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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2007-07-18 10:35:04
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my suspiscion is yes, but I don't think that they could be independent. I have submitted a ticket to sf help. If not, then we could get bod to svn and make the old head a branch. s On 18 Jul 2007, at 01:16, Jon Maber wrote: > Lastly, a question for anyone who knows Sourceforge: if I set up > an svn > repository can the cvs one keep going in parallel? I think that might > be ideal: I'd leave the cvs tree alone but import the Oxford svn into > sourceforge and work on that - first applying patches one by one from > the cvs tree and then working on changes that I need. If that isn't > possible then I suppose I could create a new SourceForge project for > this purpose: Boxingford, Oxbod, TheContinuityBOD, KNob = Knob is > NOt > Bodington. |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2007-07-18 09:09:36
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we consistently used sf, i'm afraid. it was a source of irritation and frustration for UHI at least that we weren't all together. All hail trunk in Sakai! s On 18 Jul 2007, at 01:16, Jon Maber wrote: > Are there other cvs/svn trees out there with even more source code in? > Aggie? Sean? |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2007-07-18 08:50:14
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Yes - it's python, using the Django framework. The reason is that I'm trying to create a version of bod that runs either on small devices (PDAs, phones) or can run from a pen drive. The idea being to have each student carrying their own learning resources and then syncing with the central database as appropriate. J2ME is too feature poor, but Python 2.5 runs nicely under Windows Mobile. I looked at Ruby, but couldn't find a version for Windows Mobile. Anyway, Python works nicely and has a very full library that comes with the standard installation. I have the core of Bodington working and have just finished a Guanxi Guard. I have the database, webserver, Bodington and the Guanxi guard running nicely on an old iPaq 5500 and, via Movable Python, from a USB pen drive (with no code installed on the PC). It's early days, but it looks promising... The Django framework is very easy to use and so I've ditched the Bodington templates. There is now no HTML at all generated by the code and the templates contain no embedded calls to the code. A much smaller Facility class and MVC at last! This means that skinning is much easier and the HTML templates can easily be replaced by XML or anything else. -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Adam Marshall Sent: 18 July 2007 09:31 To: a.g...@le...; 'Bodington developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington and WebLearn code | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | | Jon | | | At the moment, as you know, I'm writing Bodington code, but not in Java. I | use the Bodington HEAD as a reference. | Python is it? Have you looked at Ruby On rails? There's some pretty impressive movies on the website showing Blog servers being written from scratch in 10 minutes. How long for Bodington? About a month? Adam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-07-18 08:30:51
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| -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | | Jon | | | At the moment, as you know, I'm writing Bodington code, but not in Java. I | use the Bodington HEAD as a reference. | Python is it? Have you looked at Ruby On rails? There's some pretty impressive movies on the website showing Blog servers being written from scratch in 10 minutes. How long for Bodington? About a month? Adam |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2007-07-18 06:57:22
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Jon, we use(d) bod head + cherry pick from ox + in house no use outside stuff. The only stuff we have that isn't in head is SRS integration and reporting. Alistair -------------- mov eax,1 mov ebx,0 int 80h On 18 Jul 2007, at 01:16, Jon Maber wrote: > O.K. I hadn't realised it was quite that far out of synch. In which > case it might be better for me to work out what has changed in > sourceforge since the divergence and patch that onto the Oxford > version > to produce a new svn archive for my use. It would be helpful if you > could answer two questions; > > 1) What was the approximate date that your svn started to diverge from > sourceforge's cvs? If I know that, I can examine checked in > changes to > Sourceforge from that date to the present and produce some patches > that > can be applied to the current Oxford version to produce a merged > version. > 2) Do you think there are any things that you added to the Oxford > localized version that are intended for use only at Oxford and which > might cause problems for others? For example, you have an > authentication system that is linked into the Oxford webauth - is that > done as a nice friendly module which can be configured in or out or is > it hardwired in? That's the sort of thing I'm thinking about. > > Are there other cvs/svn trees out there with even more source code in? > Aggie? Sean? > > Aggie, are you producing new code that you want to check into > Sourceforge? Is that why you would prefer me not to check stuff in at > the moment? > > Lastly, a question for anyone who knows Sourceforge: if I set up > an svn > repository can the cvs one keep going in parallel? I think that might > be ideal: I'd leave the cvs tree alone but import the Oxford svn into > sourceforge and work on that - first applying patches one by one from > the cvs tree and then working on changes that I need. If that isn't > possible then I suppose I could create a new SourceForge project for > this purpose: Boxingford, Oxbod, TheContinuityBOD, KNob = Knob is > NOt > Bodington. > > Some examples of things I want to add: > *) Configurable sysadmin option for new user names to be anything you > want (when not using administrative zones) or prefixed with a code for > the admin zone or suffixed with @domain.ac.uk per admin zone. > *) Option for use of multiple virtual host names at the top level - > requires work on resource menus and the addition of a new type of > resource 'network' at the root with 'site' at the next level down. > *) New optional authentication module: provide email address and > password. Depending on which site the URL refers to the form will > assume the second half of the email address. Option for user to > request > new password - which will be sent to their email address. > *) Addition of another cookie as part of the authentication with wider > scope - the whole of the domain. This is to provide single sign on > for > users who access more than one virtual host name - i.e. navigate > between > the sites of different colleges. > *) Option for user creation tool to send email to each new user with > their password in. > *) Improved management of aliases. > *) Addition of a new resource which is just a 'folder' - folders > will be > allowed anywhere from sites down so that a site can be built just > out of > folders if the users aren't interested in the building metaphor. > *) WebDAV functionality so that users can drag and drop files to and > from Bodington using any WebDAV compliant tool. I think this might > also > require some restructuring of the way uploaded files are stored. > > Jon > > > Paul Davis wrote: >> If it was an hour or two, or a day or two we'd have synched >> frequently, but >> I believe we'd be talking months of work and that wouldn't give us >> any >> benefit I'm afraid. >> >> Adam's suggestion of using Weblearn code as your new core seems >> reasonable >> to me - it's been updated, has bug fixes, has a reasonable level >> of user >> testing - which is probably well ahead of any other version currently >> >> Paul >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> Dr Paul V Davis >> Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group >> Marketing coordinator, Bodington.org >> Oxford University Computing Services >> 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN >> Tel: 01865 283414 >> >> % -----Original Message----- >> % From: bod...@li... >> % [mailto:bod...@li...] On >> Behalf Of >> % Jon Maber >> % Sent: 17 July 2007 13:41 >> % To: Bodington developers >> % Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington and WebLearn code >> % >> % What I had in mind was to put Oxford bug fixes into the >> sourceforge CVS >> % at HEAD and to work on new features in my own file store. As I >> complete >> % each new feature I can make a Bodington build available for >> approval for >> % inclusion into the official source tree. >> % >> % Adam, do you think you could devote an hour or two to reviewing >> your own >> % code repository to reassess the option that you might find time to >> % commit it yourselves? I will work on it if that's the only >> option but I >> % can't help thinking that the authors of the code might find the job >> % easier. Maybe Paul Davis could fund some overtime.... ;-) >> % >> % Jon >> % >> % Alexis O'Connor wrote: >> % > Matthew Buckett wrote: >> % > >> % >> In message >> % <510...@HE...> >> % >> a.g...@le..., Bodington developers >> % >> <bod...@li...> writes: >> % >> >> % >> >> % >>> Just to let you know that in FBS at Leeds we are still using >> the code >> % from >> % >>> SourceForge, so anything that beaks that would be bad news >> for us. >> % >>> >> % >>> Jon - it might be best for you to set up your own CVS >> repository, at >> % least >> % >>> initially. >> % >>> >> % >>> >> % >> Could you just work on a branch in the SF CVS, at least then >> most of >> % the code >> % >> remains in the same place rather than getting more fragmented. >> % >> >> % >> >> % >> >> % > >> % > Another branch certainly. It may even be an opportune time to >> switch to >> % > using svn at sourceforge? >> % > >> % > Alexis >> % > >> % > >> % > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> % - >> % > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> % > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> % > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> % > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> % > _______________________________________________ >> % > Bodington-developers mailing list >> % > Bod...@li... >> % > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> % > >> % > >> % >> % >> % >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> % This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> % Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> % control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> % http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> % _______________________________________________ >> % Bodington-developers mailing list >> % Bod...@li... >> % https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2007-07-18 06:25:40
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Jon We have our own repository in FBS at Leeds, but we sync it periodically = with Bodington HEAD. At the end of each academic year, we download HEAD and = then merge the code with our current stuff. Very occasionally, we have a = mooch through the Oxford repository, but it's now so far out of sync with the = SF stuff... At the moment, as you know, I'm writing Bodington code, but not in Java. = I use the Bodington HEAD as a reference. ___________________________________________________ Andrew G Booth National Teaching Fellow Professor of Online Learning Institute of Life Science Education Faculty of Biological Sciences Garstang Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT U.K. Tel: +44-113-343-3142 ___________________________________________________ No Education Patents Boycott Blackboard http://www.noedupatents.org/ ___________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of = Jon Maber Sent: 18 July 2007 01:16 To: Bodington developers Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington and WebLearn code O.K. I hadn't realised it was quite that far out of synch. In which=20 case it might be better for me to work out what has changed in=20 sourceforge since the divergence and patch that onto the Oxford version=20 to produce a new svn archive for my use. It would be helpful if you=20 could answer two questions; 1) What was the approximate date that your svn started to diverge from=20 sourceforge's cvs? If I know that, I can examine checked in changes to=20 Sourceforge from that date to the present and produce some patches that=20 can be applied to the current Oxford version to produce a merged = version. 