Re: [Audacity-devel] My quibble with the vertical zoom menu

[Steve t. F. <ste...@gm...>]

On 15 January 2018 at 21:12, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> wrote:
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> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...>
> wrote:
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>> On 15 January 2018 at 20:32, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...>
>> wrote:
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>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Steve the Fiddle
>> > <ste...@gm...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm in agreement with Paul.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps too late to do anything about it for 2.2.2, but I anticipate
>> >> that many current users will see it as a regression and will complain
>> >> on the forum before they find the setting in Preferences.
>> >>
>> >> Although I understand that it is primarily intended for the benefit of
>> >> new / less able users, I actually find the new setting more difficult
>> >> to use, though I think it does succeed in it's primary aim of avoiding
>> >> getting stuck in state.
>> >>
>> >> I don't entirely hold with the argument that experienced / capable
>> >> users will search through Preferences. The argument is not a long way
>> >> from the argument that experienced / capable users will read release
>> >> notes and refer to the manual (both of which we know to be mostly
>> >> false).
>> >
>> >
>> > I am glad but a but surprised that Steve agrees with me.
>> >
>> > The checkbox item would be in a context menu reached from one track, but
>> > change a global setting affecting all tracks.
>> >
>> > This is the sort of scoping detail that I don't mind, and Gale, as I
>> > recall,
>> > didn't mind, but in fairness I point out it's the sort of thing Steve
>> > has
>> > disputed in the past.
>>
>> and still dispute.
>> I also agree with James that the proposed solution is a mistake, but I
>> think we need to be pragmatic. Hopefully future iterations will
>> provide a better solution to address the concerns of all.
>>
>> Steve
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>
> James has mentioned the idea of more shortcuts to Preferences in the
> program.  Would you object to a popup menu item that opened a dialog at an
> appropriate preference page?

+1
I think that would be much more in keeping with the idea of a context
menu, and offers greater flexibility.

I'm about to commit a few small changes to Preferences to address
another issue that James raised.
I'm just waiting for Appveyer to complete, so if you could hold off
making changes to Prefs for 20 mins or so, we can avoid clashing.

Steve


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> PRL
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>> > PRL
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>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >>
>> >> On 15 January 2018 at 19:14, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I'm probably speaking up too late, and I don't mean to wear the
>> >> > authoritative RM hat.
>> >> >
>> >> > But count me -1 for having at the same time
>> >> >
>> >> > Veritcal ruler zooming-in disabled by default, and,
>> >> > No easy checkmark item at the bottom of the context menu to turn it
>> >> > on
>> >> > again
>> >> > if you want.
>> >> >
>> >> > I really don't like the disabling of it at all in the first place,
>> >> > but
>> >> > if
>> >> > that must be done for the sake of new users, still I think
>> >> > experienced
>> >> > users
>> >> > who know what they are doing would miss it, and would not like having
>> >> > to
>> >> > hunt for the new checkbox somewhere in Preferences.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's all.
>> >> >
>> >> > PRL
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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