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I just read the RPM-HOWTO and I'm going to try to make it work this weekend. I'm
part way there already. I'm also going to make some minor changes based on
Murray's feedback.

Everything looks good. The "Access" button doesn't do anything yet, that't why
it says DEFAULT! Click on the "BOBS" button to go to index.php where you can
login to a server definition and browse the files that were backed up.
> Hi Joe, Rene
> 
> The cmdloop is running. If I do the manual test I get this from cmdloop:
> 
> 	Starting ./cmd/cmd.1048036424.bash
> 	WARNING: --rsh or -e option ignored when connecting to rsync daemon
> 	receiving file list ... done
> 	done
> 	wrote 458 bytes  read 913 bytes  2742.00 bytes/sec
> 	total size is 36033734  speedup is 26282.81
> 	Finished ./cmd/cmd.1048036424.bash
> 	Starting ./cmd/cmd.1048036425.bash
> 	Finished ./cmd/cmd.1048036425.bash
> 	Starting ./cmd/cmd.1048036426.php
> 	X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
> 	Content-type: text/html
> 
> 
> 	Finished ./cmd/cmd.1048036426.php
> 	Starting ./cmd/cmd.1048036427.php
> 	X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
> 	Content-type: text/html
> 
> 
> 	Finished ./cmd/cmd.1048036427.php
> 
> and php backup.php to invoke the above gave me:
> 
> 	X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
> 	Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=e9d0191f0b218b4f3c93285c984cbb6b; path=/
> 	Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
> 	Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, 
> pre-check=0
> 	Pragma: no-cache
> 	Content-type: text/html
> 
> No obvious errors (to me at least!). As I said, there are copies of my files 
> in bobsdata/current/MyShareName as well as a couple of .db files and a .ser 
> file. Same repeated in bobsdata/incremental too so rsync is working. NFS is 
> ok; I can mount and rw the test directory on the server.
> 
> I point my browser to dadada/bobs/admin.php, enter the password and get the 
> server selection page where I can add, delete or change my servers. I then 
> click on Access (menu across top of page) and get "DEFAULT!" 
> 
> If it helps - in INSTALL theres a note about cleaning out the session/ 
> directory occasionally. Mine is empty.
> 
> Cheers
> Murray
> 
> 
> On Friday 21 March 2003 02:27, Joe Zacky wrote:
> > Murray,
> >
> > If you can login but see an empty file selection tree, it could be the
> > 'cmdloop' cron job that runs in the background didn't get properly
> > installed. If you run 'ps x' you should see something running like
> >                '/bin/bash /var/bobsdata/current/process/cmdloop'.
> > There are instructions in the INSTALL for testing the cmdloop and backup
> > manually.
> >
> > Also, if you haven't had a successful backup, the restore tree will be
> > empty or get an error.
> >
> > Your feedback is valuable. Thanks.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> 
> 
> 
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I think the one I have is the same but you can post the one you have and
I can make some comments/changes to it.

Rene

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 16:12, Joe Zacky wrote:
> If I end my http server (because I'll get an error on 'chown apache' 
> during 'make install' when run as a regular user) then run:
> 
>          ./configure --prefix=/home/joe/test
> 
> it installs without error into /home/joe/test.
> 
> I think the syntax for building the rpm would be './configure 
> DESTDIR=/somewhere'.
> 
> I'll try building the rpm myself so I can see what's going on. The 
> 'bobs.spec' file I have is from Nov 29th. If you have a newer one, 
> please send it to me. I plan to use the filmgimp Makefile as a reference 
> for the rpm build commands.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Rene Rask wrote:
> 
> >Hi Joe.
> >
> >I was just thinking that the description of the "make install" problems
> >could be boiled down to this:
> >
> >If I'm unable to do "./configure --destdir=/somewhere" and then "make
> >install" as a regular user, I'm also not able to build an rpm.
> >(not sure that is the correct syntax, but I think you understand my
> >point)
> >
> >So when "make install" tries to insert the cron script part of the
> >install it will fail as a regular user.
> >
> >Cheers
> >René
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hi Joe, Rene

The cmdloop is running. If I do the manual test I get this from cmdloop:

=09Starting ./cmd/cmd.1048036424.bash
=09WARNING: --rsh or -e option ignored when connecting to rsync daemon
=09receiving file list ... done
=09done
=09wrote 458 bytes  read 913 bytes  2742.00 bytes/sec
=09total size is 36033734  speedup is 26282.81
=09Finished ./cmd/cmd.1048036424.bash
=09Starting ./cmd/cmd.1048036425.bash
=09Finished ./cmd/cmd.1048036425.bash
=09Starting ./cmd/cmd.1048036426.php
=09X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
=09Content-type: text/html

