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Re: [Audacity-quality] Problems with editing metadata
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From: Paul L. <pau...@gm...> - 2018-01-11 14:35:01
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 8:54 AM, Cliff Scott <fly...@gm...> wrote: > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 11:32 PM, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:03 AM, Cliff Scott <fly...@gm...> wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> Specifically, I have added the metadata tag "Grouping" which also exists >> in iTunes. When I export in Aiff format the contents of Grouping does not >> appear in the iTunes info for that file. All the default tags work fine. It >> seems to be related to bug 451. >> >> Cliff >> > > In the code I see different special treatment of tags for different > formats, because each presents a different API we must code to. > > I see it done for FLAC, mp2, mp3, Ogg, and PCM. When you choose AIFF, it > goes to the PCM path. > > PRL > > > Ok. That explains why it doesn't work. I would think if the other tags > work for aiff format why shouldn't the new tag work? Bug 451 seems to > indicate that somehow adding a tag gets different treatment than the > default tags. Is this something that will be addressed eventually? If it's > only myself that would like it fixed then it probably isn't worth someone's > time to fix it. > I don't yet have the expertise to fix this. I only mentioned the behaviors of the tags editing dialog, because I am concentrating on bugs in internationalization. Keep your problem in mind. Perhaps someone will take it up later. PRL > > Cliff > > > > >> >> >> On Jan 10, 2018, at 10:34 PM, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:26 PM, Cliff Scott <fly...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> Is the issue with field names & iTunes also a wxWidgets issue or >>> something else? >>> >>> Cliff >>> >> >> I'd like a very specific description of the "issue" you mean, but I >> strongly doubt wxWidgets has anything to do with that. >> >> PRL >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps the last is intended behavior. You can expand the table first, >>> then fill it in if you like. >>> >>> But I have now pushed fixes for two of the other three problems: >>> translations, and duplications. >>> >>> Fixing the drop-down may require hunting in the wxWidgets code and >>> figuring out a patch there. I won't touch that now. >>> >>> PRL >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Another oddity is that you can repeatedly press Add and get any number >>>> of blank rows, which do not reappear if you close the dialog and reopen. >>>> >>>> PRL >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Here is another oddity about tags editing that you can verify. >>>>> >>>>> You can create custom tags by entering names and values in the bottom >>>>> and hitting Add. >>>>> >>>>> There are checks to prevent duplication of the special tag names. Try >>>>> entering another Comments for instance. You get a bell, the new entry is >>>>> erased, and the cursor is repositioned at the tag you duplicated. >>>>> >>>>> I think this should be done for all tags, not just the special ones, >>>>> but it is not. And furthermore, tags are treated as nondistinct internally >>>>> if they differ only in case. >>>>> So try entering these lines: >>>>> XXX ABC >>>>> xxx def >>>>> >>>>> You can do it. But dismiss the tag editor and open again, and you see >>>>> only the later of the two is saved. >>>>> >>>>> I think the editor should prohibit the duplicates just as with the >>>>> special tag names. >>>>> >>>>> PRL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 7:48 AM, Cliff Scott <fly...@gm...> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 8, 2018, at 10:35 PM, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Cliff Scott <fly...@gm...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On the Mac the dropdown list can be viewed by holding down the left >>>>>>> mouse button on the arrow, but move it and it vanishes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While you're thinking about Metadata, several years ago I raised the >>>>>>> issue that added fields didn't get picked up in iTunes even if iTunes has >>>>>>> the same field name. Bug 541 describes the adding a field name issue. I >>>>>>> know it isn't a pressing problem, but it would be nice to get working. I >>>>>>> could use it in some of my work, but I can get around it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cliff >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think tags must be tested separately with each exported format, >>>>>> which handles them differently. That bug is specifically about .mp3. >>>>>> Which format is of interest to you? >>>>>> >>>>>> PRL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ideally aiff and mp3. I usually export in aiff to iTunes, adjust the >>>>>> metadata and convert to mp3 there since for some reason the conversion to >>>>>> mp3 in iTunes is a faster process than doing it in Audacity and I also the >>>>>> have the project in a format that can be burned to a CD if needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cliff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2018, at 9:25 PM, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am noticing at least two problems with the Edit > Metadata... >>>>>>> dialog. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - What I uncovered by doing my sweep of translation problems: >>>>>>> The seven special read-only Tag names that always appear in the left >>>>>>> column do not translate. >>>>>>> - What I discovered incidentally to that: The value field for >>>>>>> Genre is supposed to open a drop-down. But at least on Mac this combo box >>>>>>> flashes open only momentarily and is not usable to choose anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not yet opened a bug report for either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder if the second problem is one of those Mac-only annoyances >>>>>>> in wxWidgets version 3, and therefore present only on Mac and since version >>>>>>> 2.1.2. Can someone test this on the other operating systems? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The language problem is very likely not dependent on platform. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PRL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org <http://slashdot.org/>! >>>>>>> http://sdm.link/slashdot____________________________________ >>>>>>> ___________ >>>>>>> Audacity-quality mailing list >>>>>>> Aud...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org <http://slashdot.org/>! >>>>>>> http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Audacity-quality mailing list >>>>>>> Aud...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org <http://slashdot.org/>! >>>>>> http://sdm.link/slashdot____________________________________ >>>>>> ___________ >>>>>> Audacity-quality mailing list >>>>>> Aud...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org <http://slashdot.org/>! >>>>>> http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Audacity-quality mailing list >>>>>> Aud...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------------ >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org <http://slashdot.org/>! >>> http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ >>> Audacity-quality mailing list >>> Aud...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------------ >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org <http://slashdot.org/>! >>> http://sdm.link/slashdot >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Audacity-quality mailing list >>> Aud...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org <http://slashdot.org/>! >> http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ >> Audacity-quality mailing list >> Aud...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Audacity-quality mailing list >> Aud...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot______ > _________________________________________ > Audacity-quality mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-quality mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality > > |
