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[Boa Constr] Project files

[S. <rsm...@mi...>]

Hello,

Actually all the project data are saved inside python files.
Maybe it would be better idea to use external resource files
(for example in XML format), where project properties, form data,
etc. could be saved?
Other RADs uses such files: res, gnome, dfm, frm, dsp, vbp...

greets,
Rafal

Re: [Boa Constr] Bewildered user

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Frank McGeough wrote:
> 
> Is there any help that demonstrates how to go about constructing an
> app with the boa constructor tool? 

I have received a tutorial as a contribution and will incorporate it 
into the boa constructor web-site when I update it.

> I find the interface bewildering. I
> can barely create a completely empty app, save it and run it. 

There is a learning curve (as with most things) but I don't think
it's that steep.

Quick tutorial:

Create new app: Click Palette->New->wxApp.
Save frame:     Click Editor->Save
Save app:       Click Editor->Save
Run app:        Click Editor->Run module	

After you've done this once or twice I hope you'll find it
less bewildering.
My best advice would be to just play around with the interface.

> What is
> the point of not having a menu bar? 

Version 0.0.3 had no menu bars, 0.0.4 has one on the Editor window.
On windows where all commands are available from the toolbar
I feel a menu bar will waste space, but maybe this should be a 
preference you can set.

> Just cursory examination seems to
> make it extremely bewildering about how to open or save a project. I'm
> sure it's got lots of nice features but they are cleverly concealed.
> 
> Synchrologic, Inc.
> http://www.synchrologic.com
> T: 770.754.5600
> F: 770.619.5612
> "In the course of a true collaboration, one 'plays' the role of the
> enthusiast and the other the role of the skeptic." Jean Lindenmann,
> co-discoverer of interferon

I'll assume you played the role of the skeptic ;)

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[Boa Constr] Bewildered user

[Frank M. <fm...@sy...>]

Is there any help that demonstrates how to go about constructing an
app with the boa constructor tool? I find the interface bewildering. I
can barely create a completely empty app, save it and run it. What is
the point of not having a menu bar? Just cursory examination seems to
make it extremely bewildering about how to open or save a project. I'm
sure it's got lots of nice features but they are cleverly concealed.

Synchrologic, Inc.
http://www.synchrologic.com
T: 770.754.5600
F: 770.619.5612
"In the course of a true collaboration, one 'plays' the role of the
enthusiast and the other the role of the skeptic." Jean Lindenmann,
co-discoverer of interferon

[Boa Constr] wxPython 2.2

[Aloy, A. <ant...@gr...>]

Hi!

Version 2.2 of wxPython has been realeased.
It seems it works fine for boa.

Regards,

Toni

Re: [Boa Constr] problem

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Robin Barendregt wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I downloaded the latest files from the cvs and after copying ndiff from
> Tools\scripts in the python distrib to the ExternalLib dir of Boa, I got it
> running. However when I close the ShowTip window the whole IDE closes, with
> the following walkback:
> 
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   File "Boa.py", line 107, in ?
> 
>   File "Boa.py", line 100, in main
> 
>   File "Boa.py", line 52, in __init__
>     class BoaApp(wxApp):
>   File "F:\Devtools\Python\wxPython\wx.py", line 1631, in __init__
>     _wxStart(self.OnInit)
>   File "Boa.py", line 81, in OnInit
>     self.main.editor.openModule(sys.argv[1])
>   File "Boa.py", line 97, in ShowTip
>     showTip = wxShowTip(frame, tp)
> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
> 'F:\\DevTools\\Python\\Boa\\data/showTip'
> 
> At first I thought it was because my files would've been checked out as
> read-only, but that wasn't the case.
> What am I doing wrong here?

Are you sure the file isn't read only, when this happened to me, that
was the problem.

I also notice it says 
> 'F:\\DevTools\\Python\\Boa\\data/showTip'

but the file is named showTips, typing error?

If this doesn't help, comment out the tip code in Boa.py (line 81)
You're not missing much, there's about one tip so far ;)

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[Boa Constr] ndiff

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Sorry, missed that one. It's in CVS now, check it out!

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[Boa Constr] ndiff Problem with lastest CVS

[Daniel N. <dan...@fr...>]

Hi,

I just donload the lastest CVS of Boa.
I'm under Linux.
When i run Boa, i get this message:

File "Views/DiffView.py", line 13, in ?
    from ExternalLib import ndiff
ImportError: cannot import name ndiff

I talke look on the CVS in sub-folder ExternalLib and there is no file
named ndiff.py.