2) Do you think there are any things that you added to the Oxford=20 localized version that are intended for use only at Oxford and which=20 might cause problems for others? For example, you have an=20 authentication system that is linked into the Oxford webauth - is that=20 done as a nice friendly module which can be configured in or out or is=20 it hardwired in? That's the sort of thing I'm thinking about. Are there other cvs/svn trees out there with even more source code in? = Aggie? Sean? Aggie, are you producing new code that you want to check into=20 Sourceforge? Is that why you would prefer me not to check stuff in at=20 the moment? Lastly, a question for anyone who knows Sourceforge: if I set up an svn = repository can the cvs one keep going in parallel? I think that might=20 be ideal: I'd leave the cvs tree alone but import the Oxford svn into=20 sourceforge and work on that - first applying patches one by one from=20 the cvs tree and then working on changes that I need. If that isn't=20 possible then I suppose I could create a new SourceForge project for=20 this purpose: Boxingford, Oxbod, TheContinuityBOD, KNob =3D Knob is = NOt=20 Bodington. Some examples of things I want to add: *) Configurable sysadmin option for new user names to be anything you=20 want (when not using administrative zones) or prefixed with a code for=20 the admin zone or suffixed with @domain.ac.uk per admin zone. *) Option for use of multiple virtual host names at the top level -=20 requires work on resource menus and the addition of a new type of=20 resource 'network' at the root with 'site' at the next level down. *) New optional authentication module: provide email address and=20 password. Depending on which site the URL refers to the form will=20 assume the second half of the email address. Option for user to request = new password - which will be sent to their email address. *) Addition of another cookie as part of the authentication with wider=20 scope - the whole of the domain. This is to provide single sign on for=20 users who access more than one virtual host name - i.e. navigate between = the sites of different colleges. *) Option for user creation tool to send email to each new user with=20 their password in. *) Improved management of aliases. *) Addition of a new resource which is just a 'folder' - folders will be = allowed anywhere from sites down so that a site can be built just out of = folders if the users aren't interested in the building metaphor. *) WebDAV functionality so that users can drag and drop files to and=20 from Bodington using any WebDAV compliant tool. I think this might also = require some restructuring of the way uploaded files are stored. Jon Paul Davis wrote: > If it was an hour or two, or a day or two we'd have synched = frequently, but > I believe we'd be talking months of work and that wouldn't give us any > benefit I'm afraid. > > Adam's suggestion of using Weblearn code as your new core seems = reasonable > to me - it's been updated, has bug fixes, has a reasonable level of = user > testing - which is probably well ahead of any other version currently > > Paul > > = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= > Dr Paul V Davis > Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group > Marketing coordinator, Bodington.org > Oxford University Computing Services > 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN > Tel: 01865 283414 > > % -----Original Message----- > % From: bod...@li... > % [mailto:bod...@li...] On = Behalf Of > % Jon Maber > % Sent: 17 July 2007 13:41 > % To: Bodington developers > % Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington and WebLearn code > %=20 > % What I had in mind was to put Oxford bug fixes into the sourceforge = CVS > % at HEAD and to work on new features in my own file store. As I = complete > % each new feature I can make a Bodington build available for approval = for > % inclusion into the official source tree. > %=20 > % Adam, do you think you could devote an hour or two to reviewing your = own > % code repository to reassess the option that you might find time to > % commit it yourselves? I will work on it if that's the only option = but I > % can't help thinking that the authors of the code might find the job > % easier. Maybe Paul Davis could fund some overtime.... ;-) > %=20 > % Jon > %=20 > % Alexis O'Connor wrote: > % > Matthew Buckett wrote: > % > > % >> In message > % <510...@HE...> > % >> a.g...@le..., Bodington developers > % >> <bod...@li...> writes: > % >> > % >> > % >>> Just to let you know that in FBS at Leeds we are still using the code > % from > % >>> SourceForge, so anything that beaks that would be bad news for = us. > % >>> > % >>> Jon - it might be best for you to set up your own CVS = repository, at > % least > % >>> initially. > % >>> > % >>> > % >> Could you just work on a branch in the SF CVS, at least then most = of > % the code > % >> remains in the same place rather than getting more fragmented. > % >> > % >> > % >> > % > > % > Another branch certainly. It may even be an opportune time to = switch to > % > using svn at sourceforge? > % > > % > Alexis > % > > % > > % > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > % - > % > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > % > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > % > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > % > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > % > _______________________________________________ > % > Bodington-developers mailing list > % > Bod...@li... > % > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > % > > % > > %=20 > %=20 > % -------------------------------------------------------------------------= > % This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > % Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > % control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > % http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > % _______________________________________________ > % Bodington-developers mailing list > % Bod...@li... > % https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2007-07-18 00:16:09