=09Finished ./cmd/cmd.1048036426.php
=09Starting ./cmd/cmd.1048036427.php
=09X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
=09Content-type: text/html

=09Finished ./cmd/cmd.1048036427.php

and php backup.php to invoke the above gave me:

=09X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
=09Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=3De9d0191f0b218b4f3c93285c984cbb6b; path=3D/
=09Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
=09Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=3D0, pr=
e-check=3D0
=09Pragma: no-cache
=09Content-type: text/html

No obvious errors (to me at least!). As I said, there are copies of my fi=
les=20
in bobsdata/current/MyShareName as well as a couple of .db files and a .s=
er=20
file. Same repeated in bobsdata/incremental too so rsync is working. NFS =
is=20
ok; I can mount and rw the test directory on the server.

I point my browser to dadada/bobs/admin.php, enter the password and get t=
he=20
server selection page where I can add, delete or change my servers. I the=
n=20
click on Access (menu across top of page) and get "DEFAULT!"=20

If it helps - in INSTALL theres a note about cleaning out the session/=20
directory occasionally. Mine is empty.

Cheers
Murray

On Friday 21 March 2003 02:27, Joe Zacky wrote:
> Murray,
>
> If you can login but see an empty file selection tree, it could be the
> 'cmdloop' cron job that runs in the background didn't get properly
> installed. If you run 'ps x' you should see something running like
>                '/bin/bash /var/bobsdata/current/process/cmdloop'.
> There are instructions in the INSTALL for testing the cmdloop and backu=
p
> manually.
>
> Also, if you haven't had a successful backup, the restore tree will be
> empty or get an error.
>
> Your feedback is valuable. Thanks.
>
> Joe
>

Murray,

If you can login but see an empty file selection tree, it could be the 
'cmdloop' cron job that runs in the background didn't get properly 
installed. If you run 'ps x' you should see something running like
               '/bin/bash /var/bobsdata/current/process/cmdloop'.
There are instructions in the INSTALL for testing the cmdloop and backup 
manually.

Also, if you haven't had a successful backup, the restore tree will be 
empty or get an error.

Your feedback is valuable. Thanks.

Joe

Rene Rask wrote:

>Your login and password is the same at you have set for the server/share
>you are making backups of. Should be a matter of just entering the
>correct ones. Please let us know if you still have problems when you
>have time to try it.
>
>Rene
>
>On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:12, Murray Curtis wrote:
>  
>
>>No problem once you know how - RTFM I guess...
>>
>>I now have Bobs up and running, except I can't display the page ( "access"? ) 
>>that lets me see my files and select them for restore. They are there in the 
>>/bobsdata/current/my_dir_name.  Thats as far as I've got, I have other 
>>distractions for a few days but I'll try and figure that out some more next 
>>week.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Murray
>>
>>On Thursday 20 March 2003 14:44, Joe Zacky wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>I'm the author of "the old keep pushing the button trick", and here's my
>>>rationale behind it:
>>>
>>>That screen is a dynamic one, meaning that the fields presented depend
>>>on what has been selected in the drop down boxes. So I keep redisplaying
>>>the screen when anything changes - a new field or input keyed into a
>>>field. And the first time the screen is shown it's considered changed,
>>>because it's different than what was there before - nothing. I thought I
>>>was pretty clever, but it didn't work out as well as planned.
>>>
>>>So in the interim I've change the button from 'OK' to 'Next'. At least
>>>that should prompt the user to keep pushing.
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>>>Rene Rask wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Great, I'll try fixing that when I have some time.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>>>Rene
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 00:24, Murray Curtis wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Ahaa! The old keep pushing the button until it works trick! That did it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Rene
>>>>>Murray
>>>>>
>>>>>Small detail note: the text on the server page says " type the name of a
>>>>>new Server/Share and click Create" but the button is actually labeled
>>>>>"Add".
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Murray
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From your description I'm unable to figure out what is wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't you get any error messages at all?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I haven't had the chance to test bobs with php 4.3.x yet so it may cause
>>>>>>problems. If possible I would suggets trying php 4.1.x or 4.2.x to see
>>>>>>if that helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You should also be aware that you have to press save several times when
>>>>>>creating new servers. Once to update the page to your setting and once
>>>>>>to save. That updates the page and if you do not change anything it will
>>>>>>save the second time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If that doesn't solve the problem, please let me know.
>>>>>>I've have a horrible deadline, so please don't despair if I don't
>>>>>>respond immediatly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>RenÃ©
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------
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If I end my http server (because I'll get an error on 'chown apache' 
during 'make install' when run as a regular user) then run:

         ./configure --prefix=/home/joe/test

it installs without error into /home/joe/test.

