Re: [Audacity-quality] Exporting audio files
A free multi-track audio editor and recorder
Brought to you by:
aosiniao
Menu
▾
▴
Re: [Audacity-quality] Exporting audio files
|
From: Cliff S. <fly...@gm...> - 2017-11-09 01:37:07
|
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> wrote:
>
> A bit of unscientific polling of the discussion group I manage:
>
> 33 votes against "Save Other"
> 8 neutral
> 7 in favor
>
> That seems like a large margin of preference for the old name.
>
> Must it be fixed in 2.2.1? Just changing the sub-menu name to "Export" may be done, and that string is already in the .pot files. However, we might want to put an accelerator in it with & which would add a string, and I would have to ask -translation for another minor update.
Just my opinion, the sooner it is changed the better it is so people don't get used to thinking Save Other then have to switch gears again to Export.
Cliff
>
> More ambitious menu reorganizations -- I'd punt that to 2.2.2.
>
> PRL
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Peter Sampson <pet...@gm... <mailto:pet...@gm...>> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Peter Sampson <pet...@gm... <mailto:pet...@gm...>> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm... <mailto:ste...@gm...>> wrote:
> On 8 November 2017 at 16:17, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm... <mailto:pau...@gm...>> wrote:
> > I'll go on record disliking "Save other," but that's only one voice.
>
> and just one voice from me too, hence the reason for raising the matter on-list.
>
>
> In my production use of Audacity I find myself increasingly disliking the two clicks to get to the Exports
> and indeed, even now having to remember to use Save Other (a "Save" command to make an "Export").
>
> Firing up 2.1.3 again makes me long for the key Export commands (Audio, Multiple, Selected).
>
> In 2.2.0/2.2.1 I do not value the Export as MP3, Export as WAV and Export as OGG, always using the
> Export Audio.
>
>
> But if we do keep these three (sub)commands then I strongly think that we should have pre-assigned shortcuts
> for them - especially of they stay in a sub-menu.
>
> It is quite difficult to set shortcuts - and horrendously difficult trying to find available unused ones.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
> I see no reason not to pul at least Export Audio and Export Multiple to the top level of the File Menu and
> replacing the !"Save Other" with "Export Other".
>
> This is my user-POV
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Maybe Forum should decide, but maybe you get a biased sample, those
> > disliking the change more likely to say so.
>
> Most definitely so, but more than just "not liking the change". We are
> getting feedback that users are confused by the fact that they can't
> find where / how to export.
>
>
> We do have to remember, as you Steve used to point out to Gale, that a small no of posters on the Forum
> is a *very* small sample of our user base.
>
> One of the posters today did ask about customizable menus - is that still in your thinking James?
>
> Peter.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > I do not require or prohibit this change. If someone decides to change it,
> > I hope you reuse an already internationalized string _("Export") so .pot
> > doesn't need another update.
>
> Good point.
>
> Steve
>
> >
> > PRL
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, James Crook <cr...@in... <mailto:cr...@in...>> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/8/2017 3:50 PM, Steve the Fiddle wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 8 November 2017 at 15:40, James Crook <cr...@in... <mailto:cr...@in...>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Doer decides? You can change it - though perhaps formally get Paul's OK
> >>>> to
> >>>> do it since he is (or will be) 2.2.1 RM? I care about the menus being
> >>>> much
> >>>> better organised than they were, not about every single detail. And if
> >>>> you
> >>>> do change it, you'll be taking responsibility for all those
> >>>> inexperienced
> >>>> users who don't find how to 'Save' as wav!
> >>>
> >>> Sure, but we're a team, right?
> >>> We have some (admittedly limited) feedback, and I've cast my 2c.
> >>>
> >>> Yes I agree that the menu reorganisation is the more important (and
> >>> much improved) part, so just talking details here.
> >>>
> >>> What do others think? "Save Other" or "Export" or something else?
> >>> Assuming that the rest of the File menu remains the same, I'm +1 for
> >>> "Export"
> >>
> >> If we're voting I'm -1 on it changing from "Save Other" - but if it were
> >> just us two voting and no one else, then I think it should change. I think
> >> I am right in my choice, but I don't think you are terribly misguidedly
> >> wrong in yours, and the (small) inconvenience to inexperienced users matters
> >> less to me than you wanting to change it, because of feedback you have
> >> received, and not being able to.
> >>
> >> By contrast I do care a lot more about record-beside and record-below,
> >> which we also disagree on. If it came to a vote I would put energy into
> >> getting consensus on my side about record-beside being the default.
> >>
> >> --James.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>>> By the way, I would also like to condense the two optional extra-menus
> >>>> into
> >>>> one. However, if I do that it's for 2.2.2 rather than 2.2.1 given the
> >>>> timescales.
> >>>>
> >>>> --James.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/8/2017 3:04 PM, Steve the Fiddle wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We're getting quite a few people asking how to export a normal audio
> >>>>> file.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It would seem that renaming "Export" as "Save Other" has created as
> >>>>> much confusion as it resolved.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My personal view is that with the current File menu layout, the least
> >>>>> confusing would be to rename "Save Other" back to "Export". Imo, the
> >>>>> reduced size of the menu and improved menu order does enough to draw
> >>>>> attention to the Export menu item without removing the "E" word.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot <http://sdm.link/slashdot>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Audacity-quality mailing list
> >> Aud...@li... <mailto:Aud...@li...>
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot <http://sdm.link/slashdot>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Audacity-quality mailing list
> > Aud...@li... <mailto:Aud...@li...>
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality>
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot <http://sdm.link/slashdot>
> _______________________________________________
> Audacity-quality mailing list
> Aud...@li... <mailto:Aud...@li...>
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot <http://sdm.link/slashdot>
> _______________________________________________
> Audacity-quality mailing list
> Aud...@li... <mailto:Aud...@li...>
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________
> Audacity-quality mailing list
> Aud...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-quality
|
