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[Boa Constr] Re: [wxPython] BOA CONSTRUCTOR

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi everybody,

Robert wrote:
> 
> I know from a previous post that bugs are being squashed...any updates you
> can give?
> 

I am quite anxious to release as it has been some time since the last 
version but there are a few things which MUST be sorted out.
I'm not ready to give a date yet, but if there isn't a real release
sometime soon there will be a cvs release to help get the real one 
out.

> Bob
> 
> take out the "nospam" portion of my email
> when replying...
> 
> _______________________________________________
> wxPython-users mailing list wxP...@wx...
> http://wxwindows.org/mailman/listinfo/wxpython-users

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     http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

[Boa Constr] Segfaults on wxGTK 2.1.15

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi there,

There are wxGTK problems for 2.1.15.

When I tested for compatibility after the wxPython 2.1.15 release I 
tested against my current code base and found that only grids
had to be added for Boa to start up. 

After a recent post on the SourceForge forums I tested the last 
released code (0.0.3) against wxPython 2.1.15 and also got a seg fault 
after 'imported wxPython' 

It seems that a problem that occured for some people 
(didn't happen to me) in wxGTK on 2.1.13 now occurs for everyone :)
It has to do with creating wxBitmaps before the wxApp object has been 
created.

I uploaded a patch for the problem earlier 
(see: http://sourceforge.net/patch/?group_id=1909) and replacing 
Boa.py with the patch file sorts out 2.1.15.

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Riaan                     >>> a='a=%s;a%%`a`';a%`a`
___________________________________________________
Boa Constructor - RAD GUI building IDE for wxPython
     http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

Re: [Boa Constr] A report generator for Boa/Python

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

"Aloy, Antoni" wrote:
> 
>         It would be gread to have a report generator "a la QuickReport", but
> in the meantime its quite ease to generate them by code using ReportLab (You
> could find in the Parnausus repository).

This is a brilliant library but as far as I can see it will be quite 
an undertaking to create a visual designer for it.
(could possibly use the OGL ???)
Any ideas?

Also it would make a bit more sense if Boa had database support which
would be datasources for report components.

One way to possibly use it at design time would be to take some of 
the standard reports and have a wizard ask appropriate questions
and then generate the code for it. 

I think that it would be easier to just code the reports tho.

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___________________________________________________
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     http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

Re: [Boa Constr] RE: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #15 - 3 msgs

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hello Antoni,

"Aloy, Antoni" wrote:
> 
> I've recently installed wxpython 1.2.6 and it's incompatible with boa
> (wxGrid incompatibility).
> Will then new Boa version be compatible with 1.2.5?

Add:

from wxPython.grid import wxGrid

to PaletteMapping.py

> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antoni Aloy
> 
> P.S. An improved editor would be greatly appreciated.

I get the feeling I'm going to be greatly appreciated at some stage ;)

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___________________________________________________
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     http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

Re: [Boa Constr] Boa, MVC, documentation and random bable

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi Josh,

Josh Robb wrote:
> 
> Yanko, Riaan etc....
> 
> My basic premise for wanting some IDE like features is that with some
> minimal work Boa could supplant PythonWin as my primary ide/RAD/Case
> ;)/(Pick a random acronym) tool. Once I can work full time in Boa many other
> things become easier because you are 'eating your dog food'.

It's given me indigestion one or twice but it has matured a bit and
syntax highlighting really adds nice flavour to the mix.

> Lets be clear about this... I am not just sending my wishlist to Riaan. I am
> offering to contribute code.

Great!

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Riaan                     >>> a='a=%s;a%%`a`';a%`a`
___________________________________________________
Boa Constructor - RAD GUI building IDE for wxPython
     http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

[Boa Constr] A report generator for Boa/Python

[Aloy, A. <ant...@gr...>]

	It would be gread to have a report generator "a la QuickReport", but
in the meantime its quite ease to generate them by code using ReportLab (You
could find in the Parnausus repository).

	This library allows you to generate pdf files. I'm very impressed
about it's stability and speed.