I think the syntax for building the rpm would be './configure 
DESTDIR=/somewhere'.

I'll try building the rpm myself so I can see what's going on. The 
'bobs.spec' file I have is from Nov 29th. If you have a newer one, 
please send it to me. I plan to use the filmgimp Makefile as a reference 
for the rpm build commands.

Joe

Rene Rask wrote:

>Hi Joe.
>
>I was just thinking that the description of the "make install" problems
>could be boiled down to this:
>
>If I'm unable to do "./configure --destdir=/somewhere" and then "make
>install" as a regular user, I'm also not able to build an rpm.
>(not sure that is the correct syntax, but I think you understand my
>point)
>
>So when "make install" tries to insert the cron script part of the
>install it will fail as a regular user.
>
>Cheers
>René
>
>
>
>  
>

Hi Joe.

I was just thinking that the description of the "make install" problems
could be boiled down to this:

If I'm unable to do "./configure --destdir=/somewhere" and then "make
install" as a regular user, I'm also not able to build an rpm.
(not sure that is the correct syntax, but I think you understand my
point)

So when "make install" tries to insert the cron script part of the
install it will fail as a regular user.

Cheers
René

-- 
Rene Rask <re...@gr...>

Your login and password is the same at you have set for the server/share
you are making backups of. Should be a matter of just entering the
correct ones. Please let us know if you still have problems when you
have time to try it.

Rene

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:12, Murray Curtis wrote:
> No problem once you know how - RTFM I guess...
> 
> I now have Bobs up and running, except I can't display the page ( "access"? ) 
> that lets me see my files and select them for restore. They are there in the 
> /bobsdata/current/my_dir_name.  Thats as far as I've got, I have other 
> distractions for a few days but I'll try and figure that out some more next 
> week.
> 
> Thanks
> Murray
> 
> On Thursday 20 March 2003 14:44, Joe Zacky wrote:
> > I'm the author of "the old keep pushing the button trick", and here's my
> > rationale behind it:
> >
> > That screen is a dynamic one, meaning that the fields presented depend
> > on what has been selected in the drop down boxes. So I keep redisplaying
> > the screen when anything changes - a new field or input keyed into a
> > field. And the first time the screen is shown it's considered changed,
> > because it's different than what was there before - nothing. I thought I
> > was pretty clever, but it didn't work out as well as planned.
> >
> > So in the interim I've change the button from 'OK' to 'Next'. At least
> > that should prompt the user to keep pushing.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Rene Rask wrote:
> > >Great, I'll try fixing that when I have some time.
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >Rene
> > >
> > >On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 00:24, Murray Curtis wrote:
> > >>Ahaa! The old keep pushing the button until it works trick! That did it.
> > >>
> > >>Thanks Rene
> > >>Murray
> > >>
> > >>Small detail note: the text on the server page says " type the name of a
> > >> new Server/Share and click Create" but the button is actually labeled
> > >> "Add".
> > >>
> > >>>Hi Murray
> > >>>
> > >>>>From your description I'm unable to figure out what is wrong.
> > >>>
> > >>>Don't you get any error messages at all?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>I haven't had the chance to test bobs with php 4.3.x yet so it may cause
> > >>>problems. If possible I would suggets trying php 4.1.x or 4.2.x to see
> > >>>if that helps.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>You should also be aware that you have to press save several times when
> > >>>creating new servers. Once to update the page to your setting and once
> > >>>to save. That updates the page and if you do not change anything it will
> > >>>save the second time.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>If that doesn't solve the problem, please let me know.
> > >>>I've have a horrible deadline, so please don't despair if I don't
> > >>>respond immediatly.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Cheers
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>RenÃ©
> > >>
> > >>-------------------------------------------------------
> > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: Does your code think in ink?
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> 
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Rene Rask <re...@gr...>

No problem once you know how - RTFM I guess...

I now have Bobs up and running, except I can't display the page ( "access=
"? )=20
that lets me see my files and select them for restore. They are there in =
the=20
/bobsdata/current/my_dir_name.  Thats as far as I've got, I have other=20
distractions for a few days but I'll try and figure that out some more ne=
xt=20
week.

