set: bodington.properties -> context properties -> bodington-defaults Existing bodington.properties files should continue to work but new ones will only contain properties the user has configured. This is not seen as a good long term solution but goes some way to making configuration easier to manage. Any comments about me pushing these changes over to Bodington HEAD? The reaons for this is that they are related to the Quickstart WAR. -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-07-11 08:32:51
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http://www.jisc.ac.uk/index.cfm?name=3Dscottish_funding_council_initnews0= 80705 =A36 million allocated by Scottish Funding Councils for e-learning 8 Jul 2005 JISC will be managing six new projects which will put to the test conclusions made about e-learning in Further and Higher education. = Through =A36 million funding from the Scottish Funding Councils for Further and = Higher Education, the activities will include: * Materials development to enable innovative course delivery, particularly in Higher National, modern and apprentice degree courses * Examine the use of new approaches to assessment * Encourage partnerships between FE and HE institutions, for mutual benefit As well as offering direct benefits to hosting institutions and the education community at large, the projects should enable links between = the Scottish funding councils and JISC, in particular its advisory services. For more details, see the official media release=20 =20 =09 -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated)=20 |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-07-08 11:16:03
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Antony Corfield wrote: >>> The proper solution is to upgrade Bod to use a newer schema -- anyone >>> have views about whether IMS LOM is a good/bad idea? > > > Well it's a bloody big set of elements for a start ;-) > How about simple Dublin Core -15 elements- which map to LOM > http://dublincore.org/documents/usageguide/ Agree that LOM looks like a nightmare. I've never liked Dublin Core, but maybe I'm the only person in the world who doesn't! We've looked at a content package from WebCT, and it's in LOM. (Dunno if that was an option in exporting...) I think Peter's right about the spec Jon was writing to: http://www.imsglobal.org/metadata/mdbindv1p1.html I'm going to add my keyword (and contributor) elements following that spec, and then maybe re-visit whether we change it, or allow Bod to handle multiple schemas later... Colin > >> BuildingSessionImpl::importMetadata presupposes a top-level metadata >> element named "record" in imported metadata, and will fail if that is >> not found (BuildingSessionImpl:1450). > > > Yep *Not* good - should really parse against a given schema! > > > >> BuildingSessionImpl::updateBasicMetadata *also* presupposes a top-level >> metadata element named "record" in imported metadata, and will fail if >> that is not found (BuildingSessionImpl:1763). That's called from >> createconfirm in Facility, which would seem pretty key to a running >> Bodington! >> >> - Peter >> |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-07-07 16:44:13
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> From: Alexis O'Connor=20 > I don't want to eat my greens or come into work ... I'll suspend 'want' for the day and settle for 'content to be alive and uninjured'. A couple of years ago I worked on the 9th floor of the tower block that straddles Edgeware Road tube station. I don't know what one does if there's a bomb scare in the tube station - leave everyone in a tower block that could collapse from the blast, or get them out into the street, possibly nearer any falling glass? My wife would pretty much have been on the train at Aldgate coming into work. We're both a little... shaken, I guess. All the best to anyone who knows people in the central London area - which will be most of us, I suspect. - Peter |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-07-07 16:33:54
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> I think we all need a beer! We can have a virtual one on Monday... Antony Corfield wrote: > I think we all need a beer! > > On 7 Jul 2005, at 17:19, Alexis O'Connor wrote: > >> Antony Corfield wrote: >> >>> On 7 Jul 2005, at 16:36, Alexis O'Connor wrote: >>> You mean it's just a coincidence the Facility nos. in properties map >>> to the resource type in Resource! >> >> >> The "mapping" is a hard-coded switch statement. It's entirely true >> that if one was to change the facility numbers or class names (in the >> properties file) then this method would break dramatically, but other >> than that I'm completely clueless as to what you're on about !?! >> >>> Don't want to build a WAR or use the installer ;-) >>> >> >> I don't want to eat my greens or come into work ... >> >> Alexis >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies >> from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, >> informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to >> speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-07-07 16:33:31
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Antony Corfield wrote: > I think we all need a beer! Well said. I think I stoped understanding this thread about half an hour ago.... -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-07 16:29:47