Can you help me.

Regards,

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[Boa Constr] problem

[Robin B. <r.b...@vi...>]

Hi,

I downloaded the latest files from the cvs and after copying ndiff from
Tools\scripts in the python distrib to the ExternalLib dir of Boa, I got it
running. However when I close the ShowTip window the whole IDE closes, with
the following walkback:

Traceback (innermost last):
  File "Boa.py", line 107, in ?

  File "Boa.py", line 100, in main

  File "Boa.py", line 52, in __init__
    class BoaApp(wxApp):
  File "F:\Devtools\Python\wxPython\wx.py", line 1631, in __init__
    _wxStart(self.OnInit)
  File "Boa.py", line 81, in OnInit
    self.main.editor.openModule(sys.argv[1])
  File "Boa.py", line 97, in ShowTip
    showTip = wxShowTip(frame, tp)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'F:\\DevTools\\Python\\Boa\\data/showTip'


At first I thought it was because my files would've been checked out as
read-only, but that wasn't the case.
What am I doing wrong here?

Regards,
Robin.

[Boa Constr] CVS update

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi all,

The SourceForge CVS has been updated. Mostly bug fixes.

The GTK version looks a little bit better, but it still core dumps now
and again, especially when you close modules / views.

I'm still looking for people to help out on Linux.

Enjoy.

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[Boa Constr] Did Anyone see this yet.....

[Joshua R. <Jo...@Ad...>]

wxDesigner - $69 USD.

A Commercial dialog editor for the free wxWindows GUI library.

http://www.roebling.de/

Re: [Boa Constr] Can't get into CVS to download latest

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hello Jimbo,

James Johnson wrote:
> 
>           I'm using winCVS to access the CVS files.  I'm new
>           to CVS and what it
>           does is it returns an exit code of 1.  Is there an

Any error will give you exit code 1.

>           easier way to
>           obtain the files or do I have to wait for an
>           official release?  Jimbo


Anonymous WinCVS is actually easier than write access as you don't
need to get SSH going, you can try the following
to checkout the whole boa source tree:

From the main menu set
CvsAdmin->Preferences->General->CVSROOT : 
ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/Boa-Constructor

CvsAdmin->Login...
Enter empty password

CvsAdmin->Checkout module...
Choose destination directory
Checkout Settings->Module name/path on server :
boa

Hope this helps

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[Boa Constr] Can't get into CVS to download latest

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[Boa Constr] Problems running CVS Boa on MSW with wxPython 2.1.16

[Travis B. H. <sl...@cc...>]

Riaan,
I checked out the latest CVS sources of Boa Constructor,
hoping that Boa would be productive enough for me to use it to
at least design my GUI's for wxPython.  Unfortunately when I
tried running it, it just dumped out with this traceback:


E:\boa>python boa.py
importing wxPython...
imported wxPython
imported Prefs
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "boa.py", line 23, in ?
      import Palette
  File "E:\BOA\Palette.py", line 14, in ?
      import PaletteMapping
  File "E:\BOA\PaletteMapping.py", line 24, in ?
      from wxPython.calendar import wxCalendarCtrl
  File "C:\PROGRA~1\PYTHON\wxPython\calendar.py", line 16, in ?
      from utils import *
  File "C:\PROGRA~1\PYTHON\wxPython\utils.py", line 4, in ?
    class wxConfigBasePtr :
  File "C:\PROGRA~1\PYTHON\wxPython\utils.py", line 5, in wxConfigBasePtr
    Type_Unknown = utilsc.wxConfigBase_Type_Unknown
AttributeError: wxConfigBase_Type_Unknown


Is this caused by an incompatibility with the version of wxPython that
I have installed?  If so, what can be done to fix it, or is there
anything I can specifically look at.  I don't have time today to
figure out what is wrong, but if you could point me in the right
direction, I can look at it.

Thanks for a potentially great product!