Thanks
Murray

On Thursday 20 March 2003 14:44, Joe Zacky wrote:
> I'm the author of "the old keep pushing the button trick", and here's m=
y
> rationale behind it:
>
> That screen is a dynamic one, meaning that the fields presented depend
> on what has been selected in the drop down boxes. So I keep redisplayin=
g
> the screen when anything changes - a new field or input keyed into a
> field. And the first time the screen is shown it's considered changed,
> because it's different than what was there before - nothing. I thought =
I
> was pretty clever, but it didn't work out as well as planned.
>
> So in the interim I've change the button from 'OK' to 'Next'. At least
> that should prompt the user to keep pushing.
>
> Joe
>
> Rene Rask wrote:
> >Great, I'll try fixing that when I have some time.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Rene
> >
> >On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 00:24, Murray Curtis wrote:
> >>Ahaa! The old keep pushing the button until it works trick! That did =
it.
> >>
> >>Thanks Rene
> >>Murray
> >>
> >>Small detail note: the text on the server page says " type the name o=
f a
> >> new Server/Share and click Create" but the button is actually labele=
d
> >> "Add".
> >>
> >>>Hi Murray
> >>>
> >>>>From your description I'm unable to figure out what is wrong.
> >>>
> >>>Don't you get any error messages at all?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I haven't had the chance to test bobs with php 4.3.x yet so it may c=
ause
> >>>problems. If possible I would suggets trying php 4.1.x or 4.2.x to s=
ee
> >>>if that helps.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You should also be aware that you have to press save several times w=
hen
> >>>creating new servers. Once to update the page to your setting and on=
ce
> >>>to save. That updates the page and if you do not change anything it =
will
> >>>save the second time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>If that doesn't solve the problem, please let me know.
> >>>I've have a horrible deadline, so please don't despair if I don't
> >>>respond immediatly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ren=C3=83=C2=A9
> >>
> >>-------------------------------------------------------
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I also changed the text to "click Add". Thanks Murray. Details detail 
 details...

Joe

Joe Zacky wrote:

> I'm the author of "the old keep pushing the button trick", and here's 
> my rationale behind it:
>
> That screen is a dynamic one, meaning that the fields presented depend 
> on what has been selected in the drop down boxes. So I keep 
> redisplaying the screen when anything changes - a new field or input 
> keyed into a field. And the first time the screen is shown it's 
> considered changed, because it's different than what was there before 
> - nothing. I thought I was pretty clever, but it didn't work out as 
> well as planned.
>
> So in the interim I've change the button from 'OK' to 'Next'. At least 
> that should prompt the user to keep pushing.
>
> Joe
>
> Rene Rask wrote:
>
>> Great, I'll try fixing that when I have some time.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 00:24, Murray Curtis wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Ahaa! The old keep pushing the button until it works trick! That did 
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Thanks Rene
>>> Murray
>>>
>>> Small detail note: the text on the server page says " type the name 
>>> of a new Server/Share and click Create" but the button is actually 
>>> labeled "Add".
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> Hi Murray
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>>> From your description I'm unable to figure out what is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Don't you get any error messages at all?
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> I haven't had the chance to test bobs with php 4.3.x yet so it may 
>>>> cause
>>>> problems. If possible I would suggets trying php 4.1.x or 4.2.x to see
>>>> if that helps.
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> You should also be aware that you have to press save several times 
>>>> when
>>>> creating new servers. Once to update the page to your setting and once
>>>> to save. That updates the page and if you do not change anything it 
>>>> will
>>>> save the second time.
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> If that doesn't solve the problem, please let me know.
>>>> I've have a horrible deadline, so please don't despair if I don't
>>>> respond immediatly.
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> RenÃ©
>>>>     
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>   
>>
>
>
>
>
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I'm the author of "the old keep pushing the button trick", and here's my 
rationale behind it:

That screen is a dynamic one, meaning that the fields presented depend 
on what has been selected in the drop down boxes. So I keep redisplaying 
the screen when anything changes - a new field or input keyed into a 
field. And the first time the screen is shown it's considered changed, 
because it's different than what was there before - nothing. I thought I 
was pretty clever, but it didn't work out as well as planned.

So in the interim I've change the button from 'OK' to 'Next'. At least 
that should prompt the user to keep pushing.