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I think we all need a beer! On 7 Jul 2005, at 17:19, Alexis O'Connor wrote: > Antony Corfield wrote: >> On 7 Jul 2005, at 16:36, Alexis O'Connor wrote: >> You mean it's just a coincidence the Facility nos. in properties map >> to the resource type in Resource! > > The "mapping" is a hard-coded switch statement. It's entirely true > that if one was to change the facility numbers or class names (in the > properties file) then this method would break dramatically, but other > than that I'm completely clueless as to what you're on about !?! > >> Don't want to build a WAR or use the installer ;-) >> > > I don't want to eat my greens or come into work ... > > Alexis > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-07-07 16:19:58
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Antony Corfield wrote: > On 7 Jul 2005, at 16:36, Alexis O'Connor wrote: > > You mean it's just a coincidence the Facility nos. in properties map to > the resource type in Resource! > The "mapping" is a hard-coded switch statement. It's entirely true that if one was to change the facility numbers or class names (in the properties file) then this method would break dramatically, but other than that I'm completely clueless as to what you're on about !?! > > > Don't want to build a WAR or use the installer ;-) > I don't want to eat my greens or come into work ... Alexis |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-07 16:16:14
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Should have said 'Don't *need* to... >> Don't want to build a WAR or use the installer ;-) > > Sounds like you need my Quickstart WAR ;-) |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-07-07 16:10:22
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Antony Corfield wrote: >> >> If you use the build.xml, you can run the create-war target to build >> the war. Deploy this to tomcat and then visit http://[host >> name]/bodington/setup/ to run SetupServlet. No need to run the >> command-line installer! > > > Don't want to build a WAR or use the installer ;-) Sounds like you need my Quickstart WAR ;-) -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Paul D. <pau...@co...> - 2005-07-07 16:05:36
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Dublin Core seems much more common and less unwieldy Paul Paul Davis 01865 283414 -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham Sent: 07 July 2005 16:21 To: Bodington Developers Subject: [Bodington-developers] Resource metadata schema Looks like the metadata schema that Bodington uses to describe resources (Title, Description, etc.) has been replaced by IMS LOM: http://www.imsglobal.org/metadata/index.html I'm wanting to add keywords (and an author) to the metadata, to allow the search tool to search on keywords, but I can't find the schema that Bod conforms to... The proper solution is to upgrade Bod to use a newer schema -- anyone have views about whether IMS LOM is a good/bad idea? Colin -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-07 16:03:56
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On 7 Jul 2005, at 16:36, Alexis O'Connor wrote: > The method mapHttpFacilityNoToResourceType() in Resource is used to > enable a resource to ascertain what kind of resource it is. It doesn't > have anything to do with the facility-number mapping in > bodington.properties. You mean it's just a coincidence the Facility nos. in properties map to the resource type in Resource! > > If you use the build.xml, you can run the create-war target to build > the war. Deploy this to tomcat and then visit http://[host > name]/bodington/setup/ to run SetupServlet. No need to run the > command-line installer! Don't want to build a WAR or use the installer ;-) |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-07 15:58:37
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>> From: Colin Tatham >> Looks like the metadata schema that Bodington uses to >> describe resources >> (Title, Description, etc.) has been replaced by IMS LOM: >> >> http://www.imsglobal.org/metadata/index.html >> >> The proper solution is to upgrade Bod to use a newer schema -- anyone >> have views about whether IMS LOM is a good/bad idea? Well it's a bloody big set of elements for a start ;-) How about simple Dublin Core -15 elements- which map to LOM http://dublincore.org/documents/usageguide/ > BuildingSessionImpl::importMetadata presupposes a top-level metadata > element named "record" in imported metadata, and will fail if that is > not found (BuildingSessionImpl:1450). Yep *Not* good - should really parse against a given schema! > BuildingSessionImpl::updateBasicMetadata *also* presupposes a = top-level > metadata element named "record" in imported metadata, and will fail if > that is not found (BuildingSessionImpl:1763). That's called from > createconfirm in Facility, which would seem pretty key to a running > Bodington! > > - Peter > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id=16492&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-07-07 15:39:01