	Regards,

	Antoni Aloy

[Boa Constr] RE: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #15 - 3 msgs

[Aloy, A. <ant...@gr...>]

I've recently installed wxpython 1.2.6 and it's incompatible with boa
(wxGrid incompatibility).
Will then new Boa version be compatible with 1.2.5?

Regards,

Antoni Aloy

P.S. An improved editor would be greatly appreciated.

RE: [Boa Constr] Boa, MVC, documentation and random bable

[Josh R. <jo...@fu...>]

Riaan,

I applaud your focus on delivering a code base. This is an important aim
because without an existing (even if its not perfect) bit of code to work on
things can (and in my experience have) stall quickly. This will usually
digresses into arguments about architecture and implementation which gets no
more features/code added but give lots of people a change to express
opinions. :) so.....

You go BOY!!!

If there are any useful packages of work that you can hand out (even <gasp>
testing/doco) while we are waiting for a point release which can be
developed in a more collaborative fashion please give them to me... :).

RE: [Boa Constr] Boa, MVC, documentation and random bable

[Yanko, C. (GSP) <Ya...@gs...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Josh Robb [SMTP:jo...@fu...]
> Sent:	Tuesday, May 09, 2000 5:16 PM
> To:	'Yanko, Curtis (GSP)'; Boa list
> Subject:	RE: [Boa Constr] Boa, MVC, documentation and random bable
> 
> Yanko, Riaan etc....
> 
> My basic premise for wanting some IDE like features is that with some
> minimal work Boa could supplant PythonWin as my primary ide/RAD/Case
> ;)/(Pick a random acronym) tool. Once I can work full time in Boa many
> other
> things become easier because you are 'eating your dog food'.
> 
	I hear you on this one. I am dying for the day I can do all of my
Python work in Boa (not that I'm doing much Python work mind you :-)

> Lets be clear about this... I am not just sending my wishlist to Riaan. I
> am
> offering to contribute code.
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Josh

RE: [Boa Constr] Boa, MVC, documentation and random bable

[Yanko, C. (GSP) <Ya...@gs...>]

XP, that's great! I have spent the last few weeks looking that over as we
may adopt here at Gerber. I didn't see where you implement first, I thought
they started with 'User stories' and then CRC. I think XP and Python are a
great fit. And please excuse my Outlook client as this email will now be
forever bastardized by it :-) 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Riaan Booysen [SMTP:riaan@e.co.za]
> Sent:	Wednesday, May 10, 2000 4:53 AM
> To:	Yanko, Curtis (GSP); Boa list
> Subject:	Re: [Boa Constr] Boa, MVC, documentation and random bable
> 
> Hi Yanko,
> 
> "Yanko, Curtis (GSP)" wrote:
> > 
> > I'm hearing lots of great things but let me pipe up on a few items.
> > 
> > What are the 'requirements' for the 1.0 release?
> 
> * All components supported
> * Collection editor for list properties
> * Multiple selection in the Frame Designer
> * Cut/Copy/Paste in the Frame Designer
> * Built in Sizer/Alignment support
> * A few more property editor types
> 
> > 
> > Do you have any high level design documentation for Boa?
> 
> Is the above not detailed enough? :)
> 
	I thought I had seen these once but couldn't remember them. I wasn't
suggesting you didn't have any, just wanted to know for myself.