Travis B. Hartwell

Re: [Boa Constr] love the concept, new with the tool

[Bug H. <bug...@on...>]

 I had the same error.  The other boa guys here are windows folks, and
could not help me.  They suggested the wx group, but I don't have time
yet.

bug

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Jaime Barciela Ors wrote:

> Hello Boa people
> 
> This my very first question here, I'm getting myself into Python/wxPython
> and I see here a killer combination. I come from Delphi and I love visual
> programming, I don't want to write things like SetPosition(10,10) if I can
> avoid it
> I just downloaded Boa 0.0.3 but I cant make it work, when I run Boa.py I get
> the error:
>   NameError: wxGrid
> in file PaletteMapping.py line 23
>   palette = [....
> 
> I have wxPython 2.1.16 and all the demos that come with it run ok
> Am I missing something, there is some instalation to make (by the way I
> included the boa directory in the python path but it dosn't help) (I'm using
> Win98 Second Edition)
> 
> Well that's it
> I will apreciate any help, or pointers to help
> Thanks
> Jaime Barciela
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Boa Constr] love the concept, new with the tool

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hello Jaime,

Jaime Barciela Ors wrote:
> 
> Hello Boa people
> 
> This my very first question here, I'm getting myself into Python/wxPython
> and I see here a killer combination. I come from Delphi and I love visual
> programming, I don't want to write things like SetPosition(10,10) if I can
> avoid it
> I just downloaded Boa 0.0.3 but I cant make it work, when I run Boa.py I get
> the error:
>   NameError: wxGrid
> in file PaletteMapping.py line 23
>   palette = [....

Version 0.0.3 is getting a bit dated as it was written for 2.1.13
There is a new version available from CVS.

To get 0.0.3 running add:
from wxPython.grid import wxGrid
to PaletteMapping.py

The OnCloseWindow events also don't fire automatically anymore
but the above should be enough to give you a preview.

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[Boa Constr] love the concept, new with the tool

[Jaime B. O. <jba...@us...>]

Hello Boa people

This my very first question here, I'm getting myself into Python/wxPython
and I see here a killer combination. I come from Delphi and I love visual
programming, I don't want to write things like SetPosition(10,10) if I can
avoid it
I just downloaded Boa 0.0.3 but I cant make it work, when I run Boa.py I get
the error:
  NameError: wxGrid
in file PaletteMapping.py line 23
  palette = [....

I have wxPython 2.1.16 and all the demos that come with it run ok
Am I missing something, there is some instalation to make (by the way I
included the boa directory in the python path but it dosn't help) (I'm using
Win98 Second Edition)

Well that's it
I will apreciate any help, or pointers to help
Thanks
Jaime Barciela





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[Boa Constr] CVS update

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hello everybody,

At long last the CVS on SourceForge has been updated.
Read Changes.txt for the newest features.

Any help would be appreciated especially getting the wxGTK problems 
sorted out as I am without a Linux box at the moment.

Enjoy!

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Re: [Boa Constr] trying on redhat linux, need help

[Bug H. <bug...@on...>]

  Hmm.  I assumed it was a missing library, and you would know since you
are doing the Boa stuff, and would know which libraries to include...

thanks!
bug

On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Riaan Booysen wrote:

> 
> 
> Bug Hunter wrote:
> > 
> >  I did that before.  Here is what I am getting:
> > [root@maxfield boa]# python ./Boa.py
> > importing wxPython...
> > Traceback (innermost last):
> >   File "./Boa.py", line 15, in ?
> >     from wxPython.wx import *
> >   File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/wxPython/__init__.py", line 20,
> > in ?
> >     import wxc
> > ImportError: /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/wxPython/wxcmodule.so:
> > undefined symbol: UpdateAttrRows__15wxGridTableBaseUii
> 
> No ideas.
> This does not seem like a Boa problem, maybe you should ask on the
> wxPython mailing list (see wxPython.org)
> 
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> 

Re: [Boa Constr] trying on redhat linux, need help

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Bug Hunter wrote:
> 
>  I did that before.  Here is what I am getting:
> [root@maxfield boa]# python ./Boa.py
> importing wxPython...
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   File "./Boa.py", line 15, in ?
>     from wxPython.wx import *
>   File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/wxPython/__init__.py", line 20,
> in ?
>     import wxc
> ImportError: /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/wxPython/wxcmodule.so:
> undefined symbol: UpdateAttrRows__15wxGridTableBaseUii

No ideas.
This does not seem like a Boa problem, maybe you should ask on the
wxPython mailing list (see wxPython.org)

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Re: [Boa Constr] trying on redhat linux, need help

[Bug H. <bug...@on...>]

  thanks! Still same error message:
[root@maxfield boa]# ./Boa.py
importing wxPython...
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "./Boa.py", line 16, in ?
    from wxPython.wx import *
  File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/wxPython/__init__.py", line 20,
in ?
    import wxc
ImportError: /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/wxPython/wxcmodule.so:
undefined symbol: UpdateAttrRows__15wxGridTableBaseUii