Joe

Rene Rask wrote:

>Great, I'll try fixing that when I have some time.
>
>Cheers
>Rene
>
>
>
>On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 00:24, Murray Curtis wrote:
>  
>
>>Ahaa! The old keep pushing the button until it works trick! That did it.
>>
>>Thanks Rene
>>Murray
>>
>>Small detail note: the text on the server page says " type the name of a new 
>>Server/Share and click Create" but the button is actually labeled "Add".
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Murray
>>>      
>>>
>> 
>>    
>>
>>>>From your description I'm unable to figure out what is wrong.
>>>Don't you get any error messages at all?
>>>      
>>>
>> 
>>    
>>
>>>I haven't had the chance to test bobs with php 4.3.x yet so it may cause
>>>problems. If possible I would suggets trying php 4.1.x or 4.2.x to see
>>>if that helps.
>>>      
>>>
>> 
>>    
>>
>>>You should also be aware that you have to press save several times when
>>>creating new servers. Once to update the page to your setting and once
>>>to save. That updates the page and if you do not change anything it will
>>>save the second time.
>>>      
>>>
>> 
>>    
>>
>>>If that doesn't solve the problem, please let me know.
>>>I've have a horrible deadline, so please don't despair if I don't
>>>respond immediatly.
>>>      
>>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Cheers
>>>      
>>>
>> 
>>    
>>
>>>RenÃ©
>>>      
>>>
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Great, I'll try fixing that when I have some time.

Cheers
Rene

On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 00:24, Murray Curtis wrote:
> Ahaa! The old keep pushing the button until it works trick! That did it.
> 
> Thanks Rene
> Murray
> 
> Small detail note: the text on the server page says " type the name of a new 
> Server/Share and click Create" but the button is actually labeled "Add".
> 
> 
> >Hi Murray
>  
> > >From your description I'm unable to figure out what is wrong.
> > Don't you get any error messages at all?
>  
> > I haven't had the chance to test bobs with php 4.3.x yet so it may cause
> > problems. If possible I would suggets trying php 4.1.x or 4.2.x to see
> > if that helps.
>  
> > You should also be aware that you have to press save several times when
> > creating new servers. Once to update the page to your setting and once
> > to save. That updates the page and if you do not change anything it will
> > save the second time.
>  
> > If that doesn't solve the problem, please let me know.
> > I've have a horrible deadline, so please don't despair if I don't
> > respond immediatly.
>  
> 
> > Cheers
>  
> > RenÃ©
> 
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Ahaa! The old keep pushing the button until it works trick! That did it.

Thanks Rene
Murray

Small detail note: the text on the server page says " type the name of a =
new=20
Server/Share and click Create" but the button is actually labeled "Add".

>Hi Murray
=20
> >From your description I'm unable to figure out what is wrong.
> Don't you get any error messages at all?
=20
> I haven't had the chance to test bobs with php 4.3.x yet so it may caus=
e
> problems. If possible I would suggets trying php 4.1.x or 4.2.x to see
> if that helps.
=20
> You should also be aware that you have to press save several times when
> creating new servers. Once to update the page to your setting and once
> to save. That updates the page and if you do not change anything it wil=
l
> save the second time.
=20
> If that doesn't solve the problem, please let me know.
> I've have a horrible deadline, so please don't despair if I don't
> respond immediatly.
=20
=20
> Cheers
=20
> Ren=C3=83=C2=A9

Hi Murray

>From your description I'm unable to figure out what is wrong.
Don't you get any error messages at all?

I haven't had the chance to test bobs with php 4.3.x yet so it may cause
problems. If possible I would suggets trying php 4.1.x or 4.2.x to see
if that helps.

You should also be aware that you have to press save several times when
creating new servers. Once to update the page to your setting and once
to save. That updates the page and if you do not change anything it will
save the second time.

If that doesn't solve the problem, please let me know.
I've have a horrible deadline, so please don't despair if I don't
respond immediatly.

Cheers

René

On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 01:26, Murray Curtis wrote:
> G'Day
> 
> I've just tried installing Bobs. I got the lastest version from CVS. The bobs 
> server is RH7.3 with apache 1.3.24 and PHP 4.3.1.
> 
> The web server runs, I can see the testserver entry which changes if I edit 
> servers/testserver.share.ini but I cannot change this one or create a new 
> share. I figured this was a permissions thing but even giving that directory 
> chmod 777 won't let me write anything.
> 
> I saw a message about RH8 and the later versions of PHP from last October - 
> could this be related?
> 
> BTW your screen shots reveal you're in the post industry. Thats exactly what 
> I'm looking to use Bobs for too...
> 
> Murray Curtis
> Complete Post
> Melboune
> Australia
> 
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G'Day

I've just tried installing Bobs. I got the lastest version from CVS. The =
bobs=20
server is RH7.3 with apache 1.3.24 and PHP 4.3.1.