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O.K. I hadn't realised it was quite that far out of synch. In which case it might be better for me to work out what has changed in sourceforge since the divergence and patch that onto the Oxford version to produce a new svn archive for my use. It would be helpful if you could answer two questions; 1) What was the approximate date that your svn started to diverge from sourceforge's cvs? If I know that, I can examine checked in changes to Sourceforge from that date to the present and produce some patches that can be applied to the current Oxford version to produce a merged version. 2) Do you think there are any things that you added to the Oxford localized version that are intended for use only at Oxford and which might cause problems for others? For example, you have an authentication system that is linked into the Oxford webauth - is that done as a nice friendly module which can be configured in or out or is it hardwired in? That's the sort of thing I'm thinking about. Are there other cvs/svn trees out there with even more source code in? Aggie? Sean? Aggie, are you producing new code that you want to check into Sourceforge? Is that why you would prefer me not to check stuff in at the moment? Lastly, a question for anyone who knows Sourceforge: if I set up an svn repository can the cvs one keep going in parallel? I think that might be ideal: I'd leave the cvs tree alone but import the Oxford svn into sourceforge and work on that - first applying patches one by one from the cvs tree and then working on changes that I need. If that isn't possible then I suppose I could create a new SourceForge project for this purpose: Boxingford, Oxbod, TheContinuityBOD, KNob = Knob is NOt Bodington. Some examples of things I want to add: *) Configurable sysadmin option for new user names to be anything you want (when not using administrative zones) or prefixed with a code for the admin zone or suffixed with @domain.ac.uk per admin zone. *) Option for use of multiple virtual host names at the top level - requires work on resource menus and the addition of a new type of resource 'network' at the root with 'site' at the next level down. *) New optional authentication module: provide email address and password. Depending on which site the URL refers to the form will assume the second half of the email address. Option for user to request new password - which will be sent to their email address. *) Addition of another cookie as part of the authentication with wider scope - the whole of the domain. This is to provide single sign on for users who access more than one virtual host name - i.e. navigate between the sites of different colleges. *) Option for user creation tool to send email to each new user with their password in. *) Improved management of aliases. *) Addition of a new resource which is just a 'folder' - folders will be allowed anywhere from sites down so that a site can be built just out of folders if the users aren't interested in the building metaphor. *) WebDAV functionality so that users can drag and drop files to and from Bodington using any WebDAV compliant tool. I think this might also require some restructuring of the way uploaded files are stored. Jon Paul Davis wrote: > If it was an hour or two, or a day or two we'd have synched frequently, but > I believe we'd be talking months of work and that wouldn't give us any > benefit I'm afraid. > > Adam's suggestion of using Weblearn code as your new core seems reasonable > to me - it's been updated, has bug fixes, has a reasonable level of user > testing - which is probably well ahead of any other version currently > > Paul > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr Paul V Davis > Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group > Marketing coordinator, Bodington.org > Oxford University Computing Services > 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN > Tel: 01865 283414 > > % -----Original Message----- > % From: bod...@li... > % [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > % Jon Maber > % Sent: 17 July 2007 13:41 > % To: Bodington developers > % Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington and WebLearn code > % > % What I had in mind was to put Oxford bug fixes into the sourceforge CVS > % at HEAD and to work on new features in my own file store. As I complete > % each new feature I can make a Bodington build available for approval for > % inclusion into the official source tree. > % > % Adam, do you think you could devote an hour or two to reviewing your own > % code repository to reassess the option that you might find time to > % commit it yourselves? I will work on it if that's the only option but I > % can't help thinking that the authors of the code might find the job > % easier. Maybe Paul Davis could fund some overtime.... ;-) > % > % Jon > % > % Alexis O'Connor wrote: > % > Matthew Buckett wrote: > % > > % >> In message > % <510...@HE...> > % >> a.g...@le..., Bodington developers > % >> <bod...@li...> writes: > % >> > % >> > % >>> Just to let you know that in FBS at Leeds we are still using the code > % from > % >>> SourceForge, so anything that beaks that would be bad news for us. > % >>> > % >>> Jon - it might be best for you to set up your own CVS repository, at > % least > % >>> initially. > % >>> > % >>> > % >> Could you just work on a branch in the SF CVS, at least then most of > % the code > % >> remains in the same place rather than getting more fragmented. > % >> > % >> > % >> > % > > % > Another branch certainly. It may even be an opportune time to switch to > % > using svn at sourceforge? > % > > % > Alexis > % > > % > > % > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > % - > % > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > % > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > % > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > % > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > % > _______________________________________________ > % > Bodington-developers mailing list > % > Bod...@li... > % > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > % > > % > > % > % > % ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > % This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > % Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > % control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > % http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > % _______________________________________________ > % Bodington-developers mailing list > % Bod...@li... > % https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > |
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From: Paul D. <pau...@ou...> - 2007-07-17 13:02:50
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If it was an hour or two, or a day or two we'd have synched frequently, but I believe we'd be talking months of work and that wouldn't give us any benefit I'm afraid. Adam's suggestion of using Weblearn code as your new core seems reasonable to me - it's been updated, has bug fixes, has a reasonable level of user testing - which is probably well ahead of any other version currently Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Paul V Davis Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group Marketing coordinator, Bodington.org Oxford University Computing Services 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN Tel: 01865 283414 % -----Original Message----- % From: bod...@li... % [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of % Jon Maber % Sent: 17 July 2007 13:41 % To: Bodington developers % Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington and WebLearn code % % What I had in mind was to put Oxford bug fixes into the sourceforge CVS % at HEAD and to work on new features in my own file store. As I complete % each new feature I can make a Bodington build available for approval for % inclusion into the official source tree. % % Adam, do you think you could devote an hour or two to reviewing your own % code repository to reassess the option that you might find time to % commit it yourselves? I will work on it if that's the only option but I % can't help thinking that the authors of the code might find the job % easier. Maybe Paul Davis could fund some overtime.... ;-) % % Jon % % Alexis O'Connor wrote: % > Matthew Buckett wrote: % > % >> In message % <510...@HE...> % >> a.g...@le..., Bodington developers % >> <bod...@li...> writes: % >> % >> % >>> Just to let you know that in FBS at Leeds we are still using the code % from % >>> SourceForge, so anything that beaks that would be bad news for us. % >>> % >>> Jon - it might be best for you to set up your own CVS repository, at % least % >>> initially. % >>> % >>> % >> Could you just work on a branch in the SF CVS, at least then most of % the code % >> remains in the same place rather than getting more fragmented. % >> % >> % >> % > % > Another branch certainly. It may even be an opportune time to switch to % > using svn at sourceforge? % > % > Alexis % > % > % > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ % - % > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express % > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take % > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. % > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ % > _______________________________________________ % > Bodington-developers mailing list % > Bod...@li... % > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers % > % > % % % ------------------------------------------------------------------------- % This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express % Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take % control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. % http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ % _______________________________________________ % Bodington-developers mailing list % Bod...@li... % https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2007-07-17 12:41:12
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What I had in mind was to put Oxford bug fixes into the sourceforge CVS at HEAD and to work on new features in my own file store. As I complete each new feature I can make a Bodington build available for approval for inclusion into the official source tree. Adam, do you think you could devote an hour or two to reviewing your own code repository to reassess the option that you might find time to commit it yourselves? I will work on it if that's the only option but I can't help thinking that the authors of the code might find the job easier. Maybe Paul Davis could fund some overtime.... ;-) Jon Alexis O'Connor wrote: > Matthew Buckett wrote: > >> In message <510...@HE...> >> a.g...@le..., Bodington developers >> <bod...@li...> writes: >> >> >>> Just to let you know that in FBS at Leeds we are still using the code from >>> SourceForge, so anything that beaks that would be bad news for us. >>> >>> Jon - it might be best for you to set up your own CVS repository, at least >>> initially. >>> >>> >> Could you just work on a branch in the SF CVS, at least then most of the code >> remains in the same place rather than getting more fragmented. >> >> >> > > Another branch certainly. It may even be an opportune time to switch to > using svn at sourceforge? > > Alexis > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...> - 2007-07-17 09:38:45
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Matthew Buckett wrote: > In message <510...@HE...> > a.g...@le..., Bodington developers > <bod...@li...> writes: > >> Just to let you know that in FBS at Leeds we are still using the code from >> SourceForge, so anything that beaks that would be bad news for us. >> >> Jon - it might be best for you to set up your own CVS repository, at least >> initially. >> > > Could you just work on a branch in the SF CVS, at least then most of the code > remains in the same place rather than getting more fragmented. > > Another branch certainly. It may even be an opportune time to switch to using svn at sourceforge? Alexis |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2007-07-17 09:35:48
