Re: [Audacity-quality] We've only got a couple of days left

[Peter S. <pet...@gm...>]

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 5:57 PM John Colket <jc...@gm...> wrote:

> Peter, James has asked me to start commenting in bugzilla, so I am going
> to move some comments there.
>

That's great - I see you've already added a spin-ff bug  😎

Peter.



> - John
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 9:24 AM Peter Sampson <
> pet...@gm...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 8:39 PM John Colket <jc...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, Peter, your issues (1) and (D) are due to an previous bug in
>>> Audacity, and which is only a distant cousin to the issue at hand.  The
>>> problem occurs when trying to dock a double-height toolbar on top of (in
>>> front of) another double-height toolbar.  I will take a further look into
>>> this.
>>>
>>
>> That would be great, thanks John.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Issues (A), (B), and (C) are effects of undocking a toolbar.  This
>>> brings up the question: "Do we want a held left-click to start a toolbar
>>> move?"  If so, that is what we now have.  If not, we can disable this
>>> logic.  Then if you would prefer to simulate the start of a toolbar move
>>> but not actually doing it, we can discuss this as well.
>>>
>>
>> From a block-box UX POV I really don't expect the toolbars to move until
>> I actually move the
>> mouse with the left-click held down.
>>
>> When I just click it, as I ponder on where to move it, I expect nothing
>> to move,
>> a) not the one I'm clicking on
>> b) nor any orhers to slide into its place.
>>
>> And I certainly don't expect a displacement of any toolbars if I just
>> click, hold till black relocator
>> triangle and then release the mouse button.
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>
>>
>>> And thank you again for your time and dedication. ☺
>>>
>>> - John
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 7:05 AM John Colket <jc...@gm...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter, you did what I asked.  Thank you very much.  Thank you for your
>>>> dedication to this project, for your time and for the detailed tests that
>>>> you made.  I appreciate your feedback greatly.  I will study your notes in
>>>> detail and get back with you.
>>>>
>>>> - John
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 5:59 AM Peter Sampson <
>>>> pet...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 3:15 AM John Colket <jc...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, Peter, I'm depending on you to break this.  😉  Give it your best
>>>>>> shot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John, you shot not jave tempted fate like that ...   🤔
>>>>>
>>>>> I got it well broke
>>>>> https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2663#c5
>>>>>
>>>>> But at least it's broken slightly differently to 3.0.0   😉
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It turned out to be two lines.  I decided to put the comment on its
>>>>>> own line.  ☺
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/776
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 12:54 PM Peter Sampson <
>>>>>> pet...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:51 PM John Colket <jc...@gm...>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fix pending.  I expect to have a one-line PR by tomorrow.  - John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to seeing that (and testing it) John.  😎
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 7:16 PM Leland <ll...@ho...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Go for it John.  I think the Mac ones are gonna keep me busy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* John Colket <jc...@gm...>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2021 2:39 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* audacity-quality <aud...@li...>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-quality] We've only got a couple of days
>>>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I it would please you, I can take a stab at:
>>>>>>>>> *Bug 2663*
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2663> - Audacity
>>>>>>>>> can make unwanted moves of toolbars
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll see if I can't make myself cross-eyed. 😉
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - John Colket
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 3:27 PM Leland <ll...@ho...>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yepper.  Roger and Steve are working on this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Peter Sampson <pet...@gm...>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:26 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* audacity-quality <aud...@li...>;
>>>>>>>>> Peter Sampson <pet...@gm...>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-quality] We've only got a couple of days
>>>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But P1 regression  2708
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Bug 2708*
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2708> -
>>>>>>>>> Nyquist effects fail silently with One hour plus stereo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is the most egregious - we even had this working in 1,2,6 !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 6:23 PM Peter Sampson <
>>>>>>>>> pet...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 6:12 PM Leland <ll...@ho...>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which bugs are the most important to “try” and address?  I know
>>>>>>>>> the P1s are a given, but which of the P2/P3 fellas should really make it
>>>>>>>>> into 3.0.1?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All these are P2s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to see us at least address the error message help target
>>>>>>>>> for this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Bug 2700*
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2700> -
>>>>>>>>> "Failed to open the project database"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This one I find darn annoying
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Bug 2663*
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2663> -
>>>>>>>>> Audacity can make unwanted moves of toolbars
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These two are annoyoing on Mac
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Bug 2703*
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2703> - Mac:
>>>>>>>>> EGAT preview dialog is hidden behind the EGAT dialog
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Bug 2704*
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2704> - Mac:
>>>>>>>>> Stop button in EGATs with Preview does nor stop the preview
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This one's important for VI users
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Bug 2692*
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2692> - Mac:
>>>>>>>>> VI users get trapped in radio buttons of Keyboard Preferences
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But these are just my POV  😉
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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