The web server runs, I can see the testserver entry which changes if I ed=
it=20
servers/testserver.share.ini but I cannot change this one or create a new=
=20
share. I figured this was a permissions thing but even giving that direct=
ory=20
chmod 777 won't let me write anything.

I saw a message about RH8 and the later versions of PHP from last October=
 -=20
could this be related?

BTW your screen shots reveal you're in the post industry. Thats exactly w=
hat=20
I'm looking to use Bobs for too...

Murray Curtis
Complete Post
Melboune
Australia

I've been working feverishly the past day and a half to get this working 
right. Part of the problem was the paths $myBOBSDATA and $myWEBDIR 
weren't using the 'prefix' that can be specified by './configure 
--prefix=path'. I was incorrectly using $DESTDIR hardcoded in 
configure.in. Now, when I use ${prefix} or the other variables based on 
it, like ${sysconfdir}, the 'prefix' and DESTDIR are automatically 
included in the final result. I defaulted prefix to '' (NONE) instead of 
/usr/local using AC_PREFIX_DEFAULT('').

I'm using some defaults like you have in your bobs.spec file.

    myBOBSDATA=${localstatedir}/bobsdata
    myCRONDIR=${sysconfdir}/cron.daily

The only weird path is myWEBDIR because it could default to 
/home/httpd/html or /var/www/html. But now maybe it will work 
unhardcoded in your spec file.

I tested several things:

    * './configure' with defaults installs in /var/bobsdata,
      /var/www/html/bobs, and /etc/crontab.
    * './configure --prefix=/usr/local' installs in
      /usr/local/var/bobsdata, /usr/local/var/www/html/bobs, and
      /usr/local/etc/crontab.
    * 'make distcheck' works, though you must be root because it does a
      'chown apache'.
    * 'make DESTDIR=/tmp/staging distcheck' also works. This is what
      leads me to believe that 'make rpm' should also be able to work.

I'll be checking in the changes (all .am and .in files) later today. I 
want to do a little testing first. This is great. I'm learning more than 
I ever wanted to know about automake. I'll be anxious to know if this 
solves the 'make rpm' problems.

Joe

Rene Rask wrote:

>the crontab installation is a problem. I cannot create an rpm with the
>current setup. We need some other way of doing this.
>
>The one thing I can think of on top of my head is issueing a notice
>after "make install" which prompts the user to do "make install-cron" to
>complete the install. Or a "./configure --without-croninstall" option. 
>In any case I need a way to disable the cron installation when building
>an rpm. The cron file should be generated though, so I can use it in the
>spec file.
>
>Let me know what you think
>
>Rene
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 20:43, Joe Zacky wrote:
>  
>
>>I just committed all the Makefile.in's. They are needed for
>>./configure.
>>
>>I'm done except for fixing the multiple OK button pushes and maybe
>>reviewing the README's etc. So feel free to 'make rpm'! Let me know if
>>you have trouble. I'm wondering if some of the explicit path names,
>>like '/etc/crontab' in 'cron/Makefile.am' will be a problem.
>>
>>Normally ./configure is all that is needed to build the source, but if
>>I change some of the .in or .am files, this is how I rebuild the
>>sources:
>>        aclocal
>>        automake --add-missing
>>        autoconf
>>        ./configure
>>Joe
>>
>>Rene Rask wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>I'm getting this error when I run configure.
>>>It goes away if I run automake. 
>>>I don't know if this is a problem that is easily fixed or if I should
>>>just run automake before doing configure.
>>>
>>>[grain@animatrix bobs]$ ./configure
>>>checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
>>>checking whether build environment is sane... yes
>>>checking for gawk... gawk
>>>checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
>>>checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
>>>checking for /home/httpd/html... no
>>>checking for /var/www/html... yes
>>>checking for web server user id... apache
>>>configure: creating ./config.status
>>>config.status: creating Makefile
>>>config.status: creating bash/Makefile
>>>config.status: error: cannot find input file: bash/Makefile.in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 08:24, Joe Zacky wrote:
>>>  
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I'm pumped (excited). I finally figured out what I needed to do to make 
>>>>'make distcheck' work. Now after running 'make distcheck' I get this, 
>>>>instead of errors:
>>>>
>>>>===========================================
>>>>bobs-0.5.1.tar.gz is ready for distribution
>>>>===========================================
>>>>
>>>>You should wait until I check in these changes before working on 'make rpm'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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the crontab installation is a problem. I cannot create an rpm with the
current setup. We need some other way of doing this.