> > 
> > Don't you think it is too easy to get lost in the details of 'which
> features
> > do we want' when the focus should be on getting a working product to
> market,
> > albeit with a minimal set of features.
> 
> It is, and it's a fine line to walk.
> I regularly do the 'fun' details if I get stumped on the tricky stuff.
> 
> > 
> > I, for one, would be happy with a usable IDE that allows me to do my GUI
> > building. Code completion and such would be nice but it is the GUI
> builder
> > that sets Boa apart. (bear with me as I drift off topic for a minute).
> 
> The key here is 'usable IDE'. The current version out there at the 
> moment is a far cry from a useful IDE even if the GUI building was
> complete. Another thing to take note of is that Boa is being 
> developed in Boa, so if I implement some nifty time saving feature
> (like tooltips so I don't have to scroll around and find the 
> definition) Boa gets developed quicker. It's a gain for me, Boa and
> the users.
> All that said, I am focusing on core issues and old bugs at the moment.
> 
> > 
> > ...I feel that there is something fundementally wrong with the way we
> teach
> > programming languages and it shows up in our projects. We teach them
> like
> > the english language, learning the vocabulary and syntax first. More
> > abstractly, we teach the very small and build to the larger constructs.
> > Programming however, needs to be taught in reverse almost. Analysis
> should
> > be the first thing we teach! What is it we need? What does it need to
> do?
> > What language it is implemented in isn't even up for consideration yet!
> Once
> > we know, in detail, what we want, we can set about designing it. Do you
> see
> > where I'm going with this?..
> 
> I used to believe in this principal quite strongly but in practice it
> is very difficult to first have the perfect design and then have the
> implementation integrate flawlessly with the rest of the system.
> Have you heard of Extreme Programming? I'm basically following a mild
> variant of it. The crux of it is that you implement first and then
> design. (You also have to have extensive test cases which is the bit
> I skip because it's so tricky to test GUIs, I basically test with the
> mouse) I know this implement first design second sounds perverse but 
> it works for me. The analysis you speak about can more effectively
> be done once you've already hacked out some solution and in the
> process familiarised yourself better with the problem AND it's 
> integration with the rest of the system. Then you refactor the
> hacks into something that looks designed :)
> 
	This is great news, yet another synergy in my life which makes it a
little simpler.

> > 
> > ...back to reality. Ok... Riaan, what little time I've been able to look
> at
> > your code. I've been very impressed. I'm personaly struggling with MVC
> but
> > I'll get over it. I would like to see Boa become not only a great
> IDE/GUI
> > builder but a model of project developement as well. So... what are the
> > projects goals? What are the requirements and which ones are the most
> > important. What task are needed to accomplish them and who will do them.
> > 
> Apart from the above mentioned milestones, nothing has been 
> formalised yet.
> 
> > I think I can help with documentation and some of the coding but I've
> been
> > in a hold pattern. This is a project that is near and dear to my heart
> since
> > I have settled on Python as my language of choice and wxPython as my GUI
> > library of choice.
> 
> I applaud your choices!
> 
> > 
> > I fear this has become more bable than anything but it is my way of
> standing
> > up and being counted here.
> 
> You're counted now and will be drafted :)
> 
> -- 
> Riaan                     >>> a='a=%s;a%%`a`';a%`a`
> ___________________________________________________
> Boa Constructor - RAD GUI building IDE for wxPython
>      http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

Re: [Boa Constr] wxPython 2.1.15 and wxStyledTextCtrl

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi Josh,

Josh Robb wrote:
> 
> the way that PythonWin works... (I think some of these features were new in
> 128???) is that it uses a bunch of extensions from IDLE for this sort of
> thing.... under the pythonwin folder there is an Idle dir from which
> extensions are dynamically loaded depending on the contents of the pythonwin
> config file... (Because Guido maintins this code all the hard parts are
> taken care of by him - e.g. dynamic typing/parsing etc...)

Ok, I got 129 and scanned thru it briefly. I'd like to incorporate 
some of this functionality into Boa but it's gonna take some effort
and possibly a bit of double work.
One problem is that Boa already parses the source code for use in 
building the various views (hierarchy/explore/docs etc) and for
visual frame creation.
To use this code shared by Idle and PythonWin we'd have to double
parse, once for me, once for them as their parser does not provide 
all the info I need. This will slow things down a bit.
For second area of sharing I'd have to implement "virtual text methods"
(see EditorWindow.py in Idle) for my source code editor, I will
definitely investigate this when I have time.

