Re: [Audacity-devel] Macros - make stereo track

[Steve F. <ste...@gm...>]

In Audacity 2.4.2, multi-channel recordings (more than 2 channels) are
recorded as multiple mono tracks.

Steve

On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 13:44, John Colket <jc...@gm...> wrote:

> Steve,
>
>    Thank you for your speedy response.  I haven't yet compiled 2.4.2
> w/ASIO, which I will have to do.  I assume when you say "That", you are
> referring to the stereo assumption that audacity was making?  Will 2.4.2
> also make make tracks 17 & 18 stereo for me or will I still have to do a  "Make
> Stereo Track" ?
>
>  - John
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 2:23 PM Steve Fiddle <ste...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 13:11, John Colket <jc...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Steve.  I just ran into this "Make Stereo Track" and "Split Stereo
>>> Track To Mono" Issue.  I have recorded 18 channels from an XR18 via
>>> Audacity ASIO.  Now, for some reason, Audacity assumes the first two tracks
>>> are a stereo pair, which is not my case, because the first two channels on
>>> the XR18 are high impedance and I don't want them to be stereo inputs.
>>>
>>
>> That won't happen when you update to the current Audacity 2.4.2.
>> Audacity 2.4.2 for Windows is available via the Audacity website:
>> https://www.audacityteam.org/download/windows/
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>> Conversely, the last two channels are in fact the stereo Left and Right
>>> outputs, but Audacity treats them as mono tracks.  I am able to create a
>>> macro using "Select Tracks" and "Set Track" and am able to Name each track
>>> according to my current assignments, In fact, "Set Track" allows a whole
>>> host of options including Mute, Solo, Gain, and Pan, and display options,
>>> but not the Make Tracks Stereo, or Split Stereo Tracks that I need.  Any
>>> thoughts?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 6:58 PM <pan...@gm...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> “make stereo track” ignores the pan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Steve Fiddle <ste...@gm...>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 1 October 2020 8:33 PM
>>>> *To:* Audacity-Devel list <aud...@li...>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-devel] Macros - make stereo track
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see your point, but it's not arbitrary. "Mix and Render" is a normal
>>>> menu command that operates on all selected track. "Make Stereo Track" is
>>>> not a main menu command, it's a command in the track context menu and is
>>>> specific to the track that the menu belongs to, irrespective of which
>>>> tracks are selected.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess it would be possible to add the "Make Stereo Track" an option
>>>> in the "SetTrack" command, but given that tracks are mixed automatically on
>>>> export, is there a compelling case for why it is needed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:58, Mike Pannekoek <pan...@gm...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I want to make this clear, I’m not asking for help, it just seems
>>>> arbitrary that downmix to mono is in macros, but create stereo track is not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Pannekoek
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Steve Fiddle <ste...@gm...>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:55:05 PM
>>>> *To:* Audacity-Devel list <aud...@li...>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-devel] Macros - make stereo track
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To iterate through multiple tracks you would need to use a proper
>>>> programming  language, such as Nyquist or Python. Macros are just simple
>>>> lists of commands, but you would need to do something like (in pseudo code):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FOR i ==  0 TO LastTrack:
>>>>
>>>>    MakeStereo(Track[i], Track[i + 1])
>>>>
>>>>    i += 2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are no plans to make Macros more complicated than a list of
>>>> commands. Users that need more complex programming structures (such as
>>>> iteration and/or conditionals) can use the Nyquist programming language
>>>> that is built into Audacity, or another language external to Audacity via
>>>> mod-script-pipe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note also that in most cases it would not be necessary to mix the
>>>> tracks, as the tracks will be mixed automatically on export.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you need to do something like this and need help, I'll be happy to
>>>> help you on the forum.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 11:31, <pan...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The reason I asked is that it seemed to be a missing script in the
>>>> macros, not that I wanted to get help. Besides, the way I wanted to use it
>>>> involved applying it to multiple tracks one after the other, but this
>>>> appears to only work with the first two tracks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Steve Fiddle <ste...@gm...>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 September 2020 8:05 PM
>>>> *To:* Audacity-Devel list <aud...@li...>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-devel] Macros - make stereo track
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In which case you could do something like:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SelectTracks:Mode="Set" Track="0" TrackCount="1"
>>>> PanLeft:
>>>> SelectTracks:Mode="Set" Track="1" TrackCount="1"
>>>> PanRight:
>>>> SelectAll:
>>>> MixAndRender:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but please note that this is not a support address. If you have further
>>>> questions, please ask on the Audacity Help forum.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 10:25, <pan...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So far I’ve been using it to make two tracks into a stereo track
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Steve Fiddle <ste...@gm...>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 September 2020 7:23 PM
>>>> *To:* Audacity-Devel list <aud...@li...>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-devel] Macros - make stereo track
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have a project containing one mono track, and you want to make
>>>> it into a 2 channel ("stereo") track, then you can do something like:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SelectAll:
>>>> Copy:
>>>> RemoveTracks:
>>>> NewStereoTrack:
>>>> Paste:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you need more help, come and talk to us on the help forum:
>>>> https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewforum.php?f=69
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:39, <pan...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can this be done?
>>>>
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