The one thing I can think of on top of my head is issueing a notice
after "make install" which prompts the user to do "make install-cron" to
complete the install. Or a "./configure --without-croninstall" option. 
In any case I need a way to disable the cron installation when building
an rpm. The cron file should be generated though, so I can use it in the
spec file.

Let me know what you think

Rene

On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 20:43, Joe Zacky wrote:
> I just committed all the Makefile.in's. They are needed for
> ./configure.
> 
> I'm done except for fixing the multiple OK button pushes and maybe
> reviewing the README's etc. So feel free to 'make rpm'! Let me know if
> you have trouble. I'm wondering if some of the explicit path names,
> like '/etc/crontab' in 'cron/Makefile.am' will be a problem.
> 
> Normally ./configure is all that is needed to build the source, but if
> I change some of the .in or .am files, this is how I rebuild the
> sources:
>         aclocal
>         automake --add-missing
>         autoconf
>         ./configure
> Joe
> 
> Rene Rask wrote:
> > I'm getting this error when I run configure.
> > It goes away if I run automake. 
> > I don't know if this is a problem that is easily fixed or if I should
> > just run automake before doing configure.
> > 
> > [grain@animatrix bobs]$ ./configure
> > checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> > checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> > checking for gawk... gawk
> > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
> > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
> > checking for /home/httpd/html... no
> > checking for /var/www/html... yes
> > checking for web server user id... apache
> > configure: creating ./config.status
> > config.status: creating Makefile
> > config.status: creating bash/Makefile
> > config.status: error: cannot find input file: bash/Makefile.in
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 08:24, Joe Zacky wrote:
> >   
> > > I'm pumped (excited). I finally figured out what I needed to do to make 
> > > 'make distcheck' work. Now after running 'make distcheck' I get this, 
> > > instead of errors:
> > > 
> > > ===========================================
> > > bobs-0.5.1.tar.gz is ready for distribution
> > > ===========================================
> > > 
> > > You should wait until I check in these changes before working on 'make rpm'.
> > > 
> > > 
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I just committed all the Makefile.in's. They are needed for ./configure.

I'm done except for fixing the multiple OK button pushes and maybe 
reviewing the README's etc. So feel free to 'make rpm'! Let me know if 
you have trouble. I'm wondering if some of the explicit path names, like 
'/etc/crontab' in 'cron/Makefile.am' will be a problem.

Normally ./configure is all that is needed to build the source, but if I 
change some of the .in or .am files, this is how I rebuild the sources:

    aclocal
    automake --add-missing
    autoconf
    ./configure

Joe

Rene Rask wrote:

>I'm getting this error when I run configure.
>It goes away if I run automake. 
>I don't know if this is a problem that is easily fixed or if I should
>just run automake before doing configure.
>
>[grain@animatrix bobs]$ ./configure
>checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
>checking whether build environment is sane... yes
>checking for gawk... gawk
>checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
>checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
>checking for /home/httpd/html... no
>checking for /var/www/html... yes
>checking for web server user id... apache
>configure: creating ./config.status
>config.status: creating Makefile
>config.status: creating bash/Makefile
>config.status: error: cannot find input file: bash/Makefile.in
>
>
>
>On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 08:24, Joe Zacky wrote:
>  
>
>>I'm pumped (excited). I finally figured out what I needed to do to make 
>>'make distcheck' work. Now after running 'make distcheck' I get this, 
>>instead of errors:
>>
>>===========================================
>>bobs-0.5.1.tar.gz is ready for distribution
>>===========================================
>>
>>You should wait until I check in these changes before working on 'make rpm'.
>>
>>
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------
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>>

I'm getting this error when I run configure.
It goes away if I run automake. 
I don't know if this is a problem that is easily fixed or if I should
just run automake before doing configure.

[grain@animatrix bobs]$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for /home/httpd/html... no
checking for /var/www/html... yes
checking for web server user id... apache
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating bash/Makefile
config.status: error: cannot find input file: bash/Makefile.in

On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 08:24, Joe Zacky wrote:
> I'm pumped (excited). I finally figured out what I needed to do to make 
> 'make distcheck' work. Now after running 'make distcheck' I get this, 
> instead of errors:
> 
> ===========================================
> bobs-0.5.1.tar.gz is ready for distribution
> ===========================================
> 
> You should wait until I check in these changes before working on 'make rpm'.
> 
> 
> 
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Hi Joe
Sounds like we are getting close to a new release.
Please let me know if you hit any bugs or bug like stuff, like php
errors or warnings.
I'll have a look at the make rpm when you are done.