On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Pieter Nagel wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:26:59 +0200, Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za>
> wrote:
> 
> >If this is the problem, add: #! /usr/bin/env python
> >or wherever your python lives to the top of Boa.py to run as a shell 
> >script.
> 
> This will work no matter where his python lives, provided his PATH is
> correct. Using /usr/bin/env this way is a standard Unix idiom to do
> this. I think you can add this as a standard part of the Boa code.
> --

Re: [Boa Constr] trying on redhat linux, need help

[Bug H. <bug...@on...>]

 I did that before.  Here is what I am getting:
[root@maxfield boa]# python ./Boa.py
importing wxPython...
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "./Boa.py", line 15, in ?
    from wxPython.wx import *
  File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/wxPython/__init__.py", line 20,
in ?
    import wxc
ImportError: /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/wxPython/wxcmodule.so:
undefined symbol: UpdateAttrRows__15wxGridTableBaseUii

  I also tried turning it into an autorun script with #!/usr/bin/python.
Same error.

  Any other ideas? I'm running redhat 6.1, along with the python stuff
previously mentioned.  I'll work with you on this.  

  BTW, I AM running Xwindows, Gnome! <grin>

thanks!
bug


On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Riaan Booysen wrote:

> Hi Bug :)
> 
> I was hoping some linux enabled person might help out on this, but
> here goes a guess,
> 
> Bug Hunter wrote:
> > 
> >   I downloaded the latest boa (version 0.0.3), and I can't get it to run
> > under linux.
> > 
> >   I located the patch and applied it.  This made things worse.  I'm
> > currently getting "syntax error near unexpected token 'BoaApp(w"   Before
> > the patch, I got "./boa.py: print: command not found", and "'' from:
> > command not found", and currentMouseOverTip: command not found" with no
> > display, except for a change of my cursor to a + sign.
> 
> It seems you are running Boa as a shell script, try: python ./Boa.py
> 
> If this is the problem, add: #! /usr/bin/env python
> or wherever your python lives to the top of Boa.py to run as a shell 
> script.
> 
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> ___________________________________________________
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>      http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net
> 

Re: [Boa Constr] trying on redhat linux, need help

[Pieter N. <pi...@na...>]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:26:59 +0200, Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za>
wrote:

>If this is the problem, add: #! /usr/bin/env python
>or wherever your python lives to the top of Boa.py to run as a shell 
>script.

This will work no matter where his python lives, provided his PATH is
correct. Using /usr/bin/env this way is a standard Unix idiom to do
this. I think you can add this as a standard part of the Boa code.
--

  Pieter Nagel

Re: [Boa Constr] trying on redhat linux, need help

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hi Bug :)

I was hoping some linux enabled person might help out on this, but
here goes a guess,

Bug Hunter wrote:
> 
>   I downloaded the latest boa (version 0.0.3), and I can't get it to run
> under linux.
> 
>   I located the patch and applied it.  This made things worse.  I'm
> currently getting "syntax error near unexpected token 'BoaApp(w"   Before
> the patch, I got "./boa.py: print: command not found", and "'' from:
> command not found", and currentMouseOverTip: command not found" with no
> display, except for a change of my cursor to a + sign.

It seems you are running Boa as a shell script, try: python ./Boa.py

If this is the problem, add: #! /usr/bin/env python
or wherever your python lives to the top of Boa.py to run as a shell 
script.

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[Boa Constr] trying on redhat linux, need help

[Bug H. <bug...@on...>]

  I downloaded the latest boa (version 0.0.3), and I can't get it to run
under linux.

  I located the patch and applied it.  This made things worse.  I'm
currently getting "syntax error near unexpected token 'BoaApp(w"   Before
the patch, I got "./boa.py: print: command not found", and "'' from:
command not found", and currentMouseOverTip: command not found" with no
display, except for a change of my cursor to a + sign.

  I'm running pythonlib-1.23-1, wxPython-2.1.15-1, and python-1.5.2-7 from
RPM's on redhat 6.1.

  can anyone help?

thanks,
bug

[Boa Constr] Status

[Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za>]

Hello all,

This is just a ping in the silence and a quick update:
* not much progress with the slowdown/leak problem
* alot of progress with Collection Editors. These are editors that
  visually maintain a list of sub-items for a component.
  You now have properties like wxListCtrl.Columns, wxImageList.Images

Hang in there.

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