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Ok, I see that we now have mapHttpFacilityNoToResourceType method in > Resource so I guess Facilities can come out of bodington.properties but > for now I'll leave them all in there and you can sort it out as you move > the weblearn code over. > > Thanks, > Antony > The method mapHttpFacilityNoToResourceType() in Resource is used to enable a resource to ascertain what kind of resource it is. It doesn't have anything to do with the facility-number mapping in bodington.properties. If you use the build.xml, you can run the create-war target to build the war. Deploy this to tomcat and then visit http://[host name]/bodington/setup/ to run SetupServlet. No need to run the command-line installer! Alexis |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-07-07 15:37:39
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> From: Colin Tatham=20 > Looks like the metadata schema that Bodington uses to=20 > describe resources=20 > (Title, Description, etc.) has been replaced by IMS LOM: >=20 > http://www.imsglobal.org/metadata/index.html Looks like it. > I'm wanting to add keywords (and an author) to the metadata, to allow=20 > the search tool to search on keywords, but I can't find the=20 > schema that Bod conforms to... IMSMD v1.1 I *think*. I didn't examine this area in detail when modifying the CP import/export code. http://www.imsglobal.org/metadata/mdbindv1p1.html > The proper solution is to upgrade Bod to use a newer schema -- anyone=20 > have views about whether IMS LOM is a good/bad idea? The entertaining thing here is that the content package import extracts the metadata from the content package and sets that as the metadata for the imported resource. If that's in an odd format, Bod may fail completely to update its own metadata. LOM probably counts as an odd format, at present! Let's see... <rummage> BuildingSessionImpl::importMetadata presupposes a top-level metadata element named "record" in imported metadata, and will fail if that is not found (BuildingSessionImpl:1450). BuildingSessionImpl::updateBasicMetadata *also* presupposes a top-level metadata element named "record" in imported metadata, and will fail if that is not found (BuildingSessionImpl:1763). That's called from createconfirm in Facility, which would seem pretty key to a running Bodington! - Peter |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-07-07 15:19:28
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Looks like the metadata schema that Bodington uses to describe resources (Title, Description, etc.) has been replaced by IMS LOM: http://www.imsglobal.org/metadata/index.html I'm wanting to add keywords (and an author) to the metadata, to allow the search tool to search on keywords, but I can't find the schema that Bod conforms to... The proper solution is to upgrade Bod to use a newer schema -- anyone have views about whether IMS LOM is a good/bad idea? Colin -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-07-07 15:14:49
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Ok, I see that we now have mapHttpFacilityNoToResourceType method in > Resource so I guess Facilities can come out of bodington.properties but > for now I'll leave them all in there and you can sort it out as you move > the weblearn code over. I think the bodington properties file still needs to associate a facility shortname with the facility ID and class. But Alexis probably knows more about this as it's his code. -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-07 15:08:13
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Ok, I see that we now have mapHttpFacilityNoToResourceType method in Resource so I guess Facilities can come out of bodington.properties but for now I'll leave them all in there and you can sort it out as you move the weblearn code over. Thanks, Antony > Sorry didn't see this. > >>> I also change Bodington so that some properties no longer need to be >>> defined for Bodington to run (hostname, ports, etc). >> where are these defined? > > Sorry for the confusion, I should have said this code isn't yet on > Bodington HEAD but should be there before the 2.6 release. > > I get these values from the request. You are still free to redefine > them in your bodington.properties (and you need to if you want > EventMailer to work) but there no longer is a requirement on them > being defined before bodington will run. > > -- > +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ > | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | > | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | > +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-07-07 14:58:05
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Antony Corfield wrote: Sorry didn't see this. >> I also change Bodington so that some properties no longer need to be >> defined for Bodington to run (hostname, ports, etc). > > where are these defined? Sorry for the confusion, I should have said this code isn't yet on Bodington HEAD but should be there before the 2.6 release. I get these values from the request. You are still free to redefine them in your bodington.properties (and you need to if you want EventMailer to work) but there no longer is a requirement on them being defined before bodington will run. -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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