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In message <510...@HE...> a.g...@le..., Bodington developers <bod...@li...> writes: > Just to let you know that in FBS at Leeds we are still using the code from > SourceForge, so anything that beaks that would be bad news for us. > > Jon - it might be best for you to set up your own CVS repository, at least > initially. Could you just work on a branch in the SF CVS, at least then most of the code remains in the same place rather than getting more fragmented. |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2007-07-17 09:27:35
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Just to let you know that in FBS at Leeds we are still using the code = from SourceForge, so anything that beaks that would be bad news for us. Jon - it might be best for you to set up your own CVS repository, at = least initially. Aggie ____________________________________________ Andrew G Booth National Teaching Fellow Professor of Online Learning Institute of Life Science Education Faculty of Biological Sciences Garstang Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT U.K. Tel: +44-113-343-3142=20 ____________________________________________ No Education Patents Boycott Blackboard http://www.noedupatents.org/ ____________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham Sent: 17 July 2007 09:37 To: Bodington developers Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington and WebLearn code Jon Maber wrote: > O.K. Do you think you could let me have an archive copy of your SVN=20 > repository? It's open to the public: https://svn.oucs.ox.ac.uk/projects/vle/weblearn/ > That way I can not only diff your version against the=20 > sourceforge version but I can look at the comments provided when the=20 > files were checked in etc. Yes, the CVS history was copied when we moved it to SVN, and we've all = been good boys with commit=20 comments. > I can also select key patches/bug fixes and=20 > roll them into the sourceforge repository. Is SVN similar to CVS - = i.e.=20 > there's a directory which you bundle up into a tarball or zip and just = > unpack on another server? Presumably you wanted to know that before knowing it was a public SVN... > Is your SVN repository more or less idle now or is there stuff being=20 > added? It's still being used in support of the live service. Each past release = has been tagged. The most=20 current ones are: # WebLearn_2_16/ # branch_WebLearn_2_14/ # branch_WebLearn_2_12/ # branch_WebLearn_2_10/ # branch_WebLearn_2_8/ # branch_WebLearn_2_6/ (there's no significance in the 'branch_' prefix, we dropped it recently = as it was unnecessary...). Paul T wrote up the changes in each release, and most of those are = available in WebLearn itself=20 AFAIK. I'll dig out some URLs. Colin --=20 ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2007-07-17 08:37:11
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Jon Maber wrote: > O.K. Do you think you could let me have an archive copy of your SVN > repository? It's open to the public: https://svn.oucs.ox.ac.uk/projects/vle/weblearn/ > That way I can not only diff your version against the > sourceforge version but I can look at the comments provided when the > files were checked in etc. Yes, the CVS history was copied when we moved it to SVN, and we've all been good boys with commit comments. > I can also select key patches/bug fixes and > roll them into the sourceforge repository. Is SVN similar to CVS - i.e. > there's a directory which you bundle up into a tarball or zip and just > unpack on another server? Presumably you wanted to know that before knowing it was a public SVN... > Is your SVN repository more or less idle now or is there stuff being > added? It's still being used in support of the live service. Each past release has been tagged. The most current ones are: # WebLearn_2_16/ # branch_WebLearn_2_14/ # branch_WebLearn_2_12/ # branch_WebLearn_2_10/ # branch_WebLearn_2_8/ # branch_WebLearn_2_6/ (there's no significance in the 'branch_' prefix, we dropped it recently as it was unnecessary...). Paul T wrote up the changes in each release, and most of those are available in WebLearn itself AFAIK. I'll dig out some URLs. Colin -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2007-07-16 17:36:36
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Adam Marshall wrote: > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > | Jon Maber > | Sent: 16 July 2007 17:58 > | To: Bodington developers > | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington Hosting andImplications > | forDevelopment > | > | Adam Marshall wrote: > | > On the reverse side of the coin, we probably have code, patches / bug > | fixes > | > in our SVN that you may want to use to patch head before you start > | > improvements. > | I would really appreciate it if you could check in your patches/bug > | fixes etc. > | > > I'm afraid the damage was done a couple of years ago and now we're so far > out of wack with Bodington now that it would be a major undertaking. > > We're all working like mad on Sakai now and wouldn't be able to spend the > time doing the merge. That's why I suggested considering whether you'd want > to work from weblearn head. I don't think there's very much Oxford specific > stuff in there at all. > Hmm.... O.K. Do you think you could let me have an archive copy of your SVN repository? That way I can not only diff your version against the sourceforge version but I can look at the comments provided when the files were checked in etc. I can also select key patches/bug fixes and roll them into the sourceforge repository. Is SVN similar to CVS - i.e. there's a directory which you bundle up into a tarball or zip and just unpack on another server? Is your SVN repository more or less idle now or is there stuff being added? I'm thinking that you may still have various JISC funded projects still running that relate to Bodington and which you've promised to make source code available. Jon |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-07-16 17:06:10