> 
> Pythonwin supports parameter hinting and code completion... (a-la Visual
> Studio)so we should be able to reuse the exiting code for Boa.
> 
> A couple of other things... :)
> 
> 1.      I am not a delphi user (allthough long ago i was an object pascal
> person... - TurboPascal 5/7 ;) so the layout of the Boa windows seams a bit
> strange to me..... (From my visual studio point of view). Is there any
> interest in allowing a configuration option to make Boa MDI with Dockable
> pallettes (so it will seem natural to MS people)?

>From my side there is no interest in deviating from the Delphi path
for various reasons:
* The learning curve can't be that steep.
* On linux/wxGTK (as far as I know) MDI is implemented with tabbed pages
  which brings you back where you started.
* There's no native support for docking in wxWindows, although it can be
  simulated the hard way.
* It's all a diabolical plot to subliminally train you for Delphi :)

One feature I have considered (which might seem more natural to you)
would be to have the Palette buttons wrap. Then you could have the 
layout like this:

 +--+---------+
 |P |         |
 +--+  E      |
 |I |         |
 +--+---------+

instead of

 +----P-------+
 +--+---------+
 |  |  E      |
 |I |         |
 +--+---------+

Would this suit you better?

> 
> 1.      I am keen to get the wizard code working.... :).... Is this
> something that I could do Riaan or is it more work to explain whats in your
> head than for you to do it... (I'm happy to have a go if you want to explain
> your idea).

I'm not completely with you, which wizards are talking about here?

> 
> (I have _lots_ of other ideas for Boa but they need some time to settle down
> before I ramble any more... 

Please ramble, that's what the list is for.

- I have been reading some of the prerelease
> material for Visual Studio 7... VB will finally get object inheritance!!!!!
> - We are so far ahead!)

I can imagine Visual Studio 36, now with meta classes !

> Josh
> 
> P.S. roughly how many people are subscribed to the list?
> 
There is a button on this page:
http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/boa-constructor-users
that gives a list of all subscribers,
I think there are about 25 of us.

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Riaan                     >>> a='a=%s;a%%`a`';a%`a`
___________________________________________________
Boa Constructor - RAD GUI building IDE for wxPython
     http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

Re: [Boa Constr] Boa, MVC, documentation and random bable

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi Yanko,

"Yanko, Curtis (GSP)" wrote:
> 
> I'm hearing lots of great things but let me pipe up on a few items.
> 
> What are the 'requirements' for the 1.0 release?

* All components supported
* Collection editor for list properties
* Multiple selection in the Frame Designer
* Cut/Copy/Paste in the Frame Designer
* Built in Sizer/Alignment support
* A few more property editor types

> 
> Do you have any high level design documentation for Boa?

Is the above not detailed enough? :)

> 
> Don't you think it is too easy to get lost in the details of 'which features
> do we want' when the focus should be on getting a working product to market,
> albeit with a minimal set of features.

It is, and it's a fine line to walk.
I regularly do the 'fun' details if I get stumped on the tricky stuff.

> 
> I, for one, would be happy with a usable IDE that allows me to do my GUI
> building. Code completion and such would be nice but it is the GUI builder
> that sets Boa apart. (bear with me as I drift off topic for a minute).

The key here is 'usable IDE'. The current version out there at the 
moment is a far cry from a useful IDE even if the GUI building was
complete. Another thing to take note of is that Boa is being 
developed in Boa, so if I implement some nifty time saving feature
(like tooltips so I don't have to scroll around and find the 
definition) Boa gets developed quicker. It's a gain for me, Boa and
the users.
All that said, I am focusing on core issues and old bugs at the moment.

> 
> ...I feel that there is something fundementally wrong with the way we teach
> programming languages and it shows up in our projects. We teach them like
> the english language, learning the vocabulary and syntax first. More
> abstractly, we teach the very small and build to the larger constructs.
> Programming however, needs to be taught in reverse almost. Analysis should
> be the first thing we teach! What is it we need? What does it need to do?
> What language it is implemented in isn't even up for consideration yet! Once
> we know, in detail, what we want, we can set about designing it. Do you see
> where I'm going with this?..