-Rene

On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 08:24, Joe Zacky wrote:
> I'm pumped (excited). I finally figured out what I needed to do to make 
> 'make distcheck' work. Now after running 'make distcheck' I get this, 
> instead of errors:
> 
> ===========================================
> bobs-0.5.1.tar.gz is ready for distribution
> ===========================================
> 
> You should wait until I check in these changes before working on 'make rpm'.
> 
> 
> 
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I'm pumped (excited). I finally figured out what I needed to do to make 
'make distcheck' work. Now after running 'make distcheck' I get this, 
instead of errors:

===========================================
bobs-0.5.1.tar.gz is ready for distribution
===========================================

You should wait until I check in these changes before working on 'make rpm'.

I finally tested your most recent fix. The backup works fine now and the 
incremental works too.

I was looking at bobs SourceForge statistics page - there's been quite a 
few downloads. I'd like to get a new release out so people won't have 
such a hard time getting it installed and working.

These are the things I think we should do before a new release:

   1. Insert check_loop into /etc/crontab during 'make install' and
      remove it during 'make uninstall' (Joe)
   2. make rpm (Rene)
   3. More testing. I will setup some things to backup at home.
   4. Fix the multiple 'OK' button pushes when maintaing a server
      definition, or at least make a note on the screen to keep pushing.
      (Joe)
   5. Review and fixup README, INSTALL, TODO, FILES and VERSION.

These things I think can wait until after the release:

    User and group security maintenance (the 'Access' menu option).

Hi Joe

Sorry about the delay. I didn't spot your email until a friend called me
rude for not answering.=20

I have fixed the template that creates the databases to fix the
invisible files and dirs issue. The logic in that part of bobs is a bit
twisted.=20

Please test and let me know if you still have problems. I haven't done
extensive testing, so there maybe be bugs.

I like the new make script. Very nice.=20
I would like your opinion on what you think is missing before we can do
a new release. Or what we should have in before we freeze it and spend
some time hunting down bugs.

Happy newyear=20
Ren=C3=A9

On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 23:14, Joe Zacky wrote:
> I was debugging the files that my backup misses. I created a file=20
> structure like this, mounted on /mnt/tmp with smbmount:
>=20
>     # tree /mnt/tmp
>     /mnt/tmp
>     |-- dir1             <- missing
>     |   |-- d1file1
>     |   `-- d1file2
>     |-- dir2
>     |   |-- d2file1
>     |   `-- d2file2
>     `-- dir3
>         |-- d3file1
>         `-- d3file2    <- missing
>=20
> The rsync script in process/cmd copies all the files to their proper=20
> location in /var/bobsdata/current. But "Browse Current" seems to=20
> consistently not show the first directory and the last file in the last=20
> directory. In this case dir1 and d3file2. I don't know if the problem is=20
> in the db files created by the php scripts in process/cmd, or the php=20
> web page that displays "Browse Current".
>=20
> The attached tar file is the above directory structure. All the files=20
> are 0 bytes. Please try backing it up when you get a chance and let me=20
> know if you get the same results.
>=20
> Here's the config I created to back this up:
>=20
>     server =3D mark
>     share =3D temp
>     active =3D on
>     login =3D
>     password =3D
>     server_ip =3D
>     backup_method =3D smb
>     restore_method =3D smb
>     smb_share =3D temp
>     nfs_share =3D
>     rsync_share =3D
>     incrementals =3D 7
>     run_days =3D 0123456
>=20
>=20
> Also, you probably saw in my recent check-ins that 'make dist' works=20
> now, so you should be able to create a 'make rpm'.
>=20

On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 04:52, Joe Zacky wrote:
> I'm rewriting Makefile.am to use as much of the default variables and 
> processing as possible and to use subdirectories and to make 'make dist' 
> work. There is a file called 'copy' in the bash subdirectory. What is it 
> and is it supposed to be installed somewhere?
> 

It was meant to hold the scripts to be used. I think the templates have
replaced it. I guess it should be removed.

Great with the Makefile rewrite. I'm looking forward to seeing it in
action :)

Cheers
Rene

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I'm rewriting Makefile.am to use as much of the default variables and 
processing as possible and to use subdirectories and to make 'make dist' 
work. There is a file called 'copy' in the bash subdirectory. What is it 
and is it supposed to be installed somewhere?

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