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| -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Jon Maber | Sent: 16 July 2007 17:58 | To: Bodington developers | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Bodington Hosting andImplications | forDevelopment | | Adam Marshall wrote: | > On the reverse side of the coin, we probably have code, patches / bug | fixes | > in our SVN that you may want to use to patch head before you start | > improvements. | I would really appreciate it if you could check in your patches/bug | fixes etc. | I'm afraid the damage was done a couple of years ago and now we're so far out of wack with Bodington now that it would be a major undertaking. We're all working like mad on Sakai now and wouldn't be able to spend the time doing the merge. That's why I suggested considering whether you'd want to work from weblearn head. I don't think there's very much Oxford specific stuff in there at all. Sorry to be so unhelpful Jon! Adam |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2007-07-16 16:57:57
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Adam Marshall wrote: > On the reverse side of the coin, we probably have code, patches / bug fixes > in our SVN that you may want to use to patch head before you start > improvements. I would really appreciate it if you could check in your patches/bug fixes etc. Jon |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-07-16 16:32:56
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In addition to Bodington tools, what services are offered? Here's a list that I fashioned with reference to e-framework service genres - anybody else got any more to add? Those services again: Metadata (what schemas?) Navigation Tracking (saving) Tracking (reporting) Notification / email alert Search (not federated) Manage User (import / edit) Groups (create / edit) IMS CP import (package import) IMS CP export (package export) IMS QTI 1 export IMS QTI 1 import Logging Authorisation (ACL) URL (human readable) Authentication (external) Announcement (LHS RSS feed) Tiny URL (aliasing) Job scheduler HTML filtering User preferences (all I can think of is LHS panel display) Adam |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-07-16 09:33:14
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Your plans shouldn't affect us - we're so far from Bodington head these days. The only impact is that we may want to draw down your new code from head if it looks like something that will be useful. On the reverse side of the coin, we probably have code, patches / bug fixes in our SVN that you may want to use to patch head before you start improvements. For example we've integrated FCKEdit and created this new collaborative authoring tool (with 'locking') - it's just a page with a word processor on it. It should be possible to give you access to our repo and we'll try to help with your questions as they arise. You may even want to consider using weblearn as a starting point (as opposed to head). We've got most stuff (I think) from head but definitely not everything. Adam(ski) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Jon Maber | Sent: 12 July 2007 18:21 | To: Bodington developers | Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington Hosting and Implications | forDevelopment | | Dear All, | | I'm planning to launch a hosting service next year - Campus Academicus, | www.campusacademicus.com. (I start marketing in Spring with the | intention of attracting schools and colleges who will start using the | service in earnest in the autumn term of 2008.) I will be piloting it in | the upcoming academic year with one college. | | This will be a very low cost solution because a single Bodington | installation will be shared by multiple customers. Pricing will be | based on the volume of uploaded files, not the number of users. My long | term aim is to migrate from Bodington a little at a time to a new | software product which I am planning to create myself. However, in the | short/medium term I need to do some fairly significant work on Bodington | to make it work for my own application. For example, I will be using | administrative zones for each client but I also intend to give each | client its own host name. So, the top level resource menu will not be a | list of buildings but a list of sites and the URLs of the sites will | each refer to the root directory of a host. As the service expands this | will allow me to split clients off onto their own servers without | changing the URLs. | | The question is, how can my work on Bodington fit in with those of you | who are still using it? Is anyone out there planning to commit anything | significant into the SourceForge project over the next year or so? Am I | going to be the only person doing any work on Bodington during this | period? Can I just do whatever I want or is there anyone left whose | approval/agreement I need to gain? | | Jon | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express | Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take | control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. | http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...> - 2007-07-16 08:38:09
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Jon Maber wrote: > The question is, how can my work on Bodington fit in with those of you > who are still using it? Is anyone out there planning to commit anything > significant into the SourceForge project over the next year or so? Am I > going to be the only person doing any work on Bodington during this > period? Can I just do whatever I want or is there anyone left whose > approval/agreement I need to gain? > > This is not a proper answer as such. I was just going to respond to say that the vast majority of people who would have anything to say about this at Oxford were otherwise engaged last Friday with an away day in the morning (away from computers!) and a boat trip in the afternoon! I'm sure one of us will reply to this with an answer it deserves very shortly. Alexis |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2007-07-12 17:21:26