I used to believe in this principal quite strongly but in practice it
is very difficult to first have the perfect design and then have the
implementation integrate flawlessly with the rest of the system.
Have you heard of Extreme Programming? I'm basically following a mild
variant of it. The crux of it is that you implement first and then
design. (You also have to have extensive test cases which is the bit
I skip because it's so tricky to test GUIs, I basically test with the
mouse) I know this implement first design second sounds perverse but 
it works for me. The analysis you speak about can more effectively
be done once you've already hacked out some solution and in the
process familiarised yourself better with the problem AND it's 
integration with the rest of the system. Then you refactor the
hacks into something that looks designed :)

> 
> ...back to reality. Ok... Riaan, what little time I've been able to look at
> your code. I've been very impressed. I'm personaly struggling with MVC but
> I'll get over it. I would like to see Boa become not only a great IDE/GUI
> builder but a model of project developement as well. So... what are the
> projects goals? What are the requirements and which ones are the most
> important. What task are needed to accomplish them and who will do them.
> 
Apart from the above mentioned milestones, nothing has been 
formalised yet.

> I think I can help with documentation and some of the coding but I've been
> in a hold pattern. This is a project that is near and dear to my heart since
> I have settled on Python as my language of choice and wxPython as my GUI
> library of choice.

I applaud your choices!

> 
> I fear this has become more bable than anything but it is my way of standing
> up and being counted here.

You're counted now and will be drafted :)

-- 
Riaan                     >>> a='a=%s;a%%`a`';a%`a`
___________________________________________________
Boa Constructor - RAD GUI building IDE for wxPython
     http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

RE: [Boa Constr] Boa, MVC, documentation and random bable

[Josh R. <jo...@fu...>]

Yanko, Riaan etc....

My basic premise for wanting some IDE like features is that with some
minimal work Boa could supplant PythonWin as my primary ide/RAD/Case
;)/(Pick a random acronym) tool. Once I can work full time in Boa many other
things become easier because you are 'eating your dog food'.

Lets be clear about this... I am not just sending my wishlist to Riaan. I am
offering to contribute code.

Regards

Josh

[Boa Constr] Boa, MVC, documentation and random bable

[Yanko, C. (GSP) <Ya...@gs...>]

I'm hearing lots of great things but let me pipe up on a few items.

What are the 'requirements' for the 1.0 release?

Do you have any high level design documentation for Boa?

Don't you think it is too easy to get lost in the details of 'which features
do we want' when the focus should be on getting a working product to market,
albeit with a minimal set of features.

I, for one, would be happy with a usable IDE that allows me to do my GUI
building. Code completion and such would be nice but it is the GUI builder
that sets Boa apart. (bear with me as I drift off topic for a minute).

...I feel that there is something fundementally wrong with the way we teach
programming languages and it shows up in our projects. We teach them like
the english language, learning the vocabulary and syntax first. More
abstractly, we teach the very small and build to the larger constructs.
Programming however, needs to be taught in reverse almost. Analysis should
be the first thing we teach! What is it we need? What does it need to do?
What language it is implemented in isn't even up for consideration yet! Once
we know, in detail, what we want, we can set about designing it. Do you see
where I'm going with this?..

...back to reality. Ok... Riaan, what little time I've been able to look at
your code. I've been very impressed. I'm personaly struggling with MVC but
I'll get over it. I would like to see Boa become not only a great IDE/GUI
builder but a model of project developement as well. So... what are the
projects goals? What are the requirements and which ones are the most
important. What task are needed to accomplish them and who will do them.

I think I can help with documentation and some of the coding but I've been
in a hold pattern. This is a project that is near and dear to my heart since
I have settled on Python as my language of choice and wxPython as my GUI
library of choice.

I fear this has become more bable than anything but it is my way of standing
up and being counted here.

-Curtis Yanko

RE: [Boa Constr] wxPython 2.1.15 and wxStyledTextCtrl

[Josh R. <jo...@fu...>]

the way that PythonWin works... (I think some of these features were new in
128???) is that it uses a bunch of extensions from IDLE for this sort of
thing.... under the pythonwin folder there is an Idle dir from which
extensions are dynamically loaded depending on the contents of the pythonwin
config file... (Because Guido maintins this code all the hard parts are
taken care of by him - e.g. dynamic typing/parsing etc...)

Pythonwin supports parameter hinting and code completion... (a-la Visual
Studio)so we should be able to reuse the exiting code for Boa.

A couple of other things... :)

1.	I am not a delphi user (allthough long ago i was an object pascal
person... - TurboPascal 5/7 ;) so the layout of the Boa windows seams a bit
strange to me..... (From my visual studio point of view). Is there any
interest in allowing a configuration option to make Boa MDI with Dockable
pallettes (so it will seem natural to MS people)?

1.	I am keen to get the wizard code working.... :).... Is this
something that I could do Riaan or is it more work to explain whats in your
head than for you to do it... (I'm happy to have a go if you want to explain
your idea).

(I have _lots_ of other ideas for Boa but they need some time to settle down
before I ramble any more... - I have been reading some of the prerelease
material for Visual Studio 7... VB will finally get object inheritance!!!!!
- We are so far ahead!)

Josh

P.S. roughly how many people are subscribed to the list?

-----Original Message-----
From: Riaan Booysen [mailto:riaan@e.co.za]
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2000 8:47 a.m.
To: Josh Robb; Boa list
Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] wxPython 2.1.15 and wxStyledTextCtrl


Hi Josh, everyone.

Josh Robb wrote:
> 
> Is anyone working on using the new wxStyledTextControl for the Boa editor?

Firstly thanks for writing, this list has been too quiet of late.

Indeed yes, I've been working with it since a few minutes after 
2.1.15 was released :)

> 
> If not shall I start?
> What features would people like.... (e.g. tooltips like pythonwin)

Indeed what features do you people want?

What tool tip support does pythonwin have? (I haven't noticed any on
125)
Tool tip support (Hints under parameters) and code completion are
sometimes a bit tricky in a dynamically typed language like Python
and I would really appreciate some discussion of it on this 
mailing list.

I've added features like auto indent, smart delete, block indenting,
block commenting and code browsing (hold down ctrl and click on
code to jump to definition, this only works for a subset of code)

Pending features; Bookmarks

> 
> Is there any one there at all?
> 
jip :)

There are still a few issues around the wxStyledTextCtrl to be resolved
before a release can be considered:
  * Performance issues on Linux
  * Tool tips and code completion aren't working correctly
  * GetText bug

I plan to update the CVS soon for some feedback and help.

-- 
Riaan                     >>> a='a=%s;a%%`a`';a%`a`
___________________________________________________
Boa Constructor - RAD GUI building IDE for wxPython
     http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

Re: [Boa Constr] wxPython 2.1.15 and wxStyledTextCtrl

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi Josh, everyone.

Josh Robb wrote:
> 
> Is anyone working on using the new wxStyledTextControl for the Boa editor?

Firstly thanks for writing, this list has been too quiet of late.

Indeed yes, I've been working with it since a few minutes after 
2.1.15 was released :)

> 
> If not shall I start?
> What features would people like.... (e.g. tooltips like pythonwin)

Indeed what features do you people want?

What tool tip support does pythonwin have? (I haven't noticed any on
125)
Tool tip support (Hints under parameters) and code completion are
sometimes a bit tricky in a dynamically typed language like Python
and I would really appreciate some discussion of it on this 
mailing list.

I've added features like auto indent, smart delete, block indenting,
block commenting and code browsing (hold down ctrl and click on
code to jump to definition, this only works for a subset of code)

Pending features; Bookmarks

> 
> Is there any one there at all?
> 
jip :)

There are still a few issues around the wxStyledTextCtrl to be resolved
before a release can be considered:
  * Performance issues on Linux
  * Tool tips and code completion aren't working correctly
  * GetText bug

I plan to update the CVS soon for some feedback and help.

-- 
Riaan                     >>> a='a=%s;a%%`a`';a%`a`
___________________________________________________
Boa Constructor - RAD GUI building IDE for wxPython
     http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net

[Boa Constr] wxPython 2.1.15 and wxStyledTextCtrl

[Josh R. <jo...@fu...>]

Is anyone working on using the new wxStyledTextControl for the Boa editor?