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Dear All, I'm planning to launch a hosting service next year - Campus Academicus, www.campusacademicus.com. (I start marketing in Spring with the intention of attracting schools and colleges who will start using the service in earnest in the autumn term of 2008.) I will be piloting it in the upcoming academic year with one college. This will be a very low cost solution because a single Bodington installation will be shared by multiple customers. Pricing will be based on the volume of uploaded files, not the number of users. My long term aim is to migrate from Bodington a little at a time to a new software product which I am planning to create myself. However, in the short/medium term I need to do some fairly significant work on Bodington to make it work for my own application. For example, I will be using administrative zones for each client but I also intend to give each client its own host name. So, the top level resource menu will not be a list of buildings but a list of sites and the URLs of the sites will each refer to the root directory of a host. As the service expands this will allow me to split clients off onto their own servers without changing the URLs. The question is, how can my work on Bodington fit in with those of you who are still using it? Is anyone out there planning to commit anything significant into the SourceForge project over the next year or so? Am I going to be the only person doing any work on Bodington during this period? Can I just do whatever I want or is there anyone left whose approval/agreement I need to gain? Jon |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2007-07-09 15:41:35
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On 9 Jul 2007, at 15:44, Alistair Young wrote: > ooo, there's a blast from the past. come back bod, all is forgiven :) > >> Bods with postgres 8? > we're running bod on 8.2 at the moment - no probs reported > fewer probs on that than upgrading things to new mysql 5.x! >> Bods on different server to database > we've always run the db on a different machine from the server and > it's been fine. The only prob we had was when the network > connection dropped for even a nano-second - it was enough to wipe > out bod. But I think Matthew fixed that ages ago. > matthew patched it, no problems. sweet. > Alistair > > > -------------- > mov eax,1 > mov ebx,0 > int 80h > > > > > On 9 Jul 2007, at 15:43, Adam Marshall wrote: > >> Bodington - remember that? >> >> Anybody got any experience of the following >> >> - Bods with postgres 8? >> - Bods with java 6 >> - Bods with tomcat 6 >> - Bods with AFS as filesystem >> - Bods on different server to database >> >> Are there any issues that ONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF (soz for CAPS)? >> >> Adam >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-07-09 15:01:37
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|ooo, there's a blast from the past. come back bod, all is forgiven :) | |>Bods with postgres 8? | |we're running bod on 8.2 at the moment - no probs reported Is your user logged on at the moment? Ho ho. | |>Bods on different server to database | |we've always run the db on a different machine from the server and it's |been fine. The only prob we had was when the network connection dropped for |even a nano-second - it was enough to wipe out bod. But I think Matthew |fixed that ages ago. | |Alistair Thanks Al. Adam |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2007-07-09 14:49:40
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ooo, there's a blast from the past. come back bod, all is forgiven :) > Bods with postgres 8? we're running bod on 8.2 at the moment - no probs reported > Bods on different server to database we've always run the db on a different machine from the server and it's been fine. The only prob we had was when the network connection dropped for even a nano-second - it was enough to wipe out bod. But I think Matthew fixed that ages ago. Alistair -------------- mov eax,1 mov ebx,0 int 80h On 9 Jul 2007, at 15:43, Adam Marshall wrote: > Bodington - remember that? > > Anybody got any experience of the following > > - Bods with postgres 8? > - Bods with java 6 > - Bods with tomcat 6 > - Bods with AFS as filesystem > - Bods on different server to database > > Are there any issues that ONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF (soz for CAPS)? > > Adam > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2007-07-09 14:49:40
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We've been running bods with the software on one server and the database = on another for some time now. Tomcat 5, Bod 2.8 (modified), Postgresql 7.4, both machines running Solaris 8. Seems fine. Also done a Solaris/OSX = split. I've run it with Postgresql 8, but only under Windoze. Aggie ____________________________________________ Andrew G Booth Professor of Online Learning National Teaching Fellow Institute of Life Science Education Faculty of Biological Sciences Garstang Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT U.K. Tel: +44-113-343-3142=20 ____________________________________________ No Education Patents Boycott Blackboard http://www.noedupatents.org/ ____________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Adam Marshall Sent: 09 July 2007 15:44 To: 'Bodington developers' Subject: [Bodington-developers] bods with separate DB and server Bodington - remember that? Anybody got any experience of the following - Bods with postgres 8? - Bods with java 6 - Bods with tomcat 6 - Bods with AFS as filesystem - Bods on different server to database Are there any issues that ONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF (soz for CAPS)? Adam=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-07-09 14:43:43
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Bodington - remember that? Anybody got any experience of the following - Bods with postgres 8? - Bods with java 6 - Bods with tomcat 6 - Bods with AFS as filesystem - Bods on different server to database Are there any issues that ONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF (soz for CAPS)? Adam |
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