If not shall I start?

What features would people like.... (e.g. tooltips like pythonwin)

Is there any one there at all?

Re: [Boa Constr] Presentation

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi Antoni,

Antoni Aloy wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> My name is Antoni Aloy.
> I've been using Python the last months, and I've just beginnig with Boa.
> In my opinion Boa it's what python needs to be as good as most known rad
> tools.

Mine too.
Luckily the Python language is better than any other rad language so
we've got a head start!

> 
> Some suggestions:
> 
> a) I've seen the new Wx version with syntax highlight. It would be a great
> add on for Boa.

Are you referring to wxPyEditor? This is an editor control written by
Dirk Holtwick. I did try it out but it was a bit slow on large files,
had a few bugs and misses crucial features like selecting text.
But don't despair, Robin Dunn will be releasing wxStyledTextEditor
soon. It is based on Scintilla which has a very impressive list of
features (including stuff like code completion and parameter tips)

> b) I've had installed on NT and W98 without problems, but I've have lots of
> problems on Linux (package dependencies). Althought I'm quite new in Linux I
> think more intall instrucction to be able to program python using Boa.

The wxPython mailing list might be the best place to ask about this.
Also, you'll have to be a bit more specific in what problems you
encounter.
Personally I just installed from the RPMs.
The only hitch I had was a dependency on a MESA RPM I had to search 
for and install before I could install the wxPython RPM.

Good luck

Riaan

[Boa Constr] Presentation

[Antoni A. <ant...@gr...>]

Hi!
My name is Antoni Aloy.
I've been using Python the last months, and I've just beginnig with Boa.
In my opinion Boa it's what python needs to be as good as most known rad
tools.

Some suggestions:

a) I've seen the new Wx version with syntax highlight. It would be a great
add on for Boa.
b) I've had installed on NT and W98 without problems, but I've have lots of
problems on Linux (package dependencies). Althought I'm quite new in Linux I
think more intall instrucction to be able to program python using Boa.

Best regards,

Antoni Aloy

[Boa Constr] I'm Back!

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hello everybody, I'm officially online again.
From now on it's full time Boa!

Riaan

Re: [Boa Constr] Re: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #8 - 1 msg

[Riaan <riaan@e.co.za>]

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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Poorman <l.p...@al...>
To: boa...@li...
<boa...@li...>
Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 1:36 PM
Subject: [Boa Constr] Re: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #8 - 1 msg


>Ok Riaan,
>
>Then I'll have something for you when you get back.
>
>I think you mean until (April 10) or do the clocks run in the other
direction
>south of the equator? (just kidding)
>


Hi Larry,

Great stuff, can't wait to check it out!
Yeah I meant April 10 (silly me)

Riaan

[Boa Constr] Re: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #8 - 1 msg

[Larry P. <l.p...@al...>]

Ok Riaan,

Then I'll have something for you when you get back.

I think you mean until (April 10) or do the clocks run in the other direction
south of the equator? (just kidding)

Larry

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> Hi everyone,
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[Boa Constr] Downtime

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi everyone,

I will be mostly offline for the next two weeks (till March 10), out of
town business followed by some vacation :)

Talk to you then.

Riaan

Re: [Boa Constr] file dialog

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi, 

db...@in... wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>   Each time I want to open a module, the file dialog use the filter
> *.txt. Is it possible to change it to *.py ?
> 

It was like this because in 2.1.13 wxMSW it shows the second filetype first. 
2.1.14 (interim) fixes this.

Change Editor.py line 376 to:

        dlg = wxFileDialog(self, 'Choose a file', '.', '', 
          'Modules (*.py)|*.py|Text files (*.txt)|*.txt', wxOPEN)

Riaan

[Boa Constr] file dialog

[<db...@in...>]

Hello,

  Each time I want to open a module, the file dialog use the filter
*.txt. Is it possible to change it to *